Password Protecting Windows ME

I have seen my question posted before but have not seen any
satisfactory answers so far.

I have Windows ME on a GenuineIntel Pentium III processor.

I would like to password protect my PC but ME has this ingenious idea
that, when Windows in password protected, a log-in window come up and
the user has the choice of either entering the user name or password or
simply clicking Cancel. (Is that great protection or what! I hope MS
doesn't provide software to my bank or to airport security.)

I saw someone suggest going to "My Network Places", choosing Properties
and setting the "Primary Network Login" to "Windows Logon". No
difference.

I then tried password protection using BIOS. It doesn't stop Windows
starting up but asks for a password to get into BIOS and doesn't accept
the password I have for Windows.

Two questions.
1/ Can anyone tell me if there is any way to actually password protect
Windows ME or do I need to get another OS?
2/ Can anyone tell me how I can now access BIOS?

Many thanks in advance,
Peter.

oops!!
Mon May 29 09:24:22 CDT 2006


Peter,

This is not perfect but helps:

Force Users to Logon to Windows (Windows 95/98/Me)
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/629/

Good luck,

Zee





<MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote in message
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>I have seen my question posted before but have not seen any
> satisfactory answers so far.
>
> I have Windows ME on a GenuineIntel Pentium III processor.
>
> I would like to password protect my PC but ME has this ingenious idea
> that, when Windows in password protected, a log-in window come up and
> the user has the choice of either entering the user name or password or
> simply clicking Cancel. (Is that great protection or what! I hope MS
> doesn't provide software to my bank or to airport security.)
>
> I saw someone suggest going to "My Network Places", choosing Properties
> and setting the "Primary Network Login" to "Windows Logon". No
> difference.
>
> I then tried password protection using BIOS. It doesn't stop Windows
> starting up but asks for a password to get into BIOS and doesn't accept
> the password I have for Windows.
>
> Two questions.
> 1/ Can anyone tell me if there is any way to actually password protect
> Windows ME or do I need to get another OS?
> 2/ Can anyone tell me how I can now access BIOS?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Peter.
>

John
Mon May 29 09:39:30 CDT 2006

Zee answered your first question, as for the second:

> 2/ Can anyone tell me how I can now access BIOS?

Give it the password that you protected it with!

John

Mike
Mon May 29 09:38:06 CDT 2006

MajorSetback@excite.com <MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote:

> I have seen my question posted before but have not seen any
> satisfactory answers so far.

Win Me was never intended to be a secure system. If that is your
requirement then you should consider using either Win2K or better XP as
both of these are designed for such use. Alternatively you could use this
solution from Doug Knox http://www.dougknox.com/security/validated.htm

> I have Windows ME on a GenuineIntel Pentium III processor.
>
> I would like to password protect my PC but ME has this ingenious idea
> that, when Windows in password protected, a log-in window come up and
> the user has the choice of either entering the user name or password
> or simply clicking Cancel. (Is that great protection or what! I
> hope MS doesn't provide software to my bank or to airport security.)

This feature is not intended to provide any protection but rather to allow
different users to customise their desktop etc, to meet their needs.

> I saw someone suggest going to "My Network Places", choosing
> Properties and setting the "Primary Network Login" to "Windows
> Logon". No difference.

Again no surprises there since this is not what Windows Logon is about.

> I then tried password protection using BIOS. It doesn't stop Windows
> starting up but asks for a password to get into BIOS and doesn't
> accept the password I have for Windows.
>
> Two questions.
> 1/ Can anyone tell me if there is any way to actually password protect
> Windows ME or do I need to get another OS?

As previously stated Win Me was never intended to be a secure system so
using an OS that was designed for such use would be a good idea.

> 2/ Can anyone tell me how I can now access BIOS?

In the way that you have always done. If you have assigned a password,
use that password. Note that the operating system in use on a PC has
nothing to do with any password that might be required to access the bios.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows [2001-2006]
mike.maltby@gmail.com

MajorSetback
Mon May 29 10:49:45 CDT 2006

oops!! wrote:
> Peter,
>
> This is not perfect but helps:
>
> Force Users to Logon to Windows (Windows 95/98/Me)
> http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/629/
>
Hi Zee,

I tried that by it does not appear to work.
1/ Went to regedit
2/ Went to
[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
3/ Made new value, NoLogon, and set its value to RUNDLL32
shell32,SHExitWindowsEx 0

4/ Cancel still gets me in.

Thanks,
Peter.

MajorSetback
Mon May 29 10:58:07 CDT 2006

oops!! wrote:
> Peter,
>
> This is not perfect but helps:
>
> Force Users to Logon to Windows (Windows 95/98/Me)
> http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/629/
>
> Good luck,
>
> Zee

Hi Zee,

That seems to work. There is a bit of a delay before it comes back to
the logon screen. I wonder if a determined sabiteur could do much in
that time.

Thanks very much for your help,
Peter.

oops!!
Mon May 29 11:24:32 CDT 2006


<MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote in message
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> oops!! wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> This is not perfect but helps:
>>
>> Force Users to Logon to Windows (Windows 95/98/Me)
>> http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/629/
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Zee
>
> Hi Zee,
>
> That seems to work. There is a bit of a delay before it comes back to
> the logon screen. I wonder if a determined sabiteur could do much in
> that time.
>
> Thanks very much for your help,
> Peter.



Peter,

With Windows ME everything is possible.

As Mike Maltby posted, this was never intended to be a secure OS, but rather
for the Home User.

If you really need to secure your PC, start by taking a look at alternative
versions of Windows, also as posted: 2000 or even better XP, if your
hardware and software can cope with it.

Useful link:

Windows XP Professional Upgrade Center
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/default.mspx

Good luck,

Zee

MajorSetback
Mon May 29 12:54:27 CDT 2006


John John wrote:
> Zee answered your first question, as for the second:
>
> > 2/ Can anyone tell me how I can now access BIOS?
>
> Give it the password that you protected it with!
>

I do not think I assigned it a password. I thought it would use the
password I had for Windows but apparently that was a mistake. Is there
some way I can get in and change it? When I start typing, it will not
let me finish but puts an X and asks for the password again. After
doing this 3 times, it goes to Windows. The opposite effect of what I
had intended.

Thanks,
Peter.

MajorSetback
Mon May 29 12:59:22 CDT 2006


Mike M wrote:
> MajorSetback@excite.com <MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote:
>
> > I have seen my question posted before but have not seen any
> > satisfactory answers so far.
>
> Win Me was never intended to be a secure system. If that is your
> requirement then you should consider using either Win2K or better XP as
> both of these are designed for such use. Alternatively you could use this
> solution from Doug Knox http://www.dougknox.com/security/validated.htm
>

I have been trying that. In the instrustions, it says to create a
startup disk (which I have done). It then says to "Save the
valid_no.reg and valid_ok.reg files that were included in the ZIP to
your Startup Disk". There is a zip file on my startup disk but it does
not include files of those names.

Thanks,
Peter.

oops!!
Mon May 29 13:00:19 CDT 2006


Try NOT typing and pressing ENTER.

Zee



<MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote in message
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>
> John John wrote:
>> Zee answered your first question, as for the second:
>>
>> > 2/ Can anyone tell me how I can now access BIOS?
>>
>> Give it the password that you protected it with!
>>
>
> I do not think I assigned it a password. I thought it would use the
> password I had for Windows but apparently that was a mistake. Is there
> some way I can get in and change it? When I start typing, it will not
> let me finish but puts an X and asks for the password again. After
> doing this 3 times, it goes to Windows. The opposite effect of what I
> had intended.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter.
>

Mike
Mon May 29 13:15:28 CDT 2006

Download the zip to your desktop, extract the two reg files valid_no.reg
and valid_ok.reg and copy them to your startup floppy.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


MajorSetback@excite.com <MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote:

> I have been trying that. In the instrustions, it says to create a
> startup disk (which I have done). It then says to "Save the
> valid_no.reg and valid_ok.reg files that were included in the ZIP to
> your Startup Disk". There is a zip file on my startup disk but it
> does not include files of those names.

John
Mon May 29 14:19:40 CDT 2006

You probably chose the wrong security/password option in the BIOS. If
the BIOS password security is well configured there is no way that the
pc will relinquish after three password attempts then just allow the
computer to boot up. It's conceivable that you chose an option that
disallows unauthorized access to the BIOS but still allows the computer
to boot. Such an option would prevent users from making critical
changes to the computer hardware configuration yet allow them to use the
operating system. If you select the proper password option the pc
should not boot even if you try a thousand times!

John

MajorSetback@excite.com wrote:

> John John wrote:
>
>>Zee answered your first question, as for the second:
>>
>>
>>>2/ Can anyone tell me how I can now access BIOS?
>>
>>Give it the password that you protected it with!
>>
>
>
> I do not think I assigned it a password. I thought it would use the
> password I had for Windows but apparently that was a mistake. Is there
> some way I can get in and change it? When I start typing, it will not
> let me finish but puts an X and asks for the password again. After
> doing this 3 times, it goes to Windows. The opposite effect of what I
> had intended.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter.
>

MajorSetback
Mon May 29 15:20:43 CDT 2006


Mike M wrote:
> MajorSetback@excite.com <MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote:
>
> > I have seen my question posted before but have not seen any
> > satisfactory answers so far.
>
> Win Me was never intended to be a secure system. If that is your
> requirement then you should consider using either Win2K or better XP as
> both of these are designed for such use.

Would the XP home edition work?

Thanks,
Peter.

Noel
Mon May 29 15:36:59 CDT 2006


<MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote in message
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>
> Mike M wrote:
>> MajorSetback@excite.com <MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I have seen my question posted before but have not seen any
>> > satisfactory answers so far.
>>
>> Win Me was never intended to be a secure system. If that is your
>> requirement then you should consider using either Win2K or better XP as
>> both of these are designed for such use.
>
> Would the XP home edition work?
>

Yep - either Home or Pro versions are capable of preventing unauthorised
logons - one of the essential differences of the two, however, is that in
Pro, it is possible to encrypt your data so that it is (effectively)
impossible to read from another logon or alternate boot.
(just in case Mike has disappeared into the woodwork for the evening)

--
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Mike
Mon May 29 16:01:22 CDT 2006

> (just in case Mike has disappeared into the woodwork
> for the evening)

No, just watching New Tricks. <g>
--
Mike


Noel Paton <NoelDPspamless@crashfixpc.com> wrote:

> Yep - either Home or Pro versions are capable of preventing
> unauthorised logons - one of the essential differences of the two,
> however, is that in Pro, it is possible to encrypt your data so that
> it is (effectively) impossible to read from another logon or
> alternate boot. (just in case Mike has disappeared into the woodwork
> for the evening)

Noel
Mon May 29 16:11:50 CDT 2006

<Rincewind swears>
I meant to watch that tonight!
Oh, Well - it'll have to be the reruns.... I'll watch CSI instead! :)

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"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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>> (just in case Mike has disappeared into the woodwork
>> for the evening)
>
> No, just watching New Tricks. <g>
> --
> Mike
>
>

Mike
Mon May 29 16:30:13 CDT 2006

Noel Paton <NoelDPspamless@crashfixpc.com> wrote:

> <Rincewind swears>
> I meant to watch that tonight!
> Oh, Well - it'll have to be the reruns.... I'll watch CSI instead! :)

Want?
--
Mike

Noel
Mon May 29 19:13:53 CDT 2006


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> Noel Paton <NoelDPspamless@crashfixpc.com> wrote:
>
>> <Rincewind swears>
>> I meant to watch that tonight!
>> Oh, Well - it'll have to be the reruns.... I'll watch CSI instead! :)
>
> Want?


Nah - I'm not that fussed... I just fancy you-know-who :)


--
Noel Paton

Joan
Tue May 30 04:12:18 CDT 2006

<lol>
Joan


Noel Paton wrote:
> Nah - I'm not that fussed... I just fancy you-know-who :)

Heather
Tue May 30 11:12:32 CDT 2006


"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:Ob2SIc2gGHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Noel Paton <NoelDPspamless@crashfixpc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> <Rincewind swears>
>>> I meant to watch that tonight!
>>> Oh, Well - it'll have to be the reruns.... I'll watch CSI instead!
>>> :)
>>
>> Want?
>
>
> Nah - I'm not that fussed... I just fancy you-know-who :)

And the name is.........???? Or is it a TV character.
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton

Mike
Tue May 30 15:20:28 CDT 2006

Heather <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> And the name is.........???? Or is it a TV character.


I'm guessing that Noel is fantasising about
http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm0714985/
--
Mike

Heather
Tue May 30 15:29:38 CDT 2006

LOL!! No picture to look at.

Poor man......living in that tiny village in a remote part of the UK and
fantasizing about a faceless woman......sigh. We really must find him a
wife......ROFL!!

Heather
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> Heather <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> And the name is.........???? Or is it a TV character.
>
>
> I'm guessing that Noel is fantasising about
> http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm0714985/
> --
> Mike
>
>

Mike
Tue May 30 15:46:06 CDT 2006

Heather <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> LOL!! No picture to look at.
>
> Poor man......living in that tiny village in a remote part of the UK
> and fantasizing about a faceless woman......sigh. We really must
> find him a wife......ROFL!!

I thought I'd leave it to you to find the glamour shots. :-) Google
Images will get you started. For example you might find
http://www.eratosthenese.com/braithwaites/cast/redman_interview1.html
--
Mike

Noel
Tue May 30 15:49:17 CDT 2006

tattle-tale! :)


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"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> Heather <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> And the name is.........???? Or is it a TV character.
>
>
> I'm guessing that Noel is fantasising about
> http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm0714985/
> --
> Mike
>
>

Noel
Tue May 30 15:50:19 CDT 2006

NAH - BTDT...... OTOH.....

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"Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> LOL!! No picture to look at.
>
> Poor man......living in that tiny village in a remote part of the UK and
> fantasizing about a faceless woman......sigh. We really must find him a
> wife......ROFL!!
>

Mike
Tue May 30 15:53:55 CDT 2006

Noel Paton <NoelDPspamless@crashfixpc.com> wrote:

> tattle-tale! :)

LOL

I didn't say a thing! <vbg>
--
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Heather
Tue May 30 21:27:27 CDT 2006

If at first....succeed, etc. Seeing as you are now definitely on the
downward side of a half-century, perhaps you best be looking for a
companion in your old age.

ROFL.....Figgs

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> NAH - BTDT...... OTOH.....
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> NG's
> "Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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>> LOL!! No picture to look at.
>>
>> Poor man......living in that tiny village in a remote part of the UK
>> and fantasizing about a faceless woman......sigh. We really must
>> find him a wife......ROFL!!
>>
>

Heather
Tue May 30 21:25:52 CDT 2006


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> Heather <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> LOL!! No picture to look at.
>>
>> Poor man......living in that tiny village in a remote part of the UK
>> and fantasizing about a faceless woman......sigh. We really must
>> find him a wife......ROFL!!
>
> I thought I'd leave it to you to find the glamour shots. :-) Google
> Images will get you started. For example you might find
> http://www.eratosthenese.com/braithwaites/cast/redman_interview1.html
> --
> Mike

Ooohhhhh.....way too pretty for the Furball!! And she is 42?? Hmm, so
is Elayne. Perhaps he likes the mature young chicks, lol.

Mother

Noel
Wed May 31 01:18:03 CDT 2006

must....not.....kill......!!

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"Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> If at first....succeed, etc. Seeing as you are now definitely on the
> downward side of a half-century, perhaps you best be looking for a
> companion in your old age.
>
> ROFL.....Figgs
>

Heather
Wed May 31 13:10:29 CDT 2006

SNICKER!!

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> must....not.....kill......!!
>
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>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> NG's
> "Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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>> If at first....succeed, etc. Seeing as you are now definitely on the
>> downward side of a half-century, perhaps you best be looking for a
>> companion in your old age.
>>
>> ROFL.....Figgs
>>
>