I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and would
appreciate your opinions.

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Mark

Mark
Wed May 07 15:43:36 PDT 2008

You should get One Care's removal tool and remove that too.

Mark

"Ryka" <Ryka@live.com> wrote in message
news:O2YNuEJsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
>trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
>example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and would
>appreciate your opinions.


Re: Windows Live OneCare by t-4-2

t-4-2
Wed May 07 15:38:50 PDT 2008


Ryka;705646 Wrote:
> I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
> trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
> example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and
> would
> appreciate your opinions.
Hello Ryka,
Just one suggestion. PLEASE disable Live OneCare firewall. It will
shut down the Windows Firewall AND it does a terrible job replacing WIN
Firewall.


--
t-4-2

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Carey

Carey
Wed May 07 15:49:49 PDT 2008

Windows OneCare includes its own advanced version
of Windows Defender. You do not need an additional
third-party anti-spyware program.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

---------------------------------------------------------------

"Ryka" wrote:

I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and would
appreciate your opinions.


Re: Windows Live OneCare by DL

DL
Wed May 07 15:55:34 PDT 2008

Live OneCare hasnt received very good reviews
Personally I use MS Defender, Adaware & Spybot for malaware & a seperate
Internet security app

"Ryka" <Ryka@live.com> wrote in message
news:O2YNuEJsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
>trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
>example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and would
>appreciate your opinions.



Re: Windows Live OneCare by Nonny

Nonny
Wed May 07 16:29:26 PDT 2008

On Wed, 7 May 2008 17:49:49 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote:

>Windows OneCare includes its own advanced version
>of Windows Defender. You do not need an additional
>third-party anti-spyware program.

I sincerely doubt that. Do you have any cites to support your
statement?

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Bruce

Bruce
Wed May 07 18:15:28 PDT 2008

Ryka wrote:
> I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
> trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
> example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and
> would appreciate your opinions.


Yes, you'll need additional spyware protection. (Not to mention adding
a decent anti-virus application.)


--

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Re: Windows Live OneCare by joel406

joel406
Wed May 07 18:18:51 PDT 2008


AV-Comparatives does not rate One-Care very well at all. And simple
google serch for spyware app comparision will yeild results that "do
not" favor One Care one bit!

I am a MS fan boy, make no mistake about it.

But I read the reveiws and conduct my own test as well.

I do not recomend One-Care at all. And MS just sent me v2.0.

I use and recomend NOD32 for AV only, Comodo for firewall, Defender is
running(what the hell), Spybot, A-Squared free and the premium
SuperAntiSpyware.

I'm clean.

Good luck.


--
joel406

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Carey

Carey
Wed May 07 19:15:11 PDT 2008

I have three different computers running Windows OneCare.
In over 2 years, no system has been infected with malware,
spyware or viruses. I highly recommend using it.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

---------------------------------------------------------------

"joel406" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:014a6ee32530cee7ba5c0f51e54ff561@nntp-gateway.com...

AV-Comparatives does not rate One-Care very well at all. And simple
google serch for spyware app comparision will yeild results that "do
not" favor One Care one bit!

I am a MS fan boy, make no mistake about it.

But I read the reveiws and conduct my own test as well.

I do not recomend One-Care at all. And MS just sent me v2.0.

I use and recomend NOD32 for AV only, Comodo for firewall, Defender is
running(what the hell), Spybot, A-Squared free and the premium
SuperAntiSpyware.

I'm clean.

Good luck.


--
joel406

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Nonny

Nonny
Wed May 07 20:19:03 PDT 2008

On Wed, 7 May 2008 21:15:11 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote:

>I have three different computers running Windows OneCare.
>In over 2 years, no system has been infected with malware,
>spyware or viruses. I highly recommend using it.

I have two different computers - neither of them running Windows
OneCare.

In over FIVE years, no system has been infected with malware,
spyware or viruses. I highly recommend not using it.

Re: Windows Live OneCare by StephenB

StephenB
Thu May 08 01:36:57 PDT 2008

t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:

>
>Ryka;705646 Wrote:
>> I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
>> trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
>> example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and
>> would
>> appreciate your opinions.
>Hello Ryka,
>Just one suggestion. PLEASE disable Live OneCare firewall. It will
>shut down the Windows Firewall AND it does a terrible job replacing WIN
>Firewall.
Absolutely bad advice. Do not turn off the OneCare firewall or your status will
go red. The OneCare firewall provides 2 way protection with a fairly simple
configuration interface.
-steve
--
Stephen Boots
MVP Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
sboots@mvps.org

Re: Windows Live OneCare by StephenB

StephenB
Thu May 08 01:42:29 PDT 2008

Nonny <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 7 May 2008 21:15:11 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
><cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote:
>
>>I have three different computers running Windows OneCare.
>>In over 2 years, no system has been infected with malware,
>>spyware or viruses. I highly recommend using it.
>
>I have two different computers - neither of them running Windows
>OneCare.
>
>In over FIVE years, no system has been infected with malware,
>spyware or viruses. I highly recommend not using it.
As enjoyable as that reverse statement reads regarding your 2 computers that
have not been infected without the use of OneCare, it can't be used to support
the argument that OneCare is not good protection. :-)

OneCare is not perfect, no protection is. OneCare does a decent job of providing
protection. It is meant to be used alone and without additional 3rd party tools
for additional protection.
I recommend that you consider using a free online scanner on occasion of you
wish to validate the protection offered by OneCare.
Here are two possible choices:
http://www.eset.com/onlinescan/

http://www.ewido.net/en/onlinescan/

-steve


--
Stephen Boots
MVP Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
sboots@mvps.org

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Nonny

Nonny
Thu May 08 02:59:52 PDT 2008

On Thu, 08 May 2008 04:42:29 -0400, StephenB <sboots@mvps.org> wrote:

>OneCare is not perfect, no protection is. OneCare does a decent job of providing
>protection. It is meant to be used alone and without additional 3rd party tools
>for additional protection.

If it's not perfect - which I have no argument with - then why rely
on it alone? I think it's irresponsible of someone to tell folks that
One Care is all that they need.

I use AVG antivirus and malware protection, but I also depend on a
couple other malware scanners to periodically check my system.

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Alias

Alias
Thu May 08 03:08:41 PDT 2008

Nonny wrote:
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 04:42:29 -0400, StephenB <sboots@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>> OneCare is not perfect, no protection is. OneCare does a decent job of providing
>> protection. It is meant to be used alone and without additional 3rd party tools
>> for additional protection.
>
> If it's not perfect - which I have no argument with - then why rely
> on it alone? I think it's irresponsible of someone to tell folks that
> One Care is all that they need.
>
> I use AVG antivirus and malware protection, but I also depend on a
> couple other malware scanners to periodically check my system.

Our affectionate name for this program is NoCare.

Alias

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Frank

Frank
Thu May 08 07:46:34 PDT 2008

Alias wrote:

> Nonny wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 08 May 2008 04:42:29 -0400, StephenB <sboots@mvps.org> wrote:
>>
>>> OneCare is not perfect, no protection is. OneCare does a decent job
>>> of providing
>>> protection. It is meant to be used alone and without additional 3rd
>>> party tools
>>> for additional protection.
>>
>>
>> If it's not perfect - which I have no argument with - then why rely
>> on it alone? I think it's irresponsible of someone to tell folks that
>> One Care is all that they need.
>>
>> I use AVG antivirus and malware protection, but I also depend on a
>> couple other malware scanners to periodically check my system.
>
>
> Our affectionate name for this program is NoCare.
>
> Alias

Translation: your lying linux fanatical zealot name for that program is....
Frank

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Nonny

Nonny
Thu May 08 13:48:53 PDT 2008

On Thu, 08 May 2008 15:10:17 -0400, StephenB <sboots@mvps.org> wrote:

> OneCare (as several other suites out these days) is
>designed to be a full protection suite with no need to run other products.

AVG 8 does that as well... and it's free.

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Alias

Alias
Thu May 08 16:18:32 PDT 2008

Nonny wrote:
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 15:10:17 -0400, StephenB <sboots@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>> OneCare (as several other suites out these days) is
>> designed to be a full protection suite with no need to run other products.
>
> AVG 8 does that as well... and it's free.

And it isn't the wolf guarding the hen house as NoCare is. To add insult
to injury, you gotta pay for it!

Alias

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Frank

Frank
Thu May 08 16:25:33 PDT 2008

Alias wrote:
> Nonny wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 08 May 2008 15:10:17 -0400, StephenB <sboots@mvps.org> wrote:
>>
>>> OneCare (as several other suites out these days) is
>>> designed to be a full protection suite with no need to run other
>>> products.
>>
>>
>> AVG 8 does that as well... and it's free.
>
>
> And it isn't the wolf guarding the hen house as NoCare is. To add insult
> to injury, you gotta pay for it!
>
> Alias

OMG! Where does your little pea sized brain come up with this bullshit,
huh? Hell you don't even have Vista so why the heck are you still here?
Oh, I know...just to spread your lying FUD and linux lies.
What a vile POS you are!
Frank

Re: Windows Live OneCare by Bruce

Bruce
Thu May 08 17:53:12 PDT 2008

StephenB wrote:
>
> Absolutely bad advice.


Now so? It's much better to have a firewall installed locally and have
full control of it then it would be to entrust one's computer and
personal data to an uncaring corporate entity that cannot possibly know
one's specific needs.


> Do not turn off the OneCare firewall or your status will
> go red.


Only for the few seconds it takes to enable a real firewall...


> The OneCare firewall provides 2 way protection with a fairly simple
> configuration interface.


The same can be said for Vista's built-in firewall, particularly if one
adds the also free Sphinx's Vista Firewall Control
http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/. Why pay extra for a product that is less
than fully under one's own control?


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

Re: Windows Live OneCare by StephenB

StephenB
Fri May 09 01:45:28 PDT 2008

Bruce, if you wish to use a different firewall than the OneCare firewall - which
is a full two way firewall - use a different security solution as OneCare is not
a mix and match solution. That's why I said it was bad advice.
You apparently don't have experience with OneCare, hence the confusion.


Bruce Chambers <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote:

>StephenB wrote:
>>
>> Absolutely bad advice.
>
>
> Now so? It's much better to have a firewall installed locally and have
>full control of it then it would be to entrust one's computer and
>personal data to an uncaring corporate entity that cannot possibly know
>one's specific needs.
I'm not sure I understand this. OneCare provides a local firewall as part of its
package. It is configurable. If one holds disdain for corporate entities, one
should not be using OneCare or Windows, I would think.


>
>
>> Do not turn off the OneCare firewall or your status will
>> go red.
>
>
> Only for the few seconds it takes to enable a real firewall...
No, OneCare will continue to warn that you are at risk as OneCare is not a mix
and match solution.


>
>
>> The OneCare firewall provides 2 way protection with a fairly simple
>> configuration interface.
>
>
> The same can be said for Vista's built-in firewall, particularly if one
>adds the also free Sphinx's Vista Firewall Control
>http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/. Why pay extra for a product that is less
>than fully under one's own control?
That's fine and thanks for that link - I plan to check it out. The point is that
OneCare can't be partly enabled. The design requires that all components be
working together. So, if you don't like the firewall, that means you also have
to replace the rest of the suite with other solutions.
-steve

--
Stephen Boots
MVP Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
sboots@mvps.org

Re: Windows Live OneCare by smbdymf

smbdymf
Fri May 09 05:22:39 PDT 2008


"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:g001o6$aj8$1@aioe.org...
> Nonny wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 May 2008 15:10:17 -0400, StephenB <sboots@mvps.org> wrote:
>>
>>> OneCare (as several other suites out these days) is
>>> designed to be a full protection suite with no need to run other
>>> products.
>>
>> AVG 8 does that as well... and it's free.
>
> And it isn't the wolf guarding the hen house as NoCare is. To add insult
> to injury, you gotta pay for it!
>
> Alias

Did your welfare checks run out?