Hello!

Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good answer.

I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to be
able to send from those two domains and not just send from the default
Exchange account. I have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us
and it says to have all domains in the default policy. I have read other
articles that say to create a new recipient policy for the domain. I had
ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) working with domain aliases, but
that died a while back...not sure why...could be related to installing
Vamsoft ORF for spam filtering (NDR states: You do not have permission to
send to this recipient).

I am thinking that ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) could help
meet my goals.

My goals are:

1) To have 3 users out of 25 who will have both domainA.com email and
domainB.com email, and to be able to send from either one.
2) Have 3 more domain users who need only domainB.com email
3) Everyone else only has domainA.com email

Article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289833/en-us states under the step
11 note, "You may not want every user to have the secondary e-mail address.
If you click No, you must create another recipient policy for those specific
users who need this addresses, or manually add the address for each user." I
don't get the part about "...or manually add the address for each user."

All 25 users are on one SBS domain, as they need access to resources on the
SBS server. Some of them work for a sister company, hence the need for the
second domain email. For the sister company, they currently use their web
host for domainB.com to do their email and they POP it into Outlook. I want
everything in Exchange.

As far as the MX record for domainB.com, if I understand this article to be
correct http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html, then the MX record
for domainB.com should be the same MX as domainA.com (mail.domainA.com) so
that PTR records (and the mail server greeting, if it matters) work
properly. Or should I have a mail.domainB.com MX record with its
corresponding A record pointing to the SBS server IP address?

What are the functional differences between the two methods (both domains in
default policy, or two separate policies)?

I can think of the following:

1) If the second domain is added to the default policy, then ALL domain
users get the second domain address as well, correct?

2) If a separate recipient policy is used, then I could choose specific
users to get the second domain, correct?

Thank you!

Gregg Hill

Re: Questions about multiple email domains on SBS 2003 SP1 with Exchange 2003 SP2 by Ed

Ed
Thu Mar 27 20:23:28 PDT 2008

Comments inline.
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"

"Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:e$Mjz$HkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hello!
>
> Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good answer.
>
> I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to be
> able to send from those two domains and not just send from the default
> Exchange account. I have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us
> and it says to have all domains in the default policy. I have read other
> articles that say to create a new recipient policy for the domain.

They're both right. Best practice is to put all valid domains in the
default policy and then create other higher-priority policies with
appropriate filters that apply to recipients. In general, your
lowest-priority additonal policy would match everyone so it would apply to
all users that higher-priority filters don't touch, which means the default
policy never comes into play.

> I had ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) working with domain
> aliases, but that died a while back...not sure why...could be related to
> installing Vamsoft ORF for spam filtering (NDR states: You do not have
> permission to send to this recipient).
>
> I am thinking that ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) could help
> meet my goals.
>
> My goals are:
>
> 1) To have 3 users out of 25 who will have both domainA.com email and
> domainB.com email, and to be able to send from either one.

You'll need ChooseFrom for the sending part. You could put a "AB" in
extension attribute 10 and then create a recipient policy with the highest
priority that matches "AB" and applies addresses with both domains.

> 2) Have 3 more domain users who need only domainB.com email

That second-highest priority could match "B" in extension attribute 10.

> 3) Everyone else only has domainA.com email

This would be your lowest priority policy that matches all recipients.

>
> Article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289833/en-us states under the step
> 11 note, "You may not want every user to have the secondary e-mail
> address. If you click No, you must create another recipient policy for
> those specific users who need this addresses, or manually add the address
> for each user." I don't get the part about "...or manually add the address
> for each user."

I think the approach I just gave you makes this moot.

> All 25 users are on one SBS domain, as they need access to resources on
> the SBS server. Some of them work for a sister company, hence the need for
> the second domain email. For the sister company, they currently use their
> web host for domainB.com to do their email and they POP it into Outlook. I
> want everything in Exchange.
>
> As far as the MX record for domainB.com, if I understand this article to
> be correct http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html, then the MX
> record for domainB.com should be the same MX as domainA.com
> (mail.domainA.com) so that PTR records (and the mail server greeting, if
> it matters) work properly. Or should I have a mail.domainB.com MX record
> with its corresponding A record pointing to the SBS server IP address?

Two MX records both pointing to one A record is just fine.

> What are the functional differences between the two methods (both domains
> in default policy, or two separate policies)?

Follow my approach for best results.

> I can think of the following:
>
> 1) If the second domain is added to the default policy, then ALL domain
> users get the second domain address as well, correct?

Remember that only the highest matching policy applies. So the approach I
suggest should be foolproof.

> 2) If a separate recipient policy is used, then I could choose specific
> users to get the second domain, correct?

Yes, like I described.

> Thank you!

Happy to have helped.

> Gregg Hill
>
>
>



Re: Questions about multiple email domains on SBS 2003 SP1 with Exchange 2003 SP2 by Gregg

Gregg
Fri Mar 28 00:02:18 PDT 2008

Ed,

You claimed that "So the approach I suggest should be foolproof." Well, you
didn't take into account that this fool has no idea what you mean by
"extension attribute 10"!

So, it is off to Google I go to find out what you mean by that.

Thank you for the additional information to get me going in the right
direction!

Gregg Hill




"Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
news:%23Th%23YMIkIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Comments inline.
> --
> Ed Crowley
> MVP - Exchange
> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>
> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:e$Mjz$HkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hello!
>>
>> Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good
>> answer.
>>
>> I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to be
>> able to send from those two domains and not just send from the default
>> Exchange account. I have read
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us and it says to have all
>> domains in the default policy. I have read other articles that say to
>> create a new recipient policy for the domain.
>
> They're both right. Best practice is to put all valid domains in the
> default policy and then create other higher-priority policies with
> appropriate filters that apply to recipients. In general, your
> lowest-priority additonal policy would match everyone so it would apply to
> all users that higher-priority filters don't touch, which means the
> default policy never comes into play.
>
>> I had ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) working with domain
>> aliases, but that died a while back...not sure why...could be related to
>> installing Vamsoft ORF for spam filtering (NDR states: You do not have
>> permission to send to this recipient).
>>
>> I am thinking that ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) could help
>> meet my goals.
>>
>> My goals are:
>>
>> 1) To have 3 users out of 25 who will have both domainA.com email and
>> domainB.com email, and to be able to send from either one.
>
> You'll need ChooseFrom for the sending part. You could put a "AB" in
> extension attribute 10 and then create a recipient policy with the highest
> priority that matches "AB" and applies addresses with both domains.
>
>> 2) Have 3 more domain users who need only domainB.com email
>
> That second-highest priority could match "B" in extension attribute 10.
>
>> 3) Everyone else only has domainA.com email
>
> This would be your lowest priority policy that matches all recipients.
>
>>
>> Article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289833/en-us states under the
>> step 11 note, "You may not want every user to have the secondary e-mail
>> address. If you click No, you must create another recipient policy for
>> those specific users who need this addresses, or manually add the address
>> for each user." I don't get the part about "...or manually add the
>> address for each user."
>
> I think the approach I just gave you makes this moot.
>
>> All 25 users are on one SBS domain, as they need access to resources on
>> the SBS server. Some of them work for a sister company, hence the need
>> for the second domain email. For the sister company, they currently use
>> their web host for domainB.com to do their email and they POP it into
>> Outlook. I want everything in Exchange.
>>
>> As far as the MX record for domainB.com, if I understand this article to
>> be correct http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html, then the MX
>> record for domainB.com should be the same MX as domainA.com
>> (mail.domainA.com) so that PTR records (and the mail server greeting, if
>> it matters) work properly. Or should I have a mail.domainB.com MX record
>> with its corresponding A record pointing to the SBS server IP address?
>
> Two MX records both pointing to one A record is just fine.
>
>> What are the functional differences between the two methods (both domains
>> in default policy, or two separate policies)?
>
> Follow my approach for best results.
>
>> I can think of the following:
>>
>> 1) If the second domain is added to the default policy, then ALL domain
>> users get the second domain address as well, correct?
>
> Remember that only the highest matching policy applies. So the approach I
> suggest should be foolproof.
>
>> 2) If a separate recipient policy is used, then I could choose specific
>> users to get the second domain, correct?
>
> Yes, like I described.
>
>> Thank you!
>
> Happy to have helped.
>
>> Gregg Hill
>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Questions about multiple email domains on SBS 2003 SP1 with Exchange 2003 SP2 by Ed

Ed
Fri Mar 28 08:46:17 PDT 2008

You're smart enough to know how to Google! You could use just about any
other attribute as well, like company.
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"

"Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%23B6tpGKkIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Ed,
>
> You claimed that "So the approach I suggest should be foolproof." Well,
> you didn't take into account that this fool has no idea what you mean by
> "extension attribute 10"!
>
> So, it is off to Google I go to find out what you mean by that.
>
> Thank you for the additional information to get me going in the right
> direction!
>
> Gregg Hill
>
>
>
>
> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
> news:%23Th%23YMIkIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Comments inline.
>> --
>> Ed Crowley
>> MVP - Exchange
>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>
>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:e$Mjz$HkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good
>>> answer.
>>>
>>> I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to be
>>> able to send from those two domains and not just send from the default
>>> Exchange account. I have read
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us and it says to have all
>>> domains in the default policy. I have read other articles that say to
>>> create a new recipient policy for the domain.
>>
>> They're both right. Best practice is to put all valid domains in the
>> default policy and then create other higher-priority policies with
>> appropriate filters that apply to recipients. In general, your
>> lowest-priority additonal policy would match everyone so it would apply
>> to all users that higher-priority filters don't touch, which means the
>> default policy never comes into play.
>>
>>> I had ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) working with domain
>>> aliases, but that died a while back...not sure why...could be related to
>>> installing Vamsoft ORF for spam filtering (NDR states: You do not have
>>> permission to send to this recipient).
>>>
>>> I am thinking that ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) could help
>>> meet my goals.
>>>
>>> My goals are:
>>>
>>> 1) To have 3 users out of 25 who will have both domainA.com email and
>>> domainB.com email, and to be able to send from either one.
>>
>> You'll need ChooseFrom for the sending part. You could put a "AB" in
>> extension attribute 10 and then create a recipient policy with the
>> highest priority that matches "AB" and applies addresses with both
>> domains.
>>
>>> 2) Have 3 more domain users who need only domainB.com email
>>
>> That second-highest priority could match "B" in extension attribute 10.
>>
>>> 3) Everyone else only has domainA.com email
>>
>> This would be your lowest priority policy that matches all recipients.
>>
>>>
>>> Article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289833/en-us states under the
>>> step 11 note, "You may not want every user to have the secondary e-mail
>>> address. If you click No, you must create another recipient policy for
>>> those specific users who need this addresses, or manually add the
>>> address for each user." I don't get the part about "...or manually add
>>> the address for each user."
>>
>> I think the approach I just gave you makes this moot.
>>
>>> All 25 users are on one SBS domain, as they need access to resources on
>>> the SBS server. Some of them work for a sister company, hence the need
>>> for the second domain email. For the sister company, they currently use
>>> their web host for domainB.com to do their email and they POP it into
>>> Outlook. I want everything in Exchange.
>>>
>>> As far as the MX record for domainB.com, if I understand this article to
>>> be correct http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html, then the MX
>>> record for domainB.com should be the same MX as domainA.com
>>> (mail.domainA.com) so that PTR records (and the mail server greeting, if
>>> it matters) work properly. Or should I have a mail.domainB.com MX record
>>> with its corresponding A record pointing to the SBS server IP address?
>>
>> Two MX records both pointing to one A record is just fine.
>>
>>> What are the functional differences between the two methods (both
>>> domains in default policy, or two separate policies)?
>>
>> Follow my approach for best results.
>>
>>> I can think of the following:
>>>
>>> 1) If the second domain is added to the default policy, then ALL domain
>>> users get the second domain address as well, correct?
>>
>> Remember that only the highest matching policy applies. So the approach
>> I suggest should be foolproof.
>>
>>> 2) If a separate recipient policy is used, then I could choose specific
>>> users to get the second domain, correct?
>>
>> Yes, like I described.
>>
>>> Thank you!
>>
>> Happy to have helped.
>>
>>> Gregg Hill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Questions about multiple email domains on SBS 2003 SP1 with Exchange 2003 SP2 by Gregg

Gregg
Fri Mar 28 09:20:19 PDT 2008

Ed,

Can you tell me where these attributes are located? ADUC or Exchange
manager? When I Googled, one of the first hits I got was this thread! Dang,
I hate it when that happens!

Thank you!

Gregg Hill


"Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
news:%2329aerOkIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> You're smart enough to know how to Google! You could use just about any
> other attribute as well, like company.
> --
> Ed Crowley
> MVP - Exchange
> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>
> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:%23B6tpGKkIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Ed,
>>
>> You claimed that "So the approach I suggest should be foolproof." Well,
>> you didn't take into account that this fool has no idea what you mean by
>> "extension attribute 10"!
>>
>> So, it is off to Google I go to find out what you mean by that.
>>
>> Thank you for the additional information to get me going in the right
>> direction!
>>
>> Gregg Hill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23Th%23YMIkIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Comments inline.
>>> --
>>> Ed Crowley
>>> MVP - Exchange
>>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>>
>>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e$Mjz$HkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good
>>>> answer.
>>>>
>>>> I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to
>>>> be able to send from those two domains and not just send from the
>>>> default Exchange account. I have read
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us and it says to have all
>>>> domains in the default policy. I have read other articles that say to
>>>> create a new recipient policy for the domain.
>>>
>>> They're both right. Best practice is to put all valid domains in the
>>> default policy and then create other higher-priority policies with
>>> appropriate filters that apply to recipients. In general, your
>>> lowest-priority additonal policy would match everyone so it would apply
>>> to all users that higher-priority filters don't touch, which means the
>>> default policy never comes into play.
>>>
>>>> I had ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) working with domain
>>>> aliases, but that died a while back...not sure why...could be related
>>>> to installing Vamsoft ORF for spam filtering (NDR states: You do not
>>>> have permission to send to this recipient).
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking that ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) could
>>>> help meet my goals.
>>>>
>>>> My goals are:
>>>>
>>>> 1) To have 3 users out of 25 who will have both domainA.com email and
>>>> domainB.com email, and to be able to send from either one.
>>>
>>> You'll need ChooseFrom for the sending part. You could put a "AB" in
>>> extension attribute 10 and then create a recipient policy with the
>>> highest priority that matches "AB" and applies addresses with both
>>> domains.
>>>
>>>> 2) Have 3 more domain users who need only domainB.com email
>>>
>>> That second-highest priority could match "B" in extension attribute 10.
>>>
>>>> 3) Everyone else only has domainA.com email
>>>
>>> This would be your lowest priority policy that matches all recipients.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289833/en-us states under the
>>>> step 11 note, "You may not want every user to have the secondary e-mail
>>>> address. If you click No, you must create another recipient policy for
>>>> those specific users who need this addresses, or manually add the
>>>> address for each user." I don't get the part about "...or manually add
>>>> the address for each user."
>>>
>>> I think the approach I just gave you makes this moot.
>>>
>>>> All 25 users are on one SBS domain, as they need access to resources on
>>>> the SBS server. Some of them work for a sister company, hence the need
>>>> for the second domain email. For the sister company, they currently use
>>>> their web host for domainB.com to do their email and they POP it into
>>>> Outlook. I want everything in Exchange.
>>>>
>>>> As far as the MX record for domainB.com, if I understand this article
>>>> to be correct http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html, then the
>>>> MX record for domainB.com should be the same MX as domainA.com
>>>> (mail.domainA.com) so that PTR records (and the mail server greeting,
>>>> if it matters) work properly. Or should I have a mail.domainB.com MX
>>>> record with its corresponding A record pointing to the SBS server IP
>>>> address?
>>>
>>> Two MX records both pointing to one A record is just fine.
>>>
>>>> What are the functional differences between the two methods (both
>>>> domains in default policy, or two separate policies)?
>>>
>>> Follow my approach for best results.
>>>
>>>> I can think of the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1) If the second domain is added to the default policy, then ALL domain
>>>> users get the second domain address as well, correct?
>>>
>>> Remember that only the highest matching policy applies. So the approach
>>> I suggest should be foolproof.
>>>
>>>> 2) If a separate recipient policy is used, then I could choose specific
>>>> users to get the second domain, correct?
>>>
>>> Yes, like I described.
>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Happy to have helped.
>>>
>>>> Gregg Hill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Questions about multiple email domains on SBS 2003 SP1 with Exchange 2003 SP2 by kj

kj
Fri Mar 28 09:41:32 PDT 2008


"Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:O0vge%23OkIHA.2276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Ed,
>
> Can you tell me where these attributes are located? ADUC or Exchange
> manager? When I Googled, one of the first hits I got was this thread!
> Dang, I hate it when that happens!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Gregg Hill

Company is an AD object attribute often used for the user. The extended
attributes are old exchange legacy stuff when the two were seperate
directories.

In short, your custom recepient policy can ldap query object attributes to
generate addresses based on those conditions. Ie,

user "companyA", email address = user@companyA.com , user "companyB", email
address =user@companyB.com

Somewhere there's a step by step for creating a custom recepient policy to
configure for multiple comanies within a single exchange organization.

>
>
> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
> news:%2329aerOkIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You're smart enough to know how to Google! You could use just about any
>> other attribute as well, like company.
>> --
>> Ed Crowley
>> MVP - Exchange
>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>
>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23B6tpGKkIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> You claimed that "So the approach I suggest should be foolproof." Well,
>>> you didn't take into account that this fool has no idea what you mean by
>>> "extension attribute 10"!
>>>
>>> So, it is off to Google I go to find out what you mean by that.
>>>
>>> Thank you for the additional information to get me going in the right
>>> direction!
>>>
>>> Gregg Hill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23Th%23YMIkIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Comments inline.
>>>> --
>>>> Ed Crowley
>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>>>
>>>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e$Mjz$HkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good
>>>>> answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to
>>>>> be able to send from those two domains and not just send from the
>>>>> default Exchange account. I have read
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us and it says to have all
>>>>> domains in the default policy. I have read other articles that say to
>>>>> create a new recipient policy for the domain.
>>>>
>>>> They're both right. Best practice is to put all valid domains in the
>>>> default policy and then create other higher-priority policies with
>>>> appropriate filters that apply to recipients. In general, your
>>>> lowest-priority additonal policy would match everyone so it would apply
>>>> to all users that higher-priority filters don't touch, which means the
>>>> default policy never comes into play.
>>>>
>>>>> I had ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) working with domain
>>>>> aliases, but that died a while back...not sure why...could be related
>>>>> to installing Vamsoft ORF for spam filtering (NDR states: You do not
>>>>> have permission to send to this recipient).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking that ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) could
>>>>> help meet my goals.
>>>>>
>>>>> My goals are:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) To have 3 users out of 25 who will have both domainA.com email and
>>>>> domainB.com email, and to be able to send from either one.
>>>>
>>>> You'll need ChooseFrom for the sending part. You could put a "AB" in
>>>> extension attribute 10 and then create a recipient policy with the
>>>> highest priority that matches "AB" and applies addresses with both
>>>> domains.
>>>>
>>>>> 2) Have 3 more domain users who need only domainB.com email
>>>>
>>>> That second-highest priority could match "B" in extension attribute 10.
>>>>
>>>>> 3) Everyone else only has domainA.com email
>>>>
>>>> This would be your lowest priority policy that matches all recipients.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289833/en-us states under the
>>>>> step 11 note, "You may not want every user to have the secondary
>>>>> e-mail address. If you click No, you must create another recipient
>>>>> policy for those specific users who need this addresses, or manually
>>>>> add the address for each user." I don't get the part about "...or
>>>>> manually add the address for each user."
>>>>
>>>> I think the approach I just gave you makes this moot.
>>>>
>>>>> All 25 users are on one SBS domain, as they need access to resources
>>>>> on the SBS server. Some of them work for a sister company, hence the
>>>>> need for the second domain email. For the sister company, they
>>>>> currently use their web host for domainB.com to do their email and
>>>>> they POP it into Outlook. I want everything in Exchange.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as the MX record for domainB.com, if I understand this article
>>>>> to be correct http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html, then the
>>>>> MX record for domainB.com should be the same MX as domainA.com
>>>>> (mail.domainA.com) so that PTR records (and the mail server greeting,
>>>>> if it matters) work properly. Or should I have a mail.domainB.com MX
>>>>> record with its corresponding A record pointing to the SBS server IP
>>>>> address?
>>>>
>>>> Two MX records both pointing to one A record is just fine.
>>>>
>>>>> What are the functional differences between the two methods (both
>>>>> domains in default policy, or two separate policies)?
>>>>
>>>> Follow my approach for best results.
>>>>
>>>>> I can think of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) If the second domain is added to the default policy, then ALL
>>>>> domain users get the second domain address as well, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Remember that only the highest matching policy applies. So the
>>>> approach I suggest should be foolproof.
>>>>
>>>>> 2) If a separate recipient policy is used, then I could choose
>>>>> specific users to get the second domain, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, like I described.
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Happy to have helped.
>>>>
>>>>> Gregg Hill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Questions about multiple email domains on SBS 2003 SP1 with Exchange 2003 SP2 by kj

kj
Fri Mar 28 09:42:48 PDT 2008


"Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:O0vge%23OkIHA.2276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Ed,
>
> Can you tell me where these attributes are located? ADUC or Exchange
> manager? When I Googled, one of the first hits I got was this thread!
> Dang, I hate it when that happens!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Gregg Hill

Ah, try here;

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Implementing-Custom-Recipient-Policies.html

>
>
> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
> news:%2329aerOkIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You're smart enough to know how to Google! You could use just about any
>> other attribute as well, like company.
>> --
>> Ed Crowley
>> MVP - Exchange
>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>
>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23B6tpGKkIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> You claimed that "So the approach I suggest should be foolproof." Well,
>>> you didn't take into account that this fool has no idea what you mean by
>>> "extension attribute 10"!
>>>
>>> So, it is off to Google I go to find out what you mean by that.
>>>
>>> Thank you for the additional information to get me going in the right
>>> direction!
>>>
>>> Gregg Hill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23Th%23YMIkIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Comments inline.
>>>> --
>>>> Ed Crowley
>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>>>
>>>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e$Mjz$HkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good
>>>>> answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to
>>>>> be able to send from those two domains and not just send from the
>>>>> default Exchange account. I have read
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us and it says to have all
>>>>> domains in the default policy. I have read other articles that say to
>>>>> create a new recipient policy for the domain.
>>>>
>>>> They're both right. Best practice is to put all valid domains in the
>>>> default policy and then create other higher-priority policies with
>>>> appropriate filters that apply to recipients. In general, your
>>>> lowest-priority additonal policy would match everyone so it would apply
>>>> to all users that higher-priority filters don't touch, which means the
>>>> default policy never comes into play.
>>>>
>>>>> I had ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) working with domain
>>>>> aliases, but that died a while back...not sure why...could be related
>>>>> to installing Vamsoft ORF for spam filtering (NDR states: You do not
>>>>> have permission to send to this recipient).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking that ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) could
>>>>> help meet my goals.
>>>>>
>>>>> My goals are:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) To have 3 users out of 25 who will have both domainA.com email and
>>>>> domainB.com email, and to be able to send from either one.
>>>>
>>>> You'll need ChooseFrom for the sending part. You could put a "AB" in
>>>> extension attribute 10 and then create a recipient policy with the
>>>> highest priority that matches "AB" and applies addresses with both
>>>> domains.
>>>>
>>>>> 2) Have 3 more domain users who need only domainB.com email
>>>>
>>>> That second-highest priority could match "B" in extension attribute 10.
>>>>
>>>>> 3) Everyone else only has domainA.com email
>>>>
>>>> This would be your lowest priority policy that matches all recipients.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289833/en-us states under the
>>>>> step 11 note, "You may not want every user to have the secondary
>>>>> e-mail address. If you click No, you must create another recipient
>>>>> policy for those specific users who need this addresses, or manually
>>>>> add the address for each user." I don't get the part about "...or
>>>>> manually add the address for each user."
>>>>
>>>> I think the approach I just gave you makes this moot.
>>>>
>>>>> All 25 users are on one SBS domain, as they need access to resources
>>>>> on the SBS server. Some of them work for a sister company, hence the
>>>>> need for the second domain email. For the sister company, they
>>>>> currently use their web host for domainB.com to do their email and
>>>>> they POP it into Outlook. I want everything in Exchange.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as the MX record for domainB.com, if I understand this article
>>>>> to be correct http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html, then the
>>>>> MX record for domainB.com should be the same MX as domainA.com
>>>>> (mail.domainA.com) so that PTR records (and the mail server greeting,
>>>>> if it matters) work properly. Or should I have a mail.domainB.com MX
>>>>> record with its corresponding A record pointing to the SBS server IP
>>>>> address?
>>>>
>>>> Two MX records both pointing to one A record is just fine.
>>>>
>>>>> What are the functional differences between the two methods (both
>>>>> domains in default policy, or two separate policies)?
>>>>
>>>> Follow my approach for best results.
>>>>
>>>>> I can think of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) If the second domain is added to the default policy, then ALL
>>>>> domain users get the second domain address as well, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Remember that only the highest matching policy applies. So the
>>>> approach I suggest should be foolproof.
>>>>
>>>>> 2) If a separate recipient policy is used, then I could choose
>>>>> specific users to get the second domain, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, like I described.
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Happy to have helped.
>>>>
>>>>> Gregg Hill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Questions about multiple email domains on SBS 2003 SP1 with Exchange 2003 SP2 by Ed

Ed
Fri Mar 28 12:22:24 PDT 2008

The best way is to look at a user using ADSI Edit. You'll see the attribute
names there, and you can compare them to what the values are in the user
properties in Active Directory Users and Computers.
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"

"Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:O0vge%23OkIHA.2276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Ed,
>
> Can you tell me where these attributes are located? ADUC or Exchange
> manager? When I Googled, one of the first hits I got was this thread!
> Dang, I hate it when that happens!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Gregg Hill
>
>
> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
> news:%2329aerOkIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You're smart enough to know how to Google! You could use just about any
>> other attribute as well, like company.
>> --
>> Ed Crowley
>> MVP - Exchange
>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>
>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23B6tpGKkIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> You claimed that "So the approach I suggest should be foolproof." Well,
>>> you didn't take into account that this fool has no idea what you mean by
>>> "extension attribute 10"!
>>>
>>> So, it is off to Google I go to find out what you mean by that.
>>>
>>> Thank you for the additional information to get me going in the right
>>> direction!
>>>
>>> Gregg Hill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23Th%23YMIkIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Comments inline.
>>>> --
>>>> Ed Crowley
>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>>>
>>>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e$Mjz$HkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good
>>>>> answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to
>>>>> be able to send from those two domains and not just send from the
>>>>> default Exchange account. I have read
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us and it says to have all
>>>>> domains in the default policy. I have read other articles that say to
>>>>> create a new recipient policy for the domain.
>>>>
>>>> They're both right. Best practice is to put all valid domains in the
>>>> default policy and then create other higher-priority policies with
>>>> appropriate filters that apply to recipients. In general, your
>>>> lowest-priority additonal policy would match everyone so it would apply
>>>> to all users that higher-priority filters don't touch, which means the
>>>> default policy never comes into play.
>>>>
>>>>> I had ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) working with domain
>>>>> aliases, but that died a while back...not sure why...could be related
>>>>> to installing Vamsoft ORF for spam filtering (NDR states: You do not
>>>>> have permission to send to this recipient).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking that ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) could
>>>>> help meet my goals.
>>>>>
>>>>> My goals are:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) To have 3 users out of 25 who will have both domainA.com email and
>>>>> domainB.com email, and to be able to send from either one.
>>>>
>>>> You'll need ChooseFrom for the sending part. You could put a "AB" in
>>>> extension attribute 10 and then create a recipient policy with the
>>>> highest priority that matches "AB" and applies addresses with both
>>>> domains.
>>>>
>>>>> 2) Have 3 more domain users who need only domainB.com email
>>>>
>>>> That second-highest priority could match "B" in extension attribute 10.
>>>>
>>>>> 3) Everyone else only has domainA.com email
>>>>
>>>> This would be your lowest priority policy that matches all recipients.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289833/en-us states under the
>>>>> step 11 note, "You may not want every user to have the secondary
>>>>> e-mail address. If you click No, you must create another recipient
>>>>> policy for those specific users who need this addresses, or manually
>>>>> add the address for each user." I don't get the part about "...or
>>>>> manually add the address for each user."
>>>>
>>>> I think the approach I just gave you makes this moot.
>>>>
>>>>> All 25 users are on one SBS domain, as they need access to resources
>>>>> on the SBS server. Some of them work for a sister company, hence the
>>>>> need for the second domain email. For the sister company, they
>>>>> currently use their web host for domainB.com to do their email and
>>>>> they POP it into Outlook. I want everything in Exchange.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as the MX record for domainB.com, if I understand this article
>>>>> to be correct http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html, then the
>>>>> MX record for domainB.com should be the same MX as domainA.com
>>>>> (mail.domainA.com) so that PTR records (and the mail server greeting,
>>>>> if it matters) work properly. Or should I have a mail.domainB.com MX
>>>>> record with its corresponding A record pointing to the SBS server IP
>>>>> address?
>>>>
>>>> Two MX records both pointing to one A record is just fine.
>>>>
>>>>> What are the functional differences between the two methods (both
>>>>> domains in default policy, or two separate policies)?
>>>>
>>>> Follow my approach for best results.
>>>>
>>>>> I can think of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) If the second domain is added to the default policy, then ALL
>>>>> domain users get the second domain address as well, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Remember that only the highest matching policy applies. So the
>>>> approach I suggest should be foolproof.
>>>>
>>>>> 2) If a separate recipient policy is used, then I could choose
>>>>> specific users to get the second domain, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, like I described.
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Happy to have helped.
>>>>
>>>>> Gregg Hill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Questions about multiple email domains on SBS 2003 SP1 with Exchange 2003 SP2 by Gregg

Gregg
Fri Mar 28 15:24:02 PDT 2008

Thank you! I think I will wait until tomorrow for that reading.

Gregg Hill




"kj [SBS MVP}" <james.kevin.r.SPAMFREE@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uq1oDLPkIHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:O0vge%23OkIHA.2276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Ed,
>>
>> Can you tell me where these attributes are located? ADUC or Exchange
>> manager? When I Googled, one of the first hits I got was this thread!
>> Dang, I hate it when that happens!
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Gregg Hill
>
> Ah, try here;
>
> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Implementing-Custom-Recipient-Policies.html
>
>>
>>
>> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
>> news:%2329aerOkIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> You're smart enough to know how to Google! You could use just about any
>>> other attribute as well, like company.
>>> --
>>> Ed Crowley
>>> MVP - Exchange
>>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>>
>>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23B6tpGKkIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> You claimed that "So the approach I suggest should be foolproof." Well,
>>>> you didn't take into account that this fool has no idea what you mean
>>>> by "extension attribute 10"!
>>>>
>>>> So, it is off to Google I go to find out what you mean by that.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the additional information to get me going in the right
>>>> direction!
>>>>
>>>> Gregg Hill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23Th%23YMIkIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Comments inline.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ed Crowley
>>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e$Mjz$HkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good
>>>>>> answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to
>>>>>> be able to send from those two domains and not just send from the
>>>>>> default Exchange account. I have read
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us and it says to have all
>>>>>> domains in the default policy. I have read other articles that say to
>>>>>> create a new recipient policy for the domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> They're both right. Best practice is to put all valid domains in the
>>>>> default policy and then create other higher-priority policies with
>>>>> appropriate filters that apply to recipients. In general, your
>>>>> lowest-priority additonal policy would match everyone so it would
>>>>> apply to all users that higher-priority filters don't touch, which
>>>>> means the default policy never comes into play.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) working with domain
>>>>>> aliases, but that died a while back...not sure why...could be related
>>>>>> to installing Vamsoft ORF for spam filtering (NDR states: You do not
>>>>>> have permission to send to this recipient).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am thinking that ChooseFrom (with SmartFrom and SmartReply) could
>>>>>> help meet my goals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My goals are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) To have 3 users out of 25 who will have both domainA.com email and
>>>>>> domainB.com email, and to be able to send from either one.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll need ChooseFrom for the sending part. You could put a "AB" in
>>>>> extension attribute 10 and then create a recipient policy with the
>>>>> highest priority that matches "AB" and applies addresses with both
>>>>> domains.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Have 3 more domain users who need only domainB.com email
>>>>>
>>>>> That second-highest priority could match "B" in extension attribute
>>>>> 10.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) Everyone else only has domainA.com email
>>>>>
>>>>> This would be your lowest priority policy that matches all recipients.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289833/en-us states under the
>>>>>> step 11 note, "You may not want every user to have the secondary
>>>>>> e-mail address. If you click No, you must create another recipient
>>>>>> policy for those specific users who need this addresses, or manually
>>>>>> add the address for each user." I don't get the part about "...or
>>>>>> manually add the address for each user."
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the approach I just gave you makes this moot.
>>>>>
>>>>>> All 25 users are on one SBS domain, as they need access to resources
>>>>>> on the SBS server. Some of them work for a sister company, hence the
>>>>>> need for the second domain email. For the sister company, they
>>>>>> currently use their web host for domainB.com to do their email and
>>>>>> they POP it into Outlook. I want everything in Exchange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as the MX record for domainB.com, if I understand this article
>>>>>> to be correct http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html, then
>>>>>> the MX record for domainB.com should be the same MX as domainA.com
>>>>>> (mail.domainA.com) so that PTR records (and the mail server greeting,
>>>>>> if it matters) work properly. Or should I have a mail.domainB.com MX
>>>>>> record with its corresponding A record pointing to the SBS server IP
>>>>>> address?
>>>>>
>>>>> Two MX records both pointing to one A record is just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What are the functional differences between the two methods (both
>>>>>> domains in default policy, or two separate policies)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Follow my approach for best results.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can think of the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) If the second domain is added to the default policy, then ALL
>>>>>> domain users get the second domain address as well, correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember that only the highest matching policy applies. So the
>>>>> approach I suggest should be foolproof.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) If a separate recipient policy is used, then I could choose
>>>>>> specific users to get the second domain, correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, like I described.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy to have helped.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gregg Hill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Questions about multiple email domains on SBS 2003 SP1 with Exchange 2003 SP2 by Gregg

Gregg
Sat Mar 29 20:06:37 PDT 2008

Here is another thought, albeit a small one!

If I have some users who have both domainA.com and domainB.com email, can
Outlook be set up with two different profiles, one for each of the domains,
or do both domains automatically go to one Exchange account?

Gregg Hill









"Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
news:uXOHOkQkIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The best way is to look at a user using ADSI Edit. You'll see the
> attribute names there, and you can compare them to what the values are in
> the user properties in Active Directory Users and Computers.
> --
> Ed Crowley
> MVP - Exchange
> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>
> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:O0vge%23OkIHA.2276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Ed,
>>
>> Can you tell me where these attributes are located? ADUC or Exchange
>> manager? When I Googled, one of the first hits I got was this thread!
>> Dang, I hate it when that happens!
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Gregg Hill
>>
>>
>> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
>> news:%2329aerOkIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> You're smart enough to know how to Google! You could use just about any
>>> other attribute as well, like company.
>>> --
>>> Ed Crowley
>>> MVP - Exchange
>>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>>
>>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23B6tpGKkIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> You claimed that "So the approach I suggest should be foolproof." Well,
>>>> you didn't take into account that this fool has no idea what you mean
>>>> by "extension attribute 10"!
>>>>
>>>> So, it is off to Google I go to find out what you mean by that.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the additional information to get me going in the right
>>>> direction!
>>>>
>>>> Gregg Hill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23Th%23YMIkIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Comments inline.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ed Crowley
>>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e$Mjz$HkIHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cross-posted to the Exchange group in case gurus there have a good
>>>>>> answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to set up an SBS server to receive mail for two domains and to
>>>>>> be able to send from those two domains and not just send from the
>>>>>> default Exchange account. I have read
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/268838/en-us and it says to have all
>>>>>> domains in the default policy. I have read other articles that say to
>>>>>> create a new recipient policy for the domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> They're both right. Best practice is to put all valid domains in the
>>>>> default policy and then create other higher-priority policies with
>>>>> appropriate filters that apply to recipients. In general, your
>>>>> lowest-priority additonal policy would match everyone so it would
>>>>> ap