Good morning forum

Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
issue that works and stays working?

I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with posts that
appear as though the problem still exists?

Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days, then the
SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the following days
with no intervention.

Re: WSUS 3.0 SP1 / MSSQL$SBSMonitoring saga by Les

Les
Thu May 15 08:49:42 PDT 2008

I'm not clear on what the problem is. Is it that the monitoring page won't
render (display)?

--
Les Connor [SBS MVP]
________________________
Get the SBS BPA here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940439/en-us


"SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2A64AF3C-DA74-4C19-BE71-3E1B64AD1A60@microsoft.com...
> Good morning forum
>
> Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
> issue that works and stays working?
>
> I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with posts that
> appear as though the problem still exists?
>
> Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days, then the
> SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the following days
> with no intervention.
>
>


Re: WSUS 3.0 SP1 / MSSQL$SBSMonitoring saga by SitsWithMouse

SitsWithMouse
Fri May 16 15:42:01 PDT 2008

hi Les

Yes, this one



An error occurred on the page you are trying to view.
________________________________________
To work around this problem, perform the following steps. After each step,
try again to access the page.
â?¢ Ensure that the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service is started.
â?¢ Ensure that the server is not low on memory or disk space.
â?¢ Restart the server.
â?¢ Verify that the server is functional and that there are no system-wide
problems.
â?¢ Run the Set Up Monitoring Reports and Alerts task in the Server Management
Monitoring and Reporting taskpad.


"Les Connor [SBS MVP]" wrote:

> I'm not clear on what the problem is. Is it that the monitoring page won't
> render (display)?
>
> --
> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
> ________________________
> Get the SBS BPA here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940439/en-us
>
>
> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2A64AF3C-DA74-4C19-BE71-3E1B64AD1A60@microsoft.com...
> > Good morning forum
> >
> > Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
> > issue that works and stays working?
> >
> > I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with posts that
> > appear as though the problem still exists?
> >
> > Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days, then the
> > SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the following days
> > with no intervention.
> >
> >
>

Re: WSUS 3.0 SP1 / MSSQL$SBSMonitoring saga by Henrik

Henrik
Sat May 17 16:52:05 PDT 2008

I have had that problems just a few times and Its has always been related to
the fact that the server was running out of resources (Ram etc).

I cant speak for your environment but can you relate to this, the lack of
resources?

//Henrik, MCP-SBS,

"SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
meddelandet news:93FF82AF-E23D-4C22-A6A6-455C58BCC911@microsoft.com...
> hi Les
>
> Yes, this one
>
>
>
> An error occurred on the page you are trying to view.
> ________________________________________
> To work around this problem, perform the following steps. After each step,
> try again to access the page.
> . Ensure that the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service is started.
> . Ensure that the server is not low on memory or disk space.
> . Restart the server.
> . Verify that the server is functional and that there are no system-wide
> problems.
> . Run the Set Up Monitoring Reports and Alerts task in the Server
> Management
> Monitoring and Reporting taskpad.
>
>
> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> I'm not clear on what the problem is. Is it that the monitoring page
>> won't
>> render (display)?
>>
>> --
>> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
>> ________________________
>> Get the SBS BPA here:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940439/en-us
>>
>>
>> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:2A64AF3C-DA74-4C19-BE71-3E1B64AD1A60@microsoft.com...
>> > Good morning forum
>> >
>> > Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
>> > issue that works and stays working?
>> >
>> > I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with posts that
>> > appear as though the problem still exists?
>> >
>> > Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days, then
>> > the
>> > SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the following
>> > days
>> > with no intervention.
>> >
>> >
>>



Re: WSUS 3.0 SP1 / MSSQL$SBSMonitoring saga by SitsWithMouse

SitsWithMouse
Sat May 17 22:07:00 PDT 2008

Thanks for your reply Henrik

It would appear to be so in most cases. We have found servers with 2Gb RAM
running WSUS 2.0 don't give this error, but when WSUS 3.0 SP1 gets loaded,
the problem appears.

We look after about 30 SBS servers and this pattern is emerging, except for
on one server that does have 4Gb ram already. This is also a fairly recently
implemented server, so I am confident that it is not suffering form other
problems. In fact, the day after accepting and applying the WSUS 3.0 SP1
update, it reported the 'error'.


"Henrik (Hear)" wrote:

> I have had that problems just a few times and Its has always been related to
> the fact that the server was running out of resources (Ram etc).
>
> I cant speak for your environment but can you relate to this, the lack of
> resources?
>
> //Henrik, MCP-SBS,
>
> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
> meddelandet news:93FF82AF-E23D-4C22-A6A6-455C58BCC911@microsoft.com...
> > hi Les
> >
> > Yes, this one
> >
> >
> >
> > An error occurred on the page you are trying to view.
> > ________________________________________
> > To work around this problem, perform the following steps. After each step,
> > try again to access the page.
> > . Ensure that the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service is started.
> > . Ensure that the server is not low on memory or disk space.
> > . Restart the server.
> > . Verify that the server is functional and that there are no system-wide
> > problems.
> > . Run the Set Up Monitoring Reports and Alerts task in the Server
> > Management
> > Monitoring and Reporting taskpad.
> >
> >
> > "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not clear on what the problem is. Is it that the monitoring page
> >> won't
> >> render (display)?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
> >> ________________________
> >> Get the SBS BPA here:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940439/en-us
> >>
> >>
> >> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:2A64AF3C-DA74-4C19-BE71-3E1B64AD1A60@microsoft.com...
> >> > Good morning forum
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
> >> > issue that works and stays working?
> >> >
> >> > I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with posts that
> >> > appear as though the problem still exists?
> >> >
> >> > Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days, then
> >> > the
> >> > SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the following
> >> > days
> >> > with no intervention.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
>
>

Re: WSUS 3.0 SP1 / MSSQL$SBSMonitoring saga by Henrik

Henrik
Sun May 18 05:25:19 PDT 2008

Ok, thats my experience to.
What I also know Is that even If you have 3 or 4 Gb of Ram it doesnt always
help, the system gets short of resources.
It also often occurs when the reports are written, often at the time that
Backups has been clsed or even still are running.
A server ,default installed, doesnt have Its DBs tuned eating up Ram (Even
If SQL releases It fairly well) and with Exchange running taking alot of
Ram, when backups are running the server lacks resources. This Is my
experince with systems that has a couple of years on the neck.

Tune your systems regarding DBs, backup windows and other scheduled jobbs to
see if its easing things up.
Im currently running my own SBS on 2Gb and doesnt have this problem, having
alot of Ram availible.

//Henrik, MCP-SBS

"SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
meddelandet news:D24533C6-6239-4762-BEFF-EAE29366DF60@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your reply Henrik
>
> It would appear to be so in most cases. We have found servers with 2Gb
> RAM
> running WSUS 2.0 don't give this error, but when WSUS 3.0 SP1 gets loaded,
> the problem appears.
>
> We look after about 30 SBS servers and this pattern is emerging, except
> for
> on one server that does have 4Gb ram already. This is also a fairly
> recently
> implemented server, so I am confident that it is not suffering form other
> problems. In fact, the day after accepting and applying the WSUS 3.0 SP1
> update, it reported the 'error'.
>
>
> "Henrik (Hear)" wrote:
>
>> I have had that problems just a few times and Its has always been related
>> to
>> the fact that the server was running out of resources (Ram etc).
>>
>> I cant speak for your environment but can you relate to this, the lack of
>> resources?
>>
>> //Henrik, MCP-SBS,
>>
>> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
>> meddelandet news:93FF82AF-E23D-4C22-A6A6-455C58BCC911@microsoft.com...
>> > hi Les
>> >
>> > Yes, this one
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > An error occurred on the page you are trying to view.
>> > ________________________________________
>> > To work around this problem, perform the following steps. After each
>> > step,
>> > try again to access the page.
>> > . Ensure that the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service is started.
>> > . Ensure that the server is not low on memory or disk space.
>> > . Restart the server.
>> > . Verify that the server is functional and that there are no
>> > system-wide
>> > problems.
>> > . Run the Set Up Monitoring Reports and Alerts task in the Server
>> > Management
>> > Monitoring and Reporting taskpad.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm not clear on what the problem is. Is it that the monitoring page
>> >> won't
>> >> render (display)?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
>> >> ________________________
>> >> Get the SBS BPA here:
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940439/en-us
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:2A64AF3C-DA74-4C19-BE71-3E1B64AD1A60@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Good morning forum
>> >> >
>> >> > Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and
>> >> > MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
>> >> > issue that works and stays working?
>> >> >
>> >> > I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with posts
>> >> > that
>> >> > appear as though the problem still exists?
>> >> >
>> >> > Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days, then
>> >> > the
>> >> > SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the
>> >> > following
>> >> > days
>> >> > with no intervention.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>
>>



Re: WSUS 3.0 SP1 / MSSQL$SBSMonitoring saga by Henrik

Henrik
Sun May 18 05:38:12 PDT 2008

Here Is an excellent blog post on this from Susann Bradley.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/12/25/adjusting-sql-embedded-instances.aspx

//Henrik

"Henrik (Hear)" <henrik-at-hotmail-com> skrev i meddelandet
news:evOx8IOuIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Ok, thats my experience to.
> What I also know Is that even If you have 3 or 4 Gb of Ram it doesnt
> always help, the system gets short of resources.
> It also often occurs when the reports are written, often at the time that
> Backups has been clsed or even still are running.
> A server ,default installed, doesnt have Its DBs tuned eating up Ram (Even
> If SQL releases It fairly well) and with Exchange running taking alot of
> Ram, when backups are running the server lacks resources. This Is my
> experince with systems that has a couple of years on the neck.
>
> Tune your systems regarding DBs, backup windows and other scheduled jobbs
> to see if its easing things up.
> Im currently running my own SBS on 2Gb and doesnt have this problem,
> having alot of Ram availible.
>
> //Henrik, MCP-SBS
>
> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
> meddelandet news:D24533C6-6239-4762-BEFF-EAE29366DF60@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks for your reply Henrik
>>
>> It would appear to be so in most cases. We have found servers with 2Gb
>> RAM
>> running WSUS 2.0 don't give this error, but when WSUS 3.0 SP1 gets
>> loaded,
>> the problem appears.
>>
>> We look after about 30 SBS servers and this pattern is emerging, except
>> for
>> on one server that does have 4Gb ram already. This is also a fairly
>> recently
>> implemented server, so I am confident that it is not suffering form other
>> problems. In fact, the day after accepting and applying the WSUS 3.0 SP1
>> update, it reported the 'error'.
>>
>>
>> "Henrik (Hear)" wrote:
>>
>>> I have had that problems just a few times and Its has always been
>>> related to
>>> the fact that the server was running out of resources (Ram etc).
>>>
>>> I cant speak for your environment but can you relate to this, the lack
>>> of
>>> resources?
>>>
>>> //Henrik, MCP-SBS,
>>>
>>> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
>>> meddelandet news:93FF82AF-E23D-4C22-A6A6-455C58BCC911@microsoft.com...
>>> > hi Les
>>> >
>>> > Yes, this one
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > An error occurred on the page you are trying to view.
>>> > ________________________________________
>>> > To work around this problem, perform the following steps. After each
>>> > step,
>>> > try again to access the page.
>>> > . Ensure that the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service is started.
>>> > . Ensure that the server is not low on memory or disk space.
>>> > . Restart the server.
>>> > . Verify that the server is functional and that there are no
>>> > system-wide
>>> > problems.
>>> > . Run the Set Up Monitoring Reports and Alerts task in the Server
>>> > Management
>>> > Monitoring and Reporting taskpad.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I'm not clear on what the problem is. Is it that the monitoring page
>>> >> won't
>>> >> render (display)?
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
>>> >> ________________________
>>> >> Get the SBS BPA here:
>>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940439/en-us
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> >> message
>>> >> news:2A64AF3C-DA74-4C19-BE71-3E1B64AD1A60@microsoft.com...
>>> >> > Good morning forum
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and
>>> >> > MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
>>> >> > issue that works and stays working?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with posts
>>> >> > that
>>> >> > appear as though the problem still exists?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days,
>>> >> > then
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the
>>> >> > following
>>> >> > days
>>> >> > with no intervention.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>



Re: WSUS 3.0 SP1 / MSSQL$SBSMonitoring saga by SitsWithMouse

SitsWithMouse
Sun May 18 06:08:00 PDT 2008

Hi Henrik

That is actually part of a service we offer our clients. We have their
server reports come to us daily and we verifiy their server statuses that
way. All SQL memory usage is managed as per Susans website. We set the max
memory usage to 70 to tweak the servers performances and do that for all sql
instances running.

The WSUS 3.0 causing the failing of server reports is picked up because of
these daily reports.

We consider 2Gb minimum server memory (that was prior to WSUS 3.0), so it
sounds like low memory resources is not something any of our servers suffer
from, which makes this all tbe more frustrating.

There have been plenty of threads around this topic so its strange that
there is no definitive solution to this particular issue.



"Henrik (Hear)" wrote:

> Here Is an excellent blog post on this from Susann Bradley.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/12/25/adjusting-sql-embedded-instances.aspx
>
> //Henrik
>
> "Henrik (Hear)" <henrik-at-hotmail-com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:evOx8IOuIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Ok, thats my experience to.
> > What I also know Is that even If you have 3 or 4 Gb of Ram it doesnt
> > always help, the system gets short of resources.
> > It also often occurs when the reports are written, often at the time that
> > Backups has been clsed or even still are running.
> > A server ,default installed, doesnt have Its DBs tuned eating up Ram (Even
> > If SQL releases It fairly well) and with Exchange running taking alot of
> > Ram, when backups are running the server lacks resources. This Is my
> > experince with systems that has a couple of years on the neck.
> >
> > Tune your systems regarding DBs, backup windows and other scheduled jobbs
> > to see if its easing things up.
> > Im currently running my own SBS on 2Gb and doesnt have this problem,
> > having alot of Ram availible.
> >
> > //Henrik, MCP-SBS
> >
> > "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
> > meddelandet news:D24533C6-6239-4762-BEFF-EAE29366DF60@microsoft.com...
> >> Thanks for your reply Henrik
> >>
> >> It would appear to be so in most cases. We have found servers with 2Gb
> >> RAM
> >> running WSUS 2.0 don't give this error, but when WSUS 3.0 SP1 gets
> >> loaded,
> >> the problem appears.
> >>
> >> We look after about 30 SBS servers and this pattern is emerging, except
> >> for
> >> on one server that does have 4Gb ram already. This is also a fairly
> >> recently
> >> implemented server, so I am confident that it is not suffering form other
> >> problems. In fact, the day after accepting and applying the WSUS 3.0 SP1
> >> update, it reported the 'error'.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Henrik (Hear)" wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have had that problems just a few times and Its has always been
> >>> related to
> >>> the fact that the server was running out of resources (Ram etc).
> >>>
> >>> I cant speak for your environment but can you relate to this, the lack
> >>> of
> >>> resources?
> >>>
> >>> //Henrik, MCP-SBS,
> >>>
> >>> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
> >>> meddelandet news:93FF82AF-E23D-4C22-A6A6-455C58BCC911@microsoft.com...
> >>> > hi Les
> >>> >
> >>> > Yes, this one
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > An error occurred on the page you are trying to view.
> >>> > ________________________________________
> >>> > To work around this problem, perform the following steps. After each
> >>> > step,
> >>> > try again to access the page.
> >>> > . Ensure that the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service is started.
> >>> > . Ensure that the server is not low on memory or disk space.
> >>> > . Restart the server.
> >>> > . Verify that the server is functional and that there are no
> >>> > system-wide
> >>> > problems.
> >>> > . Run the Set Up Monitoring Reports and Alerts task in the Server
> >>> > Management
> >>> > Monitoring and Reporting taskpad.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> I'm not clear on what the problem is. Is it that the monitoring page
> >>> >> won't
> >>> >> render (display)?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
> >>> >> ________________________
> >>> >> Get the SBS BPA here:
> >>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940439/en-us
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >>> >> message
> >>> >> news:2A64AF3C-DA74-4C19-BE71-3E1B64AD1A60@microsoft.com...
> >>> >> > Good morning forum
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and
> >>> >> > MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
> >>> >> > issue that works and stays working?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with posts
> >>> >> > that
> >>> >> > appear as though the problem still exists?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days,
> >>> >> > then
> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> > SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the
> >>> >> > following
> >>> >> > days
> >>> >> > with no intervention.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: WSUS 3.0 SP1 / MSSQL$SBSMonitoring saga by Henrik

Henrik
Sun May 18 06:54:34 PDT 2008

Ok, It was a thought though. You are writing that you are using the 3.0
version of WSUS, any thoughts on going to WSUS 3.0 SP1 that comes with WSUS
downloads In the 3.0 RTM version? Maybe you will have a solution there, I
dont know exactly what fixes It includes.

//Henrik


"SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
meddelandet news:9F7816B9-9F15-44C0-985E-8DE52D8BE940@microsoft.com...
> Hi Henrik
>
> That is actually part of a service we offer our clients. We have their
> server reports come to us daily and we verifiy their server statuses that
> way. All SQL memory usage is managed as per Susans website. We set the
> max
> memory usage to 70 to tweak the servers performances and do that for all
> sql
> instances running.
>
> The WSUS 3.0 causing the failing of server reports is picked up because of
> these daily reports.
>
> We consider 2Gb minimum server memory (that was prior to WSUS 3.0), so it
> sounds like low memory resources is not something any of our servers
> suffer
> from, which makes this all tbe more frustrating.
>
> There have been plenty of threads around this topic so its strange that
> there is no definitive solution to this particular issue.
>
>
>
> "Henrik (Hear)" wrote:
>
>> Here Is an excellent blog post on this from Susann Bradley.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/12/25/adjusting-sql-embedded-instances.aspx
>>
>> //Henrik
>>
>> "Henrik (Hear)" <henrik-at-hotmail-com> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:evOx8IOuIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > Ok, thats my experience to.
>> > What I also know Is that even If you have 3 or 4 Gb of Ram it doesnt
>> > always help, the system gets short of resources.
>> > It also often occurs when the reports are written, often at the time
>> > that
>> > Backups has been clsed or even still are running.
>> > A server ,default installed, doesnt have Its DBs tuned eating up Ram
>> > (Even
>> > If SQL releases It fairly well) and with Exchange running taking alot
>> > of
>> > Ram, when backups are running the server lacks resources. This Is my
>> > experince with systems that has a couple of years on the neck.
>> >
>> > Tune your systems regarding DBs, backup windows and other scheduled
>> > jobbs
>> > to see if its easing things up.
>> > Im currently running my own SBS on 2Gb and doesnt have this problem,
>> > having alot of Ram availible.
>> >
>> > //Henrik, MCP-SBS
>> >
>> > "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
>> > meddelandet news:D24533C6-6239-4762-BEFF-EAE29366DF60@microsoft.com...
>> >> Thanks for your reply Henrik
>> >>
>> >> It would appear to be so in most cases. We have found servers with
>> >> 2Gb
>> >> RAM
>> >> running WSUS 2.0 don't give this error, but when WSUS 3.0 SP1 gets
>> >> loaded,
>> >> the problem appears.
>> >>
>> >> We look after about 30 SBS servers and this pattern is emerging,
>> >> except
>> >> for
>> >> on one server that does have 4Gb ram already. This is also a fairly
>> >> recently
>> >> implemented server, so I am confident that it is not suffering form
>> >> other
>> >> problems. In fact, the day after accepting and applying the WSUS 3.0
>> >> SP1
>> >> update, it reported the 'error'.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Henrik (Hear)" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I have had that problems just a few times and Its has always been
>> >>> related to
>> >>> the fact that the server was running out of resources (Ram etc).
>> >>>
>> >>> I cant speak for your environment but can you relate to this, the
>> >>> lack
>> >>> of
>> >>> resources?
>> >>>
>> >>> //Henrik, MCP-SBS,
>> >>>
>> >>> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
>> >>> meddelandet
>> >>> news:93FF82AF-E23D-4C22-A6A6-455C58BCC911@microsoft.com...
>> >>> > hi Les
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Yes, this one
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > An error occurred on the page you are trying to view.
>> >>> > ________________________________________
>> >>> > To work around this problem, perform the following steps. After
>> >>> > each
>> >>> > step,
>> >>> > try again to access the page.
>> >>> > . Ensure that the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service is started.
>> >>> > . Ensure that the server is not low on memory or disk space.
>> >>> > . Restart the server.
>> >>> > . Verify that the server is functional and that there are no
>> >>> > system-wide
>> >>> > problems.
>> >>> > . Run the Set Up Monitoring Reports and Alerts task in the Server
>> >>> > Management
>> >>> > Monitoring and Reporting taskpad.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> I'm not clear on what the problem is. Is it that the monitoring
>> >>> >> page
>> >>> >> won't
>> >>> >> render (display)?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
>> >>> >> ________________________
>> >>> >> Get the SBS BPA here:
>> >>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940439/en-us
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >>> >> message
>> >>> >> news:2A64AF3C-DA74-4C19-BE71-3E1B64AD1A60@microsoft.com...
>> >>> >> > Good morning forum
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and
>> >>> >> > MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
>> >>> >> > issue that works and stays working?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with
>> >>> >> > posts
>> >>> >> > that
>> >>> >> > appear as though the problem still exists?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days,
>> >>> >> > then
>> >>> >> > the
>> >>> >> > SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the
>> >>> >> > following
>> >>> >> > days
>> >>> >> > with no intervention.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>



Re: WSUS 3.0 SP1 / MSSQL$SBSMonitoring saga by SitsWithMouse

SitsWithMouse
Sun May 18 07:01:00 PDT 2008

It is WSUS 3.0 SP1 that gets downloaded by WSUS 2.x that is installed
directly of the R2 media

"Henrik (Hear)" wrote:

> Ok, It was a thought though. You are writing that you are using the 3.0
> version of WSUS, any thoughts on going to WSUS 3.0 SP1 that comes with WSUS
> downloads In the 3.0 RTM version? Maybe you will have a solution there, I
> dont know exactly what fixes It includes.
>
> //Henrik
>
>
> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
> meddelandet news:9F7816B9-9F15-44C0-985E-8DE52D8BE940@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Henrik
> >
> > That is actually part of a service we offer our clients. We have their
> > server reports come to us daily and we verifiy their server statuses that
> > way. All SQL memory usage is managed as per Susans website. We set the
> > max
> > memory usage to 70 to tweak the servers performances and do that for all
> > sql
> > instances running.
> >
> > The WSUS 3.0 causing the failing of server reports is picked up because of
> > these daily reports.
> >
> > We consider 2Gb minimum server memory (that was prior to WSUS 3.0), so it
> > sounds like low memory resources is not something any of our servers
> > suffer
> > from, which makes this all tbe more frustrating.
> >
> > There have been plenty of threads around this topic so its strange that
> > there is no definitive solution to this particular issue.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Henrik (Hear)" wrote:
> >
> >> Here Is an excellent blog post on this from Susann Bradley.
> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/12/25/adjusting-sql-embedded-instances.aspx
> >>
> >> //Henrik
> >>
> >> "Henrik (Hear)" <henrik-at-hotmail-com> skrev i meddelandet
> >> news:evOx8IOuIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > Ok, thats my experience to.
> >> > What I also know Is that even If you have 3 or 4 Gb of Ram it doesnt
> >> > always help, the system gets short of resources.
> >> > It also often occurs when the reports are written, often at the time
> >> > that
> >> > Backups has been clsed or even still are running.
> >> > A server ,default installed, doesnt have Its DBs tuned eating up Ram
> >> > (Even
> >> > If SQL releases It fairly well) and with Exchange running taking alot
> >> > of
> >> > Ram, when backups are running the server lacks resources. This Is my
> >> > experince with systems that has a couple of years on the neck.
> >> >
> >> > Tune your systems regarding DBs, backup windows and other scheduled
> >> > jobbs
> >> > to see if its easing things up.
> >> > Im currently running my own SBS on 2Gb and doesnt have this problem,
> >> > having alot of Ram availible.
> >> >
> >> > //Henrik, MCP-SBS
> >> >
> >> > "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
> >> > meddelandet news:D24533C6-6239-4762-BEFF-EAE29366DF60@microsoft.com...
> >> >> Thanks for your reply Henrik
> >> >>
> >> >> It would appear to be so in most cases. We have found servers with
> >> >> 2Gb
> >> >> RAM
> >> >> running WSUS 2.0 don't give this error, but when WSUS 3.0 SP1 gets
> >> >> loaded,
> >> >> the problem appears.
> >> >>
> >> >> We look after about 30 SBS servers and this pattern is emerging,
> >> >> except
> >> >> for
> >> >> on one server that does have 4Gb ram already. This is also a fairly
> >> >> recently
> >> >> implemented server, so I am confident that it is not suffering form
> >> >> other
> >> >> problems. In fact, the day after accepting and applying the WSUS 3.0
> >> >> SP1
> >> >> update, it reported the 'error'.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Henrik (Hear)" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I have had that problems just a few times and Its has always been
> >> >>> related to
> >> >>> the fact that the server was running out of resources (Ram etc).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I cant speak for your environment but can you relate to this, the
> >> >>> lack
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> resources?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> //Henrik, MCP-SBS,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i
> >> >>> meddelandet
> >> >>> news:93FF82AF-E23D-4C22-A6A6-455C58BCC911@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> > hi Les
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Yes, this one
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > An error occurred on the page you are trying to view.
> >> >>> > ________________________________________
> >> >>> > To work around this problem, perform the following steps. After
> >> >>> > each
> >> >>> > step,
> >> >>> > try again to access the page.
> >> >>> > . Ensure that the MSSQL$SBSMONITORING service is started.
> >> >>> > . Ensure that the server is not low on memory or disk space.
> >> >>> > . Restart the server.
> >> >>> > . Verify that the server is functional and that there are no
> >> >>> > system-wide
> >> >>> > problems.
> >> >>> > . Run the Set Up Monitoring Reports and Alerts task in the Server
> >> >>> > Management
> >> >>> > Monitoring and Reporting taskpad.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> I'm not clear on what the problem is. Is it that the monitoring
> >> >>> >> page
> >> >>> >> won't
> >> >>> >> render (display)?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> --
> >> >>> >> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
> >> >>> >> ________________________
> >> >>> >> Get the SBS BPA here:
> >> >>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940439/en-us
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "SitsWithMouse" <SitsWithMouse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >>> >> message
> >> >>> >> news:2A64AF3C-DA74-4C19-BE71-3E1B64AD1A60@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> >> > Good morning forum
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Has anyone found a solution to the WSUS 3.0 SP1 and
> >> >>> >> > MSSQP$SBSMonitoring
> >> >>> >> > issue that works and stays working?
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > I have read some of Les's posts but they were followed with
> >> >>> >> > posts
> >> >>> >> > that
> >> >>> >> > appear as though the problem still exists?
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Its quite frustrating as the reports work for a number of days,
> >> >>> >> > then
> >> >>> >> > the
> >> >>> >> > SBSMonitoring page gets emailed and then it works again the
> >> >>> >> > following
> >> >>> >> > days
> >> >>> >> > with no intervention.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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