New HDD and OS

I am fitting a new hard disk to my PC as a replacement for the original.
I wish to run win ME. The PC is an HP Pavilion and came with a Win 98
'recovery' cd. Along the way I have upgraded to Win ME with a non-OEM Win
ME 'upgrade' CD. I have all the necessary product keys and documentaion
still with both cd's. The product ID for the 98 cd includes the string -
OEM-.

My question is .... can I load ME directly onto the new HDD, and use the
'recovery' cd as proof of purchase ? OR, do I have to load Win 98, then
upgrade to Win ME, and will 98 load direct from the 'recovery' cd onto a
completely bare HDD ?

I could ghost an image of my current HDD and simply swap drives, but I
would prefer a fresh start as the PC has already done 4 years on 98
without a reformat or reload and I keep hearing that Win98 registry will
be in a dismal way.

Thanks for the advice.


--
aardvark (ard'-vark) a controversial animal with a long probing nose used
for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion.

Mart
Wed Jul 14 06:48:33 CDT 2004

Doc wrote:-

> My question is .... can I load ME directly onto the new HDD, and use the
> 'recovery' cd as proof of purchase ?

No.

> OR, do I have to load Win 98, then
> upgrade to Win ME, and will 98 load direct from the 'recovery' cd onto a
> completely bare HDD ?

'Fraid so - unless perhaps you have either:- MS Win95 CD (or floppies) or MS
Win3x floppies, but you will need the set, just one isn't enough.
(*May* even work with DOS 5 or 6 floppies - never tried it)

> I could ghost an image of my current HDD and simply swap drives, but I
> would prefer a fresh start as the PC has already done 4 years on 98
> without a reformat or reload and I keep hearing that Win98 registry will
> be in a dismal way.

Your choice, but may save lots of time <g> Good luck!

Mart


"Doc" <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:Xns9526E9D1253F4Aardvark@203.96.92.12...
> I am fitting a new hard disk to my PC as a replacement for the original.
> I wish to run win ME. The PC is an HP Pavilion and came with a Win 98
> 'recovery' cd. Along the way I have upgraded to Win ME with a non-OEM Win
> ME 'upgrade' CD. I have all the necessary product keys and documentaion
> still with both cd's. The product ID for the 98 cd includes the string -
> OEM-.
>
> My question is .... can I load ME directly onto the new HDD, and use the
> 'recovery' cd as proof of purchase ? OR, do I have to load Win 98, then
> upgrade to Win ME, and will 98 load direct from the 'recovery' cd onto a
> completely bare HDD ?
>
> I could ghost an image of my current HDD and simply swap drives, but I
> would prefer a fresh start as the PC has already done 4 years on 98
> without a reformat or reload and I keep hearing that Win98 registry will
> be in a dismal way.
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
>
> --
> aardvark (ard'-vark) a controversial animal with a long probing nose used
> for sniffing out the facts and stimulating thought and discussion.

Shane
Wed Jul 14 09:04:32 CDT 2004

> 'Fraid so - unless perhaps you have either:- MS Win95 CD (or floppies) or
MS
> Win3x floppies, but you will need the set, just one isn't enough.

If the floppies work with ME, Mart, you only need the first (can you imagine
having to insert 21 floppies as proof of eligibility???).


Shane

Mart
Wed Jul 14 10:29:09 CDT 2004

LOL Shane - but you certainly need them with Win3x, MOST (IIRC about 4 or 5
of the 7) floppies are required. Haven't actually tried it with 95 - don't
have those floppies, only the MS upgrade CD which works OK <vbg>

Mart


"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > 'Fraid so - unless perhaps you have either:- MS Win95 CD (or floppies)
or
> MS
> > Win3x floppies, but you will need the set, just one isn't enough.
>
> If the floppies work with ME, Mart, you only need the first (can you
imagine
> having to insert 21 floppies as proof of eligibility???).
>
>
> Shane
>
>

Shane
Wed Jul 14 10:54:22 CDT 2004


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> LOL Shane - but you certainly need them with Win3x, MOST (IIRC about 4 or
5
> of the 7) floppies are required.

That wouldn't surprise me. I haven't used a floppy as upgrade proof in 98,
ME (or later). Before that the first disk was sufficient, but it was almost
like the way any Ford key would open any other Ford once upon a time.

Meanwhile I wonder why I'm hanging on to 16-bit Win 95 - I don't believe
I'll ever install it again. Maybe I could swap it with someone for W2k Pro
<vbg>.


Shane

Mike
Wed Jul 14 11:02:10 CDT 2004

Mart,

Perhaps I ought to test it as I am in the middle of a clear out and just have
to hand a) DOS 5.0 (3 floppies) a) Windows 3.1 (6 floppies) and Windows 95
(mine though is 22 floppies rather than the 21 Shane mentioned).

That same clear out has brought to the surface enough copies of WordPerfect to
sink a ship (all on floppies of course). 1 x v5.0 (6 disks although the
program itself is on just one), 3 x v5.1 (6 disks each) [Corel didn't believe
in changing the version number expect for major revisions <g>], 1 x v5.2 (8
disks) and 1 x v6.0 (7 disks ) [All for DOS] and one copy of each of v6.0 and
v6.1 for Windows (12 floppies each).

I've yet to find though my 5¼" floppy containing WordPerfect v4.1 which was
the reason for the search. :-( [I have one PC here with an old 3½/5¼ floppy
drive]. Nor DOS 3.2 for which I was also looking.

Cheers,
--
Mike


Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.com> wrote:

> LOL Shane - but you certainly need them with Win3x, MOST (IIRC about
> 4 or 5 of the 7) floppies are required. Haven't actually tried it
> with 95 - don't have those floppies, only the MS upgrade CD which
> works OK <vbg>

Shane
Wed Jul 14 11:29:11 CDT 2004

> Perhaps I ought to test it as I am in the middle of a clear out and just
have
> to hand a) DOS 5.0 (3 floppies) a) Windows 3.1 (6 floppies) and Windows 95
> (mine though is 22 floppies rather than the 21 Shane mentioned).
>

Maybe plus the ERD, Mike? Though I am going on memory, anyway. And that's
failing rapidly as nicotine withdrawal becomes acute.


Shane

Mike
Wed Jul 14 12:00:05 CDT 2004

The set I have comprises a Setup Boot Disk and 22 setup floppies. Ah, of
course, I've just realised that my set is Win 95 OSR2 dated 24 August 96. My
Win 95 is on a CD.

Cheers,
--
Mike M


Shane <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe plus the ERD, Mike? Though I am going on memory, anyway. And
> that's failing rapidly as nicotine withdrawal becomes acute.

Mart
Wed Jul 14 13:52:08 CDT 2004

Mike wrote:- ..... I am in the middle of a clear out

Oh'Heck! Mike - if your not careful, you'll have me doing a search too.
Probably packed in amongst the XZ80 & ZX81. And He's back with a new folding
bike!! Just what on earth am I going to do with all this stuff? Enough
already <g>

And Shane wrote:- ...... I wonder why I'm hanging on to 16-bit Win 95

No encouragement - please. As soon as I get the stuff anywhere near the
bin, it sticks to my fingers <g>

Mart --- AKA Steptoe


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> The set I have comprises a Setup Boot Disk and 22 setup floppies. Ah, of
> course, I've just realised that my set is Win 95 OSR2 dated 24 August 96.
My
> Win 95 is on a CD.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Mike M
>
>
> Shane <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Maybe plus the ERD, Mike? Though I am going on memory, anyway. And
> > that's failing rapidly as nicotine withdrawal becomes acute.
>

Mike
Wed Jul 14 13:59:36 CDT 2004

Mart,

Clear out didn't mean "throw out". :-)
--
Mike M


Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.com> wrote:

> Mike wrote:- ..... I am in the middle of a clear out
>
> Oh'Heck! Mike - if your not careful, you'll have me doing a search
> too. Probably packed in amongst the XZ80 & ZX81. And He's back with a
> new folding bike!! Just what on earth am I going to do with all this
> stuff? Enough already <g>
>
> And Shane wrote:- ...... I wonder why I'm hanging on to 16-bit Win 95
>
> No encouragement - please. As soon as I get the stuff anywhere
> near the bin, it sticks to my fingers <g>

Mart
Wed Jul 14 14:11:16 CDT 2004

Ah.. It's a Northern thing <g>

Mart


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> Mart,
>
> Clear out didn't mean "throw out". :-)
> --
> Mike M
>
>
> Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike wrote:- ..... I am in the middle of a clear out
> >
> > Oh'Heck! Mike - if your not careful, you'll have me doing a search
> > too. Probably packed in amongst the XZ80 & ZX81. And He's back with a
> > new folding bike!! Just what on earth am I going to do with all this
> > stuff? Enough already <g>
> >
> > And Shane wrote:- ...... I wonder why I'm hanging on to 16-bit Win 95
> >
> > No encouragement - please. As soon as I get the stuff anywhere
> > near the bin, it sticks to my fingers <g>
>

Shane
Wed Jul 14 14:50:04 CDT 2004

> Probably packed in amongst the XZ80 & ZX81. And He's back with a new
folding
> bike!!

Do you mean Clive Sinclair? If so, glad to hear it!


Shane

Joan
Wed Jul 14 15:02:53 CDT 2004

<lol> No it just means from one disorganised pile to another one.
Joan

Mike M wrote:
> Mart,
>
> Clear out didn't mean "throw out". :-)
>

Mart
Wed Jul 14 15:10:32 CDT 2004

A STAR!! - Heck Shane, you have me tripping back into Nostalgia Land.

Mart


"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2llh5jFdmot5U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Probably packed in amongst the XZ80 & ZX81. And He's back with a new
> folding
> > bike!!
>
> Do you mean Clive Sinclair? If so, glad to hear it!
>
>
> Shane
>
>

Joan
Wed Jul 14 15:38:22 CDT 2004

<lol> Especially with some of those great games you could get on the ZX.
Joan

Mart wrote:
> A STAR!! - Heck Shane, you have me tripping back into Nostalgia
> Land.
>
> Mart

Shane
Wed Jul 14 19:05:28 CDT 2004

Heh. If only the C5 did the laundry too, it might have sold.


Shane


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> A STAR!! - Heck Shane, you have me tripping back into Nostalgia Land.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2llh5jFdmot5U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Probably packed in amongst the XZ80 & ZX81. And He's back with a new
> > folding
> > > bike!!
> >
> > Do you mean Clive Sinclair? If so, glad to hear it!
> >
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
>
>

Mart
Thu Jul 15 02:02:04 CDT 2004

Everyone's allowed one mistake - sadly, Clive wasn't!

Talk about 'kick a man when he's down' - the press hung him out to dry.

Mart



"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Heh. If only the C5 did the laundry too, it might have sold.
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ungve6daEHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > A STAR!! - Heck Shane, you have me tripping back into Nostalgia Land.
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2llh5jFdmot5U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Probably packed in amongst the XZ80 & ZX81. And He's back with a new
> > > folding
> > > > bike!!
> > >
> > > Do you mean Clive Sinclair? If so, glad to hear it!
> > >
> > >
> > > Shane
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Shane
Thu Jul 15 02:12:58 CDT 2004

He was a good Question Time panellist too.


Shane


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Everyone's allowed one mistake - sadly, Clive wasn't!
>
> Talk about 'kick a man when he's down' - the press hung him out to dry.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2lm04bFehkddU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Heh. If only the C5 did the laundry too, it might have sold.
> >
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:ungve6daEHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > A STAR!! - Heck Shane, you have me tripping back into Nostalgia
Land.
> > >
> > > Mart
> > >
> > >
> > > "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2llh5jFdmot5U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > Probably packed in amongst the XZ80 & ZX81. And He's back with a
new
> > > > folding
> > > > > bike!!
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean Clive Sinclair? If so, glad to hear it!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Shane
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>