After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
reinstall windows.
Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
Sean

Re: Reinstall Windows by John

John
Thu Feb 19 11:56:40 CST 2004

Sean wrote:
> After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
> with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
> instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
> reinstall windows.
> Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
> Sean

Yes. You should actually do this at least once a year. Also, bear in
mind that along with a cluttered registry, you probably have lots of
"orphan" dll and other files scattered here and there. After doing a
total reinstall, your system will run faster and a multitude of
mysterious problems will disappear. Besides, it's an opportunity to
*not* install unneeded programs.

Go for it. I do it once a year myself. But first, make sure you write
down settings and back up files.

--
Regards from John Corliss

Re: Reinstall Windows by Jim

Jim
Thu Feb 19 12:11:10 CST 2004

Lets have a moment of silence for poor Sean. Assuming he has IE6 and
reinstalls ME, think of the endless happy hours he will spend trying to get
his system to work. Of course, his system restore won't work right either
because he doesn't have the proper patches, and the time spent downloading
and reinstalling the critical updates.... Jim
"John Corliss" <jc@notreal.to> wrote in message
news:Obk9LIx9DHA.340@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Sean wrote:
> > After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
> > with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
> > instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
> > reinstall windows.
> > Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
> > Sean
>
> Yes. You should actually do this at least once a year. Also, bear in
> mind that along with a cluttered registry, you probably have lots of
> "orphan" dll and other files scattered here and there. After doing a
> total reinstall, your system will run faster and a multitude of
> mysterious problems will disappear. Besides, it's an opportunity to
> *not* install unneeded programs.
>
> Go for it. I do it once a year myself. But first, make sure you write
> down settings and back up files.
>
> --
> Regards from John Corliss



Re: Reinstall Windows by E

E
Thu Feb 19 15:31:24 CST 2004

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:11:10 -0500, "Jim Holmes" <jch@fmlic.com>
wrote:

>Lets have a moment of silence for poor Sean. Assuming he has IE6 and
>reinstalls ME, think of the endless happy hours he will spend trying to get
>his system to work. Of course, his system restore won't work right either
>because he doesn't have the proper patches, and the time spent downloading
>and reinstalling the critical updates.... Jim

Reformatted my HD, reinstalled windows (getting all of the updates)
and all of my other programs (including anti-virus updates); total
time? Six hours. And it worked fine. I do this every six months to
clean out all of the crap. Why make it sound so hard?



>"John Corliss" <jc@notreal.to> wrote in message
>news:Obk9LIx9DHA.340@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Sean wrote:
>> > After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
>> > with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
>> > instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
>> > reinstall windows.
>> > Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
>> > Sean
>>
>> Yes. You should actually do this at least once a year. Also, bear in
>> mind that along with a cluttered registry, you probably have lots of
>> "orphan" dll and other files scattered here and there. After doing a
>> total reinstall, your system will run faster and a multitude of
>> mysterious problems will disappear. Besides, it's an opportunity to
>> *not* install unneeded programs.
>>
>> Go for it. I do it once a year myself. But first, make sure you write
>> down settings and back up files.
>>
>> --
>> Regards from John Corliss
>


Re: Reinstall Windows by Nanny

Nanny
Thu Feb 19 17:38:45 CST 2004

Let's have a moment of silence for me then...... I just did exactly that,
and my OE and IE work, but I can't open any folders, cause then Explorer
crashes :-(
I don't want to reformat, so is there any other way to get Explorer to work
again ?

Nanny

"Jim Holmes" <jch@fmlic.com> schreef in bericht
news:OwD3GPx9DHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Lets have a moment of silence for poor Sean. Assuming he has IE6 and
> reinstalls ME, think of the endless happy hours he will spend trying to
get
> his system to work. Of course, his system restore won't work right either
> because he doesn't have the proper patches, and the time spent downloading
> and reinstalling the critical updates.... Jim
> "John Corliss" <jc@notreal.to> wrote in message
> news:Obk9LIx9DHA.340@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Sean wrote:
> > > After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
> > > with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
> > > instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
> > > reinstall windows.
> > > Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
> > > Sean
> >
> > Yes. You should actually do this at least once a year. Also, bear in
> > mind that along with a cluttered registry, you probably have lots of
> > "orphan" dll and other files scattered here and there. After doing a
> > total reinstall, your system will run faster and a multitude of
> > mysterious problems will disappear. Besides, it's an opportunity to
> > *not* install unneeded programs.
> >
> > Go for it. I do it once a year myself. But first, make sure you write
> > down settings and back up files.
> >
> > --
> > Regards from John Corliss
>
>



Re: Reinstall Windows by Jan

Jan
Thu Feb 19 17:51:49 CST 2004

Hi Sean,

"Sean" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:133ce01c3f70f$f77a3fa0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
> with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
> instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
> reinstall windows.
> Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?

Check the information below before reinstalling Windows ME. Follow all
instructions carefully.

If you have IE6 installed, check here first:

Remove IE6 and Reinstall Windows ME
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q312451

then -

Check here before reinstalling ME:
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm


HTH

Jan :)




Reinstall Windows by anonymous

anonymous
Fri Feb 20 05:35:37 CST 2004

Try System Mechanic from Iolo

http://www.iolo.com/sm/

They have a free evaluation. It does a pretty good job of
cleaning dead items from the registry.


>-----Original Message-----
>After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
>with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
>instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
>reinstall windows.
>Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
>Sean
>.
>

Re: Reinstall Windows by John

John
Fri Feb 20 08:54:38 CST 2004

I never said that the process was easy, I just said that it was
definitely worth it. When Sean wrote that he was considering a fresh
reinstall, I assume that he is technically savvy enough to accomplish
the task. I know that *I* am, since I do it once or twice a year on my
own system and do it on a regular basis for others. Not only that, but
I regularly communicate in my favorite newsgroup with lots of other
people who do likewise.
As for all the updates well, I (personally) don't go that route
since I take other steps to make security patches unnecessary. I don't
like some of the changes to my system that have occured as a result of
previous MS "upgrades". YMMV.
Still, I haven't had a virus in about 7 years (I've only ever had
one virus infection and it was the Happy99 virus, which I removed
without any trouble) and my browser of choice has never been
"hijacked." Spyware and adware are likewise non-existant on my system.
There is, of course, that patch for Millennium Edition's System
Restore that you refer to, and a download link to it is located here:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;290700

Why would you try to discourage somebody from having a clean registry
and hard drive? Yes, it's difficult to format and then reinstall an OS
and the applications, but with preparation (get your drivers in a
pile, backup data, etc.) it's not really a job that's beyond the
average user's skill level. After all, *I* can do it.

...maybe you can't???

Jim Holmes wrote:

> Lets have a moment of silence for poor Sean. Assuming he has IE6 and
> reinstalls ME, think of the endless happy hours he will spend trying to get
> his system to work. Of course, his system restore won't work right either
> because he doesn't have the proper patches, and the time spent downloading
> and reinstalling the critical updates.... Jim
>
> John Corliss wrote:
>> Sean wrote:
>>
>>> After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
>>> with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
>>> instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
>>> reinstall windows.
>>> Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
>>
>> Yes. You should actually do this at least once a year. Also, bear in
>> mind that along with a cluttered registry, you probably have lots of
>> "orphan" dll and other files scattered here and there. After doing a
>> total reinstall, your system will run faster and a multitude of
>> mysterious problems will disappear. Besides, it's an opportunity to
>> *not* install unneeded programs.
>>
>> Go for it. I do it once a year myself. But first, make sure you write
>> down settings and back up files.

--
Regards from John Corliss

Re: Reinstall Windows by John

John
Fri Feb 20 09:03:08 CST 2004

Nanny wrote:

> Let's have a moment of silence for me then...... I just did exactly that,
> and my OE and IE work, but I can't open any folders, cause then Explorer
> crashes :-(
> I don't want to reformat, so is there any other way to get Explorer to work
> again ?

Here is the way you should have done it:

Put your data ("My documents" files, a copy of your
"C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Identities" folder,
"C:\WINDOWS\Favorites" etc.) in a separate folder off of the root
folder. For instance, my favorite is "c:\data\".

Boot your system using an emergency floppy (make sure that it has CD
drivers on it) and delete everything on your hard drive except for
that c:\data one. Be sure to delete all the files in the root folder
(again, don't delete c:\data).
Next, reinstall Windows from scratch and all your drivers.
Move the data folders and files to wherever they were before.

In your current situation, you can still access and copy those data
folders using a boot floppy and DOS commands.

Unfortunately, reinstalling any version of Windows over a pre-existing
copy of it (like it sounds like you did) is never a good idea. That's
why you need to get rid of the old copy.

--
Regards from John Corliss

Re: Reinstall Windows by Noel

Noel
Tue Feb 24 02:39:28 CST 2004

Don't! A lot of the stuff in this program is hogwash - and some of it can
actually harm your sanity (or at least that of your PC)!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1398f01c3f7a5$a8e46230$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> Try System Mechanic from Iolo
>
> http://www.iolo.com/sm/
>
> They have a free evaluation. It does a pretty good job of
> cleaning dead items from the registry.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
> >with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
> >instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
> >reinstall windows.
> >Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
> >Sean
> >.
> >



Re: Reinstall Windows by Rick

Rick
Tue Feb 24 03:17:55 CST 2004

Sean wrote:

> After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
> with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
> instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
> reinstall windows.
> Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
> Sean

Microsoft's RegClean (available from most download places), no idea why
they didn't include it on the WinME CD. JV16 Powertools "RegCleaner" for
more in-depth stuff.

The "Registry Mechanic" one mentioned by another poster seems to cause
problems.

I prefer the "reformat/fresh install/patch" routine, myself; takes a few
hours every few months, saves alot more than that in the long run and
lets me try out new partitioning/data management schemes I cook up
during the interims.

I've never actually tried a "refresh" install, sounds good though there
seem to be a couple issues with IE6.




Rick
love to wait till everybody else posts before deciding what's good advice :)

Re: Reinstall Windows by Noel

Noel
Tue Feb 24 05:21:46 CST 2004

The reason that MS didn't include RegClean in the ME CD is that it's not
strictly ME compatible, since it scan only two of the three sections of the
registry.

In normal circumstances, this doesn't matter, but......

Also - the program had not been maintained since March 1998, and it was
never supported officially by MS - read the ReadMe.txt file!

AFAIK, it was created in-house for the development team - and when their
need for it was over, was allowed out onto the MS Website for Win 95 and Win
98 only - I think it was taken down around two years ago, and only
third-party sites still offer it.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Rick T" <plinnane3NO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OHFTHcr%23DHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Sean wrote:
>
> > After a few years of usage, my registry is very cluttered
> > with invalid and outdated stuff. Someone told me that
> > instead of reformatting my harddisk, I should just
> > reinstall windows.
> > Any comments? Yes/no? If so, how?
> > Sean
>
> Microsoft's RegClean (available from most download places), no idea why
> they didn't include it on the WinME CD. JV16 Powertools "RegCleaner" for
> more in-depth stuff.
>
> The "Registry Mechanic" one mentioned by another poster seems to cause
> problems.
>
> I prefer the "reformat/fresh install/patch" routine, myself; takes a few
> hours every few months, saves alot more than that in the long run and
> lets me try out new partitioning/data management schemes I cook up
> during the interims.
>
> I've never actually tried a "refresh" install, sounds good though there
> seem to be a couple issues with IE6.
>
>
>
>
> Rick
> love to wait till everybody else posts before deciding what's good advice
:)



Re: Reinstall Windows by Rick

Rick
Tue Feb 24 06:56:02 CST 2004

Noel Paton wrote:
> The reason that MS didn't include RegClean in the ME CD is that it's not
> strictly ME compatible, since it scan only two of the three sections of the
> registry.
>
> In normal circumstances, this doesn't matter, but......
>
> Also - the program had not been maintained since March 1998, and it was
> never supported officially by MS - read the ReadMe.txt file!
>
> AFAIK, it was created in-house for the development team - and when their
> need for it was over, was allowed out onto the MS Website for Win 95 and Win
> 98 only - I think it was taken down around two years ago, and only
> third-party sites still offer it.
>

iirc i got it right from the horses mouth (url currently not available
to the old "Mark I" due to lack of sleep) and rather recently too.




Rick
(I've used RegCleaner for ages; may or may not be freely available anymore)

Re: Reinstall Windows by Noel

Noel
Tue Feb 24 09:03:50 CST 2004

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=299958
Look at the More Info para at the bottom - and the date last modified at the
top (22ndSept 2003)! I'd have to go rooting in my boxes to find out what
changed then - but I think that it may have been the RegClean statement.

Looks like I was wrong about something, though - apparently RegClean only
actually looks at ONE branch of the registry tree = HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

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"Rick T" <plinnane3NO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eobtAWt%23DHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Noel Paton wrote:
> > The reason that MS didn't include RegClean in the ME CD is that it's not
> > strictly ME compatible, since it scan only two of the three sections of
the
> > registry.
> >
> > In normal circumstances, this doesn't matter, but......
> >
> > Also - the program had not been maintained since March 1998, and it was
> > never supported officially by MS - read the ReadMe.txt file!
> >
> > AFAIK, it was created in-house for the development team - and when their
> > need for it was over, was allowed out onto the MS Website for Win 95 and
Win
> > 98 only - I think it was taken down around two years ago, and only
> > third-party sites still offer it.
> >
>
> iirc i got it right from the horses mouth (url currently not available
> to the old "Mark I" due to lack of sleep) and rather recently too.
>
>
>
>
> Rick
> (I've used RegCleaner for ages; may or may not be freely available
anymore)



Re: Reinstall Windows by Rick

Rick
Tue Feb 24 17:19:49 CST 2004

Noel Paton wrote:

> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=299958
> Look at the More Info para at the bottom - and the date last modified at the
> top (22ndSept 2003)! I'd have to go rooting in my boxes to find out what
> changed then - but I think that it may have been the RegClean statement.

gotcha.

>
> Looks like I was wrong about something, though - apparently RegClean only
> actually looks at ONE branch of the registry tree = HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT.
>
>

Thanks; looks like I have to find another registry cleaner to promote.
And RegCleaner isn't free anymore, either.


Rick

Re: Reinstall Windows by Noel

Noel
Tue Feb 24 17:44:15 CST 2004

RegCleaner always had problems with ME, anyhow - the VarlDid (sp?) entries.

--
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"Rick T" <plinnane3NO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eLDljyy%23DHA.2592@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Noel Paton wrote:
>
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=299958
> > Look at the More Info para at the bottom - and the date last modified at
the
> > top (22ndSept 2003)! I'd have to go rooting in my boxes to find out what
> > changed then - but I think that it may have been the RegClean statement.
>
> gotcha.
>
> >
> > Looks like I was wrong about something, though - apparently RegClean
only
> > actually looks at ONE branch of the registry tree = HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks; looks like I have to find another registry cleaner to promote.
> And RegCleaner isn't free anymore, either.
>
>
> Rick



Re: Reinstall Windows by Rick

Rick
Tue Feb 24 18:59:18 CST 2004

Noel Paton wrote:

> RegCleaner always had problems with ME, anyhow - the VarlDid (sp?) entries.
>

used it for 5 years without problems [1]; what I used to ditch browser
hijackers and malware too (it has/had a convenient "New Entries"
listing). I'd definitely recommend JV16's stuff.




Rick
whose current custom/hack/slash install seems to have major VarLDID
problems but nothing I think caused by RegCleaner which doesn't add
entries (good tip though, I'll check it next time 'round)

[1] apart from the normal pitas I get using 1600x1200 and extra-large fonts