In today's NY Times there was a full page ad placed by Microsoft
suggesting that PCs should have both an antivirus scanner AND a
firewall. Apparently XP comes with a built in firewall - but I'm
running Me. This is my home PC with no network; connection to the ISP
is dialup.

I had been running Norton AV until recently but it was creating
problems: whenever the PC crashed and had to be restarted, Norton
would initiate an undesired dial-up. I discovered that uninstalling
NAV and then reinstalling it would fix this problem. Only thing is
NAV would need a live update that, with a dialup connection, would
take about an hour or so. I finally uninstalled NAV and replaced it
with the free AVG version 6.0 and that fixed the problem. I hope it's
protecting against viruses as well as it should.

So here my questions:

1. Is there a free version of a firewall that works trouble free
with WMe?

2. Why is it necessary to have both a firewall and AV?

Antivirus & Firewalls with WMe by ellen

ellen
Thu Aug 21 16:04:16 CDT 2003


>-----Original Message-----
>In today's NY Times there was a full page ad placed by
Microsoft
>suggesting that PCs should have both an antivirus scanner
AND a
>firewall. Apparently XP comes with a built in firewall -
but I'm
>running Me. This is my home PC with no network;
connection to the ISP
>is dialup.
>
>I had been running Norton AV until recently but it was
creating
>problems: whenever the PC crashed and had to be
restarted, Norton
>would initiate an undesired dial-up. I discovered that
uninstalling
>NAV and then reinstalling it would fix this problem.
Only thing is
>NAV would need a live update that, with a dialup
connection, would
>take about an hour or so. I finally uninstalled NAV and
replaced it
>with the free AVG version 6.0 and that fixed the
problem. I hope it's
>protecting against viruses as well as it should.
>
>So here my questions:
>
>1. Is there a free version of a firewall that works
trouble free
>with WMe?
>
>2. Why is it necessary to have both a firewall and AV?

Here is the definition of a firewall (I got it off the
net - I didn't write it)
A personal firewall (sometimes called a desktop firewall)
is a software application used to protect a single
Internet-connected computer from intruders. Personal
firewall protection is especially useful for users
with "always-on" connections such as DSL or cable modem.
Such connections use a static IP address that makes them
especially vulnerable to potential hackers. Often compared
to anti-virus applications, personal firewalls work in the
background at the device (link layer) level to protect the
integrity of the system from malicious computer code by
controlling Internet connections to and from a user's
computer, filtering inbound and outbound traffic, and
alerting the user to attempted intrusions.

Zonealarm offers a free firewall. Here is their address:

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/zap_za_grid.j
sp (You may have to copy and paste in two steps to get
both lines of the address in your browser address window.)

I personally use Norton but I know many people who use the
free AVG antivirus program and are pleased with it.



>.
>

Re: Antivirus & Firewalls with WMe by Mow

Mow
Fri Aug 22 08:32:17 CDT 2003

Etrust EZ Antivirus (ComputerAssociates) and ZA running on this machine
... AND , have never "temporarily disabled" either for any Win Update,
scandisk, defrag, software install, etc. They just don't interfere with
the OS as other AV's do. 'nuff said.

MowGreen
*-343-*
Never Forgotten

Pat Falango wrote:

> In today's NY Times there was a full page ad placed by Microsoft
> suggesting that PCs should have both an antivirus scanner AND a
> firewall. Apparently XP comes with a built in firewall - but I'm
> running Me. This is my home PC with no network; connection to the ISP
> is dialup.
>
> I had been running Norton AV until recently but it was creating
> problems: whenever the PC crashed and had to be restarted, Norton
> would initiate an undesired dial-up. I discovered that uninstalling
> NAV and then reinstalling it would fix this problem. Only thing is
> NAV would need a live update that, with a dialup connection, would
> take about an hour or so. I finally uninstalled NAV and replaced it
> with the free AVG version 6.0 and that fixed the problem. I hope it's
> protecting against viruses as well as it should.
>
> So here my questions:
>
> 1. Is there a free version of a firewall that works trouble free
> with WMe?
>
> 2. Why is it necessary to have both a firewall and AV?


Re: Antivirus & Firewalls with WMe by Mike

Mike
Fri Aug 22 08:37:26 CDT 2003

<ditto>
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mcmaltby@hotmail.com


Mow Green <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote:

> Etrust EZ Antivirus (ComputerAssociates) and ZA running on this machine
> ... AND , have never "temporarily disabled" either for any Win Update,
> scandisk, defrag, software install, etc. They just don't interfere with
> the OS as other AV's do. 'nuff said.



Re: Antivirus & Firewalls with WMe by Davee

Davee
Fri Aug 22 09:05:15 CDT 2003

Try this link
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/zonealarm/znalm_details.jsp
and choose Free Download.
I tried Kerio but preferred ZA because it is simpler to use.

Dave

Pat Falango wrote:


> In today's NY Times there was a full page ad placed by Microsoft
> suggesting that PCs should have both an antivirus scanner AND a
> firewall. Apparently XP comes with a built in firewall - but I'm
> running Me. This is my home PC with no network; connection to the ISP
> is dialup.
>
> I had been running Norton AV until recently but it was creating
> problems: whenever the PC crashed and had to be restarted, Norton
> would initiate an undesired dial-up. I discovered that uninstalling
> NAV and then reinstalling it would fix this problem. Only thing is
> NAV would need a live update that, with a dialup connection, would
> take about an hour or so. I finally uninstalled NAV and replaced it
> with the free AVG version 6.0 and that fixed the problem. I hope it's
> protecting against viruses as well as it should.
>
> So here my questions:
>
> 1. Is there a free version of a firewall that works trouble free
> with WMe?
>
> 2. Why is it necessary to have both a firewall and AV?


Re: Antivirus & Firewalls with WMe by Joan

Joan
Fri Aug 22 09:06:55 CDT 2003

I agree with you there Mow, I never have to disable eTrust to download and
install anything even Windows Update.
Joan

"Mow Green" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
news:%23ZPRSFLaDHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Etrust EZ Antivirus (ComputerAssociates) and ZA running on this machine
> ... AND , have never "temporarily disabled" either for any Win Update,
> scandisk, defrag, software install, etc. They just don't interfere with
> the OS as other AV's do. 'nuff said.
>
> MowGreen



Re: Antivirus & Firewalls with WMe by \(yet

\(yet
Fri Aug 22 09:30:50 CDT 2003

Your NAV problem is well known and Symantec has a fix:

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/8d071816eedd7cac88256c0e005a96e5/28600badb0e0db1d88256b4c00760ad1?OpenDocument&prod=Norton%20AntiVirus&ver=2003%20for%20Windows%202000/Me/98/XP&src=&pcode=nav&svy=&csm=no

"Pat Falango" <electrical-engineer@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:3f4526fa.188719810@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
> In today's NY Times there was a full page ad placed by Microsoft
> suggesting that PCs should have both an antivirus scanner AND a
> firewall. Apparently XP comes with a built in firewall - but I'm
> running Me. This is my home PC with no network; connection to the ISP
> is dialup.
>
> I had been running Norton AV until recently but it was creating
> problems: whenever the PC crashed and had to be restarted, Norton
> would initiate an undesired dial-up. I discovered that uninstalling
> NAV and then reinstalling it would fix this problem. Only thing is
> NAV would need a live update that, with a dialup connection, would
> take about an hour or so. I finally uninstalled NAV and replaced it
> with the free AVG version 6.0 and that fixed the problem. I hope it's
> protecting against viruses as well as it should.
>
> So here my questions:
>
> 1. Is there a free version of a firewall that works trouble free
> with WMe?
>
> 2. Why is it necessary to have both a firewall and AV?



Re: Antivirus & Firewalls with WMe by electrical-engineer

electrical-engineer
Fri Aug 22 15:23:03 CDT 2003

Thanks to you all for all the help and information.

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:33:19 GMT, electrical-engineer@operamail.com
(Pat Falango) wrote:

>In today's NY Times there was a full page ad placed by Microsoft
>suggesting that PCs should have both an antivirus scanner AND a
>firewall. Apparently XP comes with a built in firewall - but I'm
>running Me. This is my home PC with no network; connection to the ISP
>is dialup.
>
>I had been running Norton AV until recently but it was creating
>problems: whenever the PC crashed and had to be restarted, Norton
>would initiate an undesired dial-up. I discovered that uninstalling
>NAV and then reinstalling it would fix this problem. Only thing is
>NAV would need a live update that, with a dialup connection, would
>take about an hour or so. I finally uninstalled NAV and replaced it
>with the free AVG version 6.0 and that fixed the problem. I hope it's
>protecting against viruses as well as it should.
>
>So here my questions:
>
>1. Is there a free version of a firewall that works trouble free
>with WMe?
>
>2. Why is it necessary to have both a firewall and AV?


Re: Antivirus & Firewalls with WMe by siljaline

siljaline
Fri Aug 22 22:27:26 CDT 2003


"Pat Falango" <electrical-engineer@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:3f467b28.275818672@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
> Thanks to you all for all the help and information.
>
You're welcome ;)


--

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