Protected music in ME

If a music CD is recorded in 'protected' format into the
MP7 Library in ME, is it possible to remove
its 'protection' at a later date? If so, how? Thanks.

Heather
Wed Feb 02 12:30:25 CST 2005

What do you mean by a "protected" format!! Copyright? You lost me on this
one.

Heather

"Jack Read" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> If a music CD is recorded in 'protected' format into the
> MP7 Library in ME, is it possible to remove
> its 'protection' at a later date? If so, how? Thanks.

Shane
Wed Feb 02 13:55:32 CST 2005

Digital Rights Management. No, you can't remove the protection. What you
have to do is configure WMP not to Copy Protect recordings. If you copy
protect a recording, then lose your licences (iirc), you can reactivate a
few times online, thereafter you're stuffed. DRM is a piece of something
no-one wants a piece of.

Shane


"Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> What do you mean by a "protected" format!! Copyright? You lost me on
> this
> one.
>
> Heather
>
> "Jack Read" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0f8d01c50953$0932d8f0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> If a music CD is recorded in 'protected' format into the
>> MP7 Library in ME, is it possible to remove
>> its 'protection' at a later date? If so, how? Thanks.
>
>

Heather
Wed Feb 02 14:44:48 CST 2005

Thanks, puss.......I haven't heard of that. I was thinking he was trying to
copy a copyrighted disc.

Figgs

"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:36cphuF4tnm03U1@individual.net...
> Digital Rights Management. No, you can't remove the protection. What you
> have to do is configure WMP not to Copy Protect recordings. If you copy
> protect a recording, then lose your licences (iirc), you can reactivate a
> few times online, thereafter you're stuffed. DRM is a piece of something
> no-one wants a piece of.
>
> Shane
>
>
> "Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ugDXjWVCFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > What do you mean by a "protected" format!! Copyright? You lost me on
> > this
> > one.
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > "Jack Read" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:0f8d01c50953$0932d8f0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >> If a music CD is recorded in 'protected' format into the
> >> MP7 Library in ME, is it possible to remove
> >> its 'protection' at a later date? If so, how? Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>

Shane
Wed Feb 02 21:07:00 CST 2005

NP, Babes! You of course have the good sense not to use WMP anyhow, don't
you!


Shane


"Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:eDI5FgWCFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, puss.......I haven't heard of that. I was thinking he was trying
> to
> copy a copyrighted disc.
>
> Figgs
>
> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:36cphuF4tnm03U1@individual.net...
>> Digital Rights Management. No, you can't remove the protection. What you
>> have to do is configure WMP not to Copy Protect recordings. If you copy
>> protect a recording, then lose your licences (iirc), you can reactivate a
>> few times online, thereafter you're stuffed. DRM is a piece of something
>> no-one wants a piece of.
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>> "Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:ugDXjWVCFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > What do you mean by a "protected" format!! Copyright? You lost me on
>> > this
>> > one.
>> >
>> > Heather
>> >
>> > "Jack Read" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:0f8d01c50953$0932d8f0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> If a music CD is recorded in 'protected' format into the
>> >> MP7 Library in ME, is it possible to remove
>> >> its 'protection' at a later date? If so, how? Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Heather
Wed Feb 02 23:37:28 CST 2005

You betcha, sweet cheeks!! Never use it. Irfanview will bring up the video
type stuff......and I stick to Roxio, CloneCD and MusicMatch.

Figgs
"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:36diqlF50bfjkU1@individual.net...
> NP, Babes! You of course have the good sense not to use WMP anyhow, don't
> you!
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eDI5FgWCFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks, puss.......I haven't heard of that. I was thinking he was
trying
> > to
> > copy a copyrighted disc.
> >
> > Figgs
> >
> > "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:36cphuF4tnm03U1@individual.net...
> >> Digital Rights Management. No, you can't remove the protection. What
you
> >> have to do is configure WMP not to Copy Protect recordings. If you copy
> >> protect a recording, then lose your licences (iirc), you can reactivate
a
> >> few times online, thereafter you're stuffed. DRM is a piece of
something
> >> no-one wants a piece of.
> >>
> >> Shane
> >>
> >>
> >> "Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:ugDXjWVCFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > What do you mean by a "protected" format!! Copyright? You lost me
on
> >> > this
> >> > one.
> >> >
> >> > Heather
> >> >
> >> > "Jack Read" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:0f8d01c50953$0932d8f0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> If a music CD is recorded in 'protected' format into the
> >> >> MP7 Library in ME, is it possible to remove
> >> >> its 'protection' at a later date? If so, how? Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

default
Thu Feb 03 09:10:58 CST 2005

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:14:29 -0800, "Jack Read"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>If a music CD is recorded in 'protected' format into the
>MP7 Library in ME, is it possible to remove
>its 'protection' at a later date? If so, how? Thanks.

There are techniques for using one's sound card to play and capture
the audio and save it to an mp3 format (sans DRM protection).

Goggle for the words: soundcard drm remove protection. Tunebite or
audiograbber are the software names I seem to remember. It requires a
full duplex sound card - one that can record and play at the same time
(common enough).

The downside is that there may be some fidelity lost and you have to
play the entire collection you wish to convert.

The RIAA is after sound card manufacturers to install a watermarking
"feature" to close this loophole. I don't know how feasible that idea
is, seems to me it would decrease fidelity and be easy enough to
circumvent.

The best way is "Just say NO!" Don't use Microfarts WMP and stick to
unprotected formats. There have been security issues with WMP DRM
also.

Some folks that claim one of MS' own development tools can be used to
circumvent the DRM protection - but I'm not up on it or interested in
it. I keep DRM formats off my system.

default
Thu Feb 03 10:08:31 CST 2005

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:14:29 -0800, "Jack Read"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>If a music CD is recorded in 'protected' format into the
>MP7 Library in ME, is it possible to remove
>its 'protection' at a later date? If so, how? Thanks.

OOPs . . . forgot about this

There is a technique that utilizes a method that "burns" the file as
an image (puts a virtual CD on the hard drive) then allows you to pick
the tracks to extract.

"The process described in this document is not illegal because you can
only perform the operation on music that can be opened by your own
Windows Media Player software. If you can't open the file because it
wasn't bought for use on your computer, you can't remove the DRM."

http://uk.geocities.com/thetomcatslair/Entertainment/DRM/drm.html

Something called Total Recorder is supposed to be able to record
anything that can be played through the soundcard . I've used this
program in the past and it worked very well.

"Total Recorder can record any sound that your sound card plays
without losing quality. Use Total Recorder to record music played by
virtually any sound playback program in the world. It can convert
different sound formats to WAV format, record from any sound card
input, and record Internet telephony conversations (even full duplex).
In addition, it includes a built-in scheduler for future recordings
and playbacks."

http://www.soft32.com/download_284.html

It is $12 shareware, but there may be an earlier free version on the
web.

Jack
Sun Feb 06 05:07:02 CST 2005

The default setting for recording music in my ME WMP7 was
a tick in the DRM box. As a result all my recorded music
became protected. I subsequently discovered that by
removing the tick all new recordings were unprotected. My
original question was to find a way to unprotect the
earlier protected music. I now understand that it cant be
done.
The reason I needed it was because I couldnt burn music
direct from WMP and so needed to change the format from
wma to wav and burn CDs thru Nero. I cannot convert
Protected mwa music into wav but I can with unprotected
music. Complicated isnt it. Sorry about that.


>-----Original Message-----
>What do you mean by a "protected" format!! Copyright?
You lost me on this
>one.
>
>Heather
>
>"Jack Read" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message
>news:0f8d01c50953$0932d8f0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> If a music CD is recorded in 'protected' format into the
>> MP7 Library in ME, is it possible to remove
>> its 'protection' at a later date? If so, how? Thanks.
>
>
>.
>

Jack
Tue Feb 08 08:44:44 CST 2005

Security Overview of Microsoft Windows Media Rights Manager

Andrea Pruneda
Microsoft Digital Media Division October 2001
Summary: This article provides an overview of the security features provided
by the Microsoft Windows Media Rights Manager Software Development Kit to
help content owners protect their digital media rights and curtail Internet
piracy.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwmt/html/wmrm71security.asp

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"Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> You betcha, sweet cheeks!! Never use it. Irfanview will bring up the
video
> type stuff......and I stick to Roxio, CloneCD and MusicMatch.
>
> Figgs
> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:36diqlF50bfjkU1@individual.net...
> > NP, Babes! You of course have the good sense not to use WMP anyhow,
don't
> > you!
> >
> >
> > Shane
> >
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