Just a quick Q ... I'm tired and not thinking very well at this point
(30+ hours straight).

I've tried Recovery Console > FIXBOOT, FIXMBR, & CHKDSK, then 3-4
times of a Repair of Windows to no avail. Still stuck at 12-13
minutes. If I choose Install a Fresh Copy, does that overwrite the
items in the subject?

TIA,
Mike

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, etc.? by Cliff

Cliff
Tue May 13 16:18:48 PDT 2008

yep, it does

"Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
news:540c62dd-dbe8-4e0f-8b50-f7eb8c544cdf@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> Just a quick Q ... I'm tired and not thinking very well at this point
> (30+ hours straight).
>
> I've tried Recovery Console > FIXBOOT, FIXMBR, & CHKDSK, then 3-4
> times of a Repair of Windows to no avail. Still stuck at 12-13
> minutes. If I choose Install a Fresh Copy, does that overwrite the
> items in the subject?
>
> TIA,
> Mike


Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 16:28:23 PDT 2008

On May 13, 6:18=A0pm, "Cliff Galiher" <cgali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> yep, it does
>
> "Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_w...@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
>
> news:540c62dd-dbe8-4e0f-8b50-f7eb8c544cdf@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Just a quick Q ... I'm tired and not thinking very well at this point
> > (30+ hours straight).
>
> > I've tried Recovery Console > FIXBOOT, FIXMBR, & CHKDSK, then 3-4
> > times of a Repair of Windows to no avail. =A0Still stuck at 12-13
> > minutes. =A0If I choose Install a Fresh Copy, does that overwrite the
> > items in the subject?
>
> > TIA,
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks!

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, etc.? by Merv

Merv
Tue May 13 16:40:15 PDT 2008

Have you tried just connecting the Internal NIC to a (powered on) switch and
with no Internet connection on the external NIC?

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
news:4ea904ce-aa48-42f5-8acb-3b70d0db365c@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On May 13, 6:18 pm, "Cliff Galiher" <cgali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> yep, it does
>
> "Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_w...@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
>
> news:540c62dd-dbe8-4e0f-8b50-f7eb8c544cdf@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Just a quick Q ... I'm tired and not thinking very well at this point
> > (30+ hours straight).
>
> > I've tried Recovery Console > FIXBOOT, FIXMBR, & CHKDSK, then 3-4
> > times of a Repair of Windows to no avail. Still stuck at 12-13
> > minutes. If I choose Install a Fresh Copy, does that overwrite the
> > items in the subject?
>
> > TIA,
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks!



Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 16:55:26 PDT 2008

No, I haven't. What would that do?

Mike

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, etc.? by Merv

Merv
Tue May 13 18:07:00 PDT 2008

Just the way I have always installed it and I've only had one minor incident
with the "13 minute" problem.

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
news:4ae040c8-7698-4dcd-a327-8f3661edb46c@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> No, I haven't. What would that do?
>
> Mike



Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, etc.? by Cris

Cris
Tue May 13 18:16:49 PDT 2008

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In fact the recommended method for install, even with 2 nics and ISA, is =
LAN nic should be connected to its switch and second nic should be =
disabled until you're ready for it

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Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 18:33:11 PDT 2008

On May 13, 8:07=A0pm, "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]"
<mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote:
> Just the way I have always installed it and I've only had one minor incide=
nt
> with the "13 minute" problem.
>
> --
> Merv =A0Porter =A0 [SBS-MVP]
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>
> "Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_w...@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
>
> news:4ae040c8-7698-4dcd-a327-8f3661edb46c@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > No, I haven't. =A0What would that do?
>
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> - Show quoted text -

I think I get it .... Setup disabled the external NIC during the
process, but you guys are saying to physically disconnect the cable
from the NIC, and connec the internal NIC to my (live) switch) --
right?

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, etc.? by Cris

Cris
Tue May 13 18:40:43 PDT 2008

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yup!


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"Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message =
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On May 13, 8:07 pm, "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]"
<mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote:
> Just the way I have always installed it and I've only had one minor =
incident
> with the "13 minute" problem.
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>
> "Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_w...@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
>
> =
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>
>
> > No, I haven't. What would that do?
>
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process, but you guys are saying to physically disconnect the cable
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Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 18:47:21 PDT 2008

On May 13, 8:40=A0pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]"
<crisnospamha...@cpunospamservices.net> wrote:
> yup!
>
> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
> ------------------------------------------
> MVPs Do Not Work For Microsoft
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Please do not contact me directly. =A0Please post only in the newsgroup so=
all can benefit
>
> "Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_w...@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in messagenews:dde9=
e6bf-b219-4596-bcbd-42908552e134@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> On May 13, 8:07 pm, "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]"
>
>
>
>
>
> <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Just the way I have always installed it and I've only had one minor inci=
dent
> > with the "13 minute" problem.
>
> > --
> > Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>
> > "Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_w...@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
>
> >news:4ae040c8-7698-4dcd-a327-8f3661edb46c@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > No, I haven't. What would that do?
>
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>
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>
> I think I get it .... Setup disabled the external NIC during the
> process, but you guys are saying to physically disconnect the cable
> from the NIC, and connec the internal NIC to my (live) switch) --
> right?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'll do it now!

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 18:56:18 PDT 2008

Am re-booting now; pressed F2 Setup at the front-end to get to BIOS
(?) setup and used it to Disable that external NIC. Also disconnected
the cable.

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, etc.? by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Tue May 13 19:15:59 PDT 2008

I _love_ watching you 'jump in the deep end' Mike.

The '13 minute' issue has been known to take 24+hrs. Some people suggest
that ejecting the CD and re-inserting it has kicked it back into action, not
IME however.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE (I ask you three times) stop 'mucking about' with
your system. PLEASE do a complete 'normal' install and start getting on with
your work. Want a 'play' system, Virtual Server is an option.

"Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
news:3c9ebdfe-ac66-4c97-9991-b17fb7fbd1a0@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> Am re-booting now; pressed F2 Setup at the front-end to get to BIOS
> (?) setup and used it to Disable that external NIC. Also disconnected
> the cable.



Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 19:28:07 PDT 2008

I gotta laugh : ) ! (I'm tired.) I must be the first SBS'er "in the
history of this NG" that has to be told to quit "mucking about" and
get a life.

I'm trying. My desire to learn ( and yes, impatience) seems to far
outstrip my ability to apply sanity. I got a hunch my wife will show
up soon and drag me off home.

You guys win ...... AFTER I get this system up! I have a couch in the
lobby where I can catch a couple hours later tonight and charge back
to it.

I've asked in the other thread for SBS'ers opinioons on how best to
preserve user's profiles and desktop settings. That's a KEY for
them. They want their email and they want their PC's (some have had
the same one for 3 years now) to be the "same" as it's always been.
Absolutely agree with that; I'd be the same on their end.

Mike

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 19:34:34 PDT 2008

My god! Your idea worked! (Go ahead and laugh, I don't mind.)

I was on another thread, looked back at the server and it's down to 2
minutes -- hooray!!

To think if I'd hadn't "known what I was doing", I could have re-read
the instal guide/ readme.html file - carefully - and done that oh-so-
simple step .......... of disabling the external NIC.

Again, I'm the poster-boy for what NOT to do in the SBS world!

Want to hear the 'scary' part? My goal is to get my MCSE this year.
(Yeah, really.)

Mike

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, etc.? by Cris

Cris
Tue May 13 19:38:55 PDT 2008

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I think the message we would like to get across is not to muck around =
with your production system

Get a high end PC...set it up separately as an SBS server in its own =
domain and play there all you want...

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
------------------------------------------
MVPs Do Not Work For Microsoft
-----------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly. Please post only in the newsgroup so =
all can benefit


"Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message =
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I gotta laugh : ) ! (I'm tired.) I must be the first SBS'er "in the
history of this NG" that has to be told to quit "mucking about" and
get a life.

I'm trying. My desire to learn ( and yes, impatience) seems to far
outstrip my ability to apply sanity. I got a hunch my wife will show
up soon and drag me off home.

You guys win ...... AFTER I get this system up! I have a couch in the
lobby where I can catch a couple hours later tonight and charge back
to it.

I've asked in the other thread for SBS'ers opinioons on how best to
preserve user's profiles and desktop settings. That's a KEY for
them. They want their email and they want their PC's (some have had
the same one for 3 years now) to be the "same" as it's always been.
Absolutely agree with that; I'd be the same on their end.

Mike
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Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 19:50:49 PDT 2008

Can't argue. It'd make much more sense.

Mike

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, etc.? by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Tue May 13 20:15:53 PDT 2008

LOL :-)

If you keep hitting all the problems you keep hitting you will be worth a
LOT more than an MCSE.

"Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
news:031ee7c4-fdd8-4cc0-9013-0e32fbacb6f9@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> My god! Your idea worked! (Go ahead and laugh, I don't mind.)
>
> I was on another thread, looked back at the server and it's down to 2
> minutes -- hooray!!
>
> To think if I'd hadn't "known what I was doing", I could have re-read
> the instal guide/ readme.html file - carefully - and done that oh-so-
> simple step .......... of disabling the external NIC.
>
> Again, I'm the poster-boy for what NOT to do in the SBS world!
>
> Want to hear the 'scary' part? My goal is to get my MCSE this year.
> (Yeah, really.)
>
> Mike



Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 20:21:52 PDT 2008

On May 13, 10:15=A0pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@your.nellie> wrote:
> LOL :-)
>
> If you keep hitting all the problems you keep hitting you will be worth a
> LOT more than an MCSE.
>
> "Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_w...@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
>
> news:031ee7c4-fdd8-4cc0-9013-0e32fbacb6f9@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > My god! =A0Your idea worked! (Go ahead and laugh, I don't mind.)
>
> > I was on another thread, looked back at the server and it's down to 2
> > minutes -- hooray!!
>
> > To think if I'd hadn't "known what I was doing", I could have re-read
> > the instal guide/ readme.html file - carefully - and done that oh-so-
> > simple step .......... of disabling the external NIC.
>
> > Again, I'm the poster-boy for what NOT to do in the SBS world!
>
> > Want to hear the 'scary' part? =A0My goal is to get my MCSE this year.
> > (Yeah, really.)
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks!!

Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, etc.? by Larry

Larry
Tue May 13 20:26:33 PDT 2008

Hey Mike:

MSCE will be a nice thing to hang on your wall, and it will give you a lot
of warm fuzzies. But it will not help you a lot with SBS 03 or 08.

Don't get me wrong. The more you know about the under the hood issues the
better off you will be in Windows IT support. But there is simply no reason
to know the ins and outs of DNS, AD, WINS, Exchange Enterprise, Trusts,
Forests, ad nausum, to manage an SBS server. Thousands do it who don't have
one tenth the level of understanding that you do now.

And perhaps that is the problem. You may know enough to be dangerous.
Perhaps you should forget everything you know and just follow the bouncing
ball as in www.sbsrocks.com and www.sbsrules.com and ask for answers to
anything you don't fully understand *before* you start to "fix" it.

If and when you get the MSCE award, you will be "able" to manage an
enterprise level Windows network, but trust me, no one will let you until
you have passed through trial by fire. Most new MCSEs get to install
Windows desktops and some even get to attach them to the network. Years
later they get Admin Level 3/4/5 privileges that allows them to perhaps, log
on to a server and look at the permissions or some other trivial function.

SBS is so much more fun!

--
Larry

Please post the resolution to
your issue so that all can benefit.


"Mike_in_Nebraska" <mike_webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
news:031ee7c4-fdd8-4cc0-9013-0e32fbacb6f9@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> My god! Your idea worked! (Go ahead and laugh, I don't mind.)
>
> I was on another thread, looked back at the server and it's down to 2
> minutes -- hooray!!
>
> To think if I'd hadn't "known what I was doing", I could have re-read
> the instal guide/ readme.html file - carefully - and done that oh-so-
> simple step .......... of disabling the external NIC.
>
> Again, I'm the poster-boy for what NOT to do in the SBS world!
>
> Want to hear the 'scary' part? My goal is to get my MCSE this year.
> (Yeah, really.)
>
> Mike



Re: "fresh install" of Windows from CD = overwrite of AD, Info Store, by Mike_in_Nebraska

Mike_in_Nebraska
Tue May 13 20:53:35 PDT 2008

I appreciate your time and comments. It meams a lot.

I admit, part of it is that I'll have a structured means, that is
demonstrable, to gain the knowledge I've felt for years I needed to do
the job of a sys admin. It's a bit like meteorology when I was in
the service. Back in the 70's it was still experience, inuition and
pattern-recognition that made a good forecaster stand out. Then, as
computers and their number-crunching became an increasingly larger
part, we found that the synpotic or 'big picture' pattern could be
handled/forecast by the computer models as well or better than a
human. Our focus shrank to the mesoscale, or smaller (county, city,
town-size, and smaller) -- but it now took a knowledge of not only
basic meteorology, but physics, calculus, optics and chemistry - not
to mention computer skills and ever-deepening knowledge of computer
model strengths and weaknesses. All of a sudden, a bunch of us
couldn't compete with the "college boys" who had the training and
education to do that. It was part of the reason I threw myself into
computers in the 90s - to "keep up".

Flash-forward to the last few years. What was a hellva skill level a
few short years ago (MCP in Win NT 4.0 Server) is barely above
average. As I' ve found (for me) it's not enough jump in the trenches
each day. I 'see' you guys & gals and realize what could be - if I
had the training base to build on. It's what works for me; I need a
structured knowledge base to build on. A lot of what I read in the
SBS world I struggle with - I don't have the knowledge base.

It's also a possible means to a better life. There's a MS Gold
Partner in my hometown that is well-thought of and growing, with solid
MCP's and MCSE's on staff. I'd kinda like to change jobs and do that
full-time. It'd also put me in a great place to learn from others in
a collaborative environment. (The pay is a heckuva lot better, too).
And my wife would be thrilled to have me home more, rather than an 80-
mile daily round-trip commute everyday.

Lastly, I hit the big 5-0 last year, and a goal as mentally
challenging as an MCSE and the constant learning this field demands is
good for the 'ole brain cells.

Sorry to get long-winded. Better get my feet on the ground and take
it one step at a time, one day at a time.
And I've got a server to get up by 0730 tomorrow morning.

Talk to you later,
Mike