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Noel:

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changed from the way it was before.
My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
What is the status on my report?

Harry.
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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by Mart

Mart
Tue May 23 00:40:00 CDT 2006

Harry,

> I still get the very same error message and
> nothing changed from the way it was before.

Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.

Just to recap :-

When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive letters,
according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected? (e.g.
A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)

Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive letters?

Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?

BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the News
Groups.

Mart


"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Noel:

After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following your
instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed
from the way it was before.
My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
What is the status on my report?

Harry.


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by webster72n

webster72n
Tue May 23 12:07:12 CDT 2006


Mart:

Thanks for the reply, but where is Noel? Hope he is not ill.
Concerning your question about my drives, I'm a bit at a loss, because of
what happened in between with my harddrive, if you can recall. When fixing
that, I came across a feature to partition unallocated space and I went
ahead to do that. It worked too, but in the process the new drive became 'E'
and CD-Rom went from 'E' to 'F', leaving the error messages unchanged.
Also I seem to recall CD-ROM being 'R/W' instead of just 'W'.
As for the rest of your question, I need specific instructions for producing
the required information. I did send my aida32-report to Noel with no
response.
To tell you the truth, I'm at the end of my tolerance and ready to replace
the CD-ROM drive in the hope this will fix it.
The exact error messages are:
"The disk in drive F is not formatted. Do you want to format it now?"
Clicking on "Yes" brings up:
"This drive cannot be formatted".
Next I get the message:
"The disk in drive F cannot be formatted.."
An inserted disk is not recognized and , as a matter of fact, none of the
specific abilities/properties of the drive show up, including 'Format' and
'Eject', with eject still being listed and format not.

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Harry,
>
> > I still get the very same error message and
> > nothing changed from the way it was before.
>
> Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
>
> Just to recap :-
>
> When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive letters,
> according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected?
(e.g.
> A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
>
> Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
letters?
>
> Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
>
> BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the News
> Groups.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Noel:
>
> After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following your
> instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed
> from the way it was before.
> My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
> What is the status on my report?
>
> Harry.
>
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by webster72n

webster72n
Tue May 23 13:34:18 CDT 2006


It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one "confirm" the
CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS?
Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem originated.

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Harry,
>
> > I still get the very same error message and
> > nothing changed from the way it was before.
>
> Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
>
> Just to recap :-
>
> When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive letters,
> according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected?
(e.g.
> A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
>
> Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
letters?
>
> Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
>
> BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the News
> Groups.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Noel:
>
> After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following your
> instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed
> from the way it was before.
> My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
> What is the status on my report?
>
> Harry.
>
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by Heather

Heather
Tue May 23 13:50:53 CDT 2006

What in heck is "REAL MODE DOS"???? Is this Merkin-speak for something?

WinME doesn't have DOS. So pardon me if I ask you what in h*ll you are
talking about.

I think it is about time you took that machine into a tech who knows
what he is doing and forget mucking about yourself......you usually
screw it up good!! And then do another reinstall.....#65 coming up?? I
have lost track.

HF
"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%231V2RcpfGHA.452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one "confirm"
> the
> CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS?
> Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem originated.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Harry,
>>
>> > I still get the very same error message and
>> > nothing changed from the way it was before.
>>
>> Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
>>
>> Just to recap :-
>>
>> When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive
>> letters,
>> according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected?
> (e.g.
>> A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
>>
>> Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
> letters?
>>
>> Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
>>
>> BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the
>> News
>> Groups.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Noel:
>>
>> After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following
>> your
>> instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing
>> changed
>> from the way it was before.
>> My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
>> What is the status on my report?
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by webster72n

webster72n
Tue May 23 14:03:53 CDT 2006


What'n the h*** are you raving about, Heather?
All you have to do is, look at Mart's last thread, I didn't make that up. As
for the rest of your comments, I can do without, thank you.

Harry.


"Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:OKhMhmpfGHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> What in heck is "REAL MODE DOS"???? Is this Merkin-speak for something?
>
> WinME doesn't have DOS. So pardon me if I ask you what in h*ll you are
> talking about.
>
> I think it is about time you took that machine into a tech who knows
> what he is doing and forget mucking about yourself......you usually
> screw it up good!! And then do another reinstall.....#65 coming up?? I
> have lost track.
>
> HF
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%231V2RcpfGHA.452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >
> > It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one "confirm"
> > the
> > CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS?
> > Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem originated.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> Harry,
> >>
> >> > I still get the very same error message and
> >> > nothing changed from the way it was before.
> >>
> >> Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
> >>
> >> Just to recap :-
> >>
> >> When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive
> >> letters,
> >> according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected?
> > (e.g.
> >> A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
> >>
> >> Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
> > letters?
> >>
> >> Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
> >>
> >> BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the
> >> News
> >> Groups.
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> Noel:
> >>
> >> After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following
> >> your
> >> instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing
> >> changed
> >> from the way it was before.
> >> My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
> >> What is the status on my report?
> >>
> >> Harry.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by webster72n

webster72n
Tue May 23 14:44:51 CDT 2006

Mart:

In Safe Mode the "Compact Disk (F)" doesn't show as in windows.
In Device Manager the "Teac CD-W58E" is listed also
But it lost its ability to read and that's entirely possible, as mentioned
before. In that instance a replacement is the only solution.
As far as I am concerned: 'case closed!'

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Harry,
>
> > I still get the very same error message and
> > nothing changed from the way it was before.
>
> Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
>
> Just to recap :-
>
> When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive letters,
> according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected?
(e.g.
> A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
>
> Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
letters?
>
> Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
>
> BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the News
> Groups.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Noel:
>
> After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following your
> instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed
> from the way it was before.
> My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
> What is the status on my report?
>
> Harry.
>
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by Mart

Mart
Tue May 23 15:26:57 CDT 2006

First a note to Heather :-

It's been a V E R Y L O N G trek Heather, - around the houses, but Harry
and I are (I hope) making some progress, albeit three forward and two back.
I hope to nail the issue of a 'suspect' CD-ROM (writer) so please bear with
me.

BTW - Real Mode DOS - as per WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk. Oh! and Harry, NOT
Safe Mode!!


Now to Harry, put your Error Report to one side for a moment - with a bit of
luck things *should* become clearer.

You need to try to determine whether the problem with your CD-ROM drive is a
WinMe/Software issue or a genuine 'faulty' CD-ROM and/or associated
cabling/connections.

Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive.
Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support.

Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. You should be aware that the
drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see
in Windows.

For example, you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen should
show:
> Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
> Your CD-ROM Is Drive E

When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an A:\>
prompt.

Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the CD-ROM
and at the A:\> prompt, type "E:"
(no quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.

Now, at the E:\> prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then
press Return.

You should see a listing of the CD contents.

Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any.

Mart



"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23mV5zspfGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> What'n the h*** are you raving about, Heather?
> All you have to do is, look at Mart's last thread, I didn't make that up.
> As
> for the rest of your comments, I can do without, thank you.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OKhMhmpfGHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> What in heck is "REAL MODE DOS"???? Is this Merkin-speak for something?
>>
>> WinME doesn't have DOS. So pardon me if I ask you what in h*ll you are
>> talking about.
>>
>> I think it is about time you took that machine into a tech who knows
>> what he is doing and forget mucking about yourself......you usually
>> screw it up good!! And then do another reinstall.....#65 coming up?? I
>> have lost track.
>>
>> HF
>> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%231V2RcpfGHA.452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one "confirm"
>> > the
>> > CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS?
>> > Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem originated.
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> > news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> Harry,
>> >>
>> >> > I still get the very same error message and
>> >> > nothing changed from the way it was before.
>> >>
>> >> Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
>> >>
>> >> Just to recap :-
>> >>
>> >> When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive
>> >> letters,
>> >> according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected?
>> > (e.g.
>> >> A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
>> >>
>> >> Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
>> > letters?
>> >>
>> >> Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
>> >>
>> >> BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the
>> >> News
>> >> Groups.
>> >>
>> >> Mart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Noel:
>> >>
>> >> After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following
>> >> your
>> >> instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing
>> >> changed
>> >> from the way it was before.
>> >> My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
>> >> What is the status on my report?
>> >>
>> >> Harry.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by TomV

TomV
Tue May 23 15:41:35 CDT 2006

Harry,

FWIW, it seems the source of your problem with this issue may be the
fact that you partitioned the unallocated space on the hard disk. Where
did you come "across a feature to partition unallocated space?" When
you created the new partition, did the "feature" you reference re-map
the drives? If not, I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands and
thus the reason you're seeing the error message(s).

Tom

webster72n wrote:
> Mart:
>
> Thanks for the reply, but where is Noel? Hope he is not ill.
> Concerning your question about my drives, I'm a bit at a loss, because of
> what happened in between with my harddrive, if you can recall. When fixing
> that, I came across a feature to partition unallocated space and I went
> ahead to do that. It worked too, but in the process the new drive became 'E'
> and CD-Rom went from 'E' to 'F', leaving the error messages unchanged.
> Also I seem to recall CD-ROM being 'R/W' instead of just 'W'.
> As for the rest of your question, I need specific instructions for producing
> the required information. I did send my aida32-report to Noel with no
> response.
> To tell you the truth, I'm at the end of my tolerance and ready to replace
> the CD-ROM drive in the hope this will fix it.
> The exact error messages are:
> "The disk in drive F is not formatted. Do you want to format it now?"
> Clicking on "Yes" brings up:
> "This drive cannot be formatted".
> Next I get the message:
> "The disk in drive F cannot be formatted.."
> An inserted disk is not recognized and , as a matter of fact, none of the
> specific abilities/properties of the drive show up, including 'Format' and
> 'Eject', with eject still being listed and format not.
>
> Harry.

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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by Mart

Mart
Tue May 23 15:48:31 CDT 2006

Harry, you WILL NOT SEE your CD-ROM in Safe Mode (except in DevMan) as the
drivers are not loaded. Therefore cannot be accessed (or seen) in Windows
Explorer. See my other reply.

Mart


"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23Nn8sDqfGHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Mart:
>
> In Safe Mode the "Compact Disk (F)" doesn't show as in windows.
> In Device Manager the "Teac CD-W58E" is listed also
> But it lost its ability to read and that's entirely possible, as mentioned
> before. In that instance a replacement is the only solution.
> As far as I am concerned: 'case closed!'
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Harry,
>>
>> > I still get the very same error message and
>> > nothing changed from the way it was before.
>>
>> Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
>>
>> Just to recap :-
>>
>> When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive letters,
>> according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected?
> (e.g.
>> A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
>>
>> Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
> letters?
>>
>> Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
>>
>> BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the News
>> Groups.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Noel:
>>
>> After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following your
>> instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed
>> from the way it was before.
>> My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
>> What is the status on my report?
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by Mart

Mart
Tue May 23 16:02:18 CDT 2006

Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space" is another
V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many News Group column
inches, for which everyone and his dog has tried to get Harry to fix. Best
left well alone <g>

> .. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands

Couldn't possibly comment <g>

Mart


"TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:%23F5tClqfGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Harry,
>
> FWIW, it seems the source of your problem with this issue may be the fact
> that you partitioned the unallocated space on the hard disk. Where did
> you come "across a feature to partition unallocated space?" When you
> created the new partition, did the "feature" you reference re-map the
> drives? If not, I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands and thus
> the reason you're seeing the error message(s).
>
> Tom
>
> webster72n wrote:
>> Mart:
>>
>> Thanks for the reply, but where is Noel? Hope he is not ill.
>> Concerning your question about my drives, I'm a bit at a loss, because of
>> what happened in between with my harddrive, if you can recall. When
>> fixing
>> that, I came across a feature to partition unallocated space and I went
>> ahead to do that. It worked too, but in the process the new drive became
>> 'E'
>> and CD-Rom went from 'E' to 'F', leaving the error messages unchanged.
>> Also I seem to recall CD-ROM being 'R/W' instead of just 'W'.
>> As for the rest of your question, I need specific instructions for
>> producing
>> the required information. I did send my aida32-report to Noel with no
>> response.
>> To tell you the truth, I'm at the end of my tolerance and ready to
>> replace
>> the CD-ROM drive in the hope this will fix it.
>> The exact error messages are:
>> "The disk in drive F is not formatted. Do you want to format it now?"
>> Clicking on "Yes" brings up:
>> "This drive cannot be formatted".
>> Next I get the message:
>> "The disk in drive F cannot be formatted.."
>> An inserted disk is not recognized and , as a matter of fact, none of the
>> specific abilities/properties of the drive show up, including 'Format'
>> and
>> 'Eject', with eject still being listed and format not.
>>
>> Harry.
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by Noel

Noel
Tue May 23 16:48:24 CDT 2006

Harry
Go with Mart on this - he's the past-master on CD-R problems!
FWIW, I can see nothing wrong with the AIDA report (Mart - I'll pass it on
to you if you want?)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Noel:

After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following your
instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed
from the way it was before.
My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
What is the status on my report?

Harry.

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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by TomV

TomV
Tue May 23 18:00:49 CDT 2006

Hi, Mart,

Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from many
months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago. ;)

It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the "partition
zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify a potential cause
of the current issue. I certainly don't want to revisit territory
that's already been well charted. :)

Tom

Mart wrote:
> Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space" is another
> V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many News Group column
> inches, for which everyone and his dog has tried to get Harry to fix. Best
> left well alone <g>
>
>> .. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands
>
> Couldn't possibly comment <g>
>
> Mart
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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by Mart

Mart
Tue May 23 19:01:06 CDT 2006

LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of his 'current
issues' you wish to forensically debate.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. <g>

Mart


"TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eZDT2yrfGHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Mart,
>
> Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from many months
> ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago. ;)
>
> It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the "partition
> zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify a potential cause of
> the current issue. I certainly don't want to revisit territory that's
> already been well charted. :)
>
> Tom
>
> Mart wrote:
>> Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space" is
>> another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many News Group
>> column inches, for which everyone and his dog has tried to get Harry to
>> fix. Best left well alone <g>
>>
>>> .. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands
>>
>> Couldn't possibly comment <g>
>>
>> Mart


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by webster72n

webster72n
Tue May 23 20:16:24 CDT 2006


Tom:
The partitioning took place 'after' the CDRTC isssue and it is part of the
'Lifeguard Tools' for the harddrive itself. No problems with that.
In other words, no connection between the two.
Thanks anyhow.

Harry.


"TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:%23F5tClqfGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Harry,
>
> FWIW, it seems the source of your problem with this issue may be the
> fact that you partitioned the unallocated space on the hard disk. Where
> did you come "across a feature to partition unallocated space?" When
> you created the new partition, did the "feature" you reference re-map
> the drives? If not, I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands and
> thus the reason you're seeing the error message(s).
>
> Tom
>
> webster72n wrote:
> > Mart:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply, but where is Noel? Hope he is not ill.
> > Concerning your question about my drives, I'm a bit at a loss, because
of
> > what happened in between with my harddrive, if you can recall. When
fixing
> > that, I came across a feature to partition unallocated space and I went
> > ahead to do that. It worked too, but in the process the new drive became
'E'
> > and CD-Rom went from 'E' to 'F', leaving the error messages unchanged.
> > Also I seem to recall CD-ROM being 'R/W' instead of just 'W'.
> > As for the rest of your question, I need specific instructions for
producing
> > the required information. I did send my aida32-report to Noel with no
> > response.
> > To tell you the truth, I'm at the end of my tolerance and ready to
replace
> > the CD-ROM drive in the hope this will fix it.
> > The exact error messages are:
> > "The disk in drive F is not formatted. Do you want to format it now?"
> > Clicking on "Yes" brings up:
> > "This drive cannot be formatted".
> > Next I get the message:
> > "The disk in drive F cannot be formatted.."
> > An inserted disk is not recognized and , as a matter of fact, none of
the
> > specific abilities/properties of the drive show up, including 'Format'
and
> > 'Eject', with eject still being listed and format not.
> >
> > Harry.
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by webster72n

webster72n
Tue May 23 20:19:37 CDT 2006


Thank you, Mart, in between chores I am trying to take care of this.
Printed your instructions and will execute.
Give me some time, please.

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:OK3$9cqfGHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> First a note to Heather :-
>
> It's been a V E R Y L O N G trek Heather, - around the houses, but
Harry
> and I are (I hope) making some progress, albeit three forward and two
back.
> I hope to nail the issue of a 'suspect' CD-ROM (writer) so please bear
with
> me.
>
> BTW - Real Mode DOS - as per WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk. Oh! and Harry,
NOT
> Safe Mode!!
>
>
> Now to Harry, put your Error Report to one side for a moment - with a bit
of
> luck things *should* become clearer.
>
> You need to try to determine whether the problem with your CD-ROM drive is
a
> WinMe/Software issue or a genuine 'faulty' CD-ROM and/or associated
> cabling/connections.
>
> Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive.
> Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support.
>
> Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
> should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. You should be aware that
the
> drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would expect to
see
> in Windows.
>
> For example, you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen should
> show:
> > Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
> > Your CD-ROM Is Drive E
>
> When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an
A:\>
> prompt.
>
> Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the CD-ROM
> and at the A:\> prompt, type "E:"
> (no quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.
>
> Now, at the E:\> prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then
> press Return.
>
> You should see a listing of the CD contents.
>
> Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23mV5zspfGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> > What'n the h*** are you raving about, Heather?
> > All you have to do is, look at Mart's last thread, I didn't make that
up.
> > As
> > for the rest of your comments, I can do without, thank you.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:OKhMhmpfGHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> What in heck is "REAL MODE DOS"???? Is this Merkin-speak for
something?
> >>
> >> WinME doesn't have DOS. So pardon me if I ask you what in h*ll you are
> >> talking about.
> >>
> >> I think it is about time you took that machine into a tech who knows
> >> what he is doing and forget mucking about yourself......you usually
> >> screw it up good!! And then do another reinstall.....#65 coming up??
I
> >> have lost track.
> >>
> >> HF
> >> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%231V2RcpfGHA.452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one "confirm"
> >> > the
> >> > CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS?
> >> > Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem originated.
> >> >
> >> > Harry.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> >> > news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Harry,
> >> >>
> >> >> > I still get the very same error message and
> >> >> > nothing changed from the way it was before.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just to recap :-
> >> >>
> >> >> When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive
> >> >> letters,
> >> >> according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have
connected?
> >> > (e.g.
> >> >> A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
> >> >>
> >> >> Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
> >> > letters?
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
> >> >>
> >> >> BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the
> >> >> News
> >> >> Groups.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mart
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Noel:
> >> >>
> >> >> After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following
> >> >> your
> >> >> instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing
> >> >> changed
> >> >> from the way it was before.
> >> >> My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
> >> >> What is the status on my report?
> >> >>
> >> >> Harry.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by webster72n

webster72n
Tue May 23 21:54:57 CDT 2006


I actually enjoyed doing this, Mart.
There were no error reports and I did get the listing of the CD contents.
This was on drive 'G', the virtual drive, I believe.
I also tried the same with the actual cd-rom drive 'F' with these results
(without a cd in it):
"Volume in drive F is MS-RAMDRIVE, Directory of F:\
ATTRIB EXE 15,252 06-07-00 8:05p
CHKDSK EXE (omitted to ease operation)
COMMAND COM "
DEBUG EXE "
EDIT COM "
EXTRACT EXE "
FORMAT COM "
HELP BAT "
MSCDEX EXE "
README TXT "
SCANDISK EXE "
SCANDISK INI "
SYS COM "
14 file(s) 655.851 bytes
0 dir(s) 1,427,456 bytes free."

By the looks of it I may have omitted one of the files, there are only
thirteen upon counting. If it should matter, I will give you the possibly
missing one later.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:OK3$9cqfGHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> First a note to Heather :-
>
> It's been a V E R Y L O N G trek Heather, - around the houses, but
Harry
> and I are (I hope) making some progress, albeit three forward and two
back.
> I hope to nail the issue of a 'suspect' CD-ROM (writer) so please bear
with
> me.
>
> BTW - Real Mode DOS - as per WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk. Oh! and Harry,
NOT
> Safe Mode!!
>
>
> Now to Harry, put your Error Report to one side for a moment - with a bit
of
> luck things *should* become clearer.
>
> You need to try to determine whether the problem with your CD-ROM drive is
a
> WinMe/Software issue or a genuine 'faulty' CD-ROM and/or associated
> cabling/connections.
>
> Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive.
> Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support.
>
> Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
> should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. You should be aware that
the
> drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would expect to
see
> in Windows.
>
> For example, you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen should
> show:
> > Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
> > Your CD-ROM Is Drive E
>
> When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an
A:\>
> prompt.
>
> Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the CD-ROM
> and at the A:\> prompt, type "E:"
> (no quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.
>
> Now, at the E:\> prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then
> press Return.
>
> You should see a listing of the CD contents.
>
> Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23mV5zspfGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> > What'n the h*** are you raving about, Heather?
> > All you have to do is, look at Mart's last thread, I didn't make that
up.
> > As
> > for the rest of your comments, I can do without, thank you.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:OKhMhmpfGHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> What in heck is "REAL MODE DOS"???? Is this Merkin-speak for
something?
> >>
> >> WinME doesn't have DOS. So pardon me if I ask you what in h*ll you are
> >> talking about.
> >>
> >> I think it is about time you took that machine into a tech who knows
> >> what he is doing and forget mucking about yourself......you usually
> >> screw it up good!! And then do another reinstall.....#65 coming up??
I
> >> have lost track.
> >>
> >> HF
> >> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%231V2RcpfGHA.452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one "confirm"
> >> > the
> >> > CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS?
> >> > Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem originated.
> >> >
> >> > Harry.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> >> > news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Harry,
> >> >>
> >> >> > I still get the very same error message and
> >> >> > nothing changed from the way it was before.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just to recap :-
> >> >>
> >> >> When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive
> >> >> letters,
> >> >> according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have
connected?
> >> > (e.g.
> >> >> A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
> >> >>
> >> >> Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
> >> > letters?
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
> >> >>
> >> >> BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the
> >> >> News
> >> >> Groups.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mart
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Noel:
> >> >>
> >> >> After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following
> >> >> your
> >> >> instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing
> >> >> changed
> >> >> from the way it was before.
> >> >> My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
> >> >> What is the status on my report?
> >> >>
> >> >> Harry.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by John

John
Tue May 23 22:09:42 CDT 2006

Is that the FORMAT command that I saw there?

webster72n wrote:
> I actually enjoyed doing this, Mart.
> There were no error reports and I did get the listing of the CD contents.
> This was on drive 'G', the virtual drive, I believe.
> I also tried the same with the actual cd-rom drive 'F' with these results
> (without a cd in it):
> "Volume in drive F is MS-RAMDRIVE, Directory of F:\
> ATTRIB EXE 15,252 06-07-00 8:05p
> CHKDSK EXE (omitted to ease operation)
> COMMAND COM "
> DEBUG EXE "
> EDIT COM "
> EXTRACT EXE "
> FORMAT COM "
> HELP BAT "
> MSCDEX EXE "
> README TXT "
> SCANDISK EXE "
> SCANDISK INI "
> SYS COM "
> 14 file(s) 655.851 bytes
> 0 dir(s) 1,427,456 bytes free."
>
> By the looks of it I may have omitted one of the files, there are only
> thirteen upon counting. If it should matter, I will give you the possibly
> missing one later.
> I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:OK3$9cqfGHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>>First a note to Heather :-
>>
>>It's been a V E R Y L O N G trek Heather, - around the houses, but
>
> Harry
>
>>and I are (I hope) making some progress, albeit three forward and two
>
> back.
>
>>I hope to nail the issue of a 'suspect' CD-ROM (writer) so please bear
>
> with
>
>>me.
>>
>>BTW - Real Mode DOS - as per WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk. Oh! and Harry,
>
> NOT
>
>>Safe Mode!!
>>
>>
>>Now to Harry, put your Error Report to one side for a moment - with a bit
>
> of
>
>>luck things *should* become clearer.
>>
>>You need to try to determine whether the problem with your CD-ROM drive is
>
> a
>
>>WinMe/Software issue or a genuine 'faulty' CD-ROM and/or associated
>>cabling/connections.
>>
>>Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive.
>>Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support.
>>
>>Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
>>should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. You should be aware that
>
> the
>
>>drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would expect to
>
> see
>
>>in Windows.
>>
>>For example, you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen should
>>show:
>>
>>>Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
>>>Your CD-ROM Is Drive E
>>
>>When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an
>
> A:\>
>
>>prompt.
>>
>>Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the CD-ROM
>>and at the A:\> prompt, type "E:"
>>(no quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.
>>
>>Now, at the E:\> prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then
>>press Return.
>>
>>You should see a listing of the CD contents.
>>
>>Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any.
>>
>>Mart
>>
>>
>>
>>"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:%23mV5zspfGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>What'n the h*** are you raving about, Heather?
>>>All you have to do is, look at Mart's last thread, I didn't make that
>
> up.
>
>>>As
>>>for the rest of your comments, I can do without, thank you.
>>>
>>> Harry.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:OKhMhmpfGHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>What in heck is "REAL MODE DOS"???? Is this Merkin-speak for
>
> something?
>
>>>>WinME doesn't have DOS. So pardon me if I ask you what in h*ll you are
>>>>talking about.
>>>>
>>>>I think it is about time you took that machine into a tech who knows
>>>>what he is doing and forget mucking about yourself......you usually
>>>>screw it up good!! And then do another reinstall.....#65 coming up??
>
> I
>
>>>>have lost track.
>>>>
>>>>HF
>>>>"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:%231V2RcpfGHA.452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>>It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one "confirm"
>>>>>the
>>>>>CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS?
>>>>>Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem originated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>>>>>news:%23SUdWtifGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Harry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I still get the very same error message and
>>>>>>>nothing changed from the way it was before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just to recap :-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When things were normal <g> what were ALL your 'original' drive
>>>>>>letters,
>>>>>>according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have
>
> connected?
>
>>>>>(e.g.
>>>>>
>>>>>>A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
>>>>>
>>>>>letters?
>>>>>
>>>>>>Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the
>>>>>>News
>>>>>>Groups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:uts0ExhfGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>Noel:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following
>>>>>>your
>>>>>>instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing
>>>>>>changed
>>>>>>from the way it was before.
>>>>>>My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
>>>>>>What is the status on my report?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Noel - CDRTC.DLL by John

John
Tue May 23 22:18:35 CDT 2006

And where did chkdsk come from???

John John wrote:

> Is that the FORMAT command that I saw there?
>
> webster72n wrote:
>
>> I actually enjoyed doing this, Mart.
>> There were no error reports and I did get the listing of the CD contents.
>> This was on drive 'G', the virtual drive, I believe.
>> I also tried the same with the actual cd-rom drive 'F' with these results
>> (without a cd in it):
>> "Volume in drive F is MS-RAMDRIVE, Directory of F:\
>> ATTRIB EXE 15,252 06-07-00 8:05p
>> CHKDSK EXE (omitted to ease operation)
>> COMMAND COM "
>> DEBUG EXE "
>> EDIT COM "
>> EXTRACT EXE "
>> FORMAT COM "
>> HELP BAT "
>> MSCDEX EXE "
>> README TXT "
>> SCANDISK EXE "
>> SCANDISK INI "
>> SYS COM "
>> 14 file(s) 655.851 bytes
>> 0 dir(s) 1,427,456 bytes free."
>>
>> By the looks of it I may have omitted one of the files, there are only
>> thirteen upon counting. If it should matter, I will give you the possibly
>> missing one later.
>> I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:OK3$9cqfGHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> First a note to Heather :-
>>>
>>> It's been a V E R Y L O N G trek Heather, - around the houses, but
>>
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>> and I are (I hope) making some progress, albeit three forward and two
>>
>>
>> back.
>>
>>> I hope to nail the issue of a 'suspect' CD-ROM (writer) so please bear
>>
>>
>> with
>>
>>> me.
>>>
>>> BTW - Real Mode DOS - as per WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk. Oh! and Harry,
>>
>>
>> NOT
>>
>>> Safe Mode!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Now to Harry, put your Error Report to one side for a moment - with a
>>> bit
>>
>>
>> of
>>
>>> luck things *should* become clearer.
>>>
>>> You need to try to determine whether the problem with your CD-ROM
>>> drive is
>>
>>
>> a
>>
>>> WinMe/Software issue or a genuine 'faulty' CD-ROM and/or associated
>>> cabling/connections.
>>>
>>> Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive.
>>> Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support.
>>>
>>> Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
>>> should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. You should be aware that
>>
>>
>> the
>>
>>> drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would expect to
>>
>>
>> see
>>
>>> in Windows.
>>>
>>> For example, you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen
>>> should
>>> show:
>>>
>>>> Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
>>>> Your CD-ROM Is Drive E
>>>
>>>
>>> When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an
>>
>>
>> A:\>
>>
>>> prompt.
>>>
>>> Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the