PS
XP got SP2 and are on NTFS if it makes any diff. W2 are on FAT.
"Anton" <nosp@m.com> skrev i meddelandet news:...
> First in the broken PC via CD and R, now it worked a little better and
> simpler on a working PC.
>
> Without starting disk "NTLDR missing"
> With -:- hal.dll missing on all but not XP, it started on second but
stopped
> at the XP logo.
> Last working still wrong I/O.
> Now I'll try to implement the missing ones the new way.
>
> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> news:ugA1Tb7sIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > How are you trying to copy the files? From which operating system are
> > you trying to do this? Just navigate to the i386 directory on the
> > Windows XP cd and copy them to the floppy diskette.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Anton wrote:
> >
> > > Access denied.
> > >
> > > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > > news:#0mtzi5sIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > >>copy x:\i386\ntdetect.com a:
> > >>copy x:\i386\ntldr a:
> > >>
> > >>X is the drive letter of the CD-ROM.
> > >>
> > >>John
> > >>
> > >>Anton wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Those files are only in XP as Sp's, otherwise in W2, as found in 3
> other
> > >>>PC's. Now I'll try on the XP CD but where?
> > >>>
> > >>>W2 didnt start to my surprise.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>news:ecZTnx2sIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>You *MUST* use the Windows XP version of the files ntldr and
> > >>>>NTDETECT.COM, extract them from the Windows XP cd. As mentioned in
> > >>>>another post the Windows 2000 version of these files *cannot* boot
> > >>>>Windows XP.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Does your Windows 2000 installation now boot properly?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>John
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Anton wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Windows XP version of the ntldr & NTDETECT.COM files are?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I used those from w2k, it started but didnt work: "Previous working
> OS
> > >>>
> > >>>I/O
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>fault at use of startsector s.."
> > >>>>>Otherwise on first its ntoskrln missing, second w32 conf sys, the
> rest
> > >>>>>ntoskrln.
> > >>>>>This or similar will be next
> >
>>>>>http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot-Manager-Disk/UBCD4WIN.shtml
> or
> > >>>
> > >>>I'll
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>try bootfix mbr and cfg again when acitve now is changed. Last I'll
> run
> > >>>
> > >>>over
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>W2000 on C if nothing better turns up.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Moving the disk over as slave and then transfer what I need didnt
> work
> > >>>
> > >>>last
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>time, some things couldnt be found but got back when OS was
repaired.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>"Anton" <nosp@m.com> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>>>news:OKGrDjvsIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>First part ok.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Copy from XP even if its starting with W2k on C?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>>>>news:O7iNKNnsIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>The Active partition flag can be set with a Windows 98 boot
> diskette
> > >>>
> > >>>and
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>the fdisk utility, Windows 98 boot diskettes are available on the
> > >>>>>>>Bootdisk.com site. You can also do this with third party tools
> like
> > >>>>>>>BootItNG by TeraByte Unlimited.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>If you have a floppy drive you can make an XP/NT boot floppy
> diskette
> > >>>>>>>and try to boot the Windows installations with it. Remember to
use
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>>>>>Windows XP version of the ntldr & NTDETECT.COM files to create
the
> > >>>>>>>floppy diskette. Also, the floppy diskette must contain an NT
boot
> > >>>>>>>sector, it *must* be formatted with Windows NT/2000/XP, if you
> format
> > >>>
> > >>>it
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>with DOS or Windows 9x the diskette will fail to boot Windows
> > >
> > > 2000/XP.
> > >
> > >>>>>>>http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>John
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Anton wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>See in-line:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>>>>>>news:uenGGkmsIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>See in-line:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Anton wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>When XP wasnt working I'd set it active via w2k, then nothing
> > >>>
> > >>>worked,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>deactive without an OS now?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Don't change the Active (System) partition! It will only add
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>confusion
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>to the mix, return the active partition status flag to the
> original
> > >>>>>>>>>active partition.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>How can it be done without an OS?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>XP repair doesnt work, from another Bootdisk it says hal.dll
is
> a
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>problem.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>What "other Bootdisk" do you mean? To do a repair install of
> > >
> > > Windows
> > >
> > >>>>>XP
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>you have to use a real Windows XP cd. What is this other boot
> disk
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>that
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>you speak of?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>From bootdisk.com got beyond the black screen and says hal.dll
is
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>missing/corrupt
> > >>>>>>>>Otherwise I use the XP CD.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>I'll try to copy an Hal and then check boot.ini.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Make sure that the partition containing the boot.ini file is
the
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Active
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>partition. Post the contents of the boot.ini file here.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Where do I find it without an OS?
> > >>>>>>>>Then I'll try to copy to a floppy.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>On Logon it is
> > >>>>>>>>1E Winnt
> > >>>>>>>>2C XP
> > >>>>>>>>3M,4H and 5G Winnt
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Bootcfg scan has 1-4 without xp!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>John
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>>>>>>>>news:ubIuo4gsIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>We don't know how your dual boot is setup, in particular we
> don't
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>know
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>how your partitions are setup and which one is the Active
> > >
> > > (system)
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>partition. Please keep the following in mind:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>1- If you set up your dual boot by following the typical
> > >
> > > Microsoft
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>instructions Windows 2000 will be installed on the Active
> > >
> > > (System)
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>partition. The shared system files Boot.ini, NTDETECT.COM &
> > >
> > > ntldr
> > >
> > >>>>>>will
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>also be in the root folder on this partition.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>2- The Windows 2000 version of the shared files NTDETECT.COM
&
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>ntldr
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>cannot boot a Windows XP installation, the Windows XP version
> of
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>those
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>files are aware of Windows 2000 and can boot the older
> operating
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>system.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>If you do an in-place upgrade (repair install) of Windows
2000
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>after
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>XP is installed it will replace the XP version of the files
> with
> > >>>
> > >>>the
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>older Windows 2000 versions. After the repair you have to
> > >
> > > replace
> > >
> > >>>>>>those
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>files with the XP versions, the files can be extracted from
the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Windows
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>XP cd.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>3- More often than not the hal.dll is missing error message
> > >
> > > isn't
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>caused by a missing hal.dll, it is usually caused by an
> incorrect
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>ARC
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>path in the boot.ini file, the line used to boot Windows XP
> > >
> > > points
> > >
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>the wrong location of the installation on the hard disk.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>John
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Anton wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Repair worked in W2k but not in XP now, like when hal.dll is
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>missing,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>option invisible. Chkdsk /r, fixboot and fixmbr didnt help.
> > >
> > > Should
> > >
> > >>>>>I
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>perhaps
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>act as if hal.dll is missing?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>"db.·.. > ` .. ." <)))
> > >>>
> > >>>·databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>skrev i
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>meddelandet news:eDHuhkWsIHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>there is a repair
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>option provided
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>via the windows
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>xp setup cd.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the repair option
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>will replace and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>repair corrupted
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>or missing system
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>files.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the repair option
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>will preserve your
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>windows and file
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>system.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug9
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>2.mspx
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>---------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>if you use the other
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>option involving
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>reinstallation, then
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>this option will install
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>windows and overwrite
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>your system files and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>basically wipe away
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>your customization.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>----------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>however, there is also
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the option to use the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>recovery console via
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the windows cd.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>with this option you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>can access the disk and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps run a chkdsk and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>a fixboot command in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>the hope that this would
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>be an easier way to go:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>--
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Anton" <nosp@m.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>news:eF5qwcWsIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>XP and W2k doesnt boot, I get a black screen and tested
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>reinstallation.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Got
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>a Warning and stopped, it will wipe out all old files, is
> that
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>true
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>when
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>I'm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>not formatting again?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
>
>