SBS2003
Can someone please confirm whether or not as a starting point a static IP
address is a neccessity before trying to get RWW up and running

John

Re: Static IP and RWW by Lanwench

Lanwench
Wed Mar 26 10:12:42 PDT 2008

johnm <jmorton@jcm-polo.com> wrote:
> SBS2003
> Can someone please confirm whether or not as a starting point a
> static IP address is a neccessity before trying to get RWW up and
> running
> John

No, it isn't- it's just a lot better. If you have a dynamic IP, you'll need
something like www.dyndns.com - especially if you want to host your own mail
later, but even if not - so you can always use host.whateverdomain.com to
access your network.



Re: Static IP and RWW by catphishum

catphishum
Wed Mar 26 10:19:18 PDT 2008

Hi John - no it is not a neccessity, but a public static IP will make
things a little easier when setting up your SBS.

I create a record on my domain name DNS host - that points
servername.domainname.com to my SBS external IP.

Once this is done you can type in https://servername.domainname.com/remote
to get to RWW.

If you cant get a static, try using the DynDNS.com or the like. Never
used it, but I've heard it works fine.

On Mar 26, 12:07 pm, "johnm" <jmor...@jcm-polo.com> wrote:
> SBS2003
> Can someone please confirm whether or not as a starting point a static IP
> address is a neccessity before trying to get RWW up and running
>
> John


Re: Static IP and RWW by Larry

Larry
Wed Mar 26 10:59:42 PDT 2008

Hi John:

Well, you don't *need* any static ip address or any third party service.
All you need is for someone from inside the lan to go to www.wahtsmyip.com
every few days/hours/minutes and tell you what the current ip is, then run
the wizard again and create a new cert, then accept a new cert then change
it the next time the ip changes.

Then from outside the LAN you browse to https://current-ip-address/remote
and accept the new cert.

As LW once said in this space: rinse, lather, repeat.

But that is a lot of effort to avoid getting an IP address from your ISP or
one of the "rental" services.

--
Larry

Please post the resolution to
your issue so that all can benefit.


"catphishum" <catphishum@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fc5b45ec-20fc-4dd9-8f69-41a20d962c72@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi John - no it is not a neccessity, but a public static IP will make
> things a little easier when setting up your SBS.
>
> I create a record on my domain name DNS host - that points
> servername.domainname.com to my SBS external IP.
>
> Once this is done you can type in https://servername.domainname.com/remote
> to get to RWW.
>
> If you cant get a static, try using the DynDNS.com or the like. Never
> used it, but I've heard it works fine.
>
> On Mar 26, 12:07 pm, "johnm" <jmor...@jcm-polo.com> wrote:
>> SBS2003
>> Can someone please confirm whether or not as a starting point a static
>> IP
>> address is a neccessity before trying to get RWW up and running
>>
>> John
>



Re: Static IP and RWW by johnm

johnm
Wed Mar 26 14:00:45 PDT 2008

Larry
Thanks, I think I get the drift - I need a static IP - end of story!
John
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"Larry Struckmeyer" <lstruckmeyer(at)mis-wizards(dot)com> wrote in message
news:u6jZts2jIHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi John:
>
> Well, you don't *need* any static ip address or any third party service.
> All you need is for someone from inside the lan to go to www.wahtsmyip.com
> every few days/hours/minutes and tell you what the current ip is, then run
> the wizard again and create a new cert, then accept a new cert then change
> it the next time the ip changes.
>
> Then from outside the LAN you browse to https://current-ip-address/remote
> and accept the new cert.
>
> As LW once said in this space: rinse, lather, repeat.
>
> But that is a lot of effort to avoid getting an IP address from your ISP
> or one of the "rental" services.
>
> --
> Larry
>
> Please post the resolution to
> your issue so that all can benefit.
>
>
> "catphishum" <catphishum@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fc5b45ec-20fc-4dd9-8f69-41a20d962c72@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi John - no it is not a neccessity, but a public static IP will make
>> things a little easier when setting up your SBS.
>>
>> I create a record on my domain name DNS host - that points
>> servername.domainname.com to my SBS external IP.
>>
>> Once this is done you can type in
>> https://servername.domainname.com/remote
>> to get to RWW.
>>
>> If you cant get a static, try using the DynDNS.com or the like. Never
>> used it, but I've heard it works fine.
>>
>> On Mar 26, 12:07 pm, "johnm" <jmor...@jcm-polo.com> wrote:
>>> SBS2003
>>> Can someone please confirm whether or not as a starting point a static
>>> IP
>>> address is a neccessity before trying to get RWW up and running
>>>
>>> John
>>
>
>



Re: Static IP and RWW by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Wed Mar 26 15:47:41 PDT 2008

_need_, no. Try https://mickmalloy.dyndns.org/remote

One of the other SBS MVPs recently made a disparaging remark about my use of
dyndns for my main email address and I pointed out I had been operating in
such manner 'for several years' (I think about 7yrs if pressed, maybe 4 as
primary and before that as an additional address).

SO, no, you don't need static IP, it can however be greatly beneficial.
Normally the ISP can create PTR records to statics but not dynamics, this
helps with remote systems identifying SPAM. Also, if you have a dynamic IP
and it changes it takes _some time_ for DNS to propogate, _short_ periods
where the actual IP is not reflected in DNS occur.

A point of consideration when dealing with dynamic IPs is how quickly the
ISP re-issues freed IP's. Say I lose my current IP, when I get a new one
software on my SBS automatically updates dyndns but remote systems which may
be behind 'caching DNS servers' may not immediately see the change. If the
IP has been re-issued to another server people wishing to connect to me will
instead be attempting connection to some other server. I use one of the
worst ISP's in the world (AU's primary telecomms provider, Helstra, whoops,
I mean Telstra) but something they have done well in this manner is that
they have a much greater IP block than client base, released IP's go to the
bottom of the allocation list so there is _at least some_ delay before my
'previous IP' will be re-issued.

Yep, get a static, but at a pinch you can do dynamic.

"johnm" <jmorton@jcm-polo.com> wrote in message
news:OUo11R4jIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Larry
> Thanks, I think I get the drift - I need a static IP - end of story!
> John
> -------------------------------------------------------
> "Larry Struckmeyer" <lstruckmeyer(at)mis-wizards(dot)com> wrote in message
> news:u6jZts2jIHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi John:
>>
>> Well, you don't *need* any static ip address or any third party service.
>> All you need is for someone from inside the lan to go to
>> www.wahtsmyip.com every few days/hours/minutes and tell you what the
>> current ip is, then run the wizard again and create a new cert, then
>> accept a new cert then change it the next time the ip changes.
>>
>> Then from outside the LAN you browse to https://current-ip-address/remote
>> and accept the new cert.
>>
>> As LW once said in this space: rinse, lather, repeat.
>>
>> But that is a lot of effort to avoid getting an IP address from your ISP
>> or one of the "rental" services.
>>
>> --
>> Larry
>>
>> Please post the resolution to
>> your issue so that all can benefit.
>>
>>
>> "catphishum" <catphishum@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fc5b45ec-20fc-4dd9-8f69-41a20d962c72@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hi John - no it is not a neccessity, but a public static IP will make
>>> things a little easier when setting up your SBS.
>>>
>>> I create a record on my domain name DNS host - that points
>>> servername.domainname.com to my SBS external IP.
>>>
>>> Once this is done you can type in
>>> https://servername.domainname.com/remote
>>> to get to RWW.
>>>
>>> If you cant get a static, try using the DynDNS.com or the like. Never
>>> used it, but I've heard it works fine.
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 12:07 pm, "johnm" <jmor...@jcm-polo.com> wrote:
>>>> SBS2003
>>>> Can someone please confirm whether or not as a starting point a static
>>>> IP
>>>> address is a neccessity before trying to get RWW up and running
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Static IP and RWW by Lanwench

Lanwench
Wed Mar 26 18:40:17 PDT 2008

johnm <jmorton@jcm-polo.com> wrote:
> Larry
> Thanks, I think I get the drift - I need a static IP - end of story!
> John

No, you don't. It's better, but not at all mandatory.

>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> "Larry Struckmeyer" <lstruckmeyer(at)mis-wizards(dot)com> wrote in
> message news:u6jZts2jIHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi John:
>>
>> Well, you don't *need* any static ip address or any third party
>> service. All you need is for someone from inside the lan to go to
>> www.wahtsmyip.com every few days/hours/minutes and tell you what the
>> current ip is, then run the wizard again and create a new cert, then
>> accept a new cert then change it the next time the ip changes.
>>
>> Then from outside the LAN you browse to
>> https://current-ip-address/remote and accept the new cert.
>>
>> As LW once said in this space: rinse, lather, repeat.
>>
>> But that is a lot of effort to avoid getting an IP address from your
>> ISP or one of the "rental" services.
>>
>> --
>> Larry
>>
>> Please post the resolution to
>> your issue so that all can benefit.
>>
>>
>> "catphishum" <catphishum@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fc5b45ec-20fc-4dd9-8f69-41a20d962c72@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hi John - no it is not a neccessity, but a public static IP will
>>> make things a little easier when setting up your SBS.
>>>
>>> I create a record on my domain name DNS host - that points
>>> servername.domainname.com to my SBS external IP.
>>>
>>> Once this is done you can type in
>>> https://servername.domainname.com/remote
>>> to get to RWW.
>>>
>>> If you cant get a static, try using the DynDNS.com or the like. Never
>>> used it, but I've heard it works fine.
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 12:07 pm, "johnm" <jmor...@jcm-polo.com> wrote:
>>>> SBS2003
>>>> Can someone please confirm whether or not as a starting point a
>>>> static IP
>>>> address is a neccessity before trying to get RWW up and running
>>>>
>>>> John