Could anyone tell what will physically happen during the install of
the transition pack to the sbs 2003 server.

Do all my users need to be off the server ? Will it restart etc.

My customer is worried about downtime and having never done this I
cannot advise him as yet.

Thanks

Re: Transition pack sbs premium 2003 by Merv

Merv
Thu Mar 27 08:34:04 PDT 2008

Hopefully Charlie Russel (or someone else) can drop by and answer your
specific questions as I've never had to install the TP. Until then...

What to do before installing the Transition Pack
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2006/01/12/417350.aspx

Installation of the Windows SBS 2003 Transition Pack may silently fail on a
Windows SBS 2003-based computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914990

Activation Loop After Completing the SBS Transition Pack
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2007/01/29/activation-loop-after-completing-the-sbs-transition-pack.aspx

Before you run the Transition Pack
(Charlie Russel, MVP)
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs/browse_thread/thread/6170053b244d066f/85418bd58ec4434b?hl=en&lnk=st&q=sbs+transition+pack+charlie#85418bd58ec4434b

Windows 2003 sbs and transistion pack
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs/browse_thread/thread/3b25ca50d994927b/be749ca48fc9f90f?hl=en&lnk=st&q=sbs+2003+transition+pack+merv#be749ca48fc9f90f

SBS 2003 Transition Pack (install screen shots)
http://blogs.technet.com/moloyt/archive/2007/10/10/sbs-2003-transition-pack.aspx

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Dave P" <Davey.Proctor@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Could anyone tell what will physically happen during the install of
> the transition pack to the sbs 2003 server.
>
> Do all my users need to be off the server ? Will it restart etc.
>
> My customer is worried about downtime and having never done this I
> cannot advise him as yet.
>
> Thanks
>



Re: Transition pack sbs premium 2003 by Cris

Cris
Thu Mar 27 08:34:55 PDT 2008

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Yes there will be downtime...hard to say exactly
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Do all my users need to be off the server ? Will it restart etc.

My customer is worried about downtime and having never done this I
cannot advise him as yet.

Thanks

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Re: Transition pack sbs premium 2003 by Charlie

Charlie
Thu Mar 27 11:32:50 PDT 2008

Dave --
I've done this several times as part of the work with our R2 SBS book.
Here's my standard answer, which should cover most of what you're worried
about. Total time on a moderate-spec, virtualized system was about 2.5
hours. If there's anything else, just post again...

Before you run the Transition Pack there are a few steps you should take to
ensure a smooth transition:

1.) Do a thorough, complete, VERIFIED backup. If it isn't verified and
tested, it isn't a backup, IMHO.
2.) Clean up your HD. Remove temporary files, old logs, and so forth. Run
Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe)
3.) Defragment the HD. Use the built in, or use a good third party such as
PerfectDisk from Raxco.
4.) Disconnect the server from the internet completely. (Easiest way is just
unplug the network from the back of the server.)
5.) Stop any third party services that are running as a system account and
set them to disabled or uninstall them. This includes AV, disk utilities,
and any real-time monitoring programs.
6.) Remove Veritas BackupExec (see KB: 914990)
7.) Run regedit and check for the presence of the key:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Small Business. If it exists, remove it.

That's it. Just make sure you have the matching TP version to your SBS
version. (ie, SP1 for SP1 SBS, etc.)

Also, make sure you have media kits available for your individual server
software packages. You shouldn't need them, but it's good to have, just in
case.

Finally, just run the transition. Expect it to take 2+ hours, and 7 or more
reboots. Even if you give it the logon password, you may get prompted the
first reboot - I did in 4 of 7 transitions I did last spring. No discernable
pattern to it. Once that first one completes, though, you can go grab some
lunch/dinner/whatever and it should run by itself.




--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Dave P" <Davey.Proctor@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d9d90a33-42c0-417c-b61d-dea5da62ee32@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Could anyone tell what will physically happen during the install of
> the transition pack to the sbs 2003 server.
>
> Do all my users need to be off the server ? Will it restart etc.
>
> My customer is worried about downtime and having never done this I
> cannot advise him as yet.
>
> Thanks
>


Re: Transition pack sbs premium 2003 by Charlie

Charlie
Thu Mar 27 11:34:13 PDT 2008

You rang? <G>

Got it. Thanks. And feel free to "borrow" that standard answer if you don't
see me pop up with it.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ebvV%23$BkIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hopefully Charlie Russel (or someone else) can drop by and answer your
> specific questions as I've never had to install the TP. Until then...
>
> What to do before installing the Transition Pack
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2006/01/12/417350.aspx
>
> Installation of the Windows SBS 2003 Transition Pack may silently fail on
> a Windows SBS 2003-based computer
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914990
>
> Activation Loop After Completing the SBS Transition Pack
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2007/01/29/activation-loop-after-completing-the-sbs-transition-pack.aspx
>
> Before you run the Transition Pack
> (Charlie Russel, MVP)
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs/browse_thread/thread/6170053b244d066f/85418bd58ec4434b?hl=en&lnk=st&q=sbs+transition+pack+charlie#85418bd58ec4434b
>
> Windows 2003 sbs and transistion pack
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs/browse_thread/thread/3b25ca50d994927b/be749ca48fc9f90f?hl=en&lnk=st&q=sbs+2003+transition+pack+merv#be749ca48fc9f90f
>
> SBS 2003 Transition Pack (install screen shots)
> http://blogs.technet.com/moloyt/archive/2007/10/10/sbs-2003-transition-pack.aspx
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
>
> "Dave P" <Davey.Proctor@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d9d90a33-42c0-417c-b61d-dea5da62ee32@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Could anyone tell what will physically happen during the install of
>> the transition pack to the sbs 2003 server.
>>
>> Do all my users need to be off the server ? Will it restart etc.
>>
>> My customer is worried about downtime and having never done this I
>> cannot advise him as yet.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>


Re: Transition pack sbs premium 2003 by Dave

Dave
Fri Mar 28 04:31:41 PDT 2008

On 27 Mar, 18:32, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
> Dave --
> =A0 =A0 I've done this several times as part of the work with our R2 SBS b=
ook.
> Here's my standard answer, which should cover most of what you're worried
> about. Total time on a moderate-spec, virtualized system was about 2.5
> hours. If there's anything else, just post again...
>
> Before you run the Transition Pack there are a few steps you should take t=
o
> ensure a smooth transition:
>
> 1.) Do a thorough, complete, VERIFIED backup. If it isn't verified and
> tested, it isn't a backup, IMHO.
> 2.) Clean up your HD. Remove temporary files, old logs, and so forth. Run
> Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe)
> 3.) Defragment the HD. Use the built in, or use a good third party such as=

> PerfectDisk from Raxco.
> 4.) Disconnect the server from the internet completely. (Easiest way is ju=
st
> unplug the network from the back of the server.)
> 5.) Stop any third party services that are running as a system account and=

> set them to disabled or uninstall them. This includes AV, disk utilities,
> and any real-time monitoring programs.
> 6.) Remove Veritas BackupExec (see KB: 914990)
> 7.) Run regedit and check for the presence of the key:
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Small Business. If it exists, remove it.
>
> That's it. Just make sure you have the matching TP version to your SBS
> version. (ie, SP1 for SP1 SBS, etc.)
>
> Also, make sure you have media kits available for your individual server
> software packages. You shouldn't need them, but it's good to have, just in=

> case.
>
> Finally, just run the transition. Expect it to take 2+ hours, and 7 or mor=
e
> reboots. Even if you give it the logon password, you may get prompted the
> first reboot - I did in 4 of 7 transitions I did last spring. No discernab=
le
> pattern to it. Once that first one completes, though, you can go grab some=

> lunch/dinner/whatever and it should run by itself.
>
> --
> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=
/charlie.russel
>
> "Dave P" <Davey.Proc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d9d90a33-42c0-417c-b61d-dea5da62ee32@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Could anyone tell what will physically happen during the install of
> > the transition pack to the sbs 2003 server.
>
> > Do all my users need to be off the server ? =A0Will it restart etc.
>
> > My customer is worried about downtime and having never done this I
> > cannot advise him as yet.
>
> > Thanks

Many thanks for the information there Charlie, that covers my bases i
think.

Im looking round for the SP1 Transition pack but only seem to be
finding the R2 at the moment, will just save me a bit of work there
getting it upgraded. I'm going to Microsoft for the media kits or can
I use my Action pack CD ? as the Exchange is going to be moved off to
a new server.

Dave

Re: Transition pack sbs premium 2003 by Charlie

Charlie
Fri Mar 28 07:44:32 PDT 2008

you should be able to use the AP media.

Just be aware that your exchange move won't be any different than it would
be on a standard exchange install in Server 2k3. You'll still need to
migrate your mailboxes, etc. Google for the details. When you're done
running the TP, you will have Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition, and
Microsoft Exchange 2003 Standard Edition.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Dave P" <Davey.Proctor@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f01f5e46-cea7-4b96-8af8-6c197f4de7dc@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 27 Mar, 18:32, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
> Dave --
> I've done this several times as part of the work with our R2 SBS book.
> Here's my standard answer, which should cover most of what you're worried
> about. Total time on a moderate-spec, virtualized system was about 2.5
> hours. If there's anything else, just post again...
>
> Before you run the Transition Pack there are a few steps you should take
> to
> ensure a smooth transition:
>
> 1.) Do a thorough, complete, VERIFIED backup. If it isn't verified and
> tested, it isn't a backup, IMHO.
> 2.) Clean up your HD. Remove temporary files, old logs, and so forth. Run
> Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe)
> 3.) Defragment the HD. Use the built in, or use a good third party such as
> PerfectDisk from Raxco.
> 4.) Disconnect the server from the internet completely. (Easiest way is
> just
> unplug the network from the back of the server.)
> 5.) Stop any third party services that are running as a system account and
> set them to disabled or uninstall them. This includes AV, disk utilities,
> and any real-time monitoring programs.
> 6.) Remove Veritas BackupExec (see KB: 914990)
> 7.) Run regedit and check for the presence of the key:
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Small Business. If it exists, remove it.
>
> That's it. Just make sure you have the matching TP version to your SBS
> version. (ie, SP1 for SP1 SBS, etc.)
>
> Also, make sure you have media kits available for your individual server
> software packages. You shouldn't need them, but it's good to have, just in
> case.
>
> Finally, just run the transition. Expect it to take 2+ hours, and 7 or
> more
> reboots. Even if you give it the logon password, you may get prompted the
> first reboot - I did in 4 of 7 transitions I did last spring. No
> discernable
> pattern to it. Once that first one completes, though, you can go grab some
> lunch/dinner/whatever and it should run by itself.
>
> --
> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
> "Dave P" <Davey.Proc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d9d90a33-42c0-417c-b61d-dea5da62ee32@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Could anyone tell what will physically happen during the install of
> > the transition pack to the sbs 2003 server.
>
> > Do all my users need to be off the server ? Will it restart etc.
>
> > My customer is worried about downtime and having never done this I
> > cannot advise him as yet.
>
> > Thanks

Many thanks for the information there Charlie, that covers my bases i
think.

Im looking round for the SP1 Transition pack but only seem to be
finding the R2 at the moment, will just save me a bit of work there
getting it upgraded. I'm going to Microsoft for the media kits or can
I use my Action pack CD ? as the Exchange is going to be moved off to
a new server.

Dave