System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots
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Hi,
I've been trying to solve this for almost two weeks now, but I'm =
completely at a loss of what else to try. I'll give the symptoms, what =
I've already tried, and what my lines of thought and troubleshooting =
have been thus far..
First, very rarely, my system will spontaneously reboot. This does not =
happen often.. Maybe four or five times in the past two months. I =
generally leave my PC on 24/7, and it never seems to reboot while I'm at =
it and actively working, only when idle while I do other things. I've =
also noticed that sometimes, after it reboots, it does not recognize my =
SATA drives, on the regular ATA drive and DVDRW drive. (I have one WD =
200GB ATA drive which is my primary boot drive, one WD 350GB and one =
Maxtor 500GB SATA drive, and a Sony DVDRW ATA drive.) I also recently =
had another WD 350GB SATA drive that failed and was replaced by the one =
I'm using now. All this may have just been coincidence or related, but =
for now I'm considering it a more minor issue that is more a symptom of =
the next..
While the previous is spontaneous and unpredictable, the system freezes =
are like clockwork, and only in certain conditions (although I'm not =
entirely sure what the exact conditions are, else I'd know better where =
to look for the problem): When playing some games, most notably ones =
that have some sort of Direct-X and/or 3-D capabilities, sometime =
between 10 and 20 minutes of gameplay, it just freezes my entire system. =
Even the soft power switch stops working; I have to unplug it or force a =
hard reset. It does not seem to affect other types of games.. There are =
a few I can play for hours without problem, but it does seem to rely on =
the game using the 3-D modeling capabilities of Direct-X and my video =
card. (Also note that OpenGL games, or games where I can switch them to =
OpenGL instead of Direct-X, do not freeze, hence why I'm not ruling out =
a Direct-X problem.)
I also do not think it is in the memory, mainboard or the video card and =
video subsystem; I can have very intensive graphics applications and =
editing going on for hours, including 3-D modeling via Blender and =
ray-tracing with POV-Ray, without a single problem or freeze. It only =
seems to happen in full-screen 3-D type games that initialize Direct-X. =
Games that freeze so far include Sims 2, Gore, Delta Force, Doom 2, =
Empire Earth 2, and Warcraft 3. Most other games work fine, as do =
non-game applications--even those that use Direct-X.
I've tried just about every diagnostic, test and burn-in procedure, =
application, etc, that I could think of or find, including one which I =
do not know them name of, but I got when I worked as a tech for a =
mail-order pc vendor which runs a 48-hour intensive burn-in test. (Which =
includes firing up the Direct-X 3-D engine and runs around a maze of 3-D =
objects for an hour.) That all passed without detecting a single =
problem. I've also recently totally updated every driver and software I =
can find updates for and installed Windows XP Service Pack 3 and =
Direct-X 9.0c in an attempt to isolate or eliminate the problem. I've =
tried looking through debug logs, alerts, and any other kind of log or =
record I can find to see if I could find anything else they have in =
common prior to the freeze. All to no avail.
I've also disabled, shut down, terminated and otherwise trimmed my =
running tasks down to the bare essentials for system functioning before =
trying to run any problem games. Likewise, I've tried everything I could =
think of to force and reproduce the problem in a controlled environment, =
but could not. Finally, I've replaced various hardware with identical =
hardware (I have another almost identical system), but the problem =
persists.
Here's my system information:
Windows XP Home Edition, updated to Service Pack 3 and the latest =
drivers and updates available from the Microsoft and other hardware =
websites. (Build 2600.xpsp.080413-2111/SP3)
System mfg is listed as RS480_, with Phoenix-Award ACPI BIOS, v6.00PG.
Mainboard is ECS/EliteGroup RS480-M (I do not have the stats handy.. Can =
Google it if needed. On-board video disabled; I am using the on-board =
Realtek AC97 sound, however.)
CPU is the AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz.
I have 1GB RAM installed, and a 2GB pagefile on the main drive. (I've =
already described my drives, above.)
Video card is MSI NX6600 (nVidia GeForce 6600 PCI Express, x16).. =
ForceWare v169.21, 256MB RAM, Video BIOS 5.43.02.57.00.
Direct-X 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904), and I do not have the OpenGL version =
info handy.
Case is a unbranded case, with three cooling fans, and I've sampled the =
airflow and taken temp readings at various points, so I do not think =
it's simply overheating. I do not overclock the CPU or anything else. =
Most everything in the BIOS is set at their defaults, as well, nothing =
fancy.
Please let me know if I can provide anything else to help figure out and =
fix the problem.. I have lots of diagnostic, testing, and information =
software; I know how to read and test (short of any equipment like an =
oscilloscope, which I do not have) chips, etc; and many years working =
with PC's, both hardware and software (but this problem eludes me.. =
sigh.) So just ask.
Any thoughts, suggestions, ideas to try, _anything_, would be greatly =
appreciated.
Regards,
--=20
C. Mitchell
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been trying to solve this for =
almost two weeks=20
now, but I'm completely at a loss of what else to try. I'll give the =
symptoms,=20
what I've already tried, and what my lines of thought and =
troubleshooting have=20
been thus far..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First, very rarely, my system will =
spontaneously=20
reboot. This does not happen often.. Maybe four or five times =
in the=20
past two months. I generally leave my PC on 24/7, and it never seems to =
reboot=20
while I'm at it and actively working, only when idle while I do other =
things.=20
I've also noticed that sometimes, after it reboots, it does not =
recognize my=20
SATA drives, on the regular ATA drive and DVDRW drive. (I have one =
WD 200GB=20
ATA drive which is my primary boot drive, one WD 350GB and one Maxtor =
500GB SATA=20
drive, and a Sony DVDRW ATA drive.) I also recently had another WD =
350GB=20
SATA drive that failed and was replaced by the one I'm using now. All =
this may=20
have just been coincidence or related, but for now I'm considering it a =
more=20
minor issue that is more a symptom of the next..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While the previous is spontaneous and=20
unpredictable, the system freezes are like clockwork, and only in =
certain=20
conditions (although I'm not entirely sure what the exact conditions =
are, else=20
I'd know better where to look for the problem): When playing some games, =
most=20
notably ones that have some sort of Direct-X and/or 3-D capabilities, =
sometime=20
between 10 and 20 minutes of gameplay, it just freezes my entire system. =
Even=20
the soft power switch stops working; I have to unplug it or force a hard =
reset.=20
It does not seem to affect other types of games.. There are a few I can =
play for=20
hours without problem, but it does seem to rely on the game using the =
3-D=20
modeling capabilities of Direct-X and my video card. (Also note that =
OpenGL=20
games, or games where I can switch them to OpenGL instead of =
Direct-X, do=20
not freeze, hence why I'm not ruling out a Direct-X =
problem.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also do not think it is in the =
memory, mainboard=20
or the video card and video subsystem; I can have very intensive =
graphics=20
applications and editing going on for hours, including 3-D modeling via =
Blender=20
and ray-tracing with POV-Ray, without a single problem or freeze. It =
only seems=20
to happen in full-screen 3-D type games that initialize Direct-X. Games =
that=20
freeze so far include Sims 2, Gore, Delta Force, Doom 2, Empire Earth 2, =
and=20
Warcraft 3. Most other games work fine, as do non-game =
applications--even those=20
that use Direct-X.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've tried just about every diagnostic, =
test and=20
burn-in procedure, application, etc, that I could think of or find, =
including=20
one which I do not know them name of, but I got when I worked as a tech =
for a=20
mail-order pc vendor which runs a 48-hour intensive burn-in test. (Which =
includes firing up the Direct-X 3-D engine and runs around a maze of 3-D =
objects=20
for an hour.) That all passed without detecting a single problem. I've =
also=20
recently totally updated every driver and software I can find updates =
for and=20
installed Windows XP Service Pack 3 and Direct-X 9.0c in an attempt =
to=20
isolate or eliminate the problem. I've tried looking through debug logs, =
alerts,=20
and any other kind of log or record I can find to see if I could find =
anything=20
else they have in common prior to the freeze. All to no =
avail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've also disabled, shut down, =
terminated and=20
otherwise trimmed my running tasks down to the bare essentials for =
system=20
functioning before trying to run any problem games. Likewise, I've tried =
everything I could think of to force and reproduce the problem in=20
a controlled environment, but could not. Finally, I've replaced =
various=20
hardware with identical hardware (I have another almost identical =
system), but=20
the problem persists.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's my system =
information:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Windows XP Home Edition, updated to =
Service Pack 3=20
and the latest drivers and updates available from the Microsoft and =
other=20
hardware websites. (Build 2600.xpsp.080413-2111/SP3)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>System mfg is listed as RS480_, with =
Phoenix-Award=20
ACPI BIOS, v6.00PG.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mainboard is ECS/EliteGroup RS480-M (I =
do not have=20
the stats handy.. Can Google it if needed. On-board video disabled; I am =
using=20
the on-board Realtek AC97 sound, however.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CPU is the AMD Athlon 64 Processor =
3000+, MMX,=20
3DNow, ~1.8GHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have 1GB RAM installed, and a 2GB =
pagefile on the=20
main drive. (I've already described my drives, above.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Video card is MSI NX6600 (nVidia =
GeForce 6600 PCI=20
Express, x16).. ForceWare v169.21, 256MB RAM, Video BIOS=20
5.43.02.57.00.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Direct-X 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904), and I =
do=20
not have the OpenGL version info handy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Case is a unbranded case, with three =
cooling fans,=20
and I've sampled the airflow and taken temp readings at various points, =
so I do=20
not think it's simply overheating. I do not overclock the CPU or =
anything else.=20
Most everything in the BIOS is set at their defaults, as well, nothing=20
fancy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please let me know if I can provide =
anything else=20
to help figure out and fix the problem.. I have lots of diagnostic, =
testing, and=20
information software; I know how to read and test (short=20
of any equipment like an oscilloscope, which I do not=20
have) chips, etc; and many years working with PC's, both hardware =
and=20
software (but this problem eludes me.. sigh.) So just ask.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts, suggestions, ideas to =
try,=20
_anything_, would be greatly appreciated.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,<BR>-- <BR>C. Mitchell</DIV>
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Automatic sign-in to Messenger - problem
XP Home, SP2
Windows Live Messenger 8.1 (MSN Messenger).
Although I have the options checked to allow automatic sign-in when
Windows loads and to "remember me" (remember name & password), it does
not work, I have to manually open the program and enter my name &
password each time I want to use it. The problem started months ago
when I was using MSN Messenger 7. I have since uninstalled 7 and
installed 8, but the problem persists.
Out of curiousity, I tested Windows Messenger 4.7, and the same
problem occurs - automatic sign in does not work, and name & pw are
not remembered.
** I have two Windows user accounts, both Admin level accounts. This
problem occurs only for one of those accounts.
Because the problem exists in both messenger programs and only occurs
for one Windows user, I think the problem is within Windows itself
somewhere which is why I am not sending this to the MSN Messenger
group.
Help/suggestions please? Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808185
Kernel data inpage error
I'm running windows XP SR3 on HP media centre pc.
error message
0x0000007A (0xc07BA000, 0xC0000000E 0xF740050C, 0x3917C860)
atapi.sys - address F740050C base at F73F3000, date stamp 4802539d
I have recently recovered a hard disk error and reloaded using th
recovery CD.
any ideas would be very much appreciated?
non-tech singapore girl!
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http://forums.techarena.i Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808181
Triple-booting - which first?
I've been using WinXP Pro since it was first released and I'm very happy
with it. However, I have a requirement to learn about Vista and Linux so I
recently bought a 500GB hard drive and intend to partition it in the
following way: three partitions, each 50GB in size, one for XP, one for
Vista Ultimate and one for Linux (probably Ubuntu) with the remainder of the
disc probably split into either two or three partitions for music, photos
and user documents/data.
My question is, in what order do I install the operating systems, so that
when I power up the machine, I'm presented with the choice of which OS to
boot into?
Thanks,
John Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808175
Run .dll errorl
Using Windows XP-sp2
when I reboot my system, I keep getting this message box on the desktop
"Run Dll
Error Lading C:\windows\sysstem32\uptnxbkn.dll
This specified module could not be found"
It came up awhile after I was checking spy-bot and I migh have clicked on
the wrong thing in error, this is what I am assuming, but could be wrong
What does the error mean, and how do I restore it.
Appreciate any help Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808171
doskey doesn't work; PATH only sets after first Java compile; then resets to old PATH
Windows XP Pro SP2
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DOSKEY issue:
'doskey' seems to run but after that it doesn't have any history of my
commands at the CMD prompt
PATH issue:
I am trying to program in Java and I need both the PATH to remain as I set
it in Computer Management ( it remains set in the window to the JDK bin but
in the CMD window I can use 'javac' only once and then PATH reverts to the
old value - very weird)
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Re: Reinstallation erases all?
PS
XP got SP2 and are on NTFS if it makes any diff. W2 are on FAT.
"Anton" <nosp@m.com> skrev i meddelandet news:...
> First in the broken PC via CD and R, now it worked a little better and
> simpler on a working PC.
>
> Without starting disk "NTLDR missing"
> With -:- hal.dll missing on all but not XP, it started on second but
stopped
> at the XP logo.
> Last working still wrong I/O.
> Now I'll try to implement the missing ones the new way.
>
> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> news:ugA1Tb7sIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > How are you trying to copy the files? From which operating system are
> > you trying to do this? Just navigate to the i386 directory on the
> > Windows XP cd and copy them to the floppy diskette.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Anton wrote:
> >
> > > Access denied.
> > >
> > > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > > news:#0mtzi5sIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > >>copy x:\i386\ntdetect.com a:
> > >>copy x:\i386\ntldr a:
> > >>
> > >>X is the drive letter of the CD-ROM.
> > >>
> > >>John
> > >>
> > >>Anton wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Those files are only in XP as Sp's, otherwise in W2, as found in 3
> other
> > >>>PC's. Now I'll try on the XP CD but where?
> > >>>
> > >>>W2 didnt start to my surprise.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>news:ecZTnx2sIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>You *MUST* use the Windows XP version of the files ntldr and
> > >>>>NTDETECT.COM, extract them from the Windows XP cd. As mentioned in
> > >>>>another post the Windows 2000 version of these files *cannot* boot
> > >>>>Windows XP.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Does your Windows 2000 installation now boot properly?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>John
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Anton wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Windows XP version of the ntldr & NTDETECT.COM files are?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I used those from w2k, it started but didnt work: "Previous working
> OS
> > >>>
> > >>>I/O
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>fault at use of startsector s.."
> > >>>>>Otherwise on first its ntoskrln missing, second w32 conf sys, the
> rest
> > >>>>>ntoskrln.
> > >>>>>This or similar will be next
> >
>>>>>http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot-Manager-Disk/UBCD4WIN.shtml
> or
> > >>>
> > >>>I'll
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>try bootfix mbr and cfg again when acitve now is changed. Last I'll
> run
> > >>>
> > >>>over
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>W2000 on C if nothing better turns up.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Moving the disk over as slave and then transfer what I need didnt
> work
> > >>>
> > >>>last
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>time, some things couldnt be found but got back when OS was
repaired.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>"Anton" <nosp@m.com> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>>>news:OKGrDjvsIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>First part ok.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Copy from XP even if its starting with W2k on C?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>>>>news:O7iNKNnsIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>The Active partition flag can be set with a Windows 98 boot
> diskette
> > >>>
> > >>>and
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>the fdisk utility, Windows 98 boot diskettes are available on the
> > >>>>>>>Bootdisk.com site. You can also do this with third party tools
> like
> > >>>>>>>BootItNG by TeraByte Unlimited.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>If you have a floppy drive you can make an XP/NT boot floppy
> diskette
> > >>>>>>>and try to boot the Windows installations with it. Remember to
use
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>>>>>Windows XP version of the ntldr & NTDETECT.COM files to create
the
> > >>>>>>>floppy diskette. Also, the floppy diskette must contain an NT
boot
> > >>>>>>>sector, it *must* be formatted with Windows NT/2000/XP, if you
> format
> > >>>
> > >>>it
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>with DOS or Windows 9x the diskette will fail to boot Windows
> > >
> > > 2000/XP.
> > >
> > >>>>>>>http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>John
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Anton wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>See in-line:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>>>>>>news:uenGGkmsIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>See in-line:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Anton wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>When XP wasnt working I'd set it active via w2k, then nothing
> > >>>
> > >>>worked,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>deactive without an OS now?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Don't change the Active (System) partition! It will only add
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>confusion
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>to the mix, return the active partition status flag to the
> original
> > >>>>>>>>>active partition.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>How can it be done without an OS?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>XP repair doesnt work, from another Bootdisk it says hal.dll
is
> a
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>problem.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>What "other Bootdisk" do you mean? To do a repair install of
> > >
> > > Windows
> > >
> > >>>>>XP
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>you have to use a real Windows XP cd. What is this other boot
> disk
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>that
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>you speak of?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>From bootdisk.com got beyond the black screen and says hal.dll
is
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>missing/corrupt
> > >>>>>>>>Otherwise I use the XP CD.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>I'll try to copy an Hal and then check boot.ini.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Make sure that the partition containing the boot.ini file is
the
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Active
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>partition. Post the contents of the boot.ini file here.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Where do I find it without an OS?
> > >>>>>>>>Then I'll try to copy to a floppy.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>On Logon it is
> > >>>>>>>>1E Winnt
> > >>>>>>>>2C XP
> > >>>>>>>>3M,4H and 5G Winnt
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Bootcfg scan has 1-4 without xp!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>John
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>>>>>>>>news:ubIuo4gsIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>We don't know how your dual boot is setup, in particular we
> don't
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>know
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>how your partitions are setup and which one is the Active
> > >
> > > (system)
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>partition. Please keep the following in mind:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>1- If you set up your dual boot by following the typical
> > >
> > > Microsoft
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>instructions Windows 2000 will be installed on the Active
> > >
> > > (System)
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>partition. The shared system files Boot.ini, NTDETECT.COM &
> > >
> > > ntldr
> > >
> > >>>>>>will
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>also be in the root folder on this partition.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>2- The Windows 2000 version of the shared files NTDETECT.COM
&
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>ntldr
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>cannot boot a Windows XP installation, the Windows XP version
> of
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>those
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>files are aware of Windows 2000 and can boot the older
> operating
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>system.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>If you do an in-place upgrade (repair install) of Windows
2000
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>after
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>XP is installed it will replace the XP version of the files
> with
> > >>>
> > >>>the
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>older Windows 2000 versions. After the repair you have to
> > >
> > > replace
> > >
> > >>>>>>those
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>files with the XP versions, the files can be extracted from
the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Windows
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>XP cd.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>3- More often than not the hal.dll is missing error message
> > >
> > > isn't
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>caused by a missing hal.dll, it is usually caused by an
> incorrect
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>ARC
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>path in the boot.ini file, the line used to boot Windows XP
> > >
> > > points
> > >
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>the wrong location of the installation on the hard disk.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>John
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Anton wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Repair worked in W2k but not in XP now, like when hal.dll is
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>missing,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>option invisible. Chkdsk /r, fixboot and fixmbr didnt help.
> > >
> > > Should
> > >
> > >>>>>I
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>perhaps
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>act as if hal.dll is missing?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>"db.·.. > ` .. ." <)))
> > >>>
> > >>>·databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>skrev i
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>meddelandet news:eDHuhkWsIHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>there is a repair
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>option provided
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>via the windows
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>xp setup cd.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the repair option
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>will replace and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>repair corrupted
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>or missing system
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>files.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the repair option
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>will preserve your
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>windows and file
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>system.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug9
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>2.mspx
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>---------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>if you use the other
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>option involving
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>reinstallation, then
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>this option will install
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>windows and overwrite
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>your system files and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>basically wipe away
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>your customization.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>----------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>however, there is also
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the option to use the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>recovery console via
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the windows cd.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>with this option you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>can access the disk and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps run a chkdsk and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>a fixboot command in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the hope that this would
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>be an easier way to go:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>--
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Anton" <nosp@m.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>news:eF5qwcWsIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>XP and W2k doesnt boot, I get a black screen and tested
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>reinstallation.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Got
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>a Warning and stopped, it will wipe out all old files, is
> that
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>true
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>when
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>I'm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>not formatting again?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
>
> Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808141
Password problems..
Recently, my computer had some windows updates. I let them install and then
when I rebooted, Windows asked for a password. I am the only user on this
home computer so I did not ever set one. It won't let me log on at all.
I've tried entering nothing and everything I can think of. I've tried
rebooting into safe mode, and again it asks for passwords for Administrator
and myself.
I'm not a computer expert by a long run, but am hoping that someone might
have had the same experience and may have some help for this problem. Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808121
MS-Windows Installer 3.1 Error
Hello,
I am running Windows XP SP2.
For several months my system received (downloaded) automatic updates
successfully.
Now when I get update notices, I get the following error:
"Microsoft Windows Installer 3.1 Failed to Install"
I have not added or subtracted ANYTHING form the computer with this
message.
Can/will somebody tell me how to fix this problem???
Thank you,
Charles L. Phillips Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808120
K i give up.. reformatting
Lately my computer has been so slow.. the computer resource is always at 100%
and it's so frustrating trying to find out whats causing it since it is way
too laggy.
So unless someone has a CLEAR suggestion i will reformat.
I have a window's XP proffesional. and i think Malware is causing my
computer to use 100%.. Services exe takes around 30%.. the process thing
itslef is around 40%
and mg(something something) takes around like 30%
btw thanks all to everyone who tried to help me in my last question. Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808111
which net framework version can I uninstall ?Hi,
I have the following version of .net framework on my pc :
.NET Framework 1
.NET Framework CRT
.NET Framework WinForms
.NET Framework 2
.NET Framework ASP .NET
.NET Framework CA
Dr. Watson
.NET Framework PreXP
.NET Framework CLR
Are there any that I can uninstall as I am freeing my HD from unused
programs to get disk space?
thanks
Frank Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808109
why can't bootcfg find my Windows OS?
I had a hard drive crash on XP Pro and I'm trying to get everything up
again. XP won't start at all without the install CD. I need advice
about trying to boot into XP using my existing OS.
Previously I had three hard drives and I think the Windows
installation was on drive letter E: on hard drive 2.
Hard drive 1 (which crashed) contained C: and D:, but these were only
data partitions.
For some reason I think that Hard drive 1 (HD1) contained the boot
loader (and MBR?) which found the Windows installation on HD2.
When hard drive 1 failed, I think the Windows install wasn't in the
path to boot.
Here's how I tried to resolve the problem.
First, I removed the bad drive and verified that the other two hard
drives work (using an Ubuntu LiveCD). When I ran the XP Recovery
Console, the initial screen asked me to login to the administrator
account on c:\windows . I logged in successfully.
(I verified that c: corresponds to e: on what used to be HD2. C: is
the partition with windows installed).
The problem is that when I run bootcfg nothing seems to happen.
Running /list reveals nothing bootable; running /scan produces this
error message: "Failed to successfully scan disks for Windows
installations. This may be caused by a corrupt file system, which
prevents boot.cfg from successfuly scanning. Use chkdsk to detect any
disk errors."
I ran checkdsk; no errors. Before I ran bootcfg I ran both fixboot and
fixmbr without result. I noticed btw that in C:/windows there was no
boot.ini.
I'm on a 64 bit processor and I read somewhere that fixboot and fixmbr
isn't supported on 64 bit processors. Can you verify?
Is there anything else I can try? I find encouraging that recovery
console initially recognizes my Windows OS; why then is it unable to
make it bootable?
I will probably add Vista to the new HD I add, so I guess as long as
Vista can mount the drives, everything will be all right. But I would
really like to get XP running--(mainly to recover my previous settings
and some of the programs that I installed.
Otherwise I can just install XP and Vista on my new drive and forget
about the original Windows partition. But doesn't it seem strange that
Windows would recognize the Windows install at Recovery Console
originally and then be unable to use that knowledge to reconfigure
boot.ini? Any suggestions?
Robert Nagle
Houston, Texas
idiotprogrammer Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808106
Video Monitor on my Laptop!
I have a Dell Inspiron 8500 with Window xp Home edition and the video monitor
stopped working. It is blank (black) screen when window tries to boot...get
some display when booting and F8 to safe mode. The laptop works when hooked
to an external monitor (works fine). Also tried going back to a prior date
but that didn't work either. Any suggestions???? Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808093
Seeking way to track all program / service execution
Is there a way to track / log the start and end of all program executions
while the system is running? Overhead could be significant, but looking to
see / verify what is / has run during a period of time. I am not looking for
a way of debugging a specific application. Instead, looking to record,
track, audit all pgms that have run. Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808092
alt key problem
I been having this problem with alt key for a while. Often when I click on
favorites on my internet explore 7, the file option on ie 7 would be
highlighted and I would have to press alt key to free the lockup. I am not
sure if it's my keyboard's problem or windows. Anyone has an idea? thanx Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808090
XP SP3 - lost Network printing
Installed SP3 on base desktop hard wired to router with a Landisc attached
as mapped Drive. Lost wireless network printing from a laptop to base
printer and also connection to Landisc from desktop, restored all by using
Remove programs to get rid of SP3. Any suggestions? Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808085
All Incoming E-Mails Showing Gym Clip - As Attachments
I have Microsoft XP Professional with Outlook Express as my e-mail account.
For the last few days all incoming e-mails are showing the gym clip as
attachments with only one or two attachments out of approximately 10
e-mails. Is there something I can do to correct this?
Thanks,
Betty Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808071
IE7 won't connect
I just reinstalled Internet Explorer 7. Now I'm still unable to
connect. (Cable, XP Pro SP2)
Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage.
Oh, here's something interesting: Firefox is my default browser, but
recently I've had major problems navigating at webites like Amazon and
Tower--text throughout the tops of the pages were blurry, and clicking
did not take me to new pages.
Opening it now, I see that they're clear!! So something in the IE 7
reinstallation must have fixed the Firefox problem. But it has not
fixed the IE problem--I still can't connect to the web.
I should have disabled Spybot; both of my last installations have
brought me Spybot questions about registry changes that I had trouble
answering: the first time I said do not allow. This time I said Do
allow.
What can be the problem with my IE7? Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808048
Restore/reinstall
I have an HP Pavilion laptop. It has a restore partition and I have the
disks made from that. The reinstall puts EVERYTHING back like the day it
arrived. I like to reformat from time to time but geesh I hate having to
put all the junk programs back on. It takes me nearly as long getting
rid of the junk as it does to reinstall my own programs. Is there any
way to pull just the Windows XP Pro out of it. I don't want to buy
another XP just to have a clean one
Sunni Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808047
Invalid directory?
I installed the latest java kit and cannot CD to the directory.
C:\Program Files\Java> dir
jre1.6.0_06
C:\Program Files\Java> cd jre1.6.0_06
Invalid Directory
I tried it with both a prepended and appended '\' but that didn't work
either. In WINDOWS I can see the folder, save to the folder, and even create
and access folders in the Java folder (where 'jre' resides).
This is a mystery... :/
--
-joe
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my faith: http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/jbc33/ Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808032
XP Serious Error After chkdsk /f
Both of my XP systems are updated regularly, and when they were as SP2
machines, whenever I did a chkdsk /f command to clean up the disk, it always
knarls everything and and in addition to not cleaning up the errors on the
disk, the system reboots and recovers from a "Serious Error". The system
takes me to a page where it says I have a rogue device driver, which I do
not. All of my drivers are signed on both systems. Hardware failure is not
the culprit either, as both systems have newer drives in them. After
installing SP3, the situation is the same.
Why is this occurring? Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808031
how do i access bluetooth capability
hi,
i am using Windows XP SP3 (on a macbook via VMware Fusion). I have a treo
750W that runs Windows Mobile 6.0. My macbook has bluetooth capability but i
have no idea how to use that to sync my treo with the windows side of my
machine. I have read a number of posts that suggest that if i go to control
panel or network connections, i should find "Bluetooth Devices" but there is
nothing there. there are also mentions of MS Bluetooth Stack but i have no
idea if i have that already or need to download it and if the latter then
from where.
Can someone please help? if you can dumb down the instruction for a lay
person, that would be terrific.
thanks so much. Tag: System Completely Freezes or Spontaneously Reboots Tag: 808029