Mart
Sun Feb 06 17:55:53 CST 2005
Shane (and George), you may now be starting to make a different but none the
less, valid point.
But my initial reply was to discount Ogg's assertion that "Formatting a CD-R
disc makes no sense. I would believe it's generally impossible anyway.
Only a CD-RW disc is designed to be formatted." by describing a real,
working situation.
I pointed out that it was/is possible AND I gave an example of where and how
packet writing - using a formatted CD-R - is still in current use, to
illustrate my argument. However, time, software and hardware has moved on
somewhat since they were introduced. The application (MSBackup) was at the
time an ideal candidate (and maybe the only practicable candidate?) for
using CD-R's in this manner.
However, particularly with the introduction of XP (which may also depend on
bundled burning software) and with the general reputation of unreliability
of using packet written disks, especially between OS's and often just
between PC's and even between CD-ROM's, then software manufacturers appear
to have 'modified' their more recent packages, viz: Nero's InCD.
Now that's a whole new ball-game for discussion. (or not <g>)
So I'm neither advocating or decrying the practice of formatting CD-R's for
packet writing, just pointing out that it can, and has been done.
Mart
"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:36n90bF5211alU1@individual.net...
> George,
>
> I must look into this further. I know you can format a CDRW in ISO/Joliet
> with Nero. I don't know how it is with Roxio, but you can't install InCD
> without also having Nero, so maybe there's not perceived to be a point in
> enabling InCD to use CDRs. And maybe earlier builds could?
>
> Possibly there's a difference between Nero 5x and 6x, as the latter has
> many companion apps, most of which I haven't bothered exploring. However
> whether any of them enable drag and drop operations to UDF formatted CDR,
> I don't know.
>
> Don't have time right now though.
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "George Gee" <george.nomaps@ntlworld.xom> wrote in message
> news:%23w99$yHDFHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Shane
>>
>> I have Roxio Easy CD Creator installed.
>> I have just slipped a brand new CD-R into the writer.
>> Right-clicked the drive, and clicked format,
>> (not expecting anything to happen).
>>
>> Formatting took maybe half a second.
>>
>> I right-clicked a file > send to > drive D,
>> the file was copied to the CD-R, I was able to open it
>> and then I was able to delete it!
>>
>> Dragged another file from the desktop onto the shortcut
>> to my D drive, no problem!
>>
>> Opened the file, and altered the contents, and saved it.
>> Copied the file from the CD-R onto my desktop, looked at
>> it's properties 'Archive'
>>
>> The CD-R seems to behave exactly as I would expect only a CD-RW
>> to behave.
>>
>> Somebody been pulling the wool over our eyes?
>>
>> Gob-smacked!!!
>>
>> George Gee
>>
>>
>> *Shane* has posted this message:
>>
>>> This is a straight copy/paste from the first page of the current
>>> (well, one sub-build back) of InCD's Help file:
>>>
>>> InCD uses only rewritable discs (CD-RW, DVD-RAM, DVD+RW,
>>> DVD-RW). Discs which can only be written to once (CD-R, DVD+R or
>>> DVD-R) cannot be used with InCD.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard Goh" <me@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>>> news:cu5lvb02np8@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>>> Formatting a CD-R makes a lot of sense. You can then use it the
>>>> same way you would a floppy.
>>>> Roxio's Easy CD Creator and Ahead's InCD both provide this option.
>>>> I always recommend CD-R's and not CD-RW's base on price and, if you
>>>> know how
>>>> a CD-RW works, you would question the long-term reliability.
>>>> I can buy at least 4 CD-R's for the price of one CD-RW.
>>>>
>>>> "Ogg" <sorry-nopam-wanted@anywhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:rkdNd.27218$Ck1.2100171@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>>> Formatting a CD-R disc makes no sense. I would believe it's
>>>>> generally impossible anyway. Only a CD-RW disc is designed to be
>>>>> formatted. How much
>>>>> ram does your hp system have? If 256meg or less, then make
>>>>> absolutely sure
>>>>> that you are not running any other programs in the background (such
>>>>> as a virus scan, or internet) while the burn is taking place.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a for year old LG 12x8x32x (which means that it is capable of
>>>>> burning
>>>>> a CD-R at 12x). Funny thing.. it USED to be able to burn at 12x
>>>>> without a
>>>>> problem. Now.. 4 years later, the best I can achieve reliably is
>>>>> 4x. I still have the original 256meg ram only. The only
>>>>> difference in my system
>>>>> from 4 years ago until now is that I have far more programs loaded
>>>>> in memory
>>>>> (Avg, ICS are the biggest resource hogs I guess). I might risk an
>>>>> 8x burn
>>>>> from time to time and succeed.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW.. As you, I too primarily use Adaptec 4.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> vince wrote:
>>>>>> I'm using a CD-WriterPlus on an HP 8766 millenium system with
>>>>>> Adaptec Easy Creator 4/Adaptec CD Wizard. If I try to use the
>>>>>> latter on a CD-R, I can't format the disc; if I use the former, in
>>>>>> the layout all goes well but at 1X,2X or 4X I always get an error
>>>>>> in the output device during the burn cycle with all files skipped
>>>>>> whether a small 150 kb file or the full 650 Mb. Is this a hardware
>>>>>> problem or should I try reloading the Adaptec Software?
>>
>>
>>
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