I am going to buy a oem edition of windows vista.
What part of the PC can be changed with a oem.
Like the motherboard, processor, ram etc
Thanks
Arjun

Re: Oem Question by Colin

Colin
Sun Jul 06 22:36:50 PDT 2008

"Arjun" <ajfrod@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I am going to buy a oem edition of windows vista.
> What part of the PC can be changed with a oem.
> Like the motherboard, processor, ram etc
> Thanks
> Arjun


Why are you buying an OEM pack? The OEM (System Builder) License that comes
with the pack is not for end users. It is for system builders assembling a
system for sale to a customer. It does not grant the purchaser the right to
use the software, only install it on a system for sale. Read the disclaimer
on the reseller's website. NewEgg's states:

"Use of this OEM System Builder Channel software is subject to the terms of
the Microsoft OEM System Builder License. This software is intended for
pre-installation on a new personal computer for resale. This OEM System
Builder Channel software requires the assembler to provide end user support
for the Windows software and cannot be transferred to another computer once
it is installed. To acquire Windows software with support provided by
Microsoft please see our full package "Retail" product offerings."

You can read the OEM license here:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx


Re: Oem Question by wrat

wrat
Sun Jul 06 22:45:47 PDT 2008

In article <CDE282FA-9302-460B-B7C6-A33170B8C016@microsoft.com>,
Colin Barnhorst <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Why are you buying an OEM pack? The OEM (System Builder) License that comes
>with the pack is not for end users. It is for system builders assembling a
>system for sale to a customer. It does not grant the purchaser the right to
>use the software, only install it on a system for sale. Read the disclaimer
>on the reseller's website. NewEgg's states:
>

He's buying it because it's half the price of the retail box.

So he can sell the system to himself for a penny.


Re: Oem Question by Colin

Colin
Sun Jul 06 23:16:52 PDT 2008

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
news:g4saib$4lt$1@reader1.panix.com...
> In article <CDE282FA-9302-460B-B7C6-A33170B8C016@microsoft.com>,
> Colin Barnhorst <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Why are you buying an OEM pack? The OEM (System Builder) License that
>>comes
>>with the pack is not for end users. It is for system builders assembling
>>a
>>system for sale to a customer. It does not grant the purchaser the right
>>to
>>use the software, only install it on a system for sale. Read the
>>disclaimer
>>on the reseller's website. NewEgg's states:
>>
>
> He's buying it because it's half the price of the retail box.
>
> So he can sell the system to himself for a penny.
>

We all know the the price is the whole reason. But a sale is an exchange of
goods or services between two parties for consideration. A person cannot be
his own customer. Unless, of course, one is schizophrenic in which case
they send you to one of those places where they let you hide your own Easter
eggs.


Re: Oem Question by p

p
Mon Jul 07 01:06:27 PDT 2008

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> "the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:g4saib$4lt$1@reader1.panix.com...
>> In article <CDE282FA-9302-460B-B7C6-A33170B8C016@microsoft.com>,
>> Colin Barnhorst <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why are you buying an OEM pack? The OEM (System Builder) License
>>> that comes
>>> with the pack is not for end users. It is for system builders
>>> assembling a
>>> system for sale to a customer. It does not grant the purchaser the
>>> right to
>>> use the software, only install it on a system for sale. Read the
>>> disclaimer
>>> on the reseller's website. NewEgg's states:
>>>
>>
>> He's buying it because it's half the price of the retail box.
>>
>> So he can sell the system to himself for a penny.
>>
>
> We all know the the price is the whole reason. But a sale is an
> exchange of goods or services between two parties for consideration. A
> person cannot be his own customer. Unless, of course, one is
> schizophrenic in which case they send you to one of those places where
> they let you hide your own Easter eggs.

So, your logic would lead to the conclusion that a systems builder is
not allowed to build a system for himself. Not very logical when you
look at it that way, is it?

P

Re: Oem Question by wrat

wrat
Mon Jul 07 05:17:47 PDT 2008

In article <85B75DF9-92D5-4577-90C0-BF95E8490B0C@microsoft.com>,
Colin Barnhorst <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>A person cannot be his own customer.

Sure he can. There's a whole subject in accounting that deals
with exactly that case. Google "transfer pricing".


Re: Oem Question by Gordon

Gordon
Mon Jul 07 05:49:09 PDT 2008

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
news:g4t1hb$o9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
> In article <85B75DF9-92D5-4577-90C0-BF95E8490B0C@microsoft.com>,
> Colin Barnhorst <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>A person cannot be his own customer.
>
> Sure he can. There's a whole subject in accounting that deals
> with exactly that case. Google "transfer pricing".
>


That's not QUITE what transfer pricing is about......


Re: Oem Question by Colin

Colin
Mon Jul 07 06:15:20 PDT 2008

"p" <p@nospam.cn> wrote in message news:g4siq3$6b7$2@aioe.org...
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> "the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:g4saib$4lt$1@reader1.panix.com...
>>> In article <CDE282FA-9302-460B-B7C6-A33170B8C016@microsoft.com>,
>>> Colin Barnhorst <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why are you buying an OEM pack? The OEM (System Builder) License that
>>>> comes
>>>> with the pack is not for end users. It is for system builders
>>>> assembling a
>>>> system for sale to a customer. It does not grant the purchaser the
>>>> right to
>>>> use the software, only install it on a system for sale. Read the
>>>> disclaimer
>>>> on the reseller's website. NewEgg's states:
>>>>
>>>
>>> He's buying it because it's half the price of the retail box.
>>>
>>> So he can sell the system to himself for a penny.
>>>
>>
>> We all know the the price is the whole reason. But a sale is an exchange
>> of goods or services between two parties for consideration. A person
>> cannot be his own customer. Unless, of course, one is schizophrenic in
>> which case they send you to one of those places where they let you hide
>> your own Easter eggs.
>
> So, your logic would lead to the conclusion that a systems builder is not
> allowed to build a system for himself. Not very logical when you look at
> it that way, is it?
>
> P


That is the case. That's not saying they don't but the system builder
license does not grant the right to use the software. Only installing it on
a system for sale to a customer.


Re: Oem Question by Colon

Colon
Mon Jul 07 07:25:33 PDT 2008

"Arjun" <ajfrod@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:44a7946d-c68e-4785-b519-52f3ec0905db@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>I am going to buy a oem edition of windows vista.
> What part of the PC can be changed with a oem.
> Like the motherboard, processor, ram etc
> Thanks
> Arjun


I don't know about the other components, but my personal experience is that
if you replace the motherboard Microsoft will require you to purchase
another license.


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RE: Oem Question by oscar

oscar
Mon Jul 07 07:41:02 PDT 2008

Arjun,

You can't change the motherboard. (Although some claim to have worked around
that.)

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"Arjun" wrote:

> I am going to buy a oem edition of windows vista.
> What part of the PC can be changed with a oem.
> Like the motherboard, processor, ram etc
> Thanks
> Arjun
>

Re: Oem Question by Gordon

Gordon
Mon Jul 07 07:50:29 PDT 2008

"oscar" <oscar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Arjun,
>
> You can't change the motherboard.

Would you like to give an official MS site that says that, which is viewable
by the End User?


Re: Oem Question by p

p
Mon Jul 07 07:54:31 PDT 2008

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> "p" <p@nospam.cn> wrote in message news:g4siq3$6b7$2@aioe.org...
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>> "the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g4saib$4lt$1@reader1.panix.com...
>>>> In article <CDE282FA-9302-460B-B7C6-A33170B8C016@microsoft.com>,
>>>> Colin Barnhorst <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are you buying an OEM pack? The OEM (System Builder) License
>>>>> that comes
>>>>> with the pack is not for end users. It is for system builders
>>>>> assembling a
>>>>> system for sale to a customer. It does not grant the purchaser the
>>>>> right to
>>>>> use the software, only install it on a system for sale. Read the
>>>>> disclaimer
>>>>> on the reseller's website. NewEgg's states:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He's buying it because it's half the price of the retail box.
>>>>
>>>> So he can sell the system to himself for a penny.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We all know the the price is the whole reason. But a sale is an
>>> exchange of goods or services between two parties for consideration.
>>> A person cannot be his own customer. Unless, of course, one is
>>> schizophrenic in which case they send you to one of those places
>>> where they let you hide your own Easter eggs.
>>
>> So, your logic would lead to the conclusion that a systems builder is
>> not allowed to build a system for himself. Not very logical when you
>> look at it that way, is it?
>>
>> P
>
>
> That is the case. That's not saying they don't but the system builder
> license does not grant the right to use the software. Only installing
> it on a system for sale to a customer.

I think the key word is "intended" in the quote you originally posted.
Just because something is intended for something doesn't make