Partition Magic

Is there a free version of PartitionMagic available?
I have tried some things, but without success.
Thanx.

Harry, old and moving along.

heirloom
Mon Sep 20 20:54:12 CDT 2004

Not unless you wish to attain "pirate" status, AFAIK.
Heirloom, old and no patch on my eye


"Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
news:uUmyvj3nEHA.3072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Is there a free version of PartitionMagic available?
> I have tried some things, but without success.
> Thanx.
>
> Harry, old and moving along.
>
>

Ron
Mon Sep 20 21:49:28 CDT 2004

"Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote:

>Is there a free version of PartitionMagic available?
>I have tried some things, but without success.
>Thanx.
>
> Harry, old and moving along.
>


Not a free version, no.

You can often find it priced quite cheaply on eBay, especially the
version or two prior to the current version.

Another option is BootIt Next Generation from www.bootiting.com It is
priced lower than Partition Magic, has pretty much the same
capabilities, and has a full functioning 30 day trial period.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

Webster72n
Mon Sep 20 22:26:19 CDT 2004


Don't need a patch on your eye, Heirloom.
Meanwhile I found what I was loking for:
"SwissKnifeV3" by 'CompuApps'.
Check it out and let us know, what you think.
Just don't be too hard on me when you come back.

Harry, also old and unpredictable.


"heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
news:eaPVH23nEHA.2052@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Not unless you wish to attain "pirate" status, AFAIK.
> Heirloom, old and no patch on my eye
>
>
> "Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
> news:uUmyvj3nEHA.3072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Is there a free version of PartitionMagic available?
> > I have tried some things, but without success.
> > Thanx.
> >
> > Harry, old and moving along.
> >
> >
>
>

Shane
Tue Sep 21 00:00:39 CDT 2004

Harry,

Trouble with this is to really check it out one has to partition their drive
with it :-)

As for Ron's recommendation, BING has an additional advantage in that it
can - assuming the burning software - generate a bootable cd. However, BING
is considerably more complex than PM and must be run from DOS.

PM - unless run from another OS in a multiboot system - will do the work in
DOS.

The advantage of running from another OS, ie from Windows, is speed. Roughly
I'd say PM is 4 - 10 times faster run from Windows. This is partly why it is
much preferred to partition before installing Windows, or if too late for
that, before installing much additional software or indeed any large amounts
of data - the data will probably be moved, which can take several hours in
DOS. The other reason for doing this before installing, is there is always
a - admittedly, slight - danger of data loss, notably if there's a power
outage during the operation, but simply cancelling once the operation has
begun can waste the partition.

Anyway, my main point is, the operation *will only* run from DOS and you
don't need the full PM program for that. Just the Rescue Disks will suffice.
In fact, just the 2nd floppy is required, as the first is simply a boot
disk. While the 1st boots Caldera DOS, the 2nd floppy will still run PM if
you booted with a standard MS-DOS boot disk.


Shane


"Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
news:u10P0q4nEHA.1160@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
> Don't need a patch on your eye, Heirloom.
> Meanwhile I found what I was loking for:
> "SwissKnifeV3" by 'CompuApps'.
> Check it out and let us know, what you think.
> Just don't be too hard on me when you come back.
>
> Harry, also old and unpredictable.
>
>
> "heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
> news:eaPVH23nEHA.2052@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Not unless you wish to attain "pirate" status, AFAIK.
> > Heirloom, old and no patch on my eye
> >
> >
> > "Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
> > news:uUmyvj3nEHA.3072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Is there a free version of PartitionMagic available?
> > > I have tried some things, but without success.
> > > Thanx.
> > >
> > > Harry, old and moving along.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Webster72n
Tue Sep 21 16:21:47 CDT 2004


Shane:
The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before installing
the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late, since just about all
my programs are installed.
Then why do they tell you partitioning without data loss?
Reading that claim motivated me to persue this avenue.
The way you and Ron describe it, provokes me to loose interest. I am not too
familiar with the dos commands.
Would it be advantageous for me to learn some of them?
Thanks for the clarification, Shane.

Harry, old and must rest (after claning furnace).


"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2r9r21F17k4toU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Harry,
>
> Trouble with this is to really check it out one has to partition their
drive
> with it :-)
>
> As for Ron's recommendation, BING has an additional advantage in that it
> can - assuming the burning software - generate a bootable cd. However,
BING
> is considerably more complex than PM and must be run from DOS.
>
> PM - unless run from another OS in a multiboot system - will do the work
in
> DOS.
>
> The advantage of running from another OS, ie from Windows, is speed.
Roughly
> I'd say PM is 4 - 10 times faster run from Windows. This is partly why it
is
> much preferred to partition before installing Windows, or if too late for
> that, before installing much additional software or indeed any large
amounts
> of data - the data will probably be moved, which can take several hours in
> DOS. The other reason for doing this before installing, is there is always
> a - admittedly, slight - danger of data loss, notably if there's a power
> outage during the operation, but simply cancelling once the operation has
> begun can waste the partition.
>
> Anyway, my main point is, the operation *will only* run from DOS and you
> don't need the full PM program for that. Just the Rescue Disks will
suffice.
> In fact, just the 2nd floppy is required, as the first is simply a boot
> disk. While the 1st boots Caldera DOS, the 2nd floppy will still run PM if
> you booted with a standard MS-DOS boot disk.
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
> news:u10P0q4nEHA.1160@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >
> > Don't need a patch on your eye, Heirloom.
> > Meanwhile I found what I was loking for:
> > "SwissKnifeV3" by 'CompuApps'.
> > Check it out and let us know, what you think.
> > Just don't be too hard on me when you come back.
> >
> > Harry, also old and unpredictable.
> >
> >
> > "heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
> > news:eaPVH23nEHA.2052@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Not unless you wish to attain "pirate" status, AFAIK.
> > > Heirloom, old and no patch on my eye
> > >
> > >
> > > "Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uUmyvj3nEHA.3072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > Is there a free version of PartitionMagic available?
> > > > I have tried some things, but without success.
> > > > Thanx.
> > > >
> > > > Harry, old and moving along.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Shane
Tue Sep 21 19:37:09 CDT 2004

Harry,

> The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before installing
> the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late, since just about all
> my programs are installed.

It's just the ideal situation. The more disk space is in use, the longer the
process will take. Before installation there's effectively none in use and
partitioning is almost instant. After OS installation but before much else
the process will take longer. But Win ME doesn't take much space by itself -
c. 300M - so it's not too painful.

Once you're getting to, say, the 1G + mark, it's likely to get
frustratingly-long. But it will depend on CPU/RAM/HD speed too. This kind of
operation is notably faster on the 2.6GHz DDR RAM laptop I have here than on
the 850 MHz SDRAM desktop.

As for data loss, I have partitioned many, many times and only ever had one
failure - when I cancelled on realising an operation would take many hours
and lost the contents of one partition (but most of which was duplicated
elsewhere and none of which was irreplaceable).

But, if you have an uninterruptible power supply or live in an area where
you're confident there won't be any outages.........well,
personally-speaking, I'd set the operation in motion and go do something
else and come back later to see if it's finished.

> Then why do they tell you partitioning without data loss?

That's probably how it will be. But zero data loss is not something that can
be guaranteed. Power cuts, lightning strikes, hard drive failure,
particularly-nasty viruses.

The important thing to do is back up irreplaceable data - burn it to cdr or
whatever. Backups are essential, whatever operation you run. If you have
data you can't afford to (or would really prefer not to) lose. But this is
why you're considering partitioning in the first place isn't it?

> Reading that claim motivated me to persue this avenue.
> The way you and Ron describe it, provokes me to loose interest. I am not
too
> familiar with the dos commands.

You don't need a knowledge of DOS commands to run either PM from the rescue
disk set or BING. They boot to the program and it's a point-and-click
interface from there. Your mouse - assuming it's PS2 - will work. While if
you were using the Windows version of Partition Magic you'd execute it from
within Windows and it would reboot and run in DOS with no need for user
input.

> Would it be advantageous for me to learn some of them?

Practically there's little point. *If* and when you need to learn any, your
best bet would probably be to ask, eg here, at that time.


Shane

Joan
Wed Sep 22 04:59:51 CDT 2004

Harry, Shane has given you a good explanation about it and I'll add that I
have done it without any problems.

On my old machine I had WinME and quite a few programs installed, so I
installed PM7 and then created a new partition so that I could install XP.
I took note of all the advise I received here from the likes of Shane,
Mike and Noel and went ahead, needless to say it went without a hitch and
as I am no expert in any sense of the word when it comes to computers I
was happy. I also did work with it when I gave the machine to my daughter
and took XP of the machine and gave the space back to WinME which was a
preinstalled version.

I know nothing about DOS and wouldn't know where to start but you
shouldn't have any problems, if I can do it I'm sure you will be able to.
Joan

Webster72n wrote:
> Shane:
> The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before
> installing the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late,
> since just about all my programs are installed.
> snip>

Webster72n
Wed Sep 22 09:22:47 CDT 2004


That is good to know, Joan and I will go ahead with it.
Last night I had some problems with "disconnect" in writing a reply post to
Shane.
I will have to retrieve and send it again.
Thank you for your input.

Harry, old and still upbeat.


"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:uQ8eqrIoEHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Harry, Shane has given you a good explanation about it and I'll add that I
> have done it without any problems.
>
> On my old machine I had WinME and quite a few programs installed, so I
> installed PM7 and then created a new partition so that I could install XP.
> I took note of all the advise I received here from the likes of Shane,
> Mike and Noel and went ahead, needless to say it went without a hitch and
> as I am no expert in any sense of the word when it comes to computers I
> was happy. I also did work with it when I gave the machine to my daughter
> and took XP of the machine and gave the space back to WinME which was a
> preinstalled version.
>
> I know nothing about DOS and wouldn't know where to start but you
> shouldn't have any problems, if I can do it I'm sure you will be able to.
> Joan
>
> Webster72n wrote:
> > Shane:
> > The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before
> > installing the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late,
> > since just about all my programs are installed.
> > snip>
>
>

Webster72n
Wed Sep 22 09:50:53 CDT 2004


Don't know what really happened last night, Shane, but here is the saved
post reply:

*How nicely explained, Shane.
Now I will go ahead and do as planned.
I have two backup programs in place and two partitioning programs as well..
Taking my time, I'll have a chance to choose and take my pick..
After all the trouble I went through before, my machine works beautifully.
The only problem left since my last "fix" is my Iomega 100MB Zip Drive. It
was rendered unusable and the new one I ordered over the internet from
CompuVest doesn't seem to work either and I am communicating with them at
this point..
One more thing before I leave, Shane:
You mentioned interruption problems. The only somewhat predictable one I
have, is being 'disconnected".
It's just happening as I am writing this post.
I am supposed to check my password and then try again,
with error number 691, I believe.
It occurrs right out of the blue.
I wonder whether this might have anything to do with My MSIMN error?
For now I am forced to save this message.*

Harry, old and trying to cope.


"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2rc05eFmuhaiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Harry,
>
> > The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before
installing
> > the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late, since just about
all
> > my programs are installed.
>
> It's just the ideal situation. The more disk space is in use, the longer
the
> process will take. Before installation there's effectively none in use and
> partitioning is almost instant. After OS installation but before much else
> the process will take longer. But Win ME doesn't take much space by
itself -
> c. 300M - so it's not too painful.
>
> Once you're getting to, say, the 1G + mark, it's likely to get
> frustratingly-long. But it will depend on CPU/RAM/HD speed too. This kind
of
> operation is notably faster on the 2.6GHz DDR RAM laptop I have here than
on
> the 850 MHz SDRAM desktop.
>
> As for data loss, I have partitioned many, many times and only ever had
one
> failure - when I cancelled on realising an operation would take many hours
> and lost the contents of one partition (but most of which was duplicated
> elsewhere and none of which was irreplaceable).
>
> But, if you have an uninterruptible power supply or live in an area where
> you're confident there won't be any outages.........well,
> personally-speaking, I'd set the operation in motion and go do something
> else and come back later to see if it's finished.
>
> > Then why do they tell you partitioning without data loss?
>
> That's probably how it will be. But zero data loss is not something that
can
> be guaranteed. Power cuts, lightning strikes, hard drive failure,
> particularly-nasty viruses.
>
> The important thing to do is back up irreplaceable data - burn it to cdr
or
> whatever. Backups are essential, whatever operation you run. If you have
> data you can't afford to (or would really prefer not to) lose. But this is
> why you're considering partitioning in the first place isn't it?
>
> > Reading that claim motivated me to persue this avenue.
> > The way you and Ron describe it, provokes me to loose interest. I am not
> too
> > familiar with the dos commands.
>
> You don't need a knowledge of DOS commands to run either PM from the
rescue
> disk set or BING. They boot to the program and it's a point-and-click
> interface from there. Your mouse - assuming it's PS2 - will work. While if
> you were using the Windows version of Partition Magic you'd execute it
from
> within Windows and it would reboot and run in DOS with no need for user
> input.
>
> > Would it be advantageous for me to learn some of them?
>
> Practically there's little point. *If* and when you need to learn any,
your
> best bet would probably be to ask, eg here, at that time.
>
>
> Shane
>
>

Shane
Wed Sep 22 12:26:55 CDT 2004

Hi Joan!

D'you know, Boots in the Broadway didn't have my Fructis Garnier! I had to
get L'Oreal Elvive!

But then, you know, I'm worth it ;-)

Anyone know when I get my free Jennifer Aniston?


Shane


"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:uQ8eqrIoEHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Harry, Shane has given you a good explanation about it and I'll add that I
> have done it without any problems.
>
> On my old machine I had WinME and quite a few programs installed, so I
> installed PM7 and then created a new partition so that I could install XP.
> I took note of all the advise I received here from the likes of Shane,
> Mike and Noel and went ahead, needless to say it went without a hitch and
> as I am no expert in any sense of the word when it comes to computers I
> was happy. I also did work with it when I gave the machine to my daughter
> and took XP of the machine and gave the space back to WinME which was a
> preinstalled version.
>
> I know nothing about DOS and wouldn't know where to start but you
> shouldn't have any problems, if I can do it I'm sure you will be able to.
> Joan
>
> Webster72n wrote:
> > Shane:
> > The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before
> > installing the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late,
> > since just about all my programs are installed.
> > snip>
>
>

Joan
Wed Sep 22 15:23:56 CDT 2004

<lol> Of course you are, as for Jennifer I think you may be out of luck
there <g>
Joan

Shane wrote:
> Hi Joan!
>
> D'you know, Boots in the Broadway didn't have my Fructis Garnier! I
> had to get L'Oreal Elvive!
>
> But then, you know, I'm worth it ;-)
>
> Anyone know when I get my free Jennifer Aniston?
>
>
> Shane

Shane
Wed Sep 22 17:30:15 CDT 2004

Mm. Her taste *is* a bit indiscriminate, isn't it.

You're sweet enough though!



Shane


"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:ubnMZIOoEHA.2612@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> <lol> Of course you are, as for Jennifer I think you may be out of luck
> there <g>
> Joan
>
> Shane wrote:
> > Hi Joan!
> >
> > D'you know, Boots in the Broadway didn't have my Fructis Garnier! I
> > had to get L'Oreal Elvive!
> >
> > But then, you know, I'm worth it ;-)
> >
> > Anyone know when I get my free Jennifer Aniston?
> >
> >
> > Shane
>
>

Shane
Wed Sep 22 17:27:48 CDT 2004

Disconnected from the Internet, Harry? That a recent development? Many ISPs
will disconnect after a fixed period, or after a fixed period of inactivity.
What is the period here?

Also, how do you have it set in Internet Options | Connections | Settings |
Properties | Dialling? If checked, uncheck the *Enable idle disconnection*
and *Disconnect if connection may not be needed* and if on dial-up, remember
to manually disconnect via r-clicking the double monitor tray icon.

btw, if you use Partition Magic, see what it reports your Zip drive as. I
had problems with the two and ended up disconnecting the zip.


Shane

"Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
news:OF$a$NLoEHA.132@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> Don't know what really happened last night, Shane, but here is the saved
> post reply:
>
> *How nicely explained, Shane.
> Now I will go ahead and do as planned.
> I have two backup programs in place and two partitioning programs as
well..
> Taking my time, I'll have a chance to choose and take my pick..
> After all the trouble I went through before, my machine works beautifully.
> The only problem left since my last "fix" is my Iomega 100MB Zip Drive. It
> was rendered unusable and the new one I ordered over the internet from
> CompuVest doesn't seem to work either and I am communicating with them at
> this point..
> One more thing before I leave, Shane:
> You mentioned interruption problems. The only somewhat predictable one I
> have, is being 'disconnected".
> It's just happening as I am writing this post.
> I am supposed to check my password and then try again,
> with error number 691, I believe.
> It occurrs right out of the blue.
> I wonder whether this might have anything to do with My MSIMN error?
> For now I am forced to save this message.*
>
> Harry, old and trying to cope.
>
>
> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2rc05eFmuhaiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Harry,
> >
> > > The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before
> installing
> > > the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late, since just about
> all
> > > my programs are installed.
> >
> > It's just the ideal situation. The more disk space is in use, the longer
> the
> > process will take. Before installation there's effectively none in use
and
> > partitioning is almost instant. After OS installation but before much
else
> > the process will take longer. But Win ME doesn't take much space by
> itself -
> > c. 300M - so it's not too painful.
> >
> > Once you're getting to, say, the 1G + mark, it's likely to get
> > frustratingly-long. But it will depend on CPU/RAM/HD speed too. This
kind
> of
> > operation is notably faster on the 2.6GHz DDR RAM laptop I have here
than
> on
> > the 850 MHz SDRAM desktop.
> >
> > As for data loss, I have partitioned many, many times and only ever had
> one
> > failure - when I cancelled on realising an operation would take many
hours
> > and lost the contents of one partition (but most of which was duplicated
> > elsewhere and none of which was irreplaceable).
> >
> > But, if you have an uninterruptible power supply or live in an area
where
> > you're confident there won't be any outages.........well,
> > personally-speaking, I'd set the operation in motion and go do something
> > else and come back later to see if it's finished.
> >
> > > Then why do they tell you partitioning without data loss?
> >
> > That's probably how it will be. But zero data loss is not something that
> can
> > be guaranteed. Power cuts, lightning strikes, hard drive failure,
> > particularly-nasty viruses.
> >
> > The important thing to do is back up irreplaceable data - burn it to cdr
> or
> > whatever. Backups are essential, whatever operation you run. If you have
> > data you can't afford to (or would really prefer not to) lose. But this
is
> > why you're considering partitioning in the first place isn't it?
> >
> > > Reading that claim motivated me to persue this avenue.
> > > The way you and Ron describe it, provokes me to loose interest. I am
not
> > too
> > > familiar with the dos commands.
> >
> > You don't need a knowledge of DOS commands to run either PM from the
> rescue
> > disk set or BING. They boot to the program and it's a point-and-click
> > interface from there. Your mouse - assuming it's PS2 - will work. While
if
> > you were using the Windows version of Partition Magic you'd execute it
> from
> > within Windows and it would reboot and run in DOS with no need for user
> > input.
> >
> > > Would it be advantageous for me to learn some of them?
> >
> > Practically there's little point. *If* and when you need to learn any,
> your
> > best bet would probably be to ask, eg here, at that time.
> >
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
>
>

Webster72n
Wed Sep 22 23:50:38 CDT 2004


Shane:

The settings you mention were allright but somehow some proxy settings were
enabled and I disabled them, because they are supposed to be. Hopefully that
will take care of the problem.
Where the zip drive is concerned, it must be a faulty one.
I didn't have any trouble with my first one before I ruined it. They are
giving me a hard time at the moment, but that's going to change.
Will keep you posted on that issue.
What about the MS MEdia Player GUID?
Is it okey to tinker with it?
Thanks for being so patient, Shane.

Harry, skipping the old this time.


"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2recu6F17i8hpU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Disconnected from the Internet, Harry? That a recent development? Many
ISPs
> will disconnect after a fixed period, or after a fixed period of
inactivity.
> What is the period here?
>
> Also, how do you have it set in Internet Options | Connections | Settings
|
> Properties | Dialling? If checked, uncheck the *Enable idle disconnection*
> and *Disconnect if connection may not be needed* and if on dial-up,
remember
> to manually disconnect via r-clicking the double monitor tray icon.
>
> btw, if you use Partition Magic, see what it reports your Zip drive as. I
> had problems with the two and ended up disconnecting the zip.
>
>
> Shane
>
> "Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
> news:OF$a$NLoEHA.132@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >
> > Don't know what really happened last night, Shane, but here is the saved
> > post reply:
> >
> > *How nicely explained, Shane.
> > Now I will go ahead and do as planned.
> > I have two backup programs in place and two partitioning programs as
> well..
> > Taking my time, I'll have a chance to choose and take my pick..
> > After all the trouble I went through before, my machine works
beautifully.
> > The only problem left since my last "fix" is my Iomega 100MB Zip Drive.
It
> > was rendered unusable and the new one I ordered over the internet from
> > CompuVest doesn't seem to work either and I am communicating with them
at
> > this point..
> > One more thing before I leave, Shane:
> > You mentioned interruption problems. The only somewhat predictable one I
> > have, is being 'disconnected".
> > It's just happening as I am writing this post.
> > I am supposed to check my password and then try again,
> > with error number 691, I believe.
> > It occurrs right out of the blue.
> > I wonder whether this might have anything to do with My MSIMN error?
> > For now I am forced to save this message.*
> >
> > Harry, old and trying to cope.
> >
> >
> > "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2rc05eFmuhaiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Harry,
> > >
> > > > The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before
> > installing
> > > > the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late, since just
about
> > all
> > > > my programs are installed.
> > >
> > > It's just the ideal situation. The more disk space is in use, the
longer
> > the
> > > process will take. Before installation there's effectively none in use
> and
> > > partitioning is almost instant. After OS installation but before much
> else
> > > the process will take longer. But Win ME doesn't take much space by
> > itself -
> > > c. 300M - so it's not too painful.
> > >
> > > Once you're getting to, say, the 1G + mark, it's likely to get
> > > frustratingly-long. But it will depend on CPU/RAM/HD speed too. This
> kind
> > of
> > > operation is notably faster on the 2.6GHz DDR RAM laptop I have here
> than
> > on
> > > the 850 MHz SDRAM desktop.
> > >
> > > As for data loss, I have partitioned many, many times and only ever
had
> > one
> > > failure - when I cancelled on realising an operation would take many
> hours
> > > and lost the contents of one partition (but most of which was
duplicated
> > > elsewhere and none of which was irreplaceable).
> > >
> > > But, if you have an uninterruptible power supply or live in an area
> where
> > > you're confident there won't be any outages.........well,
> > > personally-speaking, I'd set the operation in motion and go do
something
> > > else and come back later to see if it's finished.
> > >
> > > > Then why do they tell you partitioning without data loss?
> > >
> > > That's probably how it will be. But zero data loss is not something
that
> > can
> > > be guaranteed. Power cuts, lightning strikes, hard drive failure,
> > > particularly-nasty viruses.
> > >
> > > The important thing to do is back up irreplaceable data - burn it to
cdr
> > or
> > > whatever. Backups are essential, whatever operation you run. If you
have
> > > data you can't afford to (or would really prefer not to) lose. But
this
> is
> > > why you're considering partitioning in the first place isn't it?
> > >
> > > > Reading that claim motivated me to persue this avenue.
> > > > The way you and Ron describe it, provokes me to loose interest. I am
> not
> > > too
> > > > familiar with the dos commands.
> > >
> > > You don't need a knowledge of DOS commands to run either PM from the
> > rescue
> > > disk set or BING. They boot to the program and it's a point-and-click
> > > interface from there. Your mouse - assuming it's PS2 - will work.
While
> if
> > > you were using the Windows version of Partition Magic you'd execute it
> > from
> > > within Windows and it would reboot and run in DOS with no need for
user
> > > input.
> > >
> > > > Would it be advantageous for me to learn some of them?
> > >
> > > Practically there's little point. *If* and when you need to learn any,
> > your
> > > best bet would probably be to ask, eg here, at that time.
> > >
> > >
> > > Shane
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Shane
Thu Sep 23 00:25:05 CDT 2004

No problem *tinkering* with the WMP GUID, Harry. Fix away!


Shane


"Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
news:O$B$PjSoEHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> Shane:
>
> The settings you mention were allright but somehow some proxy settings
were
> enabled and I disabled them, because they are supposed to be. Hopefully
that
> will take care of the problem.
> Where the zip drive is concerned, it must be a faulty one.
> I didn't have any trouble with my first one before I ruined it. They are
> giving me a hard time at the moment, but that's going to change.
> Will keep you posted on that issue.
> What about the MS MEdia Player GUID?
> Is it okey to tinker with it?
> Thanks for being so patient, Shane.
>
> Harry, skipping the old this time.
>
>
> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2recu6F17i8hpU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Disconnected from the Internet, Harry? That a recent development? Many
> ISPs
> > will disconnect after a fixed period, or after a fixed period of
> inactivity.
> > What is the period here?
> >
> > Also, how do you have it set in Internet Options | Connections |
Settings
> |
> > Properties | Dialling? If checked, uncheck the *Enable idle
disconnection*
> > and *Disconnect if connection may not be needed* and if on dial-up,
> remember
> > to manually disconnect via r-clicking the double monitor tray icon.
> >
> > btw, if you use Partition Magic, see what it reports your Zip drive as.
I
> > had problems with the two and ended up disconnecting the zip.
> >
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > "Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
> > news:OF$a$NLoEHA.132@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > Don't know what really happened last night, Shane, but here is the
saved
> > > post reply:
> > >
> > > *How nicely explained, Shane.
> > > Now I will go ahead and do as planned.
> > > I have two backup programs in place and two partitioning programs as
> > well..
> > > Taking my time, I'll have a chance to choose and take my pick..
> > > After all the trouble I went through before, my machine works
> beautifully.
> > > The only problem left since my last "fix" is my Iomega 100MB Zip
Drive.
> It
> > > was rendered unusable and the new one I ordered over the internet from
> > > CompuVest doesn't seem to work either and I am communicating with them
> at
> > > this point..
> > > One more thing before I leave, Shane:
> > > You mentioned interruption problems. The only somewhat predictable one
I
> > > have, is being 'disconnected".
> > > It's just happening as I am writing this post.
> > > I am supposed to check my password and then try again,
> > > with error number 691, I believe.
> > > It occurrs right out of the blue.
> > > I wonder whether this might have anything to do with My MSIMN error?
> > > For now I am forced to save this message.*
> > >
> > > Harry, old and trying to cope.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2rc05eFmuhaiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Harry,
> > > >
> > > > > The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before
> > > installing
> > > > > the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late, since just
> about
> > > all
> > > > > my programs are installed.
> > > >
> > > > It's just the ideal situation. The more disk space is in use, the
> longer
> > > the
> > > > process will take. Before installation there's effectively none in
use
> > and
> > > > partitioning is almost instant. After OS installation but before
much
> > else
> > > > the process will take longer. But Win ME doesn't take much space by
> > > itself -
> > > > c. 300M - so it's not too painful.
> > > >
> > > > Once you're getting to, say, the 1G + mark, it's likely to get
> > > > frustratingly-long. But it will depend on CPU/RAM/HD speed too. This
> > kind
> > > of
> > > > operation is notably faster on the 2.6GHz DDR RAM laptop I have here
> > than
> > > on
> > > > the 850 MHz SDRAM desktop.
> > > >
> > > > As for data loss, I have partitioned many, many times and only ever
> had
> > > one
> > > > failure - when I cancelled on realising an operation would take many
> > hours
> > > > and lost the contents of one partition (but most of which was
> duplicated
> > > > elsewhere and none of which was irreplaceable).
> > > >
> > > > But, if you have an uninterruptible power supply or live in an area
> > where
> > > > you're confident there won't be any outages.........well,
> > > > personally-speaking, I'd set the operation in motion and go do
> something
> > > > else and come back later to see if it's finished.
> > > >
> > > > > Then why do they tell you partitioning without data loss?
> > > >
> > > > That's probably how it will be. But zero data loss is not something
> that
> > > can
> > > > be guaranteed. Power cuts, lightning strikes, hard drive failure,
> > > > particularly-nasty viruses.
> > > >
> > > > The important thing to do is back up irreplaceable data - burn it to
> cdr
> > > or
> > > > whatever. Backups are essential, whatever operation you run. If you
> have
> > > > data you can't afford to (or would really prefer not to) lose. But
> this
> > is
> > > > why you're considering partitioning in the first place isn't it?
> > > >
> > > > > Reading that claim motivated me to persue this avenue.
> > > > > The way you and Ron describe it, provokes me to loose interest. I
am
> > not
> > > > too
> > > > > familiar with the dos commands.
> > > >
> > > > You don't need a knowledge of DOS commands to run either PM from the
> > > rescue
> > > > disk set or BING. They boot to the program and it's a
point-and-click
> > > > interface from there. Your mouse - assuming it's PS2 - will work.
> While
> > if
> > > > you were using the Windows version of Partition Magic you'd execute
it
> > > from
> > > > within Windows and it would reboot and run in DOS with no need for
> user
> > > > input.
> > > >
> > > > > Would it be advantageous for me to learn some of them?
> > > >
> > > > Practically there's little point. *If* and when you need to learn
any,
> > > your
> > > > best bet would probably be to ask, eg here, at that time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Shane
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Joan
Thu Sep 23 04:01:02 CDT 2004

Why thank you kind sir <g>
Joan

Shane wrote:
> Mm. Her taste *is* a bit indiscriminate, isn't it.
>
> You're sweet enough though!
>
>
>
> Shane
>

Shane
Thu Sep 23 12:41:43 CDT 2004

;-)

Shane


"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:OOd6cvUoEHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Why thank you kind sir <g>
> Joan
>
> Shane wrote:
> > Mm. Her taste *is* a bit indiscriminate, isn't it.
> >
> > You're sweet enough though!
> >
> >
> >
> > Shane
> >
>
>

Webster72n
Thu Sep 23 13:10:16 CDT 2004


Thanks, Shane, that's what I like to hear.
CompuVest just told me to get an RMA number and return the drive, but I
still wind up paying for shipping
and handling.
That's the second time I got stung buying over the internet,
first the modem and this time the zip drive.
No more of that for me.
This weekend there will be a computer show nearby
and I will get one there.
Thanks again, Shane.

Harry, old and must carry on.


"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2rf582F19mhfmU1@uni-berlin.de...
> No problem *tinkering* with the WMP GUID, Harry. Fix away!
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
> news:O$B$PjSoEHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >
> > Shane:
> >
> > The settings you mention were allright but somehow some proxy settings
> were
> > enabled and I disabled them, because they are supposed to be. Hopefully
> that
> > will take care of the problem.
> > Where the zip drive is concerned, it must be a faulty one.
> > I didn't have any trouble with my first one before I ruined it. They are
> > giving me a hard time at the moment, but that's going to change.
> > Will keep you posted on that issue.
> > What about the MS MEdia Player GUID?
> > Is it okey to tinker with it?
> > Thanks for being so patient, Shane.
> >
> > Harry, skipping the old this time.
> >
> >
> > "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2recu6F17i8hpU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Disconnected from the Internet, Harry? That a recent development? Many
> > ISPs
> > > will disconnect after a fixed period, or after a fixed period of
> > inactivity.
> > > What is the period here?
> > >
> > > Also, how do you have it set in Internet Options | Connections |
> Settings
> > |
> > > Properties | Dialling? If checked, uncheck the *Enable idle
> disconnection*
> > > and *Disconnect if connection may not be needed* and if on dial-up,
> > remember
> > > to manually disconnect via r-clicking the double monitor tray icon.
> > >
> > > btw, if you use Partition Magic, see what it reports your Zip drive
as.
> I
> > > had problems with the two and ended up disconnecting the zip.
> > >
> > >
> > > Shane
> > >
> > > "Webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
> > > news:OF$a$NLoEHA.132@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > >
> > > > Don't know what really happened last night, Shane, but here is the
> saved
> > > > post reply:
> > > >
> > > > *How nicely explained, Shane.
> > > > Now I will go ahead and do as planned.
> > > > I have two backup programs in place and two partitioning programs as
> > > well..
> > > > Taking my time, I'll have a chance to choose and take my pick..
> > > > After all the trouble I went through before, my machine works
> > beautifully.
> > > > The only problem left since my last "fix" is my Iomega 100MB Zip
> Drive.
> > It
> > > > was rendered unusable and the new one I ordered over the internet
from
> > > > CompuVest doesn't seem to work either and I am communicating with
them
> > at
> > > > this point..
> > > > One more thing before I leave, Shane:
> > > > You mentioned interruption problems. The only somewhat predictable
one
> I
> > > > have, is being 'disconnected".
> > > > It's just happening as I am writing this post.
> > > > I am supposed to check my password and then try again,
> > > > with error number 691, I believe.
> > > > It occurrs right out of the blue.
> > > > I wonder whether this might have anything to do with My MSIMN error?
> > > > For now I am forced to save this message.*
> > > >
> > > > Harry, old and trying to cope.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:2rc05eFmuhaiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > Harry,
> > > > >
> > > > > > The way I understand it, Partitioning should take place before
> > > > installing
> > > > > > the OS. That means, in my case it's already too late, since just
> > about
> > > > all
> > > > > > my programs are installed.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's just the ideal situation. The more disk space is in use, the
> > longer
> > > > the
> > > > > process will take. Before installation there's effectively none in
> use
> > > and
> > > > > partitioning is almost instant. After OS installation but before
> much
> > > else
> > > > > the process will take longer. But Win ME doesn't take much space
by
> > > > itself -
> > > > > c. 300M - so it's not too painful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once you're getting to, say, the 1G + mark, it's likely to get
> > > > > frustratingly-long. But it will depend on CPU/RAM/HD speed too.
This
> > > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > operation is notably faster on the 2.6GHz DDR RAM laptop I have
here
> > > than
> > > > on
> > > > > the 850 MHz SDRAM desktop.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for data loss, I have partitioned many, many times and only
ever
> > had
> > > > one
> > > > > failure - when I cancelled on realising an operation would take
many
> > > hours
> > > > > and lost the contents of one partition (but most of which was
> > duplicated
> > > > > elsewhere and none of which was irreplaceable).
> > > > >
> > > > > But, if you have an uninterruptible power supply or live in an
area
> > > where
> > > > > you're confident there won't be any outages.........well,
> > > > > personally-speaking, I'd set the operation in motion and go do
> > something
> > > > > else and come back later to see if it's finished.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Then why do they tell you partitioning without data loss?
> > > > >
> > > > > That's probably how it will be. But zero data loss is not
something
> > that
> > > > can
> > > > > be guaranteed. Power cuts, lightning strikes, hard drive failure,
> > > > > particularly-nasty viruses.
> > > > >
> > > > > The important thing to do is back up irreplaceable data - burn it
to
> > cdr
> > > > or
> > > > > whatever. Backups are essential, whatever operation you run. If
you
> > have
> > > > > data you can't afford to (or would really prefer not to) lose. But
> > this
> > > is
> > > > > why you're considering partitioning in the first place isn't it?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Reading that claim motivated me to persue this avenue.
> > > > > > The way you and Ron describe it, provokes me to loose interest.
I
> am
> > > not
> > > > > too
> > > > > > familiar with the dos commands.
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't need a knowledge of DOS commands to run either PM from
the
> > > > rescue
> > > > > disk set or BING. They boot to the program and it's a
> point-and-click
> > > > > interface from there. Your mouse - assuming it's PS2 - will work.
> > While
> > > if
> > > > > you were using the Windows version of Partition Magic you'd
execute
> it
> > > > from
> > > > > within Windows and it would reboot and run in DOS with no need for
> > user
> > > > > input.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Would it be advantageous for me to learn some of them?
> > > > >
> > > > > Practically there's little point. *If* and when you need to learn
> any,
> > > > your
> > > > > best bet would probably be to ask, eg here, at that time.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Shane
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>