The Color 'Red' is missing

If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to turn.

Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:

In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with all
colors present.
This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish.
Otherwise no changes.
It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
Or is the cause somewhere else?
If it can be fixed, please let me know.

Harry.

Mart
Fri Jul 27 21:20:37 CDT 2007

Harry, please expand :-

> In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
> missing,

Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using the
Properties/Settings utility window?

Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are using
your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red 'sporadically
changes' under all circumstances?

If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due to a
failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any
symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable ends
are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't you just
been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently??

Bed time!

Mart


"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to turn.
>
> Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
>
> In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
> missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with all
> colors present.
> This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish.
> Otherwise no changes.
> It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
> Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
> Or is the cause somewhere else?
> If it can be fixed, please let me know.
>
> Harry.
>
>

webster72n
Fri Jul 27 21:44:37 CDT 2007


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Harry, please expand :-
>
> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
> > missing,
>
> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using the
> Properties/Settings utility window?

I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, with the
color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or should
I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently from my
color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my
machinery'.

>
> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are
using
> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red 'sporadically
> changes' under all circumstances?
>
> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due to a
> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any
> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable ends
> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't you
just
> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently??

Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'.
I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working properly'.
For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a way out.

>
> Bed time!

Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~

>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to turn.
> >
> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
> >
> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with
all
> > colors present.
> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish.
> > Otherwise no changes.
> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
>
>

Mart
Sat Jul 28 03:17:43 CDT 2007

OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then you're
back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :-

>> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm
>> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms
>> of dry joints)

Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor?
Have you tried substituting your monitor?

>> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the
>> VGA cable ends are secured correctly)

Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors?
Can you try a spare VGA cable?

>> or a failing/loose Video Card.

You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm still
not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: gotta
say.. so long ME)

Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry?

From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with your
monitor being the favourite.

Mart



"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Harry, please expand :-
>>
>> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
>> > missing,
>>
>> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using
>> the
>> Properties/Settings utility window?
>
> I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, with
> the
> color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or
> should
> I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently from
> my
> color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
> Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my
> machinery'.
>
>>
>> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are
> using
>> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red 'sporadically
>> changes' under all circumstances?
>>
>> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due to
>> a
>> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any
>> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable
>> ends
>> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't you
> just
>> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently??
>
> Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'.
> I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working properly'.
> For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a way
> out.
>
>>
>> Bed time!
>
> Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~
>
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to
>> > turn.
>> >
>> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
>> >
>> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
>> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with
> all
>> > colors present.
>> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish.
>> > Otherwise no changes.
>> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
>> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
>> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
>> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

webster72n
Sat Jul 28 12:41:43 CDT 2007


To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other
interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose.
When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when I'm
connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems like
the green is missing in the color scheme too.
Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it legitimate,
or what? Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs.
My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't be
going back to normal, as it did now, should it?
The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx.
It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find a
solution.
Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart.
I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first thought.
But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view.
Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme?
Thanks for your patience.

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then you're
> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :-
>
> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm
> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms
> >> of dry joints)
>
> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor?
> Have you tried substituting your monitor?
>
> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the
> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly)
>
> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors?
> Can you try a spare VGA cable?
>
> >> or a failing/loose Video Card.
>
> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm
still
> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: gotta
> say.. so long ME)
>
> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry?
>
> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with your
> monitor being the favourite.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> Harry, please expand :-
> >>
> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
> >> > missing,
> >>
> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using
> >> the
> >> Properties/Settings utility window?
> >
> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, with
> > the
> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or
> > should
> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently
from
> > my
> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my
> > machinery'.
> >
> >>
> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are
> > using
> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red
'sporadically
> >> changes' under all circumstances?
> >>
> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due
to
> >> a
> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any
> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable
> >> ends
> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't you
> > just
> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently??
> >
> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'.
> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working properly'.
> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a way
> > out.
> >
> >>
> >> Bed time!
> >
> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~
> >
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to
> >> > turn.
> >> >
> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
> >> >
> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with
> > all
> >> > colors present.
> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish.
> >> > Otherwise no changes.
> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
> >> >
> >> > Harry.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

webster72n
Sat Jul 28 12:43:08 CDT 2007


"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
news:401zpkyz5f1z$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:54:17 -0400, webster72n wrote:
>
> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to turn.
> >
> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
> >
> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely
> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with
all
> > colors present.
> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish.
> > Otherwise no changes.
> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
>
> Monitors tend to die, after time. Especially the CRT (Cathode Ray Tube)
> variety, including TV sets.
>
> I had a ten-year-old Zenith monitor lost the blue gun.
>
> I have a fifteen-year-old Zenith TV which is losing the red gun.

I'm taking it under advisement, Norman, thank you. <H>.

>
> --
> Norman
> ~Shine, bright morning light,
> ~now in the air the spring is coming.
> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
> ~singing down the hills and valleys.

Heather
Sat Jul 28 13:35:53 CDT 2007

Harry,.......stop being a "wuss" and either do what Mart says or try a
different monitor. It will not get any better if you just ignore it.
And if you are not willing to take the advice of your betters on here,
then don't ask the questions. Capish??

Obviously your monitor is biting the dust and it is giving you warning
signals. So is Mart.....so am I. You are ignoring them all.

HF
"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23JA285T0HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other
> interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose.
> When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when
> I'm
> connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems
> like
> the green is missing in the color scheme too.
> Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it
> legitimate,
> or what? Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs.
> My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't
> be
> going back to normal, as it did now, should it?
> The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx.
> It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find
> a
> solution.
> Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart.
> I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first
> thought.
> But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view.
> Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme?
> Thanks for your patience.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then
>> you're
>> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :-
>>
>> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm
>> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms
>> >> of dry joints)
>>
>> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your
>> monitor?
>> Have you tried substituting your monitor?
>>
>> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the
>> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly)
>>
>> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors?
>> Can you try a spare VGA cable?
>>
>> >> or a failing/loose Video Card.
>>
>> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although
>> I'm
> still
>> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re:
>> gotta
>> say.. so long ME)
>>
>> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry?
>>
>> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with
>> your
>> monitor being the favourite.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Harry, please expand :-
>> >>
>> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
>> >> > completely
>> >> > missing,
>> >>
>> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst
>> >> using
>> >> the
>> >> Properties/Settings utility window?
>> >
>> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks,
>> > with
>> > the
>> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically,
>> > or
>> > should
>> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing
>> > permanently
> from
>> > my
>> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
>> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my
>> > machinery'.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you
>> >> are
>> > using
>> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red
> 'sporadically
>> >> changes' under all circumstances?
>> >>
>> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be
>> >> due
> to
>> >> a
>> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show
>> >> any
>> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA
>> >> cable
>> >> ends
>> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey!
>> >> haven't you
>> > just
>> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very
>> >> recently??
>> >
>> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'.
>> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working
>> > properly'.
>> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a
>> > way
>> > out.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Bed time!
>> >
>> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Mart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where
>> >> > to
>> >> > turn.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
>> >> >
>> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
>> >> > completely
>> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal'
>> >> > with
>> > all
>> >> > colors present.
>> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue
>> >> > purplish.
>> >> > Otherwise no changes.
>> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a
>> >> > guess).
>> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
>> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
>> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
>> >> >
>> >> > Harry.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Mart
Sat Jul 28 13:56:42 CDT 2007

Harry wrote :-

> To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other
> interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose.

Usually a very good indicator.

Heat, dry joints, component aging, high temperatures, (very) high voltages,
heat, adjustable resistors (potentiometers) 'wiper contact' becomes
unreliable. dust, btw - did I mention heat?

> When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when I'm
> connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems like
> the green is missing in the color scheme too.


> Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it
> legitimate,
> or what?

Dunno Harry, sorry.

> Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs.
> My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't be
> going back to normal, as it did now, should it?

Intermittent faults are a sure sign of an impending failure - expensive or
inexpensive!

> The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx.

I guess that would make it some 8 or more years old

> It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find a
> solution.

The operative word being 'moment'

Solution? - consider a TFT monitor. You can carry that forward to your next
PC when your WinMe box finally expires.

Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to open your monitor to play about within
it. There are some VERY dangerous voltages floating about under the casing.
Either get it fixed professionally or buy a new Flat Screen - you'll
probably find that the TFT is cheaper in the long run.

> Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart.

How could anyone be angry with you Harry? Frustrated? Maybe, Angry? Never!

> I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first thought.
> But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view.
> Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme?

No

> Thanks for your patience.
>
> Harry.
>

Mart


>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then
>> you're
>> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :-
>>
>> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm
>> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms
>> >> of dry joints)
>>
>> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor?
>> Have you tried substituting your monitor?
>>
>> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the
>> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly)
>>
>> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors?
>> Can you try a spare VGA cable?
>>
>> >> or a failing/loose Video Card.
>>
>> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm
> still
>> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: gotta
>> say.. so long ME)
>>
>> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry?
>>
>> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with your
>> monitor being the favourite.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Harry, please expand :-
>> >>
>> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
>> >> > completely
>> >> > missing,
>> >>
>> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using
>> >> the
>> >> Properties/Settings utility window?
>> >
>> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, with
>> > the
>> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or
>> > should
>> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently
> from
>> > my
>> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
>> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my
>> > machinery'.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are
>> > using
>> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red
> 'sporadically
>> >> changes' under all circumstances?
>> >>
>> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due
> to
>> >> a
>> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any
>> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable
>> >> ends
>> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't
>> >> you
>> > just
>> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently??
>> >
>> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'.
>> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working properly'.
>> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a way
>> > out.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Bed time!
>> >
>> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Mart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to
>> >> > turn.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
>> >> >
>> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
>> >> > completely
>> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal'
>> >> > with
>> > all
>> >> > colors present.
>> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish.
>> >> > Otherwise no changes.
>> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
>> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
>> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
>> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
>> >> >
>> >> > Harry.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

webster72n
Sat Jul 28 16:31:59 CDT 2007

You butt out - C A P I S H ?


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:eorVgXU0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Harry,.......stop being a "wuss" and either do what Mart says or try a
> different monitor. It will not get any better if you just ignore it.
> And if you are not willing to take the advice of your betters on here,
> then don't ask the questions. Capish??
>
> Obviously your monitor is biting the dust and it is giving you warning
> signals. So is Mart.....so am I. You are ignoring them all.
>
> HF
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23JA285T0HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >
> > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other
> > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose.
> > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when
> > I'm
> > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems
> > like
> > the green is missing in the color scheme too.
> > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it
> > legitimate,
> > or what? Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs.
> > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't
> > be
> > going back to normal, as it did now, should it?
> > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx.
> > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find
> > a
> > solution.
> > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart.
> > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first
> > thought.
> > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view.
> > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme?
> > Thanks for your patience.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then
> >> you're
> >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :-
> >>
> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm
> >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms
> >> >> of dry joints)
> >>
> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your
> >> monitor?
> >> Have you tried substituting your monitor?
> >>
> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the
> >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly)
> >>
> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors?
> >> Can you try a spare VGA cable?
> >>
> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card.
> >>
> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although
> >> I'm
> > still
> >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re:
> >> gotta
> >> say.. so long ME)
> >>
> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry?
> >>
> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with
> >> your
> >> monitor being the favourite.
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Harry, please expand :-
> >> >>
> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
> >> >> > completely
> >> >> > missing,
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst
> >> >> using
> >> >> the
> >> >> Properties/Settings utility window?
> >> >
> >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks,
> >> > with
> >> > the
> >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically,
> >> > or
> >> > should
> >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing
> >> > permanently
> > from
> >> > my
> >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
> >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my
> >> > machinery'.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you
> >> >> are
> >> > using
> >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red
> > 'sporadically
> >> >> changes' under all circumstances?
> >> >>
> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be
> >> >> due
> > to
> >> >> a
> >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show
> >> >> any
> >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA
> >> >> cable
> >> >> ends
> >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey!
> >> >> haven't you
> >> > just
> >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very
> >> >> recently??
> >> >
> >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'.
> >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working
> >> > properly'.
> >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a
> >> > way
> >> > out.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Bed time!
> >> >
> >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Mart
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > turn.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
> >> >> > completely
> >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal'
> >> >> > with
> >> > all
> >> >> > colors present.
> >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue
> >> >> > purplish.
> >> >> > Otherwise no changes.
> >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a
> >> >> > guess).
> >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
> >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
> >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Harry.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Heather
Sat Jul 28 16:38:06 CDT 2007

ROFL!! Guess I hit a nerve, eh?

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O99Or6V0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You butt out - C A P I S H ?
>
>
> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eorVgXU0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Harry,.......stop being a "wuss" and either do what Mart says or try
>> a
>> different monitor. It will not get any better if you just ignore it.
>> And if you are not willing to take the advice of your betters on
>> here,
>> then don't ask the questions. Capish??
>>
>> Obviously your monitor is biting the dust and it is giving you
>> warning
>> signals. So is Mart.....so am I. You are ignoring them all.
>>
>> HF
>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23JA285T0HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the
>> > other
>> > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose.
>> > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when
>> > I'm
>> > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure.
>> > Seems
>> > like
>> > the green is missing in the color scheme too.
>> > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it
>> > legitimate,
>> > or what? Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs.
>> > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it
>> > shouldn't
>> > be
>> > going back to normal, as it did now, should it?
>> > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx.
>> > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I
>> > find
>> > a
>> > solution.
>> > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart.
>> > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first
>> > thought.
>> > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view.
>> > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme?
>> > Thanks for your patience.
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun)
>> >> then
>> >> you're
>> >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :-
>> >>
>> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm
>> >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms
>> >> >> of dry joints)
>> >>
>> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your
>> >> monitor?
>> >> Have you tried substituting your monitor?
>> >>
>> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the
>> >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly)
>> >>
>> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors?
>> >> Can you try a spare VGA cable?
>> >>
>> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card.
>> >>
>> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although
>> >> I'm
>> > still
>> >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re:
>> >> gotta
>> >> say.. so long ME)
>> >>
>> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry?
>> >>
>> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with
>> >> your
>> >> monitor being the favourite.
>> >>
>> >> Mart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Harry, please expand :-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
>> >> >> > completely
>> >> >> > missing,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change'
>> >> >> whilst
>> >> >> using
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Properties/Settings utility window?
>> >> >
>> >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of
>> >> > weeks,
>> >> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red
>> >> > sporadically,
>> >> > or
>> >> > should
>> >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing
>> >> > permanently
>> > from
>> >> > my
>> >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
>> >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of
>> >> > my
>> >> > machinery'.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> are
>> >> > using
>> >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red
>> > 'sporadically
>> >> >> changes' under all circumstances?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> due
>> > to
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might
>> >> >> show
>> >> >> any
>> >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA
>> >> >> cable
>> >> >> ends
>> >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey!
>> >> >> haven't you
>> >> > just
>> >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very
>> >> >> recently??
>> >> >
>> >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'.
>> >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working
>> >> > properly'.
>> >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find
>> >> > a
>> >> > way
>> >> > out.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bed time!
>> >> >
>> >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mart
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also
>> >> >> > where
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > turn.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
>> >> >> > completely
>> >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to
>> >> >> > 'normal'
>> >> >> > with
>> >> > all
>> >> >> > colors present.
>> >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue
>> >> >> > purplish.
>> >> >> > Otherwise no changes.
>> >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a
>> >> >> > guess).
>> >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
>> >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
>> >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Harry.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

webster72n
Sat Jul 28 16:42:42 CDT 2007


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%238mRJkU0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Harry wrote :-
>
> > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other
> > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose.
>
> Usually a very good indicator.
>
> Heat, dry joints, component aging, high temperatures, (very) high
voltages,
> heat, adjustable resistors (potentiometers) 'wiper contact' becomes
> unreliable. dust, btw - did I mention heat?
>
> > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when I'm
> > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems
like
> > the green is missing in the color scheme too.
>
>
> > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it
> > legitimate,
> > or what?
>
> Dunno Harry, sorry.
>
> > Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs.
> > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't
be
> > going back to normal, as it did now, should it?
>
> Intermittent faults are a sure sign of an impending failure - expensive or
> inexpensive!
>
> > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx.
>
> I guess that would make it some 8 or more years old
>
> > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find a
> > solution.
>
> The operative word being 'moment'

That 'moment' is still good. Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be
interfering?

>
> Solution? - consider a TFT monitor. You can carry that forward to your
next
> PC when your WinMe box finally expires.
>
> Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to open your monitor to play about within
> it. There are some VERY dangerous voltages floating about under the
casing.

No way, Mart, will I do that!

> Either get it fixed professionally or buy a new Flat Screen - you'll
> probably find that the TFT is cheaper in the long run.

My option will be a new one and probably a flat screen at that, if it should
be re-ocurring again and again, as before.

>
> > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart.
>
> How could anyone be angry with you Harry? Frustrated? Maybe, Angry?
Never!
>
> > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first
thought.
> > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view.
> > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme?
>
> No
>
> > Thanks for your patience,

again, Mart.

> >
> > Harry.
> >
>
> Mart
>
>
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then
> >> you're
> >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :-
> >>
> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm
> >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms
> >> >> of dry joints)
> >>
> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor?
> >> Have you tried substituting your monitor?
> >>
> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the
> >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly)
> >>
> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors?
> >> Can you try a spare VGA cable?
> >>
> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card.
> >>
> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm
> > still
> >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re:
gotta
> >> say.. so long ME)
> >>
> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry?
> >>
> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with your
> >> monitor being the favourite.
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Harry, please expand :-
> >> >>
> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
> >> >> > completely
> >> >> > missing,
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst
using
> >> >> the
> >> >> Properties/Settings utility window?
> >> >
> >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks,
with
> >> > the
> >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or
> >> > should
> >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently
> > from
> >> > my
> >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
> >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my
> >> > machinery'.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you
are
> >> > using
> >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red
> > 'sporadically
> >> >> changes' under all circumstances?
> >> >>
> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be
due
> > to
> >> >> a
> >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show
any
> >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA
cable
> >> >> ends
> >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't
> >> >> you
> >> > just
> >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very
recently??
> >> >
> >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'.
> >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working
properly'.
> >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a
way
> >> > out.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Bed time!
> >> >
> >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Mart
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to
> >> >> > turn.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
> >> >> > completely
> >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal'
> >> >> > with
> >> > all
> >> >> > colors present.
> >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue
purplish.
> >> >> > Otherwise no changes.
> >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
> >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
> >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
> >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Harry.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Mart
Sat Jul 28 18:47:39 CDT 2007

Still unconvinced, Harry asked -

> .... Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be
> interfering?

Err.. No, Harry, ... No

Harry, read my lips :-

Although your Red and Green guns (and perhaps the whole of your monitor) may
not have completely failed just yet (see also Norman's input regarding life
cycles) their associated circuitry would appear to be causing you 'problems'
which YOU should not even attempt to repair. The fact that (from here, it
appears that) your monitor is on its back with its feet in the air, is a
pretty good indication that it is almost deceased (as in "Dead Parrot")

You *may* get a few more days, weeks, or even months (of intermittent)
working life. You *may* also think that throwing money at it, might also
help as well as pratting about, but you can be assured that its (economic)
demise is imminent.

By all means be optimistic, but do also be prepared for the worst case.
Start saving now - it will be 'money in the bank' towards your next
PC/Monitor. Wishful feelings - sadly - don't always repair computers.

Bite the bullet, Harry, sooner rather than later. You'll wonder why you left
it so long!

Mart


"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uOsE5tW0HHA.5764@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%238mRJkU0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Harry wrote :-
>>
>> > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other
>> > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose.
>>
>> Usually a very good indicator.
>>
>> Heat, dry joints, component aging, high temperatures, (very) high
> voltages,
>> heat, adjustable resistors (potentiometers) 'wiper contact' becomes
>> unreliable. dust, btw - did I mention heat?
>>
>> > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when I'm
>> > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems
> like
>> > the green is missing in the color scheme too.
>>
>>
>> > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it
>> > legitimate,
>> > or what?
>>
>> Dunno Harry, sorry.
>>
>> > Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs.
>> > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't
> be
>> > going back to normal, as it did now, should it?
>>
>> Intermittent faults are a sure sign of an impending failure - expensive
>> or
>> inexpensive!
>>
>> > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx.
>>
>> I guess that would make it some 8 or more years old
>>
>> > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find
>> > a
>> > solution.
>>
>> The operative word being 'moment'
>
> That 'moment' is still good. Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be
> interfering?
>
>>
>> Solution? - consider a TFT monitor. You can carry that forward to your
> next
>> PC when your WinMe box finally expires.
>>
>> Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to open your monitor to play about within
>> it. There are some VERY dangerous voltages floating about under the
> casing.
>
> No way, Mart, will I do that!
>
>> Either get it fixed professionally or buy a new Flat Screen - you'll
>> probably find that the TFT is cheaper in the long run.
>
> My option will be a new one and probably a flat screen at that, if it
> should
> be re-ocurring again and again, as before.
>
>>
>> > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart.
>>
>> How could anyone be angry with you Harry? Frustrated? Maybe, Angry?
> Never!
>>
>> > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first
> thought.
>> > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view.
>> > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme?
>>
>> No
>>
>> > Thanks for your patience,
>
> again, Mart.
>
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> >
>> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then
>> >> you're
>> >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :-
>> >>
>> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm
>> >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms
>> >> >> of dry joints)
>> >>
>> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor?
>> >> Have you tried substituting your monitor?
>> >>
>> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the
>> >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly)
>> >>
>> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors?
>> >> Can you try a spare VGA cable?
>> >>
>> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card.
>> >>
>> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm
>> > still
>> >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re:
> gotta
>> >> say.. so long ME)
>> >>
>> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry?
>> >>
>> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with
>> >> your
>> >> monitor being the favourite.
>> >>
>> >> Mart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Harry, please expand :-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
>> >> >> > completely
>> >> >> > missing,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst
> using
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Properties/Settings utility window?
>> >> >
>> >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks,
> with
>> >> > the
>> >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or
>> >> > should
>> >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently
>> > from
>> >> > my
>> >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
>> >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my
>> >> > machinery'.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you
> are
>> >> > using
>> >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red
>> > 'sporadically
>> >> >> changes' under all circumstances?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be
> due
>> > to
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show
> any
>> >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA
> cable
>> >> >> ends
>> >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't
>> >> >> you
>> >> > just
>> >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very
> recently??
>> >> >
>> >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'.
>> >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working
> properly'.
>> >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a
> way
>> >> > out.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bed time!
>> >> >
>> >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mart
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > turn.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
>> >> >> > completely
>> >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal'
>> >> >> > with
>> >> > all
>> >> >> > colors present.
>> >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue
> purplish.
>> >> >> > Otherwise no changes.
>> >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a
>> >> >> > guess).
>> >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
>> >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
>> >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Harry.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

webster72n
Sat Jul 28 19:01:57 CDT 2007


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uBu5tGX0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Still unconvinced, Harry asked -
>
> > .... Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be
> > interfering?
>
> Err.. No, Harry, ... No
>
> Harry, read my lips :-
>
> Although your Red and Green guns (and perhaps the whole of your monitor)
may
> not have completely failed just yet (see also Norman's input regarding
life
> cycles) their associated circuitry would appear to be causing you
'problems'
> which YOU should not even attempt to repair. The fact that (from here, it
> appears that) your monitor is on its back with its feet in the air, is a
> pretty good indication that it is almost deceased (as in "Dead Parrot")
>
> You *may* get a few more days, weeks, or even months (of intermittent)
> working life. You *may* also think that throwing money at it, might also
> help as well as pratting about, but you can be assured that its (economic)
> demise is imminent.
>
> By all means be optimistic, but do also be prepared for the worst case.
> Start saving now - it will be 'money in the bank' towards your next
> PC/Monitor. Wishful feelings - sadly - don't always repair computers.
>
> Bite the bullet, Harry, sooner rather than later. You'll wonder why you
left
> it so long!

Thought I already made that clear, Mart, but as long as it works, let it
work.
At the next 'warning sign' I'll take appropriate action, according to the
given suggestions. Really appreciate your input, Mart, thanks a million.

Harry.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uOsE5tW0HHA.5764@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:%238mRJkU0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Harry wrote :-
> >>
> >> > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the
other
> >> > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose.
> >>
> >> Usually a very good indicator.
> >>
> >> Heat, dry joints, component aging, high temperatures, (very) high
> > voltages,
> >> heat, adjustable resistors (potentiometers) 'wiper contact' becomes
> >> unreliable. dust, btw - did I mention heat?
> >>
> >> > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when
I'm
> >> > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems
> > like
> >> > the green is missing in the color scheme too.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it
> >> > legitimate,
> >> > or what?
> >>
> >> Dunno Harry, sorry.
> >>
> >> > Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs.
> >> > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it
shouldn't
> > be
> >> > going back to normal, as it did now, should it?
> >>
> >> Intermittent faults are a sure sign of an impending failure - expensive
> >> or
> >> inexpensive!
> >>
> >> > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx.
> >>
> >> I guess that would make it some 8 or more years old
> >>
> >> > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I
find
> >> > a
> >> > solution.
> >>
> >> The operative word being 'moment'
> >
> > That 'moment' is still good. Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be
> > interfering?
> >
> >>
> >> Solution? - consider a TFT monitor. You can carry that forward to your
> > next
> >> PC when your WinMe box finally expires.
> >>
> >> Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to open your monitor to play about
within
> >> it. There are some VERY dangerous voltages floating about under the
> > casing.
> >
> > No way, Mart, will I do that!
> >
> >> Either get it fixed professionally or buy a new Flat Screen - you'll
> >> probably find that the TFT is cheaper in the long run.
> >
> > My option will be a new one and probably a flat screen at that, if it
> > should
> > be re-ocurring again and again, as before.
> >
> >>
> >> > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart.
> >>
> >> How could anyone be angry with you Harry? Frustrated? Maybe, Angry?
> > Never!
> >>
> >> > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first
> > thought.
> >> > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view.
> >> > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme?
> >>
> >> No
> >>
> >> > Thanks for your patience,
> >
> > again, Mart.
> >
> >> >
> >> > Harry.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> >> > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then
> >> >> you're
> >> >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :-
> >> >>
> >> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm
> >> >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms
> >> >> >> of dry joints)
> >> >>
> >> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your
monitor?
> >> >> Have you tried substituting your monitor?
> >> >>
> >> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the
> >> >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly)
> >> >>
> >> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors?
> >> >> Can you try a spare VGA cable?
> >> >>
> >> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card.
> >> >>
> >> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although
I'm
> >> > still
> >> >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re:
> > gotta
> >> >> say.. so long ME)
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry?
> >> >>
> >> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with
> >> >> your
> >> >> monitor being the favourite.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mart
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> Harry, please expand :-
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
> >> >> >> > completely
> >> >> >> > missing,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst
> > using
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> Properties/Settings utility window?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks,
> > with
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically,
or
> >> >> > should
> >> >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing
permanently
> >> > from
> >> >> > my
> >> >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough?
> >> >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my
> >> >> > machinery'.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when
you
> > are
> >> >> > using
> >> >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red
> >> > 'sporadically
> >> >> >> changes' under all circumstances?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be
> > due
> >> > to
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might
show
> > any
> >> >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA
> > cable
> >> >> >> ends
> >> >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey!
haven't
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very
> > r