Vista SP1 DVD ?

Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?

Nonny
Fri May 09 10:36:13 PDT 2008

On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:22:27 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
<Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:

>Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?

You don't need a product key to install SP1.

Are you on a high-speed connection? It's a simple download.

Elkheights
Fri May 09 10:55:34 PDT 2008

Call Microsoft and tell them you are having a you are not receiving SP1 via
Windows Update. I did this also told them I was on dial up so the so the
alternative download was not viable. Takes way to long. They did send me
the disk free of charge.






"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5r2924tdpjvbp7ikcim1qehnu7452fngk1@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:22:27 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>>Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>>SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>>that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>
> You don't need a product key to install SP1.
>
> Are you on a high-speed connection? It's a simple download.

Brian
Fri May 09 11:56:11 PDT 2008


"Elkheights" <elkheights@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:O5FRk3fsIHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Call Microsoft and tell them you are having a you are not receiving SP1
> via
> Windows Update. I did this also told them I was on dial up so the so the
> alternative download was not viable. Takes way to long. They did send me
> the disk free of charge.

I think the OP is after an integrated SP1 that can do a clean install of
Vista with the service pack already included
I'd like a 64-bit one :-)

>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5r2924tdpjvbp7ikcim1qehnu7452fngk1@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:22:27 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>>>SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>>>that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>>
>> You don't need a product key to install SP1.
>>
>> Are you on a high-speed connection? It's a simple download.
>

Daze
Fri May 09 13:00:14 PDT 2008

Brian:

You are correct. Others seem to be misunderstanding me. Slipstreaming
SP1 in my original Vista DVD sounds quite problematical, if not
impossible, and I would like to have a Vista DVD with the service pack
integrated into it. There should be some way to get one for a minimal
charge by those who need one. For instance, if I've lost or damaged my
installation DVD, but still have my product key, is there no way to
obtain a new DVD without paying full price for a new product key?

Daze

Brian W wrote:
>
> "Elkheights" <elkheights@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:O5FRk3fsIHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Call Microsoft and tell them you are having a you are not receiving
>> SP1 via
>> Windows Update. I did this also told them I was on dial up so the so the
>> alternative download was not viable. Takes way to long. They did
>> send me
>> the disk free of charge.
>
> I think the OP is after an integrated SP1 that can do a clean install of
> Vista with the service pack already included
> I'd like a 64-bit one :-)
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:5r2924tdpjvbp7ikcim1qehnu7452fngk1@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:22:27 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>>>> SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>>>> that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>>>
>>> You don't need a product key to install SP1.
>>>
>>> Are you on a high-speed connection? It's a simple download.
>>
>

Daze
Fri May 09 13:00:52 PDT 2008

You misunderstand me. Please see my reply to Brian.

Elkheights wrote:
> Call Microsoft and tell them you are having a you are not receiving SP1 via
> Windows Update. I did this also told them I was on dial up so the so the
> alternative download was not viable. Takes way to long. They did send me
> the disk free of charge.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5r2924tdpjvbp7ikcim1qehnu7452fngk1@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:22:27 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>>> SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>>> that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>>
>> You don't need a product key to install SP1.
>>
>> Are you on a high-speed connection? It's a simple download.
>

Daze
Fri May 09 13:00:34 PDT 2008

You misunderstand me. Please see my reply to Brian.

Nonny wrote:
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:22:27 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>> SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>> that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>
> You don't need a product key to install SP1.
>
> Are you on a high-speed connection? It's a simple download.

Nonny
Fri May 09 13:16:32 PDT 2008

On Fri, 09 May 2008 13:00:14 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
<Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:

>You are correct. Others seem to be misunderstanding me. Slipstreaming
>SP1 in my original Vista DVD sounds quite problematical, if not
>impossible, and I would like to have a Vista DVD with the service pack
>integrated into it. There should be some way to get one for a minimal
>charge by those who need one.

Nope.

You need to slipstream.

Daze
Fri May 09 14:51:13 PDT 2008

Can you, then, explain how best to slipstream SP3 into the original DVD?

---------------------------

Nonny wrote:
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 13:00:14 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>> You are correct. Others seem to be misunderstanding me. Slipstreaming
>> SP1 in my original Vista DVD sounds quite problematical, if not
>> impossible, and I would like to have a Vista DVD with the service pack
>> integrated into it. There should be some way to get one for a minimal
>> charge by those who need one.
>
> Nope.
>
> You need to slipstream.

Nonny
Fri May 09 14:59:22 PDT 2008

On Fri, 09 May 2008 14:51:13 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
<Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:

>Can you, then, explain how best to slipstream SP3 into the original DVD?

My apolgies... slipstreaming to Vista is not currently supported.

I probably thought I was replying to an XP group.

Mark
Fri May 09 16:49:33 PDT 2008

Here is the link for what you need.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx

Mark

"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
news:Od7vgDfsIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista SP1
> DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key that came
> with one's non-SP Vista DVD?

Daze
Fri May 09 19:00:27 PDT 2008

That's interesting, and I'll save the link, but unfortunately what I'm
looking for is 32-bit on DVD, which isn't offered there. But thanks for
passing on the link, anyway.

------------------------

Mark wrote:
> Here is the link for what you need.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx
>
> Mark
>
> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
> news:Od7vgDfsIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista SP1
>> DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key that came
>> with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>
>

Mark
Sat May 10 08:38:48 PDT 2008

That link is for both.

Mark

"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
news:OzUWfGksIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> That's interesting, and I'll save the link, but unfortunately what I'm
> looking for is 32-bit on DVD, which isn't offered there. But thanks for
> passing on the link, anyway.
>
> ------------------------
>
> Mark wrote:
>> Here is the link for what you need.
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>> news:Od7vgDfsIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>>> SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>>> that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>>

Daze
Sat May 10 11:23:18 PDT 2008

No. That link offers *alternate media*. In the case of 32-bit, it offers
only CD's, which come in a 5-CD set. Not 32-bit on DVD.



Mark wrote:
> That link is for both.
>
> Mark
>
> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
> news:OzUWfGksIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> That's interesting, and I'll save the link, but unfortunately what I'm
>> looking for is 32-bit on DVD, which isn't offered there. But thanks for
>> passing on the link, anyway.
>>
>> ------------------------
>>
>> Mark wrote:
>>> Here is the link for what you need.
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>>> news:Od7vgDfsIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>>>> SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>>>> that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>

Mark
Sat May 10 11:30:51 PDT 2008

Looks like you are right. If I were you and had the full retail version I'd
call Microsoft. I got one from my PC vendor for $20.00.

Mark

"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
news:O45itrssIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> No. That link offers *alternate media*. In the case of 32-bit, it offers
> only CD's, which come in a 5-CD set. Not 32-bit on DVD.
>
>
>
> Mark wrote:
>> That link is for both.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>> news:OzUWfGksIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> That's interesting, and I'll save the link, but unfortunately what I'm
>>> looking for is 32-bit on DVD, which isn't offered there. But thanks for
>>> passing on the link, anyway.
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> Here is the link for what you need.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>>>> news:Od7vgDfsIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>>>>> SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>>>>> that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>>

Brian
Sat May 10 12:00:06 PDT 2008


"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
news:erN4M9gsIHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Brian:
>
> You are correct. Others seem to be misunderstanding me. Slipstreaming SP1
> in my original Vista DVD sounds quite problematical, if not impossible,
> and I would like to have a Vista DVD with the service pack integrated into
> it. There should be some way to get one for a minimal charge by those who
> need one. For instance, if I've lost or damaged my installation DVD, but
> still have my product key, is there no way to obtain a new DVD without
> paying full price for a new product key?

It was possible to order an anytime upgrade disk, but MS stopped that as
well unless you buy a new licence :-(

Donald
Sat May 10 13:02:52 PDT 2008

On Fri, 09 May 2008 15:16:32 -0500, Nonny <nonnymoose@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 09 May 2008 13:00:14 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
><Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>>You are correct. Others seem to be misunderstanding me. Slipstreaming
>>SP1 in my original Vista DVD sounds quite problematical, if not
>>impossible, and I would like to have a Vista DVD with the service pack
>>integrated into it. There should be some way to get one for a minimal
>>charge by those who need one.
>
>Nope.
>
>You need to slipstream.

Sorry, nonny, but there is no way to create a "slipstreamed" copy of
Vista including the Service Pack without using a third-party tool.

Microsoft tells us that the facility MIGHT be in Service Pack 2, but
not before.

Those who want copies of Vista with the Service Pack incorporated will
have to purchase them.


Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the correct thread and article.
================================================

AJR
Sat May 10 13:05:14 PDT 2008

Daze - The product key is unique to a particular DVD. In interested in
SP1 - why not just install SP1?

"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
news:O45itrssIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> No. That link offers *alternate media*. In the case of 32-bit, it offers
> only CD's, which come in a 5-CD set. Not 32-bit on DVD.
>
>
>
> Mark wrote:
>> That link is for both.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>> news:OzUWfGksIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> That's interesting, and I'll save the link, but unfortunately what I'm
>>> looking for is 32-bit on DVD, which isn't offered there. But thanks for
>>> passing on the link, anyway.
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> Here is the link for what you need.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>>>> news:Od7vgDfsIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>>>>> SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>>>>> that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>>

Nonny
Sat May 10 13:24:18 PDT 2008

On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:02:52 -0700, Donald L McDaniel
<orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote:

>>You need to slipstream.
>
>Sorry, nonny, but there is no way to create a "slipstreamed" copy of
>Vista including the Service Pack without using a third-party tool.

You're too late <g>. I found that out just a short while after that
post.

Daze
Sat May 10 13:38:10 PDT 2008



Brian W wrote:

> It was possible to order an anytime upgrade disk, but MS stopped that as
> well unless you buy a new licence :-(
>

Yes. That's what I had been counting on and then discovered that it
couldn't be had that way. That's what prompted me to initiate this
thread, hoping for a new solution to the problem of somehow getting an
integrated DVD for cheap.

Daze
Sat May 10 13:42:51 PDT 2008



AJR wrote:
> Daze - The product key is unique to a particular DVD. In interested in
> SP1 - why not just install SP1?

It is nice to have an integrated DVD, don't you think?

If one needs to use one's original, non-SP Vista DVD for a repair of
one's Vista SP1 system, the disc will not contain the updated operating
system files required for correctly doing the repair.

Donald
Sat May 10 14:19:04 PDT 2008

On Sat, 10 May 2008 16:05:14 -0400, "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote:

>Daze - The product key is unique to a particular DVD. In interested in
>SP1 - why not just install SP1?

Actually, its not unique to a particular DVD. It IS unique to a
particular _installation_ _image_.


>"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>news:O45itrssIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> No. That link offers *alternate media*. In the case of 32-bit, it offers
>> only CD's, which come in a 5-CD set. Not 32-bit on DVD.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark wrote:
>>> That link is for both.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>>> news:OzUWfGksIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> That's interesting, and I'll save the link, but unfortunately what I'm
>>>> looking for is 32-bit on DVD, which isn't offered there. But thanks for
>>>> passing on the link, anyway.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>>> Here is the link for what you need.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Od7vgDfsIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Does anyone yet know of anywhere or anyway that one can obtain a Vista
>>>>>> SP1 DVD, for a nominal charge, that one can use with the product key
>>>>>> that came with one's non-SP Vista DVD?
>>>
>

Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the correct thread and article.
================================================

Daze
Sat May 10 14:27:28 PDT 2008



Donald L McDaniel wrote:
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 16:05:14 -0400, "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Daze - The product key is unique to a particular DVD. In interested in
>> SP1 - why not just install SP1?
>
> Actually, its not unique to a particular DVD. It IS unique to a
> particular _installation_ _image_.

True.

Nonny
Sat May 10 14:36:31 PDT 2008

On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:42:51 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
<Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:

>
>
>AJR wrote:
>> Daze - The product key is unique to a particular DVD. In interested in
>> SP1 - why not just install SP1?
>
>It is nice to have an integrated DVD, don't you think?
>
>If one needs to use one's original, non-SP Vista DVD for a repair of
>one's Vista SP1 system, the disc will not contain the updated operating
>system files required for correctly doing the repair.

Not only that... if it works the same as XP, it won't even let you
initiate a repair. You will get a message that the OS on the DVD is
older than the one on the hard drive.

Daze
Sat May 10 18:44:39 PDT 2008

That is *exactly* my primary concern and *exactly* my main reason for
wanting a Vista installation DVD with SP1 integrated into it.

Nonny wrote:
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:42:51 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>>
>> AJR wrote:
>>> Daze - The product key is unique to a particular DVD. In interested in
>>> SP1 - why not just install SP1?
>> It is nice to have an integrated DVD, don't you think?
>>
>> If one needs to use one's original, non-SP Vista DVD for a repair of
>> one's Vista SP1 system, the disc will not contain the updated operating
>> system files required for correctly doing the repair.
>
> Not only that... if it works the same as XP, it won't even let you
> initiate a repair. You will get a message that the OS on the DVD is
> older than the one on the hard drive.

Nonny
Sat May 10 21:19:38 PDT 2008

On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:44:39 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
<Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:

>That is *exactly* my primary concern and *exactly* my main reason for
>wanting a Vista installation DVD with SP1 integrated into it.

You'll have to buy it at retail somewhere. And it will have to be the
same version that you now have installed.

Might be simpler to buy some imaging software and an external USB hard
drive.

>
>Nonny wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:42:51 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> AJR wrote:
>>>> Daze - The product key is unique to a particular DVD. In interested in
>>>> SP1 - why not just install SP1?
>>> It is nice to have an integrated DVD, don't you think?
>>>
>>> If one needs to use one's original, non-SP Vista DVD for a repair of
>>> one's Vista SP1 system, the disc will not contain the updated operating
>>> system files required for correctly doing the repair.
>>
>> Not only that... if it works the same as XP, it won't even let you
>> initiate a repair. You will get a message that the OS on the DVD is
>> older than the one on the hard drive.

Mark
Sun May 11 01:45:44 PDT 2008

I heard from many different people that slipstreaming with vlite 1.1.6 works
flawlessly.

http://www.labnol.org/software/tutorials/slipstream-vista-sp1-bootable-windows-vista-dvd-integrated/2750/

Here's a forum thread that cinfirms that it works.

http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about102033.html

Mark

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:nrsc2413afkv0s8eijrr6dms4eqjcupo5b@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:44:39 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>>That is *exactly* my primary concern and *exactly* my main reason for
>>wanting a Vista installation DVD with SP1 integrated into it.
>
> You'll have to buy it at retail somewhere. And it will have to be the
> same version that you now have installed.
>
> Might be simpler to buy some imaging software and an external USB hard
> drive.
>
>>
>>Nonny wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:42:51 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> AJR wrote:
>>>>> Daze - The product key is unique to a particular DVD. In interested
>>>>> in
>>>>> SP1 - why not just install SP1?
>>>> It is nice to have an integrated DVD, don't you think?
>>>>
>>>> If one needs to use one's original, non-SP Vista DVD for a repair of
>>>> one's Vista SP1 system, the disc will not contain the updated operating
>>>> system files required for correctly doing the repair.
>>>
>>> Not only that... if it works the same as XP, it won't even let you
>>> initiate a repair. You will get a message that the OS on the DVD is
>>> older than the one on the hard drive.
>

Brian
Sun May 11 03:05:51 PDT 2008


"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
news:OAtGE3tsIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>
> Brian W wrote:
>
>> It was possible to order an anytime upgrade disk, but MS stopped that as
>> well unless you buy a new licence :-(
>>
>
> Yes. That's what I had been counting on and then discovered that it
> couldn't be had that way. That's what prompted me to initiate this thread,
> hoping for a new solution to the problem of somehow getting an integrated
> DVD for cheap.

The easiest (cheapest) way I can think of is to buy a generic OEM Vista
Basic 64-bit. As you have a key already for a different version, use that as
all the discs are identical.
Or find a friend who has a 64-bit retail/generic OEM disk!

Daze
Sun May 11 09:23:02 PDT 2008

How in the world would that get me what I want, which is a 32-bit Vista
installation DVD with integrated SP1?



Brian W wrote:
>
> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
> news:OAtGE3tsIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> Brian W wrote:
>>
>>> It was possible to order an anytime upgrade disk, but MS stopped that
>>> as well unless you buy a new licence :-(
>>>
>>
>> Yes. That's what I had been counting on and then discovered that it
>> couldn't be had that way. That's what prompted me to initiate this
>> thread, hoping for a new solution to the problem of somehow getting an
>> integrated DVD for cheap.
>
> The easiest (cheapest) way I can think of is to buy a generic OEM Vista
> Basic 64-bit. As you have a key already for a different version, use
> that as all the discs are identical.
> Or find a friend who has a 64-bit retail/generic OEM disk!
>

Daze
Sun May 11 09:24:30 PDT 2008

Now *that's* finally some interesting and potentially useful news! I'll
look into that. Thanks for passing those links along, Mark!

Daze



Mark wrote:
> I heard from many different people that slipstreaming with vlite 1.1.6 works
> flawlessly.
>
> http://www.labnol.org/software/tutorials/slipstream-vista-sp1-bootable-windows-vista-dvd-integrated/2750/
>
> Here's a forum thread that cinfirms that it works.
>
> http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about102033.html
>
> Mark
>
> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:nrsc2413afkv0s8eijrr6dms4eqjcupo5b@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:44:39 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>
>>> That is *exactly* my primary concern and *exactly* my main reason for
>>> wanting a Vista installation DVD with SP1 integrated into it.
>> You'll have to buy it at retail somewhere. And it will have to be the
>> same version that you now have installed.
>>
>> Might be simpler to buy some imaging software and an external USB hard
>> drive.
>>
>>> Nonny wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:42:51 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>>>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> AJR wrote:
>>>>>> Daze - The product key is unique to a particular DVD. In interested
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> SP1 - why not just install SP1?
>>>>> It is nice to have an integrated DVD, don't you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> If one needs to use one's original, non-SP Vista DVD for a repair of
>>>>> one's Vista SP1 system, the disc will not contain the updated operating
>>>>> system files required for correctly doing the repair.
>>>> Not only that... if it works the same as XP, it won't even let you
>>>> initiate a repair. You will get a message that the OS on the DVD is
>>>> older than the one on the hard drive.
>
>

Brian
Sun May 11 10:33:03 PDT 2008


"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
news:eWuzLN4sIHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> How in the world would that get me what I want, which is a 32-bit Vista
> installation DVD with integrated SP1?

Sorry, I was getting confused! You could buy a Vista Basic 32-bit DVD with
SP1.

>
>
> Brian W wrote:
>>
>> "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
>> news:OAtGE3tsIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian W wrote:
>>>
>>>> It was possible to order an anytime upgrade disk, but MS stopped that
>>>> as well unless you buy a new licence :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. That's what I had been counting on and then discovered that it
>>> couldn't be had that way. That's what prompted me to initiate this
>>> thread, hoping for a new solution to the problem of somehow getting an
>>> integrated DVD for cheap.
>>
>> The easiest (cheapest) way I can think of is to buy a generic OEM Vista
>> Basic 64-bit. As you have a key already for a different version, use that
>> as all the discs are identical.
>> Or find a friend who has a 64-bit retail/generic OEM disk!
>>

Donald
Sun May 11 11:21:40 PDT 2008

On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:23:02 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
<Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:

>How in the world would that get me what I want, which is a 32-bit Vista
>installation DVD with integrated SP1?

Just face it, "Daze", Vista SP1 currently has NO BUILT-IN ability
(i.e., "the code is NOT AVAILABLE to the user from Microsoft") to be
slipstreamed by the user with a previous copy of Vista.

Microsoft itself has told us this. Additionally, Microsoft has said
that it will not be available until SP2, IF it is ever going to be
available. NOTE that that is a big "IF". It MAY be made available,
but there is no guarantee that it will.

If you want one now, the only suggestion I have is that you purchase
one.

Or use a third-party utility, such as "vlite".


Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the correct thread and article.
================================================

Daze
Sun May 11 15:33:43 PDT 2008

Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
apparently vLite actually fits the bill.

I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.



Donald L McDaniel wrote:
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:23:02 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>> How in the world would that get me what I want, which is a 32-bit Vista
>> installation DVD with integrated SP1?
>
> Just face it, "Daze", Vista SP1 currently has NO BUILT-IN ability
> (i.e., "the code is NOT AVAILABLE to the user from Microsoft") to be
> slipstreamed by the user with a previous copy of Vista.
>
> Microsoft itself has told us this. Additionally, Microsoft has said
> that it will not be available until SP2, IF it is ever going to be
> available. NOTE that that is a big "IF". It MAY be made available,
> but there is no guarantee that it will.
>
> If you want one now, the only suggestion I have is that you purchase
> one.
>
> Or use a third-party utility, such as "vlite".
>
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
> ================================================

Dave
Mon May 12 12:05:20 PDT 2008

Mark wrote:
> I heard from many different people that slipstreaming with vlite
> 1.1.6 works flawlessly.
>
> http://www.labnol.org/software/tutorials/slipstream-vista-sp1-bootable-windows-vista-dvd-integrated/2750/
>
> Here's a forum thread that cinfirms that it works.
>
> http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about102033.html
>
> Mark
>

I've just tried it and it does work. The interface is a bit confusing
but it does work. It took me about 2 hours in total. Vista Ultimate 32.
Checked the finished iso by doing a clean installing and all went well.

Daze
Mon May 12 12:22:41 PDT 2008



Dave wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> I heard from many different people that slipstreaming with vlite
>> 1.1.6 works flawlessly.
>>
>> http://www.labnol.org/software/tutorials/slipstream-vista-sp1-bootable-windows-vista-dvd-integrated/2750/
>>
>> Here's a forum thread that cinfirms that it works.
>>
>> http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about102033.html
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
> I've just tried it and it does work. The interface is a bit confusing
> but it does work. It took me about 2 hours in total. Vista Ultimate 32.
> Checked the finished iso by doing a clean installing and all went well.

Dave:

I've been trying it, too, and all seems to be going well. I've not had
occasion yet to actually use it, though, so your input in that regard is
appreciated. Unfortunately, one can only slipstream one version of Vista
per image, but one can also rebuild it to eliminate the other,
non-slipstreamed versions of Vista and end up with a smaller final image
for burning. Since what I wanted was an integrated of Vista SP1 on DVD
primarily for use in repairing other people's PCs, I need a slipstreamed
DVD for each version of Vista, and thus intend to make four (Ultimate,
Business, Premium, and Basic) in order to be ready for anything. Time
consuming, but do-able.

Daze

Donald
Mon May 12 12:45:26 PDT 2008

On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:33:43 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
<Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:

>Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
>slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
>apparently vLite actually fits the bill.
>
>I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
>then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
>any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
>and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
>vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
>so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.

Just keep in mind that this is a violation of the Vista EULA (what
vLite does is referred to as "backward-engineering"), and you will
receive no support from Microsoft if you do it.


Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the correct thread and article.
================================================

Mark
Mon May 12 17:09:21 PDT 2008

If Microsoft supported us to begin with, by offering a fix for slipsteaming
or at the very least let us download a slipstreamed Vista package we
wouldn't have to take these measures.

Mark

"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:hd7h24tj3q5memvt4pel7uh80f1c2q016f@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:33:43 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>
>>Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
>>slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
>>apparently vLite actually fits the bill.
>>
>>I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
>>then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
>>any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
>>and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
>>vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
>>so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.
>
> Just keep in mind that this is a violation of the Vista EULA (what
> vLite does is referred to as "backward-engineering"), and you will
> receive no support from Microsoft if you do it.
>
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
> ================================================

Daze
Mon May 12 18:24:13 PDT 2008

Exactly.


Mark wrote:
> If Microsoft supported us to begin with, by offering a fix for slipsteaming
> or at the very least let us download a slipstreamed Vista package we
> wouldn't have to take these measures.
>
> Mark
>
> "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:hd7h24tj3q5memvt4pel7uh80f1c2q016f@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:33:43 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
>>> slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
>>> apparently vLite actually fits the bill.
>>>
>>> I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
>>> then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
>>> any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
>>> and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
>>> vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
>>> so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.
>> Just keep in mind that this is a violation of the Vista EULA (what
>> vLite does is referred to as "backward-engineering"), and you will
>> receive no support from Microsoft if you do it.
>>
>>
>> Donald L McDaniel
>> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
>> ================================================
>
>

mike
Mon May 12 19:05:50 PDT 2008

Mark wrote:
> If Microsoft supported us to begin with, by offering a fix for slipsteaming
> or at the very least let us download a slipstreamed Vista package we
> wouldn't have to take these measures.
>
> Mark
>
> "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:hd7h24tj3q5memvt4pel7uh80f1c2q016f@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:33:43 -0700, "Daze N. Knights"
>> <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. vLite, here I come, which is a fine solution for me. I'm happy to
>>> slipstream it myself, just so I have a reasonably easy way to do it, and
>>> apparently vLite actually fits the bill.
>>>
>>> I used Autostreamer to upgrade my XP-Pro disc to an XP-Pro SP2 disc, and
>>> then to upgrade my XP-Pro SP2 disc to an XP-Pro SP3 disc, all without
>>> any trouble at all. But Autostreamer won't do the same for the Vista,
>>> and I knew of no alternative before hearing (from Mark, here) about
>>> vLite having this capability. So, that's a fine way to go for me, just
>>> so it actually, in the end, works; and it sounds like it will.
>> Just keep in mind that this is a violation of the Vista EULA (what
>> vLite does is referred to as "backward-engineering"), and you will
>> receive no support from Microsoft if you do it.


And your point is????
Unless you stay firmly on the narrow yellow brick road that MS has
mapped out for THEIR benefit, there ain't no help anyway.
God help you if you want to do anything "interesting".
>>
>>
>> Donald L McDaniel
>> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
>> ================================================
>
>


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