Hello all,
Really bummed and tired - reviewed the newsgroup thoroughly before running
the Transition Pack for our Premium SBS server, although some problems were
encountered the server is up and running all applications just fine.

The problem - Although I see the new File Service Resource Manager and other
non-SBS components - I DO NOT see the DFS Management pieces available as I do
in our other 2 W2003 R2 servers. I spoke with a higher-level Microsoft rep
just this last week who assured me this function would be available.

Please - any help is appreciated. I need this component to sync to our new
office this week.

Thanks everyone!

Brian

Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by Susan

Susan
Sat May 03 18:22:28 PDT 2008

bcmoore wrote:
> Hello all,
> Really bummed and tired - reviewed the newsgroup thoroughly before running
> the Transition Pack for our Premium SBS server, although some problems were
> encountered the server is up and running all applications just fine.
>
> The problem - Although I see the new File Service Resource Manager and other
> non-SBS components - I DO NOT see the DFS Management pieces available as I do
> in our other 2 W2003 R2 servers. I spoke with a higher-level Microsoft rep
> just this last week who assured me this function would be available.
>
> Please - any help is appreciated. I need this component to sync to our new
> office this week.
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> Brian
You might have to install the R2 media from a "real" Win2k3 r2 as the
SBS 2k3 r2 media never had that piece.

Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by Cris

Cris
Sat May 03 18:57:08 PDT 2008

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And you couldn't have searched too thoroughly because Charlie Russel and =
I addressed this for someone else the other day and made it quite clear =
you do not get DFS-R after transition pack

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
------------------------------------------
MVPs Do Not Work For Microsoft
-----------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly. Please post only in the newsgroup so =
all can benefit


"bcmoore" <bcmoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
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Hello all,
Really bummed and tired - reviewed the newsgroup thoroughly before =
running=20
the Transition Pack for our Premium SBS server, although some problems =
were=20
encountered the server is up and running all applications just fine.

The problem - Although I see the new File Service Resource Manager and =
other=20
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I do=20
in our other 2 W2003 R2 servers. I spoke with a higher-level Microsoft =
rep=20
just this last week who assured me this function would be available.

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Thanks everyone!

Brian
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Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by Charlie

Charlie
Sat May 03 22:21:59 PDT 2008

You need to upgrade to Server 2003 R2. The TP does NOT take you to R2.

If your server was on SBS 2003 R2, you _might_ already have a license for
Server R2 as part of the TP - I don't have any R2 TP's to check, mine are
SP1 only. But in any case, you'd need to install the second CD of an R2
server. _IF_ you have the license for it (and the TP will make this clear),
then you can order the media and install it. Otherwise, if the TP only
coverts you to Server 2k3 SP1, you'll need to buy an upgrade to R2.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"bcmoore" <bcmoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CE8ECBCA-8E52-415F-8F95-32B7F119DCFA@microsoft.com...
> Hello all,
> Really bummed and tired - reviewed the newsgroup thoroughly before running
> the Transition Pack for our Premium SBS server, although some problems
> were
> encountered the server is up and running all applications just fine.
>
> The problem - Although I see the new File Service Resource Manager and
> other
> non-SBS components - I DO NOT see the DFS Management pieces available as I
> do
> in our other 2 W2003 R2 servers. I spoke with a higher-level Microsoft rep
> just this last week who assured me this function would be available.
>
> Please - any help is appreciated. I need this component to sync to our new
> office this week.
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> Brian


Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by kj

kj
Sat May 03 23:29:51 PDT 2008

Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
> You need to upgrade to Server 2003 R2. The TP does NOT take you to R2.
>
> If your server was on SBS 2003 R2, you _might_ already have a license
> for Server R2 as part of the TP - I don't have any R2 TP's to check,
> mine are SP1 only. But in any case, you'd need to install the second
> CD of an R2 server. _IF_ you have the license for it (and the TP will
> make this clear), then you can order the media and install it.
> Otherwise, if the TP only coverts you to Server 2k3 SP1, you'll need
> to buy an upgrade to R2.

...and AD forest schema version 31 is needed as well. (SBS R2 is V30)


>
>
> "bcmoore" <bcmoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CE8ECBCA-8E52-415F-8F95-32B7F119DCFA@microsoft.com...
>> Hello all,
>> Really bummed and tired - reviewed the newsgroup thoroughly before
>> running the Transition Pack for our Premium SBS server, although
>> some problems were
>> encountered the server is up and running all applications just fine.
>>
>> The problem - Although I see the new File Service Resource Manager
>> and other
>> non-SBS components - I DO NOT see the DFS Management pieces
>> available as I do
>> in our other 2 W2003 R2 servers. I spoke with a higher-level
>> Microsoft rep just this last week who assured me this function would
>> be available. Please - any help is appreciated. I need this component to
>> sync to
>> our new office this week.
>>
>> Thanks everyone!
>>
>> Brian

--
/kj



Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by bcmoore

bcmoore
Sun May 04 09:05:00 PDT 2008

Susan,Charlie,Kj - thanks for the constructive comments and suggestions. I
appreciate your time. I'll get back to you all on the outcome.

Cris - thanks for recognizing my inadequacies. I'll try harder next time...

-b

Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by Charlie

Charlie
Sun May 04 10:20:48 PDT 2008

Good point.

I've asked a resource I have for an R2 version of the TP so that I can run
it here and update my guidance. We'll see if they come through.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:euaEEBbrIHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
>> You need to upgrade to Server 2003 R2. The TP does NOT take you to R2.
>>
>> If your server was on SBS 2003 R2, you _might_ already have a license
>> for Server R2 as part of the TP - I don't have any R2 TP's to check,
>> mine are SP1 only. But in any case, you'd need to install the second
>> CD of an R2 server. _IF_ you have the license for it (and the TP will
>> make this clear), then you can order the media and install it.
>> Otherwise, if the TP only coverts you to Server 2k3 SP1, you'll need
>> to buy an upgrade to R2.
>
> ...and AD forest schema version 31 is needed as well. (SBS R2 is V30)
>
>
>>
>>
>> "bcmoore" <bcmoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CE8ECBCA-8E52-415F-8F95-32B7F119DCFA@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello all,
>>> Really bummed and tired - reviewed the newsgroup thoroughly before
>>> running the Transition Pack for our Premium SBS server, although
>>> some problems were
>>> encountered the server is up and running all applications just fine.
>>>
>>> The problem - Although I see the new File Service Resource Manager
>>> and other
>>> non-SBS components - I DO NOT see the DFS Management pieces
>>> available as I do
>>> in our other 2 W2003 R2 servers. I spoke with a higher-level
>>> Microsoft rep just this last week who assured me this function would
>>> be available. Please - any help is appreciated. I need this component to
>>> sync to
>>> our new office this week.
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>
>>> Brian
>
> --
> /kj
>


Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by Cris

Cris
Sun May 04 12:37:54 PDT 2008

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it's not about findiing fault, but you stated "reviewed the newsgroup =
thoroughly" , but it would appear you chose not to take the advise given =
in your own previous postings

on 4/28/2008 you posted with the subject " Does Transition Pack then =
allow use of DFS Replication Service"

Charlie clearly pointed out in that post "Careful. I said R2, not =
service pack. SP2 doesn't include the R2 bits,=20
that's a separate issue."

I replied after that "
Just to make sure Charlies Point is crystal clear
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Windows Server 2003 at SP1 or SP2 (which ever you've applied)
You would then still need to spend extra dollars to upgrade that to =
Windows Server 2003 R2 to get DFS Replication Services"

And Charlie reiterated again
"Yes. R2 is a separate upgrade"

I'm sorry that you got bad advise when speaking with someone at =
Microsoft, but we gave you the definitive answer last week.



--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
------------------------------------------
MVPs Do Not Work For Microsoft
-----------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly. Please post only in the newsgroup so =
all can benefit


"bcmoore" <bcmoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
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appreciate your time. I'll get back to you all on the outcome.

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Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by bcmoore

bcmoore
Sun May 04 14:02:00 PDT 2008



"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> it's not about findiing fault, but you stated "reviewed the newsgroup thoroughly" , but it would appear you chose not to take the advise given in your own previous postings
>
> on 4/28/2008 you posted with the subject " Does Transition Pack then allow use of DFS Replication Service"
>
> Charlie clearly pointed out in that post "Careful. I said R2, not service pack. SP2 doesn't include the R2 bits,
> that's a separate issue."
>
> I replied after that "
> Just to make sure Charlies Point is crystal clear
> If you apply the Transition Pack to your SBS server, you wind up with a Windows Server 2003 at SP1 or SP2 (which ever you've applied)
> You would then still need to spend extra dollars to upgrade that to Windows Server 2003 R2 to get DFS Replication Services"
>
> And Charlie reiterated again
> "Yes. R2 is a separate upgrade"
>
> I'm sorry that you got bad advise when speaking with someone at Microsoft, but we gave you the definitive answer last week.
>
Cris,

I definitely appreciate your taking the time to advice me on both my posts.
I tried to take the advice of not only you wise men but also Microsoft
consultants. When we received the TP labeld Windows 2003 R2, I was under the
impression that would take me where I needed to be. I need to slow down and
deliberate a little more, I guess.

Now after running the 'W2K3 R2' Transition Pack and being at Windows Server
2003 Standard SP2 (Version 5.2 Build 3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.070304-2240: Service
Pack 2) where do I go from here? I do have Windows 2003 R2 discs - can I use
them to upgrade? KB Article 912309 implies that the second CD can be used but
when I do so the installation menu gives me the option to 'Continue with
Windows Server 2003 R2 Setup'. Is this the option I need?

Thanks again guys. Cris - I respect and honor your advice. Thanks for
helping me through this.

-brian

Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by Cris

Cris
Sun May 04 19:31:54 PDT 2008

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R2 is not an update but rather an upgrade (i.e. there is a cost to it) =
and I don't consider myself qualified to answer whether the TP gives you =
the right to "upgrade" using the other media
Because the TP is labeled R2, one might infer that you can.

Since I don't typically work with standard server versions, Charlie =
maybe be better equipped to answer the question regarding "continuing =
the installation"=20

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
------------------------------------------
MVPs Do Not Work For Microsoft
-----------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly. Please post only in the newsgroup so =
all can benefit


"bcmoore" <bcmoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
news:33481FD4-6CFB-47BA-AF3C-DFC805BC62DB@microsoft.com...


"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> it's not about findiing fault, but you stated "reviewed the newsgroup =
thoroughly" , but it would appear you chose not to take the advise given =
in your own previous postings
>=20
> on 4/28/2008 you posted with the subject " Does Transition Pack then =
allow use of DFS Replication Service"
>=20
> Charlie clearly pointed out in that post "Careful. I said R2, not =
service pack. SP2 doesn't include the R2 bits,=20
> that's a separate issue."
>=20
> I replied after that "
> Just to make sure Charlies Point is crystal clear
> If you apply the Transition Pack to your SBS server, you wind up with =
a Windows Server 2003 at SP1 or SP2 (which ever you've applied)
> You would then still need to spend extra dollars to upgrade that to =
Windows Server 2003 R2 to get DFS Replication Services"
>=20
> And Charlie reiterated again
> "Yes. R2 is a separate upgrade"
>=20
> I'm sorry that you got bad advise when speaking with someone at =
Microsoft, but we gave you the definitive answer last week.
>=20
Cris,

I definitely appreciate your taking the time to advice me on both my =
posts.=20
I tried to take the advice of not only you wise men but also Microsoft=20
consultants. When we received the TP labeld Windows 2003 R2, I was under =
the=20
impression that would take me where I needed to be. I need to slow down =
and=20
deliberate a little more, I guess.

Now after running the 'W2K3 R2' Transition Pack and being at Windows =
Server=20
2003 Standard SP2 (Version 5.2 Build 3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.070304-2240: =
Service=20
Pack 2) where do I go from here? I do have Windows 2003 R2 discs - can I =
use=20
them to upgrade? KB Article 912309 implies that the second CD can be =
used but=20
when I do so the installation menu gives me the option to 'Continue with =

Windows Server 2003 R2 Setup'. Is this the option I need?

Thanks again guys. Cris - I respect and honor your advice. Thanks for=20
helping me through this.

-brian
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media</FONT></DIV>
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infer that=20
you can.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since I don't typically work with =
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question=20
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can=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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you=20
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need to=20
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Replication Services"<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; And Charlie reiterated =
again<BR>&gt;=20
"Yes. R2 is a separate upgrade"<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm sorry that you got =
bad=20
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taking=20
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of not=20
only you wise men but also Microsoft <BR>consultants. When we received =
the TP=20
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me where=20
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being at=20
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here? I=20
do have Windows 2003 R2 discs - can I use <BR>them to upgrade? KB =
Article 912309=20
implies that the second CD can be used but <BR>when I do so the =
installation=20
menu gives me the option to 'Continue with <BR>Windows Server 2003 R2 =
Setup'. Is=20
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honor=20
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Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by Charlie

Charlie
Tue May 06 12:49:19 PDT 2008

I don't have direct knowledge here, Chris. I've asked my sources for a copy
of the R2 TP so I can run some tests, but all my original tests were done
before R2 shipped, so the R2 TP wasn't available yet. I would hope and
expect that continuing the R2 installation would be the correct option. I
guess the telling question is whether it wants you to provide an additional
PID. If not, then you should be OK.

I will post detailed result when they finally get me an updated TP. And
probably have Susan post it on her blog. (My blog being pretty much 64-bit
stuff only.)

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in
message news:OVG3vglrIHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
R2 is not an update but rather an upgrade (i.e. there is a cost to it) and I
don't consider myself qualified to answer whether the TP gives you the right
to "upgrade" using the other media
Because the TP is labeled R2, one might infer that you can.

Since I don't typically work with standard server versions, Charlie maybe be
better equipped to answer the question regarding "continuing the
installation"

--
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
------------------------------------------
MVPs Do Not Work For Microsoft
-----------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly. Please post only in the newsgroup so all
can benefit


"bcmoore" <bcmoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:33481FD4-6CFB-47BA-AF3C-DFC805BC62DB@microsoft.com...


"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> it's not about findiing fault, but you stated "reviewed the newsgroup
> thoroughly" , but it would appear you chose not to take the advise given
> in your own previous postings
>
> on 4/28/2008 you posted with the subject " Does Transition Pack then allow
> use of DFS Replication Service"
>
> Charlie clearly pointed out in that post "Careful. I said R2, not service
> pack. SP2 doesn't include the R2 bits,
> that's a separate issue."
>
> I replied after that "
> Just to make sure Charlies Point is crystal clear
> If you apply the Transition Pack to your SBS server, you wind up with a
> Windows Server 2003 at SP1 or SP2 (which ever you've applied)
> You would then still need to spend extra dollars to upgrade that to
> Windows Server 2003 R2 to get DFS Replication Services"
>
> And Charlie reiterated again
> "Yes. R2 is a separate upgrade"
>
> I'm sorry that you got bad advise when speaking with someone at Microsoft,
> but we gave you the definitive answer last week.
>
Cris,

I definitely appreciate your taking the time to advice me on both my posts.
I tried to take the advice of not only you wise men but also Microsoft
consultants. When we received the TP labeld Windows 2003 R2, I was under the
impression that would take me where I needed to be. I need to slow down and
deliberate a little more, I guess.

Now after running the 'W2K3 R2' Transition Pack and being at Windows Server
2003 Standard SP2 (Version 5.2 Build 3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.070304-2240: Service
Pack 2) where do I go from here? I do have Windows 2003 R2 discs - can I use
them to upgrade? KB Article 912309 implies that the second CD can be used
but
when I do so the installation menu gives me the option to 'Continue with
Windows Server 2003 R2 Setup'. Is this the option I need?

Thanks again guys. Cris - I respect and honor your advice. Thanks for
helping me through this.

-brian


Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by kj

kj
Tue May 06 13:27:47 PDT 2008

Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
> I don't have direct knowledge here, Chris. I've asked my sources for
> a copy of the R2 TP so I can run some tests, but all my original
> tests were done before R2 shipped, so the R2 TP wasn't available yet.
> I would hope and expect that continuing the R2 installation would be
> the correct option. I guess the telling question is whether it wants
> you to provide an additional PID. If not, then you should be OK.
>
> I will post detailed result when they finally get me an updated TP.
> And probably have Susan post it on her blog. (My blog being pretty
> much 64-bit stuff only.)
>

Can't speak well to the transition info, but R2 is definitely two different
products. The SBS one has the WSUS stuff and missing the DFS-R, schema
updates, and the other standard windows R2 goodies. Two products, two SKU's
and two licenses.

Now if a R2 TP buyer *should* be getting the standard R2 media and license
is a different matter.

> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote
> in message news:OVG3vglrIHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> R2 is not an update but rather an upgrade (i.e. there is a cost to
> it) and I don't consider myself qualified to answer whether the TP
> gives you the right to "upgrade" using the other media
> Because the TP is labeled R2, one might infer that you can.
>
> Since I don't typically work with standard server versions, Charlie
> maybe be better equipped to answer the question regarding "continuing
> the installation"
>
>
>> it's not about findiing fault, but you stated "reviewed the newsgroup
>> thoroughly" , but it would appear you chose not to take the advise
>> given in your own previous postings
>>
>> on 4/28/2008 you posted with the subject " Does Transition Pack then
>> allow use of DFS Replication Service"
>>
>> Charlie clearly pointed out in that post "Careful. I said R2, not
>> service pack. SP2 doesn't include the R2 bits,
>> that's a separate issue."
>>
>> I replied after that "
>> Just to make sure Charlies Point is crystal clear
>> If you apply the Transition Pack to your SBS server, you wind up
>> with a Windows Server 2003 at SP1 or SP2 (which ever you've applied)
>> You would then still need to spend extra dollars to upgrade that to
>> Windows Server 2003 R2 to get DFS Replication Services"
>>
>> And Charlie reiterated again
>> "Yes. R2 is a separate upgrade"
>>
>> I'm sorry that you got bad advise when speaking with someone at
>> Microsoft, but we gave you the definitive answer last week.
>>
> Cris,
>
> I definitely appreciate your taking the time to advice me on both my
> posts. I tried to take the advice of not only you wise men but also
> Microsoft consultants. When we received the TP labeld Windows 2003
> R2, I was under the impression that would take me where I needed to
> be. I need to slow down and deliberate a little more, I guess.
>
> Now after running the 'W2K3 R2' Transition Pack and being at Windows
> Server 2003 Standard SP2 (Version 5.2 Build
> 3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.070304-2240: Service Pack 2) where do I go from
> here? I do have Windows 2003 R2 discs - can I use them to upgrade? KB
> Article 912309 implies that the second CD can be used but
> when I do so the installation menu gives me the option to 'Continue
> with Windows Server 2003 R2 Setup'. Is this the option I need?
>
> Thanks again guys. Cris - I respect and honor your advice. Thanks for
> helping me through this.
>
> -brian

--
/kj



Re: Transition Pack Run - but no DFS-R? by Charlie

Charlie
Tue May 06 15:18:06 PDT 2008

Oh, no question about them being two different products. One I'm accutely
aware of, since SUA/NFS is a big deal for me (and not in SBS R2.) Well, I
should have something to test shortly.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2329Roe7rIHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
>> I don't have direct knowledge here, Chris. I've asked my sources for
>> a copy of the R2 TP so I can run some tests, but all my original
>> tests were done before R2 shipped, so the R2 TP wasn't available yet.
>> I would hope and expect that continuing the R2 installation would be
>> the correct option. I guess the telling question is whether it wants
>> you to provide an additional PID. If not, then you should be OK.
>>
>> I will post detailed result when they finally get me an updated TP.
>> And probably have Susan post it on her blog. (My blog being pretty
>> much 64-bit stuff only.)
>>
>
> Can't speak well to the transition info, but R2 is definitely two
> different products. The SBS one has the WSUS stuff and missing the DFS-R,
> schema updates, and the other standard windows R2 goodies. Two products,
> two SKU's and two licenses.
>
> Now if a R2 TP buyer *should* be getting the standard R2 media and license
> is a different matter.
>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote
>> in message news:OVG3vglrIHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> R2 is not an update but rather an upgrade (i.e. there is a cost to
>> it) and I don't consider myself qualified to answer whether the TP
>> gives you the right to "upgrade" using the other media
>> Because the TP is labeled R2, one might infer that you can.
>>
>> Since I don't typically work with standard server versions, Charlie
>> maybe be better equipped to answer the question regarding "continuing
>> the installation"
>>
>>
>>> it's not about findiing fault, but you stated "reviewed the newsgroup
>>> thoroughly" , but it would appear you chose not to take the advise
>>> given in your own previous postings
>>>
>>> on 4/28/2008 you posted with the subject " Does Transition Pack then
>>> allow use of DFS Replication Service"
>>>
>>> Charlie clearly pointed out in that post "Careful. I said R2, not
>>> service pack. SP2 doesn't include the R2 bits,
>>> that's a separate issue."
>>>
>>> I replied after that "
>>> Just to make sure Charlies Point is crystal clear
>>> If you apply the Transition Pack to your SBS server, you wind up
>>> with a Windows Server 2003 at SP1 or SP2 (which ever you've applied)
>>> You would then still need to spend extra dollars to upgrade that to
>>> Windows Server 2003 R2 to get DFS Replication Services"
>>>
>>> And Charlie reiterated again
>>> "Yes. R2 is a separate upgrade"
>>>
>>> I'm sorry that you got bad advise when speaking with someone at
>>> Microsoft, but we gave you the definitive answer last week.
>>>
>> Cris,
>>
>> I definitely appreciate your taking the time to advice me on both my
>> posts. I tried to take the advice of not only you wise men but also
>> Microsoft consultants. When we received the TP labeld Windows 2003
>> R2, I was under the impression that would take me where I needed to
>> be. I need to slow down and deliberate a little more, I guess.
>>
>> Now after running the 'W2K3 R2' Transition Pack and being at Windows
>> Server 2003 Standard SP2 (Version 5.2 Build
>> 3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.070304-2240: Service Pack 2) where do I go from
>> here? I do have Windows 2003 R2 discs - can I use them to upgrade? KB
>> Article 912309 implies that the second CD can be used but
>> when I do so the installation menu gives me the option to 'Continue
>> with Windows Server 2003 R2 Setup'. Is this the option I need?
>>
>> Thanks again guys. Cris - I respect and honor your advice. Thanks for
>> helping me through this.
>>
>> -brian
>
> --
> /kj
>