Re: CDRTC.DLL - Mart

I am starting this new thread to make things easier for Mart.
Please, bear with me on this.
Thank you.

Harry.

Mart
Sat May 27 13:34:48 CDT 2006

Sorry Harry, I just missed this new thread before I'd pressed the Send
button and tagged onto the previous one. However, we may as well keep with
this one.

So here it is again :-

Harry wrote :-
>
> Been there and already done that, Mart. It checks out allright as 'G'.
>
> Harry.

I should jolly-well hope so Harry!

So, now that you've tested and proved that your A: drive and your CD-ROM are
NOT faulty AND they (along with all your other drives) are all where they
should be (drive letters are correct in WinMe Normal Mode) - what's the
problem?

You said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
> 1. No quick-fix for A ( didn't try disconnecting the
> cable and reconnecting it yet).

So what problems are you (still?) having with your A: drive?

You also said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
> 2. When you read through the thread, you will find
> that my CD-ROM drive is listed only as 'W' anymore,
> when it used to be 'R/W'. Where did the 'R' go?

As Shane asked :-

> Listed where?

Unless or until you install your 'burner' software, your CD-ROM will not be
recognised (and function) as a burner (Writer), but perform only as a CD-ROM
(Reader) drive.

So what other problems are you now having with your CD-ROM (the G:) drive?

I await the next instalment <g>

Mart


"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OgMfjXbgGHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I am starting this new thread to make things easier for Mart.
> Please, bear with me on this.
> Thank you.
>
> Harry.
>
>

webster72n
Sat May 27 14:57:06 CDT 2006


Not sure whether you mean 'in-' or 'uninstall', Mart.
When it comes to install, the machine says
"This program cnnot be run in DOS-Mode".
I certainly can't install it in normal mode under windows, because that's
where the problem lies with both drives, unless there is another way.
If you mean uninstall, I 'searched and destroyed' far and wide.
Therefore I am out of options, except for replacement of the drives.

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:O9f98wbgGHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Sorry Harry, I just missed this new thread before I'd pressed the Send
> button and tagged onto the previous one. However, we may as well keep with
> this one.
>
> So here it is again :-
>
> Harry wrote :-
> >
> > Been there and already done that, Mart. It checks out allright as 'G'.
> >
> > Harry.
>
> I should jolly-well hope so Harry!
>
> So, now that you've tested and proved that your A: drive and your CD-ROM
are
> NOT faulty AND they (along with all your other drives) are all where they
> should be (drive letters are correct in WinMe Normal Mode) - what's the
> problem?
>
> You said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
> > 1. No quick-fix for A ( didn't try disconnecting the
> > cable and reconnecting it yet).
>
> So what problems are you (still?) having with your A: drive?
>
> You also said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
> > 2. When you read through the thread, you will find
> > that my CD-ROM drive is listed only as 'W' anymore,
> > when it used to be 'R/W'. Where did the 'R' go?
>
> As Shane asked :-
>
> > Listed where?
>
> Unless or until you install your 'burner' software, your CD-ROM will not
be
> recognised (and function) as a burner (Writer), but perform only as a
CD-ROM
> (Reader) drive.
>
> So what other problems are you now having with your CD-ROM (the G:) drive?
>
> I await the next instalment <g>
>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OgMfjXbgGHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >I am starting this new thread to make things easier for Mart.
> > Please, bear with me on this.
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
>
>

Noel
Sat May 27 15:00:25 CDT 2006

Not the bloody drivers Harry - it doesn't need them!!

THE BURNER SOFTWARE - Nero, or Roxio/Adaptec/Sonic!!!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Not sure whether you mean 'in-' or 'uninstall', Mart.
> When it comes to install, the machine says
> "This program cnnot be run in DOS-Mode".
> I certainly can't install it in normal mode under windows, because that's
> where the problem lies with both drives, unless there is another way.
> If you mean uninstall, I 'searched and destroyed' far and wide.
> Therefore I am out of options, except for replacement of the drives.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:O9f98wbgGHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Sorry Harry, I just missed this new thread before I'd pressed the Send
>> button and tagged onto the previous one. However, we may as well keep
>> with
>> this one.
>>
>> So here it is again :-
>>
>> Harry wrote :-
>> >
>> > Been there and already done that, Mart. It checks out allright as 'G'.
>> >
>> > Harry.
>>
>> I should jolly-well hope so Harry!
>>
>> So, now that you've tested and proved that your A: drive and your CD-ROM
> are
>> NOT faulty AND they (along with all your other drives) are all where they
>> should be (drive letters are correct in WinMe Normal Mode) - what's the
>> problem?
>>
>> You said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
>> > 1. No quick-fix for A ( didn't try disconnecting the
>> > cable and reconnecting it yet).
>>
>> So what problems are you (still?) having with your A: drive?
>>
>> You also said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
>> > 2. When you read through the thread, you will find
>> > that my CD-ROM drive is listed only as 'W' anymore,
>> > when it used to be 'R/W'. Where did the 'R' go?
>>
>> As Shane asked :-
>>
>> > Listed where?
>>
>> Unless or until you install your 'burner' software, your CD-ROM will not
> be
>> recognised (and function) as a burner (Writer), but perform only as a
> CD-ROM
>> (Reader) drive.
>>
>> So what other problems are you now having with your CD-ROM (the G:)
>> drive?
>>
>> I await the next instalment <g>
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OgMfjXbgGHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >I am starting this new thread to make things easier for Mart.
>> > Please, bear with me on this.
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Mart
Sat May 27 15:09:05 CDT 2006

Harry,

'Scuse me while I go for lie-down in a darkened room.

Mart


"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Not sure whether you mean 'in-' or 'uninstall', Mart.
> When it comes to install, the machine says
> "This program cnnot be run in DOS-Mode".
> I certainly can't install it in normal mode under windows, because that's
> where the problem lies with both drives, unless there is another way.
> If you mean uninstall, I 'searched and destroyed' far and wide.
> Therefore I am out of options, except for replacement of the drives.
>
> Harry.

Mart
Sat May 27 15:16:24 CDT 2006

Jeepers Harry - you could have mentioned the A: drive was STILL missing
(faulty) in WinMe - Normal and/or Safe Mode Harry?

AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE A: DRIVE ONLY!!!!!

I though that we were on a 'new' thread - it's no use tacking it down the
bottom of the old one!!

Mart


"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Not sure whether you mean 'in-' or 'uninstall', Mart.
> When it comes to install, the machine says
> "This program cnnot be run in DOS-Mode".
> I certainly can't install it in normal mode under windows, because that's
> where the problem lies with both drives, unless there is another way.
> If you mean uninstall, I 'searched and destroyed' far and wide.
> Therefore I am out of options, except for replacement of the drives.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:O9f98wbgGHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Sorry Harry, I just missed this new thread before I'd pressed the Send
>> button and tagged onto the previous one. However, we may as well keep
>> with
>> this one.
>>
>> So here it is again :-
>>
>> Harry wrote :-
>> >
>> > Been there and already done that, Mart. It checks out allright as 'G'.
>> >
>> > Harry.
>>
>> I should jolly-well hope so Harry!
>>
>> So, now that you've tested and proved that your A: drive and your CD-ROM
> are
>> NOT faulty AND they (along with all your other drives) are all where they
>> should be (drive letters are correct in WinMe Normal Mode) - what's the
>> problem?
>>
>> You said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
>> > 1. No quick-fix for A ( didn't try disconnecting the
>> > cable and reconnecting it yet).
>>
>> So what problems are you (still?) having with your A: drive?
>>
>> You also said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
>> > 2. When you read through the thread, you will find
>> > that my CD-ROM drive is listed only as 'W' anymore,
>> > when it used to be 'R/W'. Where did the 'R' go?
>>
>> As Shane asked :-
>>
>> > Listed where?
>>
>> Unless or until you install your 'burner' software, your CD-ROM will not
> be
>> recognised (and function) as a burner (Writer), but perform only as a
> CD-ROM
>> (Reader) drive.
>>
>> So what other problems are you now having with your CD-ROM (the G:)
>> drive?
>>
>> I await the next instalment <g>
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OgMfjXbgGHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >I am starting this new thread to make things easier for Mart.
>> > Please, bear with me on this.
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Heather
Sat May 27 15:33:26 CDT 2006

Poor wee thing.....would you care for a dram of Scotch......or the whole
damn bottle, lol.

I believe you have now gone *above and beyond*.....you deserve this
rest.

XX Heather

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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> Harry,
>
> 'Scuse me while I go for lie-down in a darkened room.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O6FxGdcgGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Not sure whether you mean 'in-' or 'uninstall', Mart.
>> When it comes to install, the machine says
>> "This program cnnot be run in DOS-Mode".
>> I certainly can't install it in normal mode under windows, because
>> that's
>> where the problem lies with both drives, unless there is another way.
>> If you mean uninstall, I 'searched and destroyed' far and wide.
>> Therefore I am out of options, except for replacement of the drives.
>>
>> Harry.
>
>

Noel
Sat May 27 15:34:12 CDT 2006

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:eZ1OupcgGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Jeepers Harry - you could have mentioned the A: drive was STILL missing
> (faulty) in WinMe - Normal and/or Safe Mode Harry?
>
> AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE A: DRIVE ONLY!!!!!
>
> I though that we were on a 'new' thread - it's no use tacking it down the
> bottom of the old one!!
>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O6FxGdcgGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Not sure whether you mean 'in-' or 'uninstall', Mart.
>> When it comes to install, the machine says
>> "This program cnnot be run in DOS-Mode".
>> I certainly can't install it in normal mode under windows, because that's
>> where the problem lies with both drives, unless there is another way.
>> If you mean uninstall, I 'searched and destroyed' far and wide.
>> Therefore I am out of options, except for replacement of the drives.
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:O9f98wbgGHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Sorry Harry, I just missed this new thread before I'd pressed the Send
>>> button and tagged onto the previous one. However, we may as well keep
>>> with
>>> this one.
>>>
>>> So here it is again :-
>>>
>>> Harry wrote :-
>>> >
>>> > Been there and already done that, Mart. It checks out allright as 'G'.
>>> >
>>> > Harry.
>>>
>>> I should jolly-well hope so Harry!
>>>
>>> So, now that you've tested and proved that your A: drive and your CD-ROM
>> are
>>> NOT faulty AND they (along with all your other drives) are all where
>>> they
>>> should be (drive letters are correct in WinMe Normal Mode) - what's the
>>> problem?
>>>
>>> You said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
>>> > 1. No quick-fix for A ( didn't try disconnecting the
>>> > cable and reconnecting it yet).
>>>
>>> So what problems are you (still?) having with your A: drive?
>>>
>>> You also said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
>>> > 2. When you read through the thread, you will find
>>> > that my CD-ROM drive is listed only as 'W' anymore,
>>> > when it used to be 'R/W'. Where did the 'R' go?
>>>
>>> As Shane asked :-
>>>
>>> > Listed where?
>>>
>>> Unless or until you install your 'burner' software, your CD-ROM will not
>> be
>>> recognised (and function) as a burner (Writer), but perform only as a
>> CD-ROM
>>> (Reader) drive.
>>>
>>> So what other problems are you now having with your CD-ROM (the G:)
>>> drive?
>>>
>>> I await the next instalment <g>
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OgMfjXbgGHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> >I am starting this new thread to make things easier for Mart.
>>> > Please, bear with me on this.
>>> > Thank you.
>>> >
>>> > Harry.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Joan
Sat May 27 16:03:03 CDT 2006

<lol>
Joan


Mart wrote:
> Harry,
>
> 'Scuse me while I go for lie-down in a darkened room.
>
> Mart
>

Mart
Sat May 27 18:20:58 CDT 2006

Suitably refreshed Heather, a couple of drams (well, tinnies) AND 40 minutes
of The Eagles (BBC1 TV)

Right Harry - What's your next problem?

Mart



"Heather" <figgs@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:OD30QzcgGHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Poor wee thing.....would you care for a dram of Scotch......or the whole
> damn bottle, lol.
>
> I believe you have now gone *above and beyond*.....you deserve this rest.
>
> XX Heather
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uJWSolcgGHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Harry,
>>
>> 'Scuse me while I go for lie-down in a darkened room.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O6FxGdcgGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Not sure whether you mean 'in-' or 'uninstall', Mart.
>>> When it comes to install, the machine says
>>> "This program cnnot be run in DOS-Mode".
>>> I certainly can't install it in normal mode under windows, because
>>> that's
>>> where the problem lies with both drives, unless there is another way.
>>> If you mean uninstall, I 'searched and destroyed' far and wide.
>>> Therefore I am out of options, except for replacement of the drives.
>>>
>>> Harry.
>>
>>
>
>

webster72n
Sat May 27 20:22:13 CDT 2006


You ask for the problem, Mart, it is still exactly the same as it was from
the very beginning, despite all of the corrective measures being taken.
Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive simply don't respond under Windows, with me
getting the same messages as I repeatedly described before.
Please accept my apologies for any trouble I may have caused you.

Harry.



"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:O9f98wbgGHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Sorry Harry, I just missed this new thread before I'd pressed the Send
> button and tagged onto the previous one. However, we may as well keep with
> this one.
>
> So here it is again :-
>
> Harry wrote :-
> >
> > Been there and already done that, Mart. It checks out allright as 'G'.
> >
> > Harry.
>
> I should jolly-well hope so Harry!
>
> So, now that you've tested and proved that your A: drive and your CD-ROM
are
> NOT faulty AND they (along with all your other drives) are all where they
> should be (drive letters are correct in WinMe Normal Mode) - what's the
> problem?
>
> You said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
> > 1. No quick-fix for A ( didn't try disconnecting the
> > cable and reconnecting it yet).
>
> So what problems are you (still?) having with your A: drive?
>
> You also said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
> > 2. When you read through the thread, you will find
> > that my CD-ROM drive is listed only as 'W' anymore,
> > when it used to be 'R/W'. Where did the 'R' go?
>
> As Shane asked :-
>
> > Listed where?
>
> Unless or until you install your 'burner' software, your CD-ROM will not
be
> recognised (and function) as a burner (Writer), but perform only as a
CD-ROM
> (Reader) drive.
>
> So what other problems are you now having with your CD-ROM (the G:) drive?
>
> I await the next instalment <g>
>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OgMfjXbgGHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >I am starting this new thread to make things easier for Mart.
> > Please, bear with me on this.
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
>
>

Mart
Sun May 28 01:11:26 CDT 2006

Harry,

> Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive simply don't respond under Windows,

Precisely!! - They DO NOT RESPOND UNDER ***WINDOWS****

BUT they do respond (correctly) under (Real Mode) DOS - and are recognised
(correctly) in Real Mode DOS

- In other words, the drives themselves are not faulty.

The problem is, that Windows Millennium is not recognising them correctly!!

- And THAT'S what you need to fix.

In your reply to Shane dated 27 May 2006 23:13 (on the old thread - I
thought you were sticking to this one!) you go on about not having Iomega
Zip.

Harry, you do have an Iomega Zip 100 drive - your B: drive - Remember?

OK Harry - Next task, and for the moment let's just worry about the A: drive
problem :-

Do exactly what Shane told you :-

Boot into Safe Mode - go to Device Manager and under Disk Drives:, 'Remove'
(delete) the TWO Iomega Zip 100 entries. Then shut down and re-boot into
Normal Mode. - You should see the Zip drive being re-detected (enumerated)
as the pc reboots.

Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows Explorer. Can
you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?

Mart

Shane
Sun May 28 03:14:47 CDT 2006

> In your reply to Shane dated 27 May 2006 23:13 (on the old thread - I
> thought you were sticking to this one!)

I think I can be blamed for that one, Mart. I thought it better to continue
in a different thread if you and I are answering at the same time. You have
your own, I used Noel's! :-)

Of course, if Noel jumps back in I suppose I'll need a thread named for me!


Shane

Joan
Sun May 28 05:13:31 CDT 2006

No you wont, you will take a break from sitting at the machine, your
health is more important than the trouble Harry gets himself into.
Joan

Shane wrote:
>
> Of course, if Noel jumps back in I suppose I'll need a thread named
> for me!
>
> Shane

Shane
Sun May 28 05:39:58 CDT 2006

Thanks Joan.

Well, mum'll be arriving this afternoon, so I'll have to quit and vacuum and
the like now anyway. Then she'll hog the computer all the time she's here!
<g> Just last night I was thinking of getting another, but it's probably not
a good idea. Better to be compelled to stop!

I was just wondering if anyone had had Harry run Scanreg /fix - which might
improve things slightly - but no matter! Subject dropped!

xx

Shane


Joan Archer wrote:
> No you wont, you will take a break from sitting at the machine, your
> health is more important than the trouble Harry gets himself into.
> Joan
>
> Shane wrote:
>>
>> Of course, if Noel jumps back in I suppose I'll need a thread named
>> for me!
>>
>> Shane

Heather
Sun May 28 11:16:47 CDT 2006

Goodonya, Mom. Harry will still be screwing up his machine LONG after
Shane's health gets better, so Shane can safely take a break.

XX Figgs 8-))

"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:eQHnf9jgGHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> No you wont, you will take a break from sitting at the machine, your
> health is more important than the trouble Harry gets himself into.
> Joan
>
> Shane wrote:
>>
>> Of course, if Noel jumps back in I suppose I'll need a thread named
>> for me!
>>
>> Shane
>
>

Joan
Sun May 28 14:32:14 CDT 2006

<lol> I agree, I was talking to him on the phone and he definitely needs
to keep off the computer for a while.
Joan


Heather wrote:
> Goodonya, Mom. Harry will still be screwing up his machine LONG after
> Shane's health gets better, so Shane can safely take a break.
>
> XX Figgs 8-))
>

webster72n
Sun May 28 17:16:09 CDT 2006


You'll be rewarded eternally, Mart, for sticking with me on this one.
There have been some misunderstandings and/or omissions, but what you are
saying here is quite clear. I deleted those two entries for Iomega Zip and
the order in Device Manager was reestablished, but Floppy A drive still
doesn't want to read (or write) and aks for a disk when one is already
loaded. IOW still no change, I'm sorry to say.

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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> Harry,
>
> > Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive simply don't respond under Windows,
>
> Precisely!! - They DO NOT RESPOND UNDER ***WINDOWS****
>
> BUT they do respond (correctly) under (Real Mode) DOS - and are recognised
> (correctly) in Real Mode DOS
>
> - In other words, the drives themselves are not faulty.
>
> The problem is, that Windows Millennium is not recognising them
correctly!!
>
> - And THAT'S what you need to fix.
>
> In your reply to Shane dated 27 May 2006 23:13 (on the old thread - I
> thought you were sticking to this one!) you go on about not having Iomega
> Zip.
>
> Harry, you do have an Iomega Zip 100 drive - your B: drive - Remember?
>
> OK Harry - Next task, and for the moment let's just worry about the A:
drive
> problem :-
>
> Do exactly what Shane told you :-
>
> Boot into Safe Mode - go to Device Manager and under Disk Drives:,
'Remove'
> (delete) the TWO Iomega Zip 100 entries. Then shut down and re-boot into
> Normal Mode. - You should see the Zip drive being re-detected (enumerated)
> as the pc reboots.
>
> Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows Explorer.
Can
> you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
>
> Mart
>
>
>

Mart
Sun May 28 18:26:49 CDT 2006

OK Harry, then will you now try the following please :-

With the power off, unplug your Zip 100 Drive (which I assume to be a USB
device), then power-up and boot into Safe Mode again.

This time, 'Remove' (delete) your A: (floppy disk) drive in Device Manager
AND for the sake of the exercise, also 'Remove' (delete) your Zip 100 Drive.

N.B. There *should* have only been ONE instance showing of the Zip !00 this
time - and *maybe* - the Zip drive had acquired a different letter (G:?) in
Windows Explorer?

For the moment don't worry - we'll pursue that later.

Leaving your Zip drive disconnected, reboot into Normal Mode.

Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows Explorer. Can
you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?

Mart


"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OskYcPqgGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> You'll be rewarded eternally, Mart, for sticking with me on this one.
> There have been some misunderstandings and/or omissions, but what you are
> saying here is quite clear. I deleted those two entries for Iomega Zip and
> the order in Device Manager was reestablished, but Floppy A drive still
> doesn't want to read (or write) and aks for a disk when one is already
> loaded. IOW still no change, I'm sorry to say.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uEFmO2hgGHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Harry,
>>
>> > Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive simply don't respond under Windows,
>>
>> Precisely!! - They DO NOT RESPOND UNDER ***WINDOWS****
>>
>> BUT they do respond (correctly) under (Real Mode) DOS - and are
>> recognised
>> (correctly) in Real Mode DOS
>>
>> - In other words, the drives themselves are not faulty.
>>
>> The problem is, that Windows Millennium is not recognising them
> correctly!!
>>
>> - And THAT'S what you need to fix.
>>
>> In your reply to Shane dated 27 May 2006 23:13 (on the old thread - I
>> thought you were sticking to this one!) you go on about not having Iomega
>> Zip.
>>
>> Harry, you do have an Iomega Zip 100 drive - your B: drive - Remember?
>>
>> OK Harry - Next task, and for the moment let's just worry about the A:
> drive
>> problem :-
>>
>> Do exactly what Shane told you :-
>>
>> Boot into Safe Mode - go to Device Manager and under Disk Drives:,
> 'Remove'
>> (delete) the TWO Iomega Zip 100 entries. Then shut down and re-boot into
>> Normal Mode. - You should see the Zip drive being re-detected
>> (enumerated)
>> as the pc reboots.
>>
>> Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows Explorer.
> Can
>> you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>
>

webster72n
Sun May 28 19:10:20 CDT 2006


Thank you Mart.
The Zip drive is internal and had at one time drive letter E, I believe, but
since my last format it is a Floppy B.
Thought you may want to know before I go ahead with your instructions.

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:Ouw8y4qgGHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> OK Harry, then will you now try the following please :-
>
> With the power off, unplug your Zip 100 Drive (which I assume to be a USB
> device), then power-up and boot into Safe Mode again.
>
> This time, 'Remove' (delete) your A: (floppy disk) drive in Device Manager
> AND for the sake of the exercise, also 'Remove' (delete) your Zip 100
Drive.
>
> N.B. There *should* have only been ONE instance showing of the Zip !00
this
> time - and *maybe* - the Zip drive had acquired a different letter (G:?)
in
> Windows Explorer?
>
> For the moment don't worry - we'll pursue that later.
>
> Leaving your Zip drive disconnected, reboot into Normal Mode.
>
> Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows Explorer.
Can
> you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
>
> Mart
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OskYcPqgGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >
> > You'll be rewarded eternally, Mart, for sticking with me on this one.
> > There have been some misunderstandings and/or omissions, but what you
are
> > saying here is quite clear. I deleted those two entries for Iomega Zip
and
> > the order in Device Manager was reestablished, but Floppy A drive still
> > doesn't want to read (or write) and aks for a disk when one is already
> > loaded. IOW still no change, I'm sorry to say.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:uEFmO2hgGHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Harry,
> >>
> >> > Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive simply don't respond under Windows,
> >>
> >> Precisely!! - They DO NOT RESPOND UNDER ***WINDOWS****
> >>
> >> BUT they do respond (correctly) under (Real Mode) DOS - and are
> >> recognised
> >> (correctly) in Real Mode DOS
> >>
> >> - In other words, the drives themselves are not faulty.
> >>
> >> The problem is, that Windows Millennium is not recognising them
> > correctly!!
> >>
> >> - And THAT'S what you need to fix.
> >>
> >> In your reply to Shane dated 27 May 2006 23:13 (on the old thread - I
> >> thought you were sticking to this one!) you go on about not having
Iomega
> >> Zip.
> >>
> >> Harry, you do have an Iomega Zip 100 drive - your B: drive - Remember?
> >>
> >> OK Harry - Next task, and for the moment let's just worry about the A:
> > drive
> >> problem :-
> >>
> >> Do exactly what Shane told you :-
> >>
> >> Boot into Safe Mode - go to Device Manager and under Disk Drives:,
> > 'Remove'
> >> (delete) the TWO Iomega Zip 100 entries. Then shut down and re-boot
into
> >> Normal Mode. - You should see the Zip drive being re-detected
> >> (enumerated)
> >> as the pc reboots.
> >>
> >> Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows
Explorer.
> > Can
> >> you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

webster72n
Sun May 28 19:22:38 CDT 2006


Just found out something important , Mart:

Floppy (B:) Properties shows "File system FAT"
and 4.85 MB used space
90.9 MB free space (when empty)
Capacity is 95.7 MB

Something doesn't look right in this picture.

Harry.


"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:u0zlQPrgGHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Thank you Mart.
> The Zip drive is internal and had at one time drive letter E, I believe,
but
> since my last format it is a Floppy B.
> Thought you may want to know before I go ahead with your instructions.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:Ouw8y4qgGHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > OK Harry, then will you now try the following please :-
> >
> > With the power off, unplug your Zip 100 Drive (which I assume to be a
USB
> > device), then power-up and boot into Safe Mode again.
> >
> > This time, 'Remove' (delete) your A: (floppy disk) drive in Device
Manager
> > AND for the sake of the exercise, also 'Remove' (delete) your Zip 100
> Drive.
> >
> > N.B. There *should* have only been ONE instance showing of the Zip !00
> this
> > time - and *maybe* - the Zip drive had acquired a different letter (G:?)
> in
> > Windows Explorer?
> >
> > For the moment don't worry - we'll pursue that later.
> >
> > Leaving your Zip drive disconnected, reboot into Normal Mode.
> >
> > Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows Explorer.
> Can
> > you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:OskYcPqgGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > You'll be rewarded eternally, Mart, for sticking with me on this one.
> > > There have been some misunderstandings and/or omissions, but what you
> are
> > > saying here is quite clear. I deleted those two entries for Iomega Zip
> and
> > > the order in Device Manager was reestablished, but Floppy A drive
still
> > > doesn't want to read (or write) and aks for a disk when one is already
> > > loaded. IOW still no change, I'm sorry to say.
> > >
> > > Harry.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > > news:uEFmO2hgGHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> Harry,
> > >>
> > >> > Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive simply don't respond under Windows,
> > >>
> > >> Precisely!! - They DO NOT RESPOND UNDER ***WINDOWS****
> > >>
> > >> BUT they do respond (correctly) under (Real Mode) DOS - and are
> > >> recognised
> > >> (correctly) in Real Mode DOS
> > >>
> > >> - In other words, the drives themselves are not faulty.
> > >>
> > >> The problem is, that Windows Millennium is not recognising them
> > > correctly!!
> > >>
> > >> - And THAT'S what you need to fix.
> > >>
> > >> In your reply to Shane dated 27 May 2006 23:13 (on the old thread - I
> > >> thought you were sticking to this one!) you go on about not having
> Iomega
> > >> Zip.
> > >>
> > >> Harry, you do have an Iomega Zip 100 drive - your B: drive -
Remember?
> > >>
> > >> OK Harry - Next task, and for the moment let's just worry about the
A:
> > > drive
> > >> problem :-
> > >>
> > >> Do exactly what Shane told you :-
> > >>
> > >> Boot into Safe Mode - go to Device Manager and under Disk Drives:,
> > > 'Remove'
> > >> (delete) the TWO Iomega Zip 100 entries. Then shut down and re-boot
> into
> > >> Normal Mode. - You should see the Zip drive being re-detected
> > >> (enumerated)
> > >> as the pc reboots.
> > >>
> > >> Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows
> Explorer.
> > > Can
> > >> you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
> > >>
> > >> Mart
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

webster72n
Sun May 28 19:28:37 CDT 2006



To tag onto my last reply:

The A-drive in Properties is listed as full, with no free space.
Migh that tell us something?



"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:u0zlQPrgGHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Thank you Mart.
> The Zip drive is internal and had at one time drive letter E, I believe,
but
> since my last format it is a Floppy B.
> Thought you may want to know before I go ahead with your instructions.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:Ouw8y4qgGHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > OK Harry, then will you now try the following please :-
> >
> > With the power off, unplug your Zip 100 Drive (which I assume to be a
USB
> > device), then power-up and boot into Safe Mode again.
> >
> > This time, 'Remove' (delete) your A: (floppy disk) drive in Device
Manager
> > AND for the sake of the exercise, also 'Remove' (delete) your Zip 100
> Drive.
> >
> > N.B. There *should* have only been ONE instance showing of the Zip !00
> this
> > time - and *maybe* - the Zip drive had acquired a different letter (G:?)
> in
> > Windows Explorer?
> >
> > For the moment don't worry - we'll pursue that later.
> >
> > Leaving your Zip drive disconnected, reboot into Normal Mode.
> >
> > Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows Explorer.
> Can
> > you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:OskYcPqgGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > You'll be rewarded eternally, Mart, for sticking with me on this one.
> > > There have been some misunderstandings and/or omissions, but what you
> are
> > > saying here is quite clear. I deleted those two entries for Iomega Zip
> and
> > > the order in Device Manager was reestablished, but Floppy A drive
still
> > > doesn't want to read (or write) and aks for a disk when one is already
> > > loaded. IOW still no change, I'm sorry to say.
> > >
> > > Harry.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > > news:uEFmO2hgGHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> Harry,
> > >>
> > >> > Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive simply don't respond under Windows,
> > >>
> > >> Precisely!! - They DO NOT RESPOND UNDER ***WINDOWS****
> > >>
> > >> BUT they do respond (correctly) under (Real Mode) DOS - and are
> > >> recognised
> > >> (correctly) in Real Mode DOS
> > >>
> > >> - In other words, the drives themselves are not faulty.
> > >>
> > >> The problem is, that Windows Millennium is not recognising them
> > > correctly!!
> > >>
> > >> - And THAT'S what you need to fix.
> > >>
> > >> In your reply to Shane dated 27 May 2006 23:13 (on the old thread - I
> > >> thought you were sticking to this one!) you go on about not having
> Iomega
> > >> Zip.
> > >>
> > >> Harry, you do have an Iomega Zip 100 drive - your B: drive -
Remember?
> > >>
> > >> OK Harry - Next task, and for the moment let's just worry about the
A:
> > > drive
> > >> problem :-
> > >>
> > >> Do exactly what Shane told you :-
> > >>
> > >> Boot into Safe Mode - go to Device Manager and under Disk Drives:,
> > > 'Remove'
> > >> (delete) the TWO Iomega Zip 100 entries. Then shut down and re-boot
> into
> > >> Normal Mode. - You should see the Zip drive being re-detected
> > >> (enumerated)
> > >> as the pc reboots.
> > >>
> > >> Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows
> Explorer.
> > > Can
> > >> you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
> > >>
> > >> Mart
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Mart
Sun May 28 20:07:30 CDT 2006

Just caught your latter two posts before I attached this to your first
reply, so I've re-jigged it slightly and now posting to your last response -
if you know what I mean!

Re: your 'Floppy (B:) Properties - That is the Zip drive and NOT a Floppy
Drive and ought not to have the letter B: - see later in my reply. The
figures seem about right for a !00 MB Zip Disk - except the drive letter -
but see later.

> The A-drive in Properties is listed as full, with
> no free space. Migh that tell us something?

Not sure yet - too many other deflections to overcome.

But back to my 'original', proposed response :-


Now that certainly makes life a little more interesting. (PS - doesn't it
just?)

If not a USB device, my 'guess' is that your internal Zip 100 drive is
therefore an ATAPI/IDE (or even a SCSI - God forbid) device, most likely
connected to one or other of the IDE controllers - So why the heck has it
been (re)designated the B: drive? It should be MUCH further down the
alphabetic chain - even Z: for Zip?? - but never the B: drive. The B: is
reserved for a second (true) floppy drive, which would normally be connected
to the 'spare' connector on the 'floppy ribbon cable.

Hmm.. it might also explain the Generic IDE DISK TYPE 46 mentioned in one of
your earlier posts - I tried to ignore that and it's come back to bite me.
Which now makes me also wonder whether you have also got an incorrect BIOS
setting too.

Jeepers Harry, the thick plottens!!

> .. but since my last format it is a Floppy B.

Format? - Format of what?

Anyway, before you proceed with my previous suggestion, go into DevMan (in
Normal Mode) and change the drive letter of the Zip drive from B: to
anything else which is spare - or as I suggested, Z: - for Zip!

That *might* even cure the problem(s?)

Bed time here Harry, I'll see how you're doing in the morning.


(PS - Definitely gone this time!!)

Mart


"webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23nYmeZrgGHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>
> To tag onto my last reply:
>
> The A-drive in Properties is listed as full, with no free space.
> Migh that tell us something?
>
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u0zlQPrgGHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Thank you Mart.
>> The Zip drive is internal and had at one time drive letter E, I believe,
> but
>> since my last format it is a Floppy B.
>> Thought you may want to know before I go ahead with your instructions.
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:Ouw8y4qgGHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > OK Harry, then will you now try the following please :-
>> >
>> > With the power off, unplug your Zip 100 Drive (which I assume to be a
> USB
>> > device), then power-up and boot into Safe Mode again.
>> >
>> > This time, 'Remove' (delete) your A: (floppy disk) drive in Device
> Manager
>> > AND for the sake of the exercise, also 'Remove' (delete) your Zip 100
>> Drive.
>> >
>> > N.B. There *should* have only been ONE instance showing of the Zip !00
>> this
>> > time - and *maybe* - the Zip drive had acquired a different letter
>> > (G:?)
>> in
>> > Windows Explorer?
>> >
>> > For the moment don't worry - we'll pursue that later.
>> >
>> > Leaving your Zip drive disconnected, reboot into Normal Mode.
>> >
>> > Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows
>> > Explorer.
>> Can
>> > you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
>> >
>> > Mart
>> >
>> >
>> > "webster72n" <webster72n(skipthis)@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:OskYcPqgGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > >
>> > > You'll be rewarded eternally, Mart, for sticking with me on this one.
>> > > There have been some misunderstandings and/or omissions, but what you
>> are
>> > > saying here is quite clear. I deleted those two entries for Iomega
>> > > Zip
>> and
>> > > the order in Device Manager was reestablished, but Floppy A drive
> still
>> > > doesn't want to read (or write) and aks for a disk when one is
>> > > already
>> > > loaded. IOW still no change, I'm sorry to say.
>> > >
>> > > Harry.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> > > news:uEFmO2hgGHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > >> Harry,
>> > >>
>> > >> > Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive simply don't respond under Windows,
>> > >>
>> > >> Precisely!! - They DO NOT RESPOND UNDER ***WINDOWS****
>> > >>
>> > >> BUT they do respond (correctly) under (Real Mode) DOS - and are
>> > >> recognised
>> > >> (correctly) in Real Mode DOS
>> > >>
>> > >> - In other words, the drives themselves are not faulty.
>> > >>
>> > >> The problem is, that Windows Millennium is not recognising them
>> > > correctly!!
>> > >>
>> > >> - And THAT'S what you need to fix.
>> > >>
>> > >> In your reply to Shane dated 27 May 2006 23:13 (on the old thread -
>> > >> I
>> > >> thought you were sticking to this one!) you go on about not having
>> Iomega
>> > >> Zip.
>> > >>
>> > >> Harry, you do have an Iomega Zip 100 drive - your B: drive -
> Remember?
>> > >>
>> > >> OK Harry - Next task, and for the moment let's just worry about the
> A:
>> > > drive
>> > >> problem :-
>> > >>
>> > >> Do exactly what Shane told you :-
>> > >>
>> > >> Boot into Safe Mode - go to Device Manager and under Disk Drives:,
>> > > 'Remove'
>> > >> (delete) the TWO Iomega Zip 100 entries. Then shut down and re-boot
>> into
>> > >> Normal Mode. - You should see the Zip drive being re-detected
>> > >> (enumerated)
>> > >> as the pc reboots.
>> > >>
>> > >> Put your WinMe Startup floppy in the A: drive and open Windows
>> Explorer.
>> > > Can
>> > >> you now 'see' (read) the contents of the Startup floppy?
>> > >>
>> > >> Mart
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Mike
Sun May 28 23:09:30 CDT 2006

Mart.

Just one quick comment. Later model internal ATAPI Zip drives were quite
often assigned the letter B as being a "super floppy", rather like the
Sony LS120 floppies could also be configured to appear as B.

> (PS - Definitely gone this time!!)

Which is where I'm heading again right now. D$$n cat got me up. <g>
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:

> Just caught your latter two posts before I attached this to your first
> reply, so I've re-jigged it slightly and now posting to your last
> response - if you know what I mean!
>
> Re: your 'Floppy (B:) Properties - That is the Zip drive and NOT a
> Floppy Drive and ought not to have the letter B: - see later in my
> reply. The figures seem about right for a !00 MB Zip Disk - except
> the drive letter - but see later.
>
>> The A-drive in Properties is listed as full, with
>> no free space. Migh that tell us something?
>
> Not sure yet - too many other deflections to overcome.
>
> But back to my 'original', proposed response :-
>
>
> Now that certainly makes life a little more interesting. (PS -
> doesn't it just?)
>
> If not a USB device, my 'guess' is that your internal Zip 100 drive is
> therefore an ATAPI/IDE (or even a SCSI - God forbid) device, most
> likely connected to one or other of the IDE controllers - So why the
> heck has it been (re)designated the B: drive? It should be MUCH
> further down the alphabetic chain - even Z: for Zip?? - but never the
> B: drive. The B: is reserved for a second (true) floppy drive, which
> would normally be connected to the 'spare' connector on the 'floppy
> ribbon cable.
> Hmm.. it might also explain the Generic IDE DISK TYPE 46 mentioned in
> one of your earlier posts - I tried to ignore that and it's come back
> to bite me. Which now makes me also wonder whether you have also got
> an incorrect BIOS setting too.
>
> Jeepers Harry, the thick plottens!!
>
>> .. but since my last format it is a Floppy B.
>
> Format? - Format of what?
>
> Anyway, before you proceed with my previous suggestion, go into
> DevMan (in Normal Mode) and change the drive letter of the Zip drive
> from B: to anything else which is spare - or as I suggested, Z: -
> for Zip!
> That *might* even cure the problem(s?)
>
> Bed time here Harry, I'll see how you're doing in the morning.
>
>
> (PS - Definitely gone this time!!)

webster72n
Sun May 28 23:53:35 CDT 2006


The plot thickens some more, Mart:
My 3 1/2 Floppy (A:) drive properties show the File system to be RAW,
the space "full" with 0 bytes recorded and 0 capacity.
It has a tools tab as did the B-dri