neil
Sun Aug 17 09:00:58 PDT 2008
Using a caddy is a good option so long as the drive is OK, I don't think you
are sure it is yet...? Otherwise you will buy the caddy only to find the
drive doesn't work. If it is OK then after the files are recovered you can
format the drive in windows and use it to either transfer files or perhaps a
backup.
Another option to try to establish if the drive is working would be to try
booting using a floppy disk, connect only the suspect drive and boot using
the floppy.
You can create it from windows if you have a floppy disk drive. (if not then
this advice is useless)
Once the floppy has booted you will have a dos prompt:
i.e. A:\>
type C:\ (press return)
type dir (press return)
a list of files and folders should be listed, if so then the drive is
working. If there is an error message and the files/folders are not listed
then the drive isn't working.
Neil
"franko" <knarfi.sorg@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f212e88f-8693-414c-8a51-0a5dbf92bf28@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 17, 7:42 am, "neil" <neilp67_@_hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Try here for Samsung link
>> settings
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/support/userguide/Support_...
>> Try here for Seagate link
>> settings
http://www.seagate.com/images/support/en/us/u5_family_1.gif
>>
>> see if this helps
>> Neil"frankg" <frankgr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:bb1a3002-c3ee-4873-ad26-76ca22b6e946@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Aug 16, 5:24 pm, "JS" <@> wrote:
>> >> Are both drives (master and slave) made by the same manufacturer?
>> >> And if so by who?
>>
>> >> JS
>>
>> >> "franko" <knarfi.s...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:73b8e1a0-4b76-4a8d-a8f6-ff93e35fdd6e@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Aug 16, 2:51 pm, "neil" <n...@some.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >> Assuming you have set the master/slave links in the right positions
>> >> >> then
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> need to look at the drive using "disk managements". Right click "my
>> >> >> computer" and select "manage", In the left hand pane select disk
>> >> >> management
>> >> >> and see if the old drive is seen there. If it is then you can
>> >> >> "explore"
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> there or allocate a drive letter.
>> >> >> If not then check the master/slave link again. What ribbon are you
>> >> >> connecting to, IDE0 or IDE1in other words the hard drive ribbon or
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> CD/DVD ribbon. You would normally set the second drive as slave.
>>
>> >> >> Neil"franko" <knarfi.s...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:62dde939-cb97-4f35-b35c-d26c5465e2c9@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> > My daughters old Dell 8200 desktop quit - we dont know what
>> >> >> > happened
>> >> >> > but we suspect she left it on during a thunderstorm and perhaps
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > was a tremendous jolt that the surge protector couldn't handle -
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > sure though. The original symptom was 'it's dead' - no fan, no
>> >> >> > hum,
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > beep, no led, no boot to bios, nothing at all...dead.
>>
>> >> >> > My suspicion was the psuu so i connected a known good one which
>> >> >> > provided power to the mb (fan worked but still no beeps, no
>> >> >> > booting,
>> >> >> > no anything). So then I reseated all the cards and all the memory
>> >> >> > sticks. Nothing. I exchanged the display card. Nothing.Removed
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > heatsink and reseated the cpu . Nothing.
>>
>> >> >> > We accepted that the computer is probabbly toast but wanted to
>> >> >> > try
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > recover some data
>>
>> >> >> > Then I took the hard drive (an old 40gb ATA) out and installed
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > another computer as a second (slave) drive. It was tough to get
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > machine to boot but I moved the master/slave jumpers around a
>> >> >> > little
>> >> >> > on both hd 's and eventually got past the bios etc to Windows.
>>
>> >> >> > * Problem
>> >> >> > is that this 2nd hard drive isnt seen by windows XP although it
>> >> >> > IS
>> >> >> > seen in the Bios.
>>
>> >> >> > I've tried via My Computer , Windows Explorer , device manager).
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > guess usually one has to format it to be seen
>> >> >> > but of course I cant do that if 1.) i want the data and 2)
>> >> >> > windows
>> >> >> > doesnt find it
>>
>> >> >> > Is there a solution?
>> >> >> > Alternatively I thought of maybe buying an enclosure and trying
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > read it via a USB connection as an external.
>>
>> >> >> > Thanks for any help
>> >> >> > F
>>
>> >> > Thanks Neil.
>> >> > I did try to find it in Disk management but it is not seen there
>> >> > either.
>> >> > It is connected on the same ribbon cable - it is daisy chained.
>> >> > The master/slave jumper pin settings must be ok because 1) when they
>> >> > were in other positions the Bios couldnt see them as such and now it
>> >> > does find both
>>
>> > No the master is Samsung and the slave is Seagate
>
> Re the caddy - that is one of the points I was asking about in my
> original post - "is it a viable idea to try"
>
> and thank you for the links to the jumper positions.
>
> I will need some time to work with all this info
>
> Thanks again
> F