Roaming Profiles and Redirected Folders Inconsistent

I'm Running Windows 2000 Small Business Server as a PDC/DC/AD, DNS, and
Terminal Server with a Windows 2003 Server running DHCP, DNS, and File
Server. Clients are Windows XP Pro.

On the W2K SBS, I set the default policy to include folder redirection
of the users' "My Documents", etc. folders. In AD, I set the users
profiles to be redirected (different path, same server, W2K3) as well.

The redirection is not working consistently. I've had cases where a
user logs in from one computer and their folders are redirected. The
same user goes to another computer and logs in - the folders are NOT
redirected. It is "hit and miss" as to whether the folders/profiles are
redirected or not.

What should I check to diagnose and fix these problems? What needs to
be changed?

J
Wed Mar 26 14:17:50 PDT 2008

The first thing to do is run RSOP on each computer where you are having
inconsistencies and make sure that group policy is consistent there.

Also, make sure the user has the same credentials on each computer.
(Since we map drives using an GPO logon script, in it we check for the
existence of \\[computername]\Admin$\system32 to ensure that the user
has local admin privileges.)

Joe

F3 wrote:
> I'm Running Windows 2000 Small Business Server as a PDC/DC/AD, DNS, and
> Terminal Server with a Windows 2003 Server running DHCP, DNS, and File
> Server. Clients are Windows XP Pro.
>
> On the W2K SBS, I set the default policy to include folder redirection
> of the users' "My Documents", etc. folders. In AD, I set the users
> profiles to be redirected (different path, same server, W2K3) as well.
>
> The redirection is not working consistently. I've had cases where a
> user logs in from one computer and their folders are redirected. The
> same user goes to another computer and logs in - the folders are NOT
> redirected. It is "hit and miss" as to whether the folders/profiles are
> redirected or not.
>
> What should I check to diagnose and fix these problems? What needs to
> be changed?

F3
Wed Mar 26 15:56:45 PDT 2008

Joe,

I haven't run the RSOP on each computer as yet. Two questions about that...

Firstly, RSOP: Resultant Set Of Policies? Best way to run this (maybe
with logging to a txt file)?

Secondly, from the W2K SBS server, is it possible to give each user only
regular user rights on the AD login, but have them automatically
assigned local admin privileges on the workstations? Is this correct? How?

Thanks

F3 a.k.a. Fred

J. M. De Moor wrote:
> The first thing to do is run RSOP on each computer where you are having
> inconsistencies and make sure that group policy is consistent there.
>
> Also, make sure the user has the same credentials on each computer.
> (Since we map drives using an GPO logon script, in it we check for the
> existence of \\[computername]\Admin$\system32 to ensure that the user
> has local admin privileges.)
>
> Joe
>
> F3 wrote:
>> I'm Running Windows 2000 Small Business Server as a PDC/DC/AD, DNS, and
>> Terminal Server with a Windows 2003 Server running DHCP, DNS, and File
>> Server. Clients are Windows XP Pro.
>>
>> On the W2K SBS, I set the default policy to include folder redirection
>> of the users' "My Documents", etc. folders. In AD, I set the users
>> profiles to be redirected (different path, same server, W2K3) as well.
>>
>> The redirection is not working consistently. I've had cases where a
>> user logs in from one computer and their folders are redirected. The
>> same user goes to another computer and logs in - the folders are NOT
>> redirected. It is "hit and miss" as to whether the folders/profiles are
>> redirected or not.
>>
>> What should I check to diagnose and fix these problems? What needs to
>> be changed?

J
Wed Mar 26 17:56:48 PDT 2008

Hey Fred

>
> Firstly, RSOP: Resultant Set Of Policies?

Yes. Sorry.

> Best way to run this (maybe
> with logging to a txt file)?
>

I have never done that. I just run the rsop.msc from the
%WinDir%\System32 folder and check it in the console.

> Secondly, from the W2K SBS server, is it possible to give each user only
> regular user rights on the AD login, but have them automatically
> assigned local admin privileges on the workstations? Is this correct?
> How?
>

If you join the SBS domain using the browser wizard
(http://servername/connectcomputer), then the user you specify will
automatically have local admin rights. After that, you are stuck adding
and removing domain users to and from the local Administrators
group...something I always manage to forget when a computer changes
hands or needs to be shared.

What we do as a matter of practice is to build a domain security group
and, using the Manage mmc for the local computer, add that security
group to the local Administrators group of the client computer(s). That
way as staff turns over, we change the membership in the security group
and don't have to worry about the individual computers.

This works well with XP and newer, but is inconsistent with Windows 2000
computers.

Joe

Lanwench
Wed Mar 26 15:14:47 PDT 2008

F3 <f3_evans@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm Running Windows 2000 Small Business Server as a PDC/DC/AD, DNS,
> and Terminal Server with a Windows 2003 Server running DHCP, DNS, and
> File Server. Clients are Windows XP Pro.
>
> On the W2K SBS, I set the default policy to include folder redirection
> of the users' "My Documents", etc. folders. In AD, I set the users
> profiles to be redirected (different path, same server, W2K3) as well.
>
> The redirection is not working consistently. I've had cases where a
> user logs in from one computer and their folders are redirected. The
> same user goes to another computer and logs in - the folders are NOT
> redirected. It is "hit and miss" as to whether the folders/profiles
> are redirected or not.
>
> What should I check to diagnose and fix these problems? What needs to
> be changed?

Hi - I replied at considerable length to your identical post in the AD
groups. Please don't multipost - if you need to post to multiple groups,
it's best to crosspost instead, by posting a single message to a handful of
relevant groups (separate the NG names with commas) so that everyone can
follow the thread. Multiposting wastes everyone's time, including yours, and
may lead to your actually getting *less* help rather than more.

F3
Thu Mar 27 08:33:25 PDT 2008

Hey Joe,

"Manage mmc for the local computer"? I think I know what you're talking
about, and I'll go where I think this is. Computer management console -
Local Users and Groups?

F3

J. M. De Moor wrote:
> Hey Fred
>
>>
>> Firstly, RSOP: Resultant Set Of Policies?
>
> Yes. Sorry.
>
>> Best way to run this (maybe with logging to a txt file)?
>>
>
> I have never done that. I just run the rsop.msc from the
> %WinDir%\System32 folder and check it in the console.
>
>> Secondly, from the W2K SBS server, is it possible to give each user
>> only regular user rights on the AD login, but have them automatically
>> assigned local admin privileges on the workstations? Is this
>> correct? How?
>>
>
> If you join the SBS domain using the browser wizard
> (http://servername/connectcomputer), then the user you specify will
> automatically have local admin rights. After that, you are stuck adding
> and removing domain users to and from the local Administrators
> group...something I always manage to forget when a computer changes
> hands or needs to be shared.
>
> What we do as a matter of practice is to build a domain security group
> and, using the Manage mmc for the local computer, add that security
> group to the local Administrators group of the client computer(s). That
> way as staff turns over, we change the membership in the security group
> and don't have to worry about the individual computers.
>
> This works well with XP and newer, but is inconsistent with Windows 2000
> computers.
>
> Joe

v-terliu
Fri Mar 28 03:30:45 PDT 2008

Hello Customer,

Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Joe and Lanwench for the input.

According to your description, I understand that you enable roaming profile
and folder redirection for users and the roaming profile do not appear on
some client computers. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't
hesitate to let me know.

For your 2 additional questions, please perform Joe's suggestion.

Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see if we can
resolve this issue:

1. We do not recommend customer to enable roaming profile and folder
redirection for same user. We know the My Document folder redirection will
be included in roaming profile. The Roaming profile including all folders
of My Document. If you enable they together on one user, that will cause
many issue. Therefore, I suggest you disable the My Document folder
redirection. Then, test this issue.

2. Since this issue only happen on part of client computers, the client
local existing profile may cause this issue. Please backup the user profile
on the problematic client computer, and then delete it. Then test this
issue.

a. Logon the problematic client computer will local administrator.
b. Right-click My Computer , and then click Properties .
c. On the Advanced tab, click Settings under User Profiles pane, click the
problematic profile, and then click Copy To .

NOTE : The profile usually contains the name of the computer and the name
of the user account.

d. In the Copy profile to box, click Browse , and then browse to the
folder to backup the user profiles.
f. Then, click Delete button to delete the profile.

Then, try to logon the user account on the client computer to test.

I hope these steps will give you some help.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| From: F3 <f3_evans@hotmail.com>
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|
| Hey Joe,
|
| "Manage mmc for the local computer"? I think I know what you're talking
| about, and I'll go where I think this is. Computer management console -
| Local Users and Groups?
|
| F3
|
| J. M. De Moor wrote:
| > Hey Fred
| >
| >>
| >> Firstly, RSOP: Resultant Set Of Policies?
| >
| > Yes. Sorry.
| >
| >> Best way to run this (maybe with logging to a txt file)?
| >>
| >
| > I have never done that. I just run the rsop.msc from the
| > %WinDir%\System32 folder and check it in the console.
| >
| >> Secondly, from the W2K SBS server, is it possible to give each user
| >> only regular user rights on the AD login, but have them automatically
| >> assigned local admin privileges on the workstations? Is this
| >> correct? How?
| >>
| >
| > If you join the SBS domain using the browser wizard
| > (http://servername/connectcomputer), then the user you specify will
| > automatically have local admin rights. After that, you are stuck adding
| > and removing domain users to and from the local Administrators
| > group...something I always manage to forget when a computer changes
| > hands or needs to be shared.
| >
| > What we do as a matter of practice is to build a domain security group
| > and, using the Manage mmc for the local computer, add that security
| > group to the local Administrators group of the client computer(s).
That
| > way as staff turns over, we change the membership in the security group
| > and don't have to worry about the individual computers.
| >
| > This works well with XP and newer, but is inconsistent with Windows
2000
| > computers.
| >
| > Joe
|

Lanwench
Fri Mar 28 05:40:10 PDT 2008

Terence Liu [MSFT] <v-terliu@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Hello Customer,
>
> Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Joe and Lanwench for the
> input.
>
> According to your description, I understand that you enable roaming
> profile and folder redirection for users and the roaming profile do
> not appear on some client computers. If I have misunderstood the
> problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.
>
> For your 2 additional questions, please perform Joe's suggestion.
>
> Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see if
> we can resolve this issue:
>
> 1. We do not recommend customer to enable roaming profile and folder
> redirection for same user.

What does that means?

> We know the My Document folder redirection
> will be included in roaming profile.

No, folder redirection means that the folder is independent of the profile,
whether roaming or not.

> The Roaming profile including
> all folders of My Document. If you enable they together on one user,
> that will cause many issue.

No, the roaming profile will no longer contain My Documents or any other
redirected folder.

> Therefore, I suggest you disable the My
> Document folder redirection. Then, test this issue.
>
> 2. Since this issue only happen on part of client computers, the
> client local existing profile may cause this issue. Please backup the
> user profile on the problematic client computer, and then delete it.
> Then test this issue.
>
> a. Logon the problematic client computer will local administrator.
> b. Right-click My Computer , and then click Properties .
> c. On the Advanced tab, click Settings under User Profiles pane,
> click the problematic profile, and then click Copy To .
>
> NOTE : The profile usually contains the name of the computer and the
> name of the user account.
>
> d. In the Copy profile to box, click Browse , and then browse to the
> folder to backup the user profiles.
> f. Then, click Delete button to delete the profile.
>
> Then, try to logon the user account on the client computer to test.
>
> I hope these steps will give you some help.
>
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> =====================================================
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
> issues regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
> corresponding newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient
> and timely manner. You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
> check the "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications
> when there are any updates in your thread. When responding to posts
> via your newsreader, please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn
> and benefit from your issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although
> we provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
> doing so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
> Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
> numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> =====================================================
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> --------------------
>> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:33:25 -0500
>> From: F3 <f3_evans@hotmail.com>
>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213)
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
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>> microsoft.public.windows.group_policy:9889
> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:100181
>> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
>>
>> Hey Joe,
>>
>> "Manage mmc for the local computer"? I think I know what you're
>> talking about, and I'll go where I think this is. Computer
>> management console - Local Users and Groups?
>>
>> F3
>>
>> J. M. De Moor wrote:
>>> Hey Fred
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, RSOP: Resultant Set Of Policies?
>>>
>>> Yes. Sorry.
>>>
>>>> Best way to run this (maybe with logging to a txt file)?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have never done that. I just run the rsop.msc from the
>>> %WinDir%\System32 folder and check it in the console.
>>>
>>>> Secondly, from the W2K SBS server, is it possible to give each user
>>>> only regular user rights on the AD login, but have them
>>>> automatically assigned local admin privileges on the workstations?
>>>> Is this correct? How?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you join the SBS domain using the browser wizard
>>> (http://servername/connectcomputer), then the user you specify will
>>> automatically have local admin rights. After that, you are stuck
>>> adding and removing domain users to and from the local
>>> Administrators group...something I always manage to forget when a
>>> computer changes hands or needs to be shared.
>>>
>>> What we do as a matter of practice is to build a domain security
>>> group and, using the Manage mmc for the local computer, add that
>>> security group to the local Administrators group of the client
>>> computer(s).
> That
>>> way as staff turns over, we change the membership in the security
>>> group and don't have to worry about the individual computers.
>>>
>>> This works well with XP and newer, but is inconsistent with Windows
>>> 2000 computers.
>>>
>>> Joe

J
Fri Mar 28 13:37:45 PDT 2008

Terence Liu [MSFT] wrote:

> We know the My Document folder redirection will
> be included in roaming profile. The Roaming profile including all folders
> of My Document.

Really? When did this change? There are some TechNet articles that
will have to be updated. My impression has been that these are
complimentary features.

Joe

v-terliu
Mon Mar 31 04:10:17 PDT 2008

Hello Lanwench,

Thank you for your prompt.

Yes, I'm wrong. Based on my test, the roaming profile no longer contain
redirected My Documents.

However, in SBS, we usually enable offline folder for the redirected My
Documents. The local offline files may cause this issue.

I suggest we do not enable roaming profile and folder redirection for same
user, and then test this issue.

Sorry for my mistake.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

=====================================================
This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
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When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
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please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
issue.

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provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
=====================================================

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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|
| Terence Liu [MSFT] <v-terliu@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
| > Hello Customer,
| >
| > Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Joe and Lanwench for the
| > input.
| >
| > According to your description, I understand that you enable roaming
| > profile and folder redirection for users and the roaming profile do
| > not appear on some client computers. If I have misunderstood the
| > problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.
| >
| > For your 2 additional questions, please perform Joe's suggestion.
| >
| > Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see if
| > we can resolve this issue:
| >
| > 1. We do not recommend customer to enable roaming profile and folder
| > redirection for same user.
|
| What does that means?
|
| > We know the My Document folder redirection
| > will be included in roaming profile.
|
| No, folder redirection means that the folder is independent of the
profile,
| whether roaming or not.
|
| > The Roaming profile including
| > all folders of My Document. If you enable they together on one user,
| > that will cause many issue.
|
| No, the roaming profile will no longer contain My Documents or any other
| redirected folder.
|
| > Therefore, I suggest you disable the My
| > Document folder redirection. Then, test this issue.
| >
| > 2. Since this issue only happen on part of client computers, the
| > client local existing profile may cause this issue. Please backup the
| > user profile on the problematic client computer, and then delete it.
| > Then test this issue.
| >
| > a. Logon the problematic client computer will local administrator.
| > b. Right-click My Computer , and then click Properties .
| > c. On the Advanced tab, click Settings under User Profiles pane,
| > click the problematic profile, and then click Copy To .
| >
| > NOTE : The profile usually contains the name of the computer and the
| > name of the user account.
| >
| > d. In the Copy profile to box, click Browse , and then browse to the
| > folder to backup the user profiles.
| > f. Then, click Delete button to delete the profile.
| >
| > Then, try to logon the user account on the client computer to test.
| >
| > I hope these steps will give you some help.
| >
| > Thanks and have a nice day!
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
| > =====================================================
| > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
| > issues regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| > corresponding newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient
| > and timely manner. You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| >
| > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
| > check the "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications
| > when there are any updates in your thread. When responding to posts
| > via your newsreader, please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn
| > and benefit from your issue.
| >
| > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although
| > we provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
| > doing so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >
| > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
| > Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
| > numbers.
| >
| > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > =====================================================
| >
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.
| >
| > --------------------
| >> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:33:25 -0500
| >> From: F3 <f3_evans@hotmail.com>
| >> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213)
| >> MIME-Version: 1.0
| >> Subject: Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected Folders Inconsistent
| >> References: <eVw0f63jIHA.5660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
| > <ei8adb4jIHA.5660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
| > <OuwluT5jIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
| > <uuez0V6jIHA.6084@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| >> In-Reply-To: <uuez0V6jIHA.6084@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
| >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| >> Message-ID: <uPepqACkIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| >> Newsgroups:
| >
microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs,microsoft.public.windows.group_policy
| >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-253-0-194.ip.mcleodusa.net 209.253.0.194
| >> Lines: 1
| >> Path:
| >> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl
| >> Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
| >> microsoft.public.windows.group_policy:9889
| > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:100181
| >> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >>
| >> Hey Joe,
| >>
| >> "Manage mmc for the local computer"? I think I know what you're
| >> talking about, and I'll go where I think this is. Computer
| >> management console - Local Users and Groups?
| >>
| >> F3
| >>
| >> J. M. De Moor wrote:
| >>> Hey Fred
| >>>
| >>>>
| >>>> Firstly, RSOP: Resultant Set Of Policies?
| >>>
| >>> Yes. Sorry.
| >>>
| >>>> Best way to run this (maybe with logging to a txt file)?
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>> I have never done that. I just run the rsop.msc from the
| >>> %WinDir%\System32 folder and check it in the console.
| >>>
| >>>> Secondly, from the W2K SBS server, is it possible to give each user
| >>>> only regular user rights on the AD login, but have them
| >>>> automatically assigned local admin privileges on the workstations?
| >>>> Is this correct? How?
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>> If you join the SBS domain using the browser wizard
| >>> (http://servername/connectcomputer), then the user you specify will
| >>> automatically have local admin rights. After that, you are stuck
| >>> adding and removing domain users to and from the local
| >>> Administrators group...something I always manage to forget when a
| >>> computer changes hands or needs to be shared.
| >>>
| >>> What we do as a matter of practice is to build a domain security
| >>> group and, using the Manage mmc for the local computer, add that
| >>> security group to the local Administrators group of the client
| >>> computer(s).
| > That
| >>> way as staff turns over, we change the membership in the security
| >>> group and don't have to worry about the individual computers.
| >>>
| >>> This works well with XP and newer, but is inconsistent with Windows
| >>> 2000 computers.
| >>>
| >>> Joe
|
|
|
|

Lanwench
Mon Mar 31 07:45:49 PDT 2008

Terence Liu [MSFT] <v-terliu@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Hello Lanwench,
>
> Thank you for your prompt.
>
> Yes, I'm wrong. Based on my test, the roaming profile no longer
> contain redirected My Documents.
>
> However, in SBS, we usually enable offline folder for the redirected
> My Documents. The local offline files may cause this issue.

Sure, they can cause all kinds of problems - but they aren't going to be
related to roaming profiles.

I disable offline files on my shares and/or via group policy.
>
> I suggest we do not enable roaming profile and folder redirection for
> same user, and then test this issue.

Or disable offline files, which would better help to isolate the problem.
>
> Sorry for my mistake.

I make them too. :-)

>
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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>> From: "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com>
>> References: <eVw0f63jIHA.5660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
> <ei8adb4jIHA.5660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
> <OuwluT5jIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
> <uuez0V6jIHA.6084@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
> <uPepqACkIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
> <jOyUJ7LkIHA.1500@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl>
>> Subject: Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected Folders Inconsistent
>> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:40:10 -0400
>> Lines: 171
>> X-Priority: 3
>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
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>> Message-ID: <e75TQENkIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
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>> Path:
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>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:100332 X-Tomcat-NG:
>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
>>
>> Terence Liu [MSFT] <v-terliu@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Customer,
>>>
>>> Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Joe and Lanwench for
>>> the input.
>>>
>>> According to your description, I understand that you enable roaming
>>> profile and folder redirection for users and the roaming profile do
>>> not appear on some client computers. If I have misunderstood the
>>> problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.
>>>
>>> For your 2 additional questions, please perform Joe's suggestion.
>>>
>>> Based on my research, I suggest we try the following steps to see if
>>> we can resolve this issue:
>>>
>>> 1. We do not recommend customer to enable roaming profile and folder
>>> redirection for same user.
>>
>> What does that means?
>>
>>> We know the My Document folder redirection
>>> will be included in roaming profile.
>>
>> No, folder redirection means that the folder is independent of the
>> profile, whether roaming or not.
>>
>>> The Roaming profile including
>>> all folders of My Document. If you enable they together on one
>>> user, that will cause many issue.
>>
>> No, the roaming profile will no longer contain My Documents or any
>> other redirected folder.
>>
>>> Therefore, I suggest you disable the My
>>> Document folder redirection. Then, test this issue.
>>>
>>> 2. Since this issue only happen on part of client computers, the
>>> client local existing profile may cause this issue. Please backup
>>> the user profile on the problematic client computer, and then
>>> delete it. Then test this issue.
>>>
>>> a. Logon the problematic client computer will local administrator.
>>> b. Right-click My Computer , and then click Properties .
>>> c. On the Advanced tab, click Settings under User Profiles pane,
>>> click the problematic profile, and then click Copy To .
>>>
>>> NOTE : The profile usually contains the name of the computer and the
>>> name of the user account.
>>>
>>> d. In the Copy profile to box, click Browse , and then browse to
>>> the folder to backup the user profiles.
>>> f. Then, click Delete button to delete the profile.
>>>
>>> Then, try to logon the user account on the client computer to test.
>>>
>>> I hope these steps will give you some help.
>>>
>>> Thanks and have a nice day!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>>>
>>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>>>
>>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>>>
>>> =====================================================
>>> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
>>> issues regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
>>> corresponding newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an
>>> efficient and timely manner. You can locate the newsgroup here:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
>>>
>>> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
>>> check the "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications
>>> when there are any updates in your thread. When responding to posts
>>> via your newsreader, please "Reply to Group" so that others may
>>> learn and benefit from your issue.
>>>
>>> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although
>>> we provide other information for your reference, we recommend you
>>> post different incidents in different threads to keep the thread
>>> clean. In doing so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a
>>> timely manner.
>>>
>>> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
>>> Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
>>> numbers.
>>>
>>> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
>>> =====================================================
>>>
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights.
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>>> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:33:25 -0500
>>>> From: F3 <f3_evans@hotmail.com>
>>>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213)
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> Subject: Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected Folders Inconsistent
>>>> References: <eVw0f63jIHA.5660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>> <ei8adb4jIHA.5660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>> <OuwluT5jIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>> <uuez0V6jIHA.6084@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> In-Reply-To: <uuez0V6jIHA.6084@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>> Message-ID: <uPepqACkIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> Newsgroups:
>>>
> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs,microsoft.public.windows.group_policy
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-253-0-194.ip.mcleodusa.net 209.253.0.194
>>>> Lines: 1
>>>> Path:
>>>> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl
>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
>>>> microsoft.public.windows.group_policy:9889
>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:100181
>>>> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
>>>>
>>>> Hey Joe,
>>>>
>>>> "Manage mmc for the local computer"? I think I know what you're
>>>> talking about, and I'll go where I think this is. Computer
>>>> management console - Local Users and Groups?
>>>>
>>>> F3
>>>>
>>>> J. M. De Moor wrote:
>>>>> Hey Fred
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firstly, RSOP: Resultant Set Of Policies?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Sorry.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Best way to run this (maybe with logging to a txt file)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never done that. I just run the rsop.msc from the
>>>>> %WinDir%\System32 folder and check it in the console.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Secondly, from the W2K SBS server, is it possible to give each
>>>>>> user only regular user rights on the AD login, but have them
>>>>>> automatically assigned local admin privileges on the
>>>>>> workstations? Is this correct? How?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you join the SBS domain using the browser wizard
>>>>> (http://servername/connectcomputer), then the user you specify
>>>>> will automatically have local admin rights. After that, you are
>>>>> stuck adding and removing domain users to and from the local
>>>>> Administrators group...something I always manage to forget when a
>>>>> computer changes hands or needs to be shared.
>>>>>
>>>>> What we do as a matter of practice is to build a domain security
>>>>> group