Is there any way to change the amount of disk space used by the System
Restore system for storing Restore Points? Or to delete restore
points?

I want to try to ensure that I keep the restore point made immediately
prior to updating to SP1, and that Point is the oldest one listed. I'm
afraid that I'm about to try one thing too many that will cause Vista
to delete that Point in order to remain within its set total size
allotment.

Vista Ultimate, if that makes any difference.

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RE: Changing Restore Point settings, files? by BurrWalnut

BurrWalnut
Fri Mar 28 12:09:01 PDT 2008

When you install SP1 all the restore points will be removed, except the new
one made immediately prior to the installation.

The disk space allocated to system restore in Vista is larger than that in
XP because it includes Shadow Copying. Unfortunately, you canâ??t have system
restore without shadow copying. To reduce the amount of space, open an
elevated command prompt by clicking the Windows Orb (Start) > All Programs >
Accessories and right-click Command Prompt, then â??Run as Administratorâ??.

To display the current parameters type (or copy and paste) â??vssadmin list
shadowstorageâ?? (not the quotes but the spaces) and press Enter.

To reduce (or increase) the disk space allocated, type (or copy and paste)
â??vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c: /maxsize=3GBâ?? (not the quotes
but the spaces) and press Enter. This example assumes changing the space on
drive C to 3GB. You may find that all the restore points have been removed
after resizing so make sure the computer is behaving itself before reducing
the space allocation. Also, make a manual restore point immediately after
resizing.


"Jeffrey Kaplan" wrote:

> Is there any way to change the amount of disk space used by the System
> Restore system for storing Restore Points? Or to delete restore
> points?
>
> I want to try to ensure that I keep the restore point made immediately
> prior to updating to SP1, and that Point is the oldest one listed. I'm
> afraid that I'm about to try one thing too many that will cause Vista
> to delete that Point in order to remain within its set total size
> allotment.
>
> Vista Ultimate, if that makes any difference.
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
>
> Tips for the Innocent Bystander: 37. If mysterious strangers appear at
> the birth or adoption of your child and make epic proclamations about
> him/her, listen.
>

Re: Changing Restore Point settings, files? by Jeffrey

Jeffrey
Fri Mar 28 12:31:50 PDT 2008

Previously on microsoft.public.windows.vista.general, BurrWalnut said:

> When you install SP1 all the restore points will be removed, except the new
> one made immediately prior to the installation.

SP1 is already there. What I want to ensure is that the restore point
made for its install remains there as I continue trying to get my AV to
work, as each install/removal of software involved here is creating a
new Restore Point.

> The disk space allocated to system restore in Vista is larger than that in
> XP because it includes Shadow Copying. Unfortunately, you canâ??t have system
> restore without shadow copying. To reduce the amount of space, open an
> elevated command prompt by clicking the Windows Orb (Start) > All Programs >
> Accessories and right-click Command Prompt, then â??Run as Administratorâ??.
>
> To display the current parameters type (or copy and paste) â??vssadmin list
> shadowstorageâ?? (not the quotes but the spaces) and press Enter.
>
> To reduce (or increase) the disk space allocated, type (or copy and paste)
> â??vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c: /maxsize=3GBâ?? (not the quotes
> but the spaces) and press Enter. This example assumes changing the space on
> drive C to 3GB. You may find that all the restore points have been removed
> after resizing so make sure the computer is behaving itself before reducing
> the space allocation. Also, make a manual restore point immediately after
> resizing.

Ok, so to do what I want here I should list the parameters, and then
increase the size allotted. I can then reduce it back down when I get
the problem resolved. Thank you.

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Re: Changing Restore Point settings, files? by JD

JD
Sat Mar 29 17:25:38 PDT 2008

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:45:51 -0400, Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org>
wrote:

>Is there any way to change the amount of disk space used by the System
>Restore system for storing Restore Points? Or to delete restore
>points?
>
>I want to try to ensure that I keep the restore point made immediately
>prior to updating to SP1, and that Point is the oldest one listed. I'm
>afraid that I'm about to try one thing too many that will cause Vista
>to delete that Point in order to remain within its set total size
>allotment.
>
>Vista Ultimate, if that makes any difference.


Yes, How do I set a restore point? The help file is worthless. I am
about to try SP1 and want an option.

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Re: Changing Restore Point settings, files? by Bob

Bob
Sat Mar 29 17:31:26 PDT 2008

Go to the Backup and Restore center and check the option to create a restore
point.

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"JD" <ham@123.net> wrote in message
news:sdntu351b04ckof2vd1k31obp836nnsgbv@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:45:51 -0400, Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org>
> wrote:
>
>>Is there any way to change the amount of disk space used by the System
>>Restore system for storing Restore Points? Or to delete restore
>>points?
>>
>>I want to try to ensure that I keep the restore point made immediately
>>prior to updating to SP1, and that Point is the oldest one listed. I'm
>>afraid that I'm about to try one thing too many that will cause Vista
>>to delete that Point in order to remain within its set total size
>>allotment.
>>
>>Vista Ultimate, if that makes any difference.
>
>
> Yes, How do I set a restore point? The help file is worthless. I am
> about to try SP1 and want an option.
>
> ---
>
> $$$$$$$$$$$
> Yours truly, Johnny Dollar!


Re: Changing Restore Point settings, files? by Jeffrey

Jeffrey
Wed Apr 02 12:34:56 PDT 2008

Previously on microsoft.public.windows.vista.general, BurrWalnut said:

> To reduce (or increase) the disk space allocated, type (or copy and paste)
> â??vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c: /maxsize=3GBâ?? (not the quotes
> but the spaces) and press Enter. This example assumes changing the space on
> drive C to 3GB. You may find that all the restore points have been removed
> after resizing so make sure the computer is behaving itself before reducing
> the space allocation. Also, make a manual restore point immediately after
> resizing.

I had doubled the space available for restore points (from 15G to 30G).
And my restore point to roll back to just prior to SP1 is GONE! Yes, I
checked the box to show restore points older than 5 days.

Everything else I've tried to get Kaspersky to work has failed.

What is my next-best method to roll back to Vista without SP1? I have
a system restore disk (home made from a pre-loaded app from the
computer vendor) and a backup I made myself of my Program Files,
ProgramData, Users and a few other locations. But given a choice, I'd
rather not have to wipe and reinstall things.

Alternately, is there another AV and firewall solution I can try that
will work? Kaspersky, ESET and Avast have all failed. Avast worked
prior to updating Vista to SP1. And for past misbehaving, bloatish and
system hogging issues, I do not like Norton, McAfee, or ZoneAlarm.

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