Daylight Savings Time

I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few months
back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the procedure of
resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a different
time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper time
zone. For some reason, it's not catching.

Any ideas?

Mike
Sun Mar 09 11:34:58 PDT 2008

Have you rebooted following making the change to the registry using
TZEdit?
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:

> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
> months back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
> procedure of resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of
> selecting a different time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then
> reselecting the proper time zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>
> Any ideas?

Dapper
Sun Mar 09 16:14:44 PDT 2008

As a matter of fact, yes Mike, I have rebooted several times since making
the change and I have just noticed that it doesn't matter what time zone I
designate, the clock remains at Eastern Standard time.

Does that provide a clue?

Dan
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:OC14KRhgIHA.5260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Have you rebooted following making the change to the registry using
> TZEdit?
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:
>
>> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
>> months back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
>> procedure of resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of
>> selecting a different time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then
>> reselecting the proper time zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>

Mike
Sun Mar 09 16:31:51 PDT 2008

All I can suggest is that you try rolling your system back using system
restore to a checkpoint created prior to your first use of TZEdit and try
again.

> Does that provide a clue?

Not really! <vbg> Thankfully our government, despite what are I feel its
many failings, haven't played around with the dates for what we call
"summer time" so it's not a problem I've had to deal with very often.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:

> As a matter of fact, yes Mike, I have rebooted several times since
> making the change and I have just noticed that it doesn't matter what
> time zone I designate, the clock remains at Eastern Standard time.
>
> Does that provide a clue?

Dapper
Sun Mar 09 17:25:21 PDT 2008

Thanks Mike

I restored to a point last month, reinstalled and edited TZedit but to no
avail. The initial change in Control Panel /Date- Time, I selected Pacific
Time but the clock did not change. I closed, reopened and correctly selected
Eastern Time Zone but again no change to the time.

I'll play with it over the next day but it's looking like I can't change the
time on my computer. Would this be a sign that the battery is going?

Dan
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:erLkD3jgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> All I can suggest is that you try rolling your system back using system
> restore to a checkpoint created prior to your first use of TZEdit and try
> again.
>
>> Does that provide a clue?
>
> Not really! <vbg> Thankfully our government, despite what are I feel its
> many failings, haven't played around with the dates for what we call
> "summer time" so it's not a problem I've had to deal with very often.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:
>
>> As a matter of fact, yes Mike, I have rebooted several times since
>> making the change and I have just noticed that it doesn't matter what
>> time zone I designate, the clock remains at Eastern Standard time.
>>
>> Does that provide a clue?
>

Mike
Sun Mar 09 17:52:18 PDT 2008

The battery, or rather its state, should only come in to play when the
computer is powered down and disconnected from the mains at which point
the battery is used to power the motherboard clock and CMOS memory.

Were you able to make changes to your clock last year, or was it the one
before, when the US first changed the dates? Which version of TZEdit are
you using? In the past I've used the copy downloadable that formed part
of the Windows 98 Resource Kit [KB247024 "Tools Included with the
Microsoft Windows 98 Resource Kit"
(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=247024] which can be downloaded from
http://www.softshape.com/download/tzedit.zip. Extract the three files
from the zip to a folder on your desktop. then run tzedit and select your
time zone from the drop down box. Hit edit and it will show the offset
from GMT and the current start and stop dates for DST. Edit to match the
new ones for your location and click OK to save. Reboot.

A later version of TZEdit can be downloaded from Microsoft
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/a/58a208b7-7dc7-4bc7-8357-28e29cdac52f/tzedit.exe
but for some reason this version doesn't always seem to work with Win Me.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:

> Thanks Mike
>
> I restored to a point last month, reinstalled and edited TZedit but
> to no avail. The initial change in Control Panel /Date- Time, I
> selected Pacific Time but the clock did not change. I closed,
> reopened and correctly selected Eastern Time Zone but again no change
> to the time.
> I'll play with it over the next day but it's looking like I can't
> change the time on my computer. Would this be a sign that the battery
> is going?

webster72n
Sun Mar 09 19:56:22 PDT 2008


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:O3VjAkkgIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The battery, or rather its state, should only come in to play when the
> computer is powered down and disconnected from the mains at which point
> the battery is used to power the motherboard clock and CMOS memory.
>
> Were you able to make changes to your clock last year, or was it the one
> before, when the US first changed the dates? Which version of TZEdit are
> you using? In the past I've used the copy downloadable that formed part
> of the Windows 98 Resource Kit [KB247024 "Tools Included with the
> Microsoft Windows 98 Resource Kit"
> (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=247024] which can be downloaded from
> http://www.softshape.com/download/tzedit.zip.

I downloaded this one, Mike, because my existing version was probably the
one you mention below and it didn't work for me either. Therefore I deleted
everything belonging to it, in order to try your alternative version.
Thanks. <H>.

> Extract the three files
> from the zip to a folder on your desktop. then run tzedit and select your
> time zone from the drop down box. Hit edit and it will show the offset
> from GMT and the current start and stop dates for DST. Edit to match the
> new ones for your location and click OK to save. Reboot.
>
> A later version of TZEdit can be downloaded from Microsoft
>
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/a/58a208b7-7dc7-4bc7-8357-28e29cdac52f/tzedit.exe
> but for some reason this version doesn't always seem to work with Win Me.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Mike
> >
> > I restored to a point last month, reinstalled and edited TZedit but
> > to no avail. The initial change in Control Panel /Date- Time, I
> > selected Pacific Time but the clock did not change. I closed,
> > reopened and correctly selected Eastern Time Zone but again no change
> > to the time.
> > I'll play with it over the next day but it's looking like I can't
> > change the time on my computer. Would this be a sign that the battery
> > is going?
>

webster72n
Sun Mar 09 20:07:58 PDT 2008

I think "DST" should be outlawed.
It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction (hogwash).
How about it?

Harry.


"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
months
> back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the procedure
of
> resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a different
> time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
time
> zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>

Heirloom
Sun Mar 09 21:06:49 PDT 2008

Well, I don't see where it 'saves' any daylight.....we still have the exact
same amount we would have had without the time change. And, uh, Harry.....I
don't think Ben Franklin played golf.
Heirloom, old and it ought to be 'daylight shifting
time'

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O%23XPdulgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I think "DST" should be outlawed.
> It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
> summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction (hogwash).
> How about it?
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
> months
>> back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the procedure
> of
>> resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a different
>> time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
> time
>> zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>

webster72n
Sun Mar 09 21:38:58 PDT 2008


"Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
news:%237Su3NmgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Well, I don't see where it 'saves' any daylight.....we still have the
exact
> same amount we would have had without the time change. And, uh,
Harry.....I
> don't think Ben Franklin played golf.

Don't matter, H, he tried to please them and just because his name is behind
it, doesn't mean it's beneficial, which I don't think it is. There are
states and places, where it isn't practiced. Daylight shouldn't be
"shifted", all it does is to upset one's bio-rythm. Think again!........
<H>.

> Heirloom, old and it ought to be 'daylight shifting
> time'
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O%23XPdulgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >I think "DST" should be outlawed.
> > It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
> > summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
(hogwash).
> > How about it?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
> > months
> >> back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
procedure
> > of
> >> resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
different
> >> time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
> > time
> >> zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Dapper
Mon Mar 10 05:43:04 PDT 2008

If it's not the battery then it might be the version of TZedit. I'm using
version 1.0.1.0 That might be the way to go Mike. I'll download another
version and see if it works.

It was only last year that we were forced to handle this and I don't recall
having any problem at all.

Dan
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:O3VjAkkgIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The battery, or rather its state, should only come in to play when the
> computer is powered down and disconnected from the mains at which point
> the battery is used to power the motherboard clock and CMOS memory.
>
> Were you able to make changes to your clock last year, or was it the one
> before, when the US first changed the dates? Which version of TZEdit are
> you using? In the past I've used the copy downloadable that formed part
> of the Windows 98 Resource Kit [KB247024 "Tools Included with the
> Microsoft Windows 98 Resource Kit"
> (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=247024] which can be downloaded from
> http://www.softshape.com/download/tzedit.zip. Extract the three files
> from the zip to a folder on your desktop. then run tzedit and select your
> time zone from the drop down box. Hit edit and it will show the offset
> from GMT and the current start and stop dates for DST. Edit to match the
> new ones for your location and click OK to save. Reboot.
>
> A later version of TZEdit can be downloaded from Microsoft
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/a/58a208b7-7dc7-4bc7-8357-28e29cdac52f/tzedit.exe
> but for some reason this version doesn't always seem to work with Win Me.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mike
>>
>> I restored to a point last month, reinstalled and edited TZedit but
>> to no avail. The initial change in Control Panel /Date- Time, I
>> selected Pacific Time but the clock did not change. I closed,
>> reopened and correctly selected Eastern Time Zone but again no change
>> to the time.
>> I'll play with it over the next day but it's looking like I can't
>> change the time on my computer. Would this be a sign that the battery
>> is going?
>

Heirloom
Mon Mar 10 09:52:59 PDT 2008

Sheesh, Harry!.....get another cup of coffee and a valium. I didn't say I
agreed with it!....I don't like it either. There are some benefits to it,
as well as drawbacks.....like having to change all my d*mn clocks! Ben only
came up with the idea, the modern day method wan't employed until 1907, I
forget that cat's name....not important. You could always move to whereever
it is in Arizona that doesn't adhere to DST, or any of the other places in
the U.S. Better yet, you could retire and not pay any attention to it, like
me......for half the year all my clocks are right, the other half I don't
give a crap.
Heirloom, old and it's great to be retired

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OfZNUhmgIHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
> news:%237Su3NmgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Well, I don't see where it 'saves' any daylight.....we still have the
> exact
>> same amount we would have had without the time change. And, uh,
> Harry.....I
>> don't think Ben Franklin played golf.
>
> Don't matter, H, he tried to please them and just because his name is
> behind
> it, doesn't mean it's beneficial, which I don't think it is. There are
> states and places, where it isn't practiced. Daylight shouldn't be
> "shifted", all it does is to upset one's bio-rythm. Think again!........
> <H>.
>
>> Heirloom, old and it ought to be 'daylight shifting
>> time'
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O%23XPdulgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >I think "DST" should be outlawed.
>> > It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
>> > summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
> (hogwash).
>> > How about it?
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
>> > months
>> >> back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
> procedure
>> > of
>> >> resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
> different
>> >> time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
>> > time
>> >> zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

webster72n
Mon Mar 10 10:08:42 PDT 2008

My dear Heirloom,
there isn't any valium nor any other medication near me and no overdose on
caffeine either. Complacency is hard to overcome, I know and most of us seem
to be stuck in it, no matter what the subject.
It's good to hear you are loving life also.
Keep it up...

Harry, who is not quite as complacent (lol).


"Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
news:ONyB$5sgIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Sheesh, Harry!.....get another cup of coffee and a valium. I didn't say I
> agreed with it!....I don't like it either. There are some benefits to it,
> as well as drawbacks.....like having to change all my d*mn clocks! Ben
only
> came up with the idea, the modern day method wan't employed until 1907, I
> forget that cat's name....not important. You could always move to
whereever
> it is in Arizona that doesn't adhere to DST, or any of the other places in
> the U.S. Better yet, you could retire and not pay any attention to it,
like
> me......for half the year all my clocks are right, the other half I don't
> give a crap.
> Heirloom, old and it's great to be retired
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OfZNUhmgIHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
> > news:%237Su3NmgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> Well, I don't see where it 'saves' any daylight.....we still have the
> > exact
> >> same amount we would have had without the time change. And, uh,
> > Harry.....I
> >> don't think Ben Franklin played golf.
> >
> > Don't matter, H, he tried to please them and just because his name is
> > behind
> > it, doesn't mean it's beneficial, which I don't think it is. There are
> > states and places, where it isn't practiced. Daylight shouldn't be
> > "shifted", all it does is to upset one's bio-rythm. Think again!........
> > <H>.
> >
> >> Heirloom, old and it ought to be 'daylight shifting
> >> time'
> >>
> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:O%23XPdulgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >I think "DST" should be outlawed.
> >> > It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in
the
> >> > summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
> > (hogwash).
> >> > How about it?
> >> >
> >> > Harry.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a
few
> >> > months
> >> >> back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
> > procedure
> >> > of
> >> >> resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
> > different
> >> >> time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the
proper
> >> > time
> >> >> zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Mart
Mon Mar 10 10:35:29 PDT 2008

> Heirloom, old and it's great to be retired

Quite so, HL! - and its just gone half past winter, nearly twenty-five to
spring here in the UK.

Mart


"Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
news:ONyB$5sgIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Sheesh, Harry!.....get another cup of coffee and a valium. I didn't say I
> agreed with it!....I don't like it either. There are some benefits to it,
> as well as drawbacks.....like having to change all my d*mn clocks! Ben
> only came up with the idea, the modern day method wan't employed until
> 1907, I forget that cat's name....not important. You could always move to
> whereever it is in Arizona that doesn't adhere to DST, or any of the other
> places in the U.S. Better yet, you could retire and not pay any attention
> to it, like me......for half the year all my clocks are right, the other
> half I don't give a crap.
> Heirloom, old and it's great to be retired
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OfZNUhmgIHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
>> news:%237Su3NmgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Well, I don't see where it 'saves' any daylight.....we still have the
>> exact
>>> same amount we would have had without the time change. And, uh,
>> Harry.....I
>>> don't think Ben Franklin played golf.
>>
>> Don't matter, H, he tried to please them and just because his name is
>> behind
>> it, doesn't mean it's beneficial, which I don't think it is. There are
>> states and places, where it isn't practiced. Daylight shouldn't be
>> "shifted", all it does is to upset one's bio-rythm. Think again!........
>> <H>.
>>
>>> Heirloom, old and it ought to be 'daylight shifting
>>> time'
>>>
>>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O%23XPdulgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> >I think "DST" should be outlawed.
>>> > It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
>>> > summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
>> (hogwash).
>>> > How about it?
>>> >
>>> > Harry.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> >> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
>>> > months
>>> >> back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
>> procedure
>>> > of
>>> >> resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
>> different
>>> >> time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the
>>> >> proper
>>> > time
>>> >> zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any ideas?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Joan
Mon Mar 10 14:57:07 PDT 2008

I don't know about Spring at the moment Mart, we're getting battered here
(please no fishy jokes) at the moment and I don't like it :-(
Joan

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:OWXdiUtgIHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Heirloom, old and it's great to be retired
>
> Quite so, HL! - and its just gone half past winter, nearly twenty-five to
> spring here in the UK.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
> news:ONyB$5sgIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Sheesh, Harry!.....get another cup of coffee and a valium. I didn't say
>> I agreed with it!....I don't like it either. There are some benefits to
>> it, as well as drawbacks.....like having to change all my d*mn clocks!
>> Ben only came up with the idea, the modern day method wan't employed
>> until 1907, I forget that cat's name....not important. You could always
>> move to whereever it is in Arizona that doesn't adhere to DST, or any of
>> the other places in the U.S. Better yet, you could retire and not pay
>> any attention to it, like me......for half the year all my clocks are
>> right, the other half I don't give a crap.
>> Heirloom, old and it's great to be retired
>>

John
Mon Mar 10 16:20:58 PDT 2008

I don't play golf, but what's wrong with that? I like DST, I like the
longer daylight hours during the summer time. I like having extra time
to do yard work or ride my bike or just have a cold drink and loaf
around. I enjoy that extra hour of daylight after work hours.

John

webster72n wrote:

> I think "DST" should be outlawed.
> It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
> summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction (hogwash).
> How about it?
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>>I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
>
> months
>
>>back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the procedure
>
> of
>
>>resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a different
>>time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
>
> time
>
>>zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>
>

Heather
Mon Mar 10 16:23:56 PDT 2008

Just had another 35 cm. of snow......and with only 35 feet of frontage,
taken up mostly by a double driveway, you should see the height of the
snowbanks!! I took a picture earlier, but Ron was doing a *rude thing*
so can't post it, lol.

Besides, I will get one tomorrow when it is sunny.

XX Figgs
"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:e%23K4AnvgIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I don't know about Spring at the moment Mart, we're getting battered
>here (please no fishy jokes) at the moment and I don't like it :-(
> Joan
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:OWXdiUtgIHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Heirloom, old and it's great to be retired
>>
>> Quite so, HL! - and its just gone half past winter, nearly
>> twenty-five to spring here in the UK.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
>> news:ONyB$5sgIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Sheesh, Harry!.....get another cup of coffee and a valium. I didn't
>>> say I agreed with it!....I don't like it either. There are some
>>> benefits to it, as well as drawbacks.....like having to change all
>>> my d*mn clocks! Ben only came up with the idea, the modern day
>>> method wan't employed until 1907, I forget that cat's name....not
>>> important. You could always move to whereever it is in Arizona that
>>> doesn't adhere to DST, or any of the other places in the U.S.
>>> Better yet, you could retire and not pay any attention to it, like
>>> me......for half the year all my clocks are right, the other half I
>>> don't give a crap.
>>> Heirloom, old and it's great to be retired
>>>
>
>

webster72n
Mon Mar 10 20:22:00 PDT 2008


I think it should be put up for a vote, John, don't you think?
See who gets the most. <H>.

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:OlfmrVwgIHA.5824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I don't play golf, but what's wrong with that? I like DST, I like the
> longer daylight hours during the summer time. I like having extra time
> to do yard work or ride my bike or just have a cold drink and loaf
> around. I enjoy that extra hour of daylight after work hours.
>
> John
>
> webster72n wrote:
>
> > I think "DST" should be outlawed.
> > It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
> > summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
(hogwash).
> > How about it?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
> >
> > months
> >
> >>back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the procedure
> >
> > of
> >
> >>resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
different
> >>time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
> >
> > time
> >
> >>zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >

Heather
Mon Mar 10 20:38:05 PDT 2008

No reason to vote, Webster......most of us prefer DST. LOL!!

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23u%23g8aygIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> I think it should be put up for a vote, John, don't you think?
> See who gets the most. <H>.
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:OlfmrVwgIHA.5824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I don't play golf, but what's wrong with that? I like DST, I like
>> the
>> longer daylight hours during the summer time. I like having extra
>> time
>> to do yard work or ride my bike or just have a cold drink and loaf
>> around. I enjoy that extra hour of daylight after work hours.
>>
>> John
>>
>> webster72n wrote:
>>
>> > I think "DST" should be outlawed.
>> > It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in
>> > the
>> > summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
> (hogwash).
>> > How about it?
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> >>I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a
>> >>few
>> >
>> > months
>> >
>> >>back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
>> >>procedure
>> >
>> > of
>> >
>> >>resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
> different
>> >>time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the
>> >>proper
>> >
>> > time
>> >
>> >>zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>> >>
>> >>Any ideas?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

John
Mon Mar 10 20:47:37 PDT 2008

No, I don't think so, I think they should keep it as it is now. What
does it bother you that DST exists or is in use where you live? What is
it that is so bad about it? Do you get up at 4:00 AM and go to bed at
6:00 PM? I like longer daylight hours after work or after supper, it
brings people out and it's fun!

John

webster72n wrote:

> I think it should be put up for a vote, John, don't you think?
> See who gets the most. <H>.
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:OlfmrVwgIHA.5824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>>I don't play golf, but what's wrong with that? I like DST, I like the
>>longer daylight hours during the summer time. I like having extra time
>>to do yard work or ride my bike or just have a cold drink and loaf
>>around. I enjoy that extra hour of daylight after work hours.
>>
>>John
>>
>>webster72n wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think "DST" should be outlawed.
>>>It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
>>>summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
>
> (hogwash).
>
>>>How about it?
>>>
>>> Harry.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
>>>news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
>>>
>>>months
>>>
>>>
>>>>back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the procedure
>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
>
> different
>
>>>>time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>
>>>>zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

webster72n
Mon Mar 10 21:01:20 PDT 2008

I could give you plenty of reason against it and already mentioned one very
important one, but why is my different view not tolerated by you???
Doesn't sound very democratic, does it? <H>.


"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:erPtoqygIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> No, I don't think so, I think they should keep it as it is now. What
> does it bother you that DST exists or is in use where you live? What is
> it that is so bad about it? Do you get up at 4:00 AM and go to bed at
> 6:00 PM? I like longer daylight hours after work or after supper, it
> brings people out and it's fun!
>
> John
>
> webster72n wrote:
>
> > I think it should be put up for a vote, John, don't you think?
> > See who gets the most. <H>.
> >
> > "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> > news:OlfmrVwgIHA.5824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>I don't play golf, but what's wrong with that? I like DST, I like the
> >>longer daylight hours during the summer time. I like having extra time
> >>to do yard work or ride my bike or just have a cold drink and loaf
> >>around. I enjoy that extra hour of daylight after work hours.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I think "DST" should be outlawed.
> >>>It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
> >>>summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
> >
> > (hogwash).
> >
> >>>How about it?
> >>>
> >>> Harry.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
> >>>
> >>>months
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
procedure
> >>>
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
> >
> > different
> >
> >>>>time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
> >>>
> >>>time
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >

webster72n
Mon Mar 10 21:03:53 PDT 2008


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%234oHXlygIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> No reason to vote, Webster......most of us prefer DST. LOL!!

It figures...

>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23u%23g8aygIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >
> > I think it should be put up for a vote, John, don't you think?
> > See who gets the most. <H>.
> >
> > "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> > news:OlfmrVwgIHA.5824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> I don't play golf, but what's wrong with that? I like DST, I like
> >> the
> >> longer daylight hours during the summer time. I like having extra
> >> time
> >> to do yard work or ride my bike or just have a cold drink and loaf
> >> around. I enjoy that extra hour of daylight after work hours.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >> > I think "DST" should be outlawed.
> >> > It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in
> >> > the
> >> > summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
> > (hogwash).
> >> > How about it?
> >> >
> >> > Harry.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> >>I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a
> >> >>few
> >> >
> >> > months
> >> >
> >> >>back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
> >> >>procedure
> >> >
> >> > of
> >> >
> >> >>resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
> > different
> >> >>time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the
> >> >>proper
> >> >
> >> > time
> >> >
> >> >>zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
> >> >>
> >> >>Any ideas?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>

John
Mon Mar 10 21:20:30 PDT 2008

What do you mean "not tolerated by me"?? I don't give a hoot what you
think or what your views are on DST! It doesn't bother me one bit,
think as you please, I don't care! If you want an election over it then
go bug your elected officials and ask them to change it or pass a vote
on it. And as for your "very important" reasons why we should not use
DST I haven't seen any of them posted here.

John

webster72n wrote:

> I could give you plenty of reason against it and already mentioned one very
> important one, but why is my different view not tolerated by you???
> Doesn't sound very democratic, does it? <H>.
>
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:erPtoqygIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>>No, I don't think so, I think they should keep it as it is now. What
>>does it bother you that DST exists or is in use where you live? What is
>>it that is so bad about it? Do you get up at 4:00 AM and go to bed at
>>6:00 PM? I like longer daylight hours after work or after supper, it
>>brings people out and it's fun!
>>
>>John
>>
>>webster72n wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think it should be put up for a vote, John, don't you think?
>>>See who gets the most. <H>.
>>>
>>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:OlfmrVwgIHA.5824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't play golf, but what's wrong with that? I like DST, I like the
>>>>longer daylight hours during the summer time. I like having extra time
>>>>to do yard work or ride my bike or just have a cold drink and loaf
>>>>around. I enjoy that extra hour of daylight after work hours.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I think "DST" should be outlawed.
>>>>>It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
>>>>>summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
>>>
>>>(hogwash).
>>>
>>>
>>>>>How about it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
>>>>>
>>>>>months
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
>
> procedure
>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
>>>
>>>different
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
>>>>>
>>>>>time
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
>

Heirloom
Mon Mar 10 21:54:35 PDT 2008

If I had a choice it would be the same as yours, JohnJohn. Leave the longer
evenings alone!
Heirloom, old and hate changing clocks even twice a year

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:erPtoqygIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> No, I don't think so, I think they should keep it as it is now. What does
> it bother you that DST exists or is in use where you live? What is it
> that is so bad about it? Do you get up at 4:00 AM and go to bed at 6:00
> PM? I like longer daylight hours after work or after supper, it brings
> people out and it's fun!
>
> John
>
> webster72n wrote:
>
>> I think it should be put up for a vote, John, don't you think?
>> See who gets the most. <H>.
>>
>> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:OlfmrVwgIHA.5824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>I don't play golf, but what's wrong with that? I like DST, I like the
>>>longer daylight hours during the summer time. I like having extra time
>>>to do yard work or ride my bike or just have a cold drink and loaf
>>>around. I enjoy that extra hour of daylight after work hours.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think "DST" should be outlawed.
>>>>It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in the
>>>>summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
>>
>> (hogwash).
>>
>>>>How about it?
>>>>
>>>> Harry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
>>>>
>>>>months
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
>>>>>procedure
>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
>>
>> different
>>
>>>>>time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
>>>>
>>>>time
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

Ben
Mon Mar 10 23:01:55 PDT 2008

"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message =
news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few =
months=20
> back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the =
procedure of=20
> resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a =
different=20
> time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper =
time=20
> zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
> Any ideas?=20

If you are trying to confirm proper operation, set the date to March 9, =
2008
and the time to 1:59 AM, wait until the clock reads "2:00 AM" and see if =

Windows resets the time to 3:00 AM.

Ben

O
Tue Mar 11 03:11:17 PDT 2008

Hello:

I seem to recall reading about what Ben is saying. Even after the changes
are made to the registry time zone entries, the changes only "catch" when
the date and time crosses either the spring or fall DST boundaries. So you
need to follow the procedure as outlined by Ben to test proper operation of
your time zone registry entries.

O.J.

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in message
news:%23USkr1zgIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
> months
> back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the procedure
> of
> resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a different
> time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
> time
> zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
> Any ideas?

If you are trying to confirm proper operation, set the date to March 9, 2008
and the time to 1:59 AM, wait until the clock reads "2:00 AM" and see if
Windows resets the time to 3:00 AM.

Ben

webster72n
Tue Mar 11 08:24:48 PDT 2008


"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:%23f6$A9ygIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> What do you mean "not tolerated by me"?? I don't give a hoot what you
> think or what your views are on DST! It doesn't bother me one bit,
> think as you please, I don't care! If you want an election over it then
> go bug your elected officials and ask them to change it or pass a vote
> on it. And as for your "very important" reasons why we should not use
> DST I haven't seen any of them posted here.

Look again....

>
> John
>
> webster72n wrote:
>
> > I could give you plenty of reason against it and already mentioned one
very
> > important one, but why is my different view not tolerated by you???
> > Doesn't sound very democratic, does it? <H>.
> >
> >
> > "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> > news:erPtoqygIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>No, I don't think so, I think they should keep it as it is now. What
> >>does it bother you that DST exists or is in use where you live? What is
> >>it that is so bad about it? Do you get up at 4:00 AM and go to bed at
> >>6:00 PM? I like longer daylight hours after work or after supper, it
> >>brings people out and it's fun!
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I think it should be put up for a vote, John, don't you think?
> >>>See who gets the most. <H>.
> >>>
> >>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> >>>news:OlfmrVwgIHA.5824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I don't play golf, but what's wrong with that? I like DST, I like the
> >>>>longer daylight hours during the summer time. I like having extra
time
> >>>>to do yard work or ride my bike or just have a cold drink and loaf
> >>>>around. I enjoy that extra hour of daylight after work hours.
> >>>>
> >>>>John
> >>>>
> >>>>webster72n wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I think "DST" should be outlawed.
> >>>>>It's sole purpose is to allow the golfers an extra hour of play in
the
> >>>>>summer time, that's all, other reasons for it are plain fiction
> >>>
> >>>(hogwash).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>How about it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Harry.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a
few
> >>>>>
> >>>>>months
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the
> >
> > procedure
> >
> >>>>>of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a
> >>>
> >>>different
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the
proper
> >>>>>
> >>>>>time
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Any ideas?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >

John
Tue Mar 11 09:26:01 PDT 2008

webster72n wrote:

>> "John John" wrote
>>
>>What do you mean "not tolerated by me"?? I don't give a hoot what you
>>think or what your views are on DST! It doesn't bother me one bit,
>>think as you please, I don't care! If you want an election over it then
>>go bug your elected officials and ask them to change it or pass a vote
>>on it. And as for your "very important" reasons why we should not use
>>DST I haven't seen any of them posted here.
>
>
> Look again....

I see nothing that you posted as "very important" reasons not to use
DST, all I see is bitching that you don't want or don't like having
people engaging in an extra hour of sporting activities or enjoying
other pleasant pursuits during that extra hour of daylight after a long
day at work!

John

Dapper
Tue Mar 11 09:31:11 PDT 2008

This may be a perfect example of a hijacked thread!!!

The problem is that the time wouldn't change; it appeared to be still
operating under Eastern Standard Time, instead of Eastern Daylight Savings
Time. However, I just tried your suggestion and indeed the change does take
effect as scheduled.

It's obvious I have a problem with the date/time program. If I go and change
the time zone from Eastern to Pacific, the time doesn't change. I don't
think it's a big issue because there should be no reason to change times
except for DST.

Thanks for the feedback Ben. At least it confirmed that TXedit was not the
issue.

Dan
"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in message
news:%23USkr1zgIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:uQBpvKhgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I had completely forgot about DST when I reinstalled Windows ME a few
> months
> back. Today I downloaded a copy of TZEDIT and went through the procedure
> of
> resetting DST, including the last 2 instructions of selecting a different
> time zone in DATE/TIME (Control Panel) and then reselecting the proper
> time
> zone. For some reason, it's not catching.
> Any ideas?

If you are trying to confirm proper operation, set the date to March 9, 2008
and the time to 1:59 AM, wait until the clock reads "2:00 AM" and see if
Windows resets the time to 3:00 AM.

Ben

Heather
Tue Mar 11 09:52:48 PDT 2008


"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:OIWBYS5gIHA.5780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> webster72n wrote:
>
>>> "John John" wrote
>>> What do you mean "not tolerated by me"?? I don't give a hoot what
>>> you
>>>think or what your views are on DST! It doesn't bother me one bit,
>>>think as you please, I don't care! If you want an election over it
>>>then
>>>go bug your elected officials and ask them to change it or pass a
>>>vote
>>>on it. And as for your "very important" reasons why we should not
>>>use
>>>DST I haven't seen any of them posted here.
>>
>>
>> Look again....
>
> I see nothing that you posted as "very important" reasons not to use
> DST, all I see is bitching that you don't want or don't like having
> people engaging in an extra hour of sporting activities or enjoying
> other pleasant pursuits during that extra hour of daylight after a
> long day at work!
>
Hi John.....ignore him. He lives in a *parallel universe* and most of
the time makes absolutely no sense at all. I often wonder how he made
it to the age he claims to be......drifting aimlessly and totally
unaware of real life problems or joys.

Nanook of the North

webster72n
Tue Mar 11 10:31:22 PDT 2008


"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:OIWBYS5gIHA.5780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> webster72n wrote:
>
> >> "John John" wrote
> >>
> >>What do you mean "not tolerated by me"?? I don't give a hoot what you
> >>think or what your views are on DST! It doesn't bother me one bit,
> >>think as you please, I don't care! If you want an election over it then
> >>go bug your elected officials and ask them to change it or pass a vote
> >>on it. And as for your "very important" reasons why we should not use
> >>DST I haven't seen any of them posted here.
> >
> >
> > Look again....
>
> I see nothing that you posted as "very important" reasons not to use
> DST, all I see is bitching that you don't want or don't like having
> people engaging in an extra hour of sporting activities or enjoying
> other pleasant pursuits during that extra hour of daylight after a long
> day at work!

What a 'bull' and I didn't do any 'bitching', that suits you much better.
If you like it, fine, but that doesn't mean I also have to.
I said 'one reason and there are others', but as far as I am concerned,
we can leave it at that, yielding any other suggestions. <H>.

>
> John
>

John
Tue Mar 11 10:54:16 PDT 2008

Webster72n wrote:

> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:OIWBYS5gIHA.5780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>>webster72n wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>"John John" wrote
>>>>
>>>>What do you mean "not tolerated by me"?? I don't give a hoot what you
>>>>think or what your views are on DST! It doesn't bother me one bit,
>>>>think as you please, I don't care! If you want an election over it then
>>>>go bug your elected officials and ask them to change it or pass a vote
>>>>on it. And as for your "very important" reasons why we should not use
>>>>DST I haven't seen any of them posted here.
>>>
>>>
>>>Look again....
>>
>>I see nothing that you posted as "very important" reasons not to use
>>DST, all I see is bitching that you don't want or don't like having
>>people engaging in an extra hour of sporting activities or enjoying
>>other pleasant pursuits during that extra hour of daylight after a long
>>day at work!
>
>
> What a 'bull' and I didn't do any 'bitching', that suits you much better.
> If you like it, fine, but that doesn't mean I also have to.
> I said 'one reason and there are others', but as far as I am concerned,
> we can leave it at that, yielding any other suggestions. <H>.

Well this is what you said:

"I think "DST" should be outlawed. It's sole purpose is to allow the
golfers an extra hour of play in the summer time, that's all, other
reasons for it are plain fiction (hogwash)."

That certainly sounds like bitching and sour grapes to me! It sounds
like you feel that people having fun physical activities is a bad thing!
Maybe instead of enjoying outdoor fun after supper people should just
sit on their fat fannies!


Then your apparently "very important" reason:

"...all it does is to upset one's bio-rythm".

Well gee, aren't you retired? What the heck does it matter what the
time on the clock reads? You can go to bed or get up at whatever time
you want so I can't see why *your* bio-rythm should qualify as a "very
important" reason to abandon DST. Maybe you should buy very heavy light
impenetrable curtains and draw them all shut tight an hour early and
leave the outdoor fun for others!

John

Heirloom
Tue Mar 11 14:19:23 PDT 2008

Norman, shouldn't that be "socializing securityists?".......or however one
would spell that non-exixtent word.
Heirloom, old and I resemble that

"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
news:ts4iyg8ae5f5.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:31:11 -0400, Dapper Dan wrote:
>
>> This may be a perfect example of a hijacked thread!!!
>
> Happens a lot in this particular group. Bunch of socializing socialists
> hang
> out here.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Shine, bright morning light,
> ~now in the air the spring is coming.
> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
> ~singing down the hills and valleys.

Vincent
Tue Mar 11 14:24:36 PDT 2008

N. Miller wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:31:11 -0400, Dapper Dan wrote:
>
>> This may be a perfect example of a hijacked thread!!!
>
> Happens a lot in this particular group. Bunch of socializing socialists hang
> out here.

Are you included in that group? Or where exactly on the "scale" do you fit?

Heather
Tue Mar 11 15:23:20 PDT 2008


"Vincent" <Nothere@notthere.com> wrote in message
news:fr6tap$482$1@aioe.org...
> N. Miller wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:31:11 -0400, Dapper Dan wrote:
>>
>>> This may be a perfect example of a hijacked thread!!!
>>
>> Happens a lot in this particular group. Bunch of socializing
>> socialists hang out here.
>
> Are you included in that group? Or where exactly on the "scale" do
> you fit?

He is NOT included in our social group, which is why he is so snarky!!
On the scale of 1 to 10?? Minus 20. (G)

Ben
Wed Mar 12 09:15:23 PDT 2008

"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message =
news:OwsGUV5gIHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> This may be a perfect example of a hijacked thread!!!
> The problem is that the time wouldn't change; it appeared to be still=20
> operating under Eastern Standard Time, instead of Eastern Daylight =
Savings=20
> Time. However, I just tried your suggestion and indeed the change does =
take=20
> effect as scheduled.
> It's obvious I have a problem with the date/time program. If I go and =
change=20
> the time zone from Eastern to Pacific, the time doesn't change. I =
don't=20
> think it's a big issue because there should be no reason to change =
times=20
> except for DST.
<snip>

On my Windows ME system, the clock does not change when switching
time zones. Also, when changes are made using Tzedit, the clock is not
immediately affected. The change takes place on the date and time
specified by the new settings.

Ben

Dapper
Wed Mar 12 10:34:11 PDT 2008

That's interesting Ben because the only thing I can compare it around here
is an XP desktop and changing time zones has an immediate impact.

I'm delighted that you checked in this week. Otherwise I would have thought
that something was wrong with my system.

Thanks for your feedback.

Dan
"Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in message
news:ePUTJxFhIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:OwsGUV5gIHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> This may be a perfect example of a hijacked thread!!!
> The problem is that the time wouldn't change; it appeared to be still
> operating under Eastern Standard Time, instead of Eastern Daylight Savings
> Time. However, I just tried your suggestion and indeed the change does
> take
> effect as scheduled.
> It's obvious I have a problem with the date/time program. If I go and
> change
> the time zone from Eastern to Pacific, the time doesn't change. I don't
> think it's a big issue because there should be no reason to change times
> except for DST.
<snip>

On my Windows ME system, the clock does not change when switching
time zones. Also, when changes are made using Tzedit, the clock is not
immediately affected. The change takes place on the date and time
specified by the new settings.

Ben

webster72n
Wed Mar 12 10:53:17 PDT 2008


"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:%23CDtLdGhIHA.6032@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> That's interesting Ben because the only thing I can compare it around
here
> is an XP desktop and changing time zones has an immediate impact.
>
> I'm delighted that you checked in this week. Otherwise I would have
thought
> that something was wrong with my system.
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Dan
> "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in message
> news:ePUTJxFhIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> news:OwsGUV5gIHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > This may be a perfect example of a hijacked thread!!!
> > The problem is that the time wouldn't change; it appeared to be still
> > operating under Eastern Standard Time, instead of Eastern Daylight
Savings
> > Time. However, I just tried your suggestion and indeed the change does
> > take
> > effect as scheduled.
> > It's obvious I have a problem with the date/time program. If I go and
> > change
> > the time zone from Eastern to Pacific, the time doesn't change. I don't
> > think it's a big issue because there should be no reason to change times
> > except for DST.
> <snip>
>
> On my Windows ME system, the clock does not change when switching
> time zones. Also, when changes are made using Tzedit, the clock is not
> immediately affected. The change takes place on the date and time
> specified by the new settings.

I am at a point where I manually change to the correct time via the official
US-time:
http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java
The shortcut is residing on my desktop, allowing me to check anytime I
please and, while doing so, to correct the time, if need be. Anyone's
choice. <H>.

>
> Ben
>
>

Heather
Wed Mar 12 11:11:33 PDT 2008


"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I am at a point where I manually change to the correct time via the
> official US-time:
> http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java
> The shortcut is residing on my desktop, allowing me to check anytime I
> please and, while doing so, to correct the time, if need be. Anyone's
> choice. <H>.

Yeah, but that is AMERICAN time....not Canadian.

da Blonde
>

webster72n
Wed Mar 12 15:17:51 PDT 2008


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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