access to GMail through ISA 2004

Running SBS 2003 Premium. Got a staff member who has asked for a
"loosening" of ISA so she can get to her GMail account. She says "half the
time she is disconnected" when trying to access the site.
I don't have a specific rule for or against GMail, but I recently used
ISAServer.org's and MS's papers on security for ISA and hardening of ISA, so
think that is the reason.

I'm personnally against any loosening of ISA, but would like some comments
on whether my settings are preventing her access, which rule(s)/setting(s),
and whether it's an acceptable risk.

--
Mike Webb
Platte River Whooping Crane Maintenance Trust, Inc.
a conservation non-profit (501 (c)(3)) organization
Wood River, NE

Charlie
Wed May 07 12:45:29 PDT 2008

I've set up my gmail account as an IMAP account, and access it from within
Outlook. I have a specific rule that allows IMAP connections through ISA.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Mike in Nebraska" <Mike_Webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
news:ODdYhYHsIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Running SBS 2003 Premium. Got a staff member who has asked for a
> "loosening" of ISA so she can get to her GMail account. She says "half
> the time she is disconnected" when trying to access the site.
> I don't have a specific rule for or against GMail, but I recently used
> ISAServer.org's and MS's papers on security for ISA and hardening of ISA,
> so think that is the reason.
>
> I'm personnally against any loosening of ISA, but would like some comments
> on whether my settings are preventing her access, which
> rule(s)/setting(s), and whether it's an acceptable risk.
>
> --
> Mike Webb
> Platte River Whooping Crane Maintenance Trust, Inc.
> a conservation non-profit (501 (c)(3)) organization
> Wood River, NE
>

Mike
Wed May 07 13:18:04 PDT 2008

Never thought of that. Hadn't dealt with IMAP before, so I'll do some
searches on it in SBS and see if I can find how to do that.

Thanks,
Mike
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:F849F9E4-BC77-4944-999D-04BE82482DCC@microsoft.com...
> I've set up my gmail account as an IMAP account, and access it from within
> Outlook. I have a specific rule that allows IMAP connections through ISA.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Mike in Nebraska" <Mike_Webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
> news:ODdYhYHsIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Running SBS 2003 Premium. Got a staff member who has asked for a
>> "loosening" of ISA so she can get to her GMail account. She says "half
>> the time she is disconnected" when trying to access the site.
>> I don't have a specific rule for or against GMail, but I recently used
>> ISAServer.org's and MS's papers on security for ISA and hardening of ISA,
>> so think that is the reason.
>>
>> I'm personnally against any loosening of ISA, but would like some
>> comments on whether my settings are preventing her access, which
>> rule(s)/setting(s), and whether it's an acceptable risk.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Webb
>> Platte River Whooping Crane Maintenance Trust, Inc.
>> a conservation non-profit (501 (c)(3)) organization
>> Wood River, NE
>>
>

Holz
Wed May 07 16:11:43 PDT 2008

On Wed, 07 May 2008 14:11:22 -0500, Mike in Nebraska wrote:

> Got a staff member who has asked for a "loosening" of ISA so she can get
> to her GMail account.

Is she getting paid to use Gmail?



--
Jerry Maguire: Help me... help you. Help me, help you. ;-)

Cliff
Wed May 07 17:28:23 PDT 2008

Ever since google added an ajax google talk client to the gmail page,
connections can be flaky. I'd check with her to see if *GMAIL* is the
problem (doubtful) or if she is "disconnected" from google talk within gmail
(my vote.)

Sometimes getting to the heart of what an end-user means vs. what they say
is half the battle. If I'm correct in my guess, you have to make a business
decision whether IM is a company priority.

-Cliff


"Mike in Nebraska" <Mike_Webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
news:ODdYhYHsIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Running SBS 2003 Premium. Got a staff member who has asked for a
> "loosening" of ISA so she can get to her GMail account. She says "half
> the time she is disconnected" when trying to access the site.
> I don't have a specific rule for or against GMail, but I recently used
> ISAServer.org's and MS's papers on security for ISA and hardening of ISA,
> so think that is the reason.
>
> I'm personnally against any loosening of ISA, but would like some comments
> on whether my settings are preventing her access, which
> rule(s)/setting(s), and whether it's an acceptable risk.
>
> --
> Mike Webb
> Platte River Whooping Crane Maintenance Trust, Inc.
> a conservation non-profit (501 (c)(3)) organization
> Wood River, NE
>

Mike
Thu May 08 05:57:13 PDT 2008

No. She tells me she has a "lot" of email addresses in it she doesn't want
to transfer over, so she uses both for work.


"Holz" <holz@laptop.none> wrote in message
news:68er9fF2r35piU1@mid.individual.net...
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 14:11:22 -0500, Mike in Nebraska wrote:
>
>> Got a staff member who has asked for a "loosening" of ISA so she can get
>> to her GMail account.
>
> Is she getting paid to use Gmail?
>
>
>
> --
> Jerry Maguire: Help me... help you. Help me, help you. ;-)

Mike
Thu May 08 05:58:15 PDT 2008

No, it's just the email. IMO, she doesn't want to take the time to transfer
over all the email addresses she has from GMail to her work Outlook Address
Book.

"Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O9xZsJKsIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Ever since google added an ajax google talk client to the gmail page,
> connections can be flaky. I'd check with her to see if *GMAIL* is the
> problem (doubtful) or if she is "disconnected" from google talk within
> gmail (my vote.)
>
> Sometimes getting to the heart of what an end-user means vs. what they say
> is half the battle. If I'm correct in my guess, you have to make a
> business decision whether IM is a company priority.
>
> -Cliff
>
>
> "Mike in Nebraska" <Mike_Webb@whoopingcrane.org> wrote in message
> news:ODdYhYHsIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Running SBS 2003 Premium. Got a staff member who has asked for a
>> "loosening" of ISA so she can get to her GMail account. She says "half
>> the time she is disconnected" when trying to access the site.
>> I don't have a specific rule for or against GMail, but I recently used
>> ISAServer.org's and MS's papers on security for ISA and hardening of ISA,
>> so think that is the reason.
>>
>> I'm personnally against any loosening of ISA, but would like some
>> comments on whether my settings are preventing her access, which
>> rule(s)/setting(s), and whether it's an acceptable risk.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Webb
>> Platte River Whooping Crane Maintenance Trust, Inc.
>> a conservation non-profit (501 (c)(3)) organization
>> Wood River, NE
>>