I finally gave into temptation and installed ISA Server on my sbs2003 box.
Outlook has been dreadful ever since, taking a very long time to fetch data
from the Exchange server. This definitely was not a problem before the
installation. I was wondering if I have misconfigured some rule.

Anyone have any similar problems? Would be intrested to hear.

Al

Re: Outlook very slow after ISA install by Dave

Dave
Fri Sep 19 13:49:33 PDT 2008

Did you re-run the CEICW after installing ISA? If not, I'd start there - it
will do all the ISA configuration for you.

Regardless, it doesn't seem like installing ISA on the server should effect
Outlook performance. Have you checked the logs on the SBS and the
workstations to see if any errors are being logged? Have you looked at Task
Manager to see if there's any kind of an issue with CPU or RAM?

Are you having any other symptoms from these workstations? For example,
does access to file shares and the Internet appear to be functioning
normally?

What happens if you create a new mail profile for one user - still slow?



"Allistair Lomax" <allistairlomax@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:exlFLfoGJHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I finally gave into temptation and installed ISA Server on my sbs2003 box.
>Outlook has been dreadful ever since, taking a very long time to fetch data
>from the Exchange server. This definitely was not a problem before the
>installation. I was wondering if I have misconfigured some rule.
>
> Anyone have any similar problems? Would be intrested to hear.
>
> Al


Re: Outlook very slow after ISA install by Allistair

Allistair
Sat Sep 20 03:29:37 PDT 2008

Thanks for replying Dave, I appreciate it.

Yes, I did run CIECW after the install, as per instructed. I assumed that
would configure the rules as normal.

I've been checking the logs on the server very closely since ISA was
installed, and nothing I consider as significant has appeared. It hadn't
occurred to me to check the event logs on the workstations. The only thing I
can find in the Application event log regarding Outlook is this
"The store C:\Users\<deleted>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook\SharePoint
Lists.pst has detected a catalog checkpoint." There is nothing in the System
log.

I have had trouble with memory issues on the server. The server has access
to 4GB of RAM, but usage displays that about 3.5GB of that is regularly in
use. The box has 2 Quad Pro processors, and frankly they are hardly being
touched by the usage on the server. There is a lot running on that server
with various instances of SQL Server, (a notorious memory-gobbler). Hard
Disk space is running short on the system drive, with about 3.7GB free on a
40GB partition. I had wondered whether that might be slowing Exchange 2003
down.

Otherwise everything seems to functioning as normal. Only other thing I had
noticed was a slow down in OWA.

I will try your suggestion about creating a new mail profile and see if that
has any effect.

Many thanks,
Al
"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:e2B45kpGJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Did you re-run the CEICW after installing ISA? If not, I'd start there -
> it will do all the ISA configuration for you.
>
> Regardless, it doesn't seem like installing ISA on the server should
> effect Outlook performance. Have you checked the logs on the SBS and the
> workstations to see if any errors are being logged? Have you looked at
> Task Manager to see if there's any kind of an issue with CPU or RAM?
>
> Are you having any other symptoms from these workstations? For example,
> does access to file shares and the Internet appear to be functioning
> normally?
>
> What happens if you create a new mail profile for one user - still slow?
>
>
>
> "Allistair Lomax" <allistairlomax@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:exlFLfoGJHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I finally gave into temptation and installed ISA Server on my sbs2003 box.
>>Outlook has been dreadful ever since, taking a very long time to fetch
>>data from the Exchange server. This definitely was not a problem before
>>the installation. I was wondering if I have misconfigured some rule.
>>
>> Anyone have any similar problems? Would be intrested to hear.
>>
>> Al
>


Re: Outlook very slow after ISA install by Dave

Dave
Sat Sep 20 13:33:41 PDT 2008

One more thing you could try. Go into Services and temporarily stop the SQL
instances, and see if you get a better result with Outlook then. That might
indicate a problem with resources on the SBS. There are ways to throttle
back the memory usage of the SQL instances, but there's no point in
considering that until you're sure it'll make a difference.

I would expect that if your Exchange databases are cramped for space, that
could be an issue. You're doing regular online backups every night to clear
out the Exchange transaction logs, right? I would expect that Exchange
would complain like crazy if it had insufficient space (in the application
log), and if it runs out, it'll dismount the databases. I keep at least 20%
free space on my Exchange partition, and that's 20% of the maximum -
including all the logs it's created up to right before the online backup.

Antivirus configuration could play a part in this, although that seems
doubtful given that the problem occurred right after installing ISA. If I
had to take one wild guess, I'd think maybe you've got ISA logging to SQL,
and the SQL logging database is grabbing up RAM. But I'd start by testing
with my first suggestion, shutting down the SQL instances to see if that
helps the Outlook/Exchange issue.

"Allistair Lomax" <allistairlomax@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eAslKvwGJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for replying Dave, I appreciate it.
>
> Yes, I did run CIECW after the install, as per instructed. I assumed that
> would configure the rules as normal.
>
> I've been checking the logs on the server very closely since ISA was
> installed, and nothing I consider as significant has appeared. It hadn't
> occurred to me to check the event logs on the workstations. The only thing
> I can find in the Application event log regarding Outlook is this
> "The store C:\Users\<deleted>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook\SharePoint
> Lists.pst has detected a catalog checkpoint." There is nothing in the
> System log.
>
> I have had trouble with memory issues on the server. The server has access
> to 4GB of RAM, but usage displays that about 3.5GB of that is regularly in
> use. The box has 2 Quad Pro processors, and frankly they are hardly being
> touched by the usage on the server. There is a lot running on that server
> with various instances of SQL Server, (a notorious memory-gobbler). Hard
> Disk space is running short on the system drive, with about 3.7GB free on
> a 40GB partition. I had wondered whether that might be slowing Exchange
> 2003 down.
>
> Otherwise everything seems to functioning as normal. Only other thing I
> had noticed was a slow down in OWA.
>
> I will try your suggestion about creating a new mail profile and see if
> that has any effect.
>
> Many thanks,
> Al
> "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote in
> message news:e2B45kpGJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Did you re-run the CEICW after installing ISA? If not, I'd start there -
>> it will do all the ISA configuration for you.
>>
>> Regardless, it doesn't seem like installing ISA on the server should
>> effect Outlook performance. Have you checked the logs on the SBS and the
>> workstations to see if any errors are being logged? Have you looked at
>> Task Manager to see if there's any kind of an issue with CPU or RAM?
>>
>> Are you having any other symptoms from these workstations? For example,
>> does access to file shares and the Internet appear to be functioning
>> normally?
>>
>> What happens if you create a new mail profile for one user - still slow?
>>
>>
>>
>> "Allistair Lomax" <allistairlomax@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:exlFLfoGJHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>I finally gave into temptation and installed ISA Server on my sbs2003
>>>box. Outlook has been dreadful ever since, taking a very long time to
>>>fetch data from the Exchange server. This definitely was not a problem
>>>before the installation. I was wondering if I have misconfigured some
>>>rule.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any similar problems? Would be intrested to hear.
>>>
>>> Al
>>
>


Re: Outlook very slow after ISA install by Allistair

Allistair
Sun Sep 21 10:15:04 PDT 2008

Thanks, once again, Dave.

I'll give it a try and see if it makes a difference.

Many thanks for your suggestions,

Al
"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:uO1QtA2GJHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> One more thing you could try. Go into Services and temporarily stop the
> SQL instances, and see if you get a better result with Outlook then. That
> might indicate a problem with resources on the SBS. There are ways to
> throttle back the memory usage of the SQL instances, but there's no point
> in considering that until you're sure it'll make a difference.
>
> I would expect that if your Exchange databases are cramped for space, that
> could be an issue. You're doing regular online backups every night to
> clear out the Exchange transaction logs, right? I would expect that
> Exchange would complain like crazy if it had insufficient space (in the
> application log), and if it runs out, it'll dismount the databases. I
> keep at least 20% free space on my Exchange partition, and that's 20% of
> the maximum - including all the logs it's created up to right before the
> online backup.
>
> Antivirus configuration could play a part in this, although that seems
> doubtful given that the problem occurred right after installing ISA. If I
> had to take one wild guess, I'd think maybe you've got ISA logging to SQL,
> and the SQL logging database is grabbing up RAM. But I'd start by testing
> with my first suggestion, shutting down the SQL instances to see if that
> helps the Outlook/Exchange issue.
>
> "Allistair Lomax" <allistairlomax@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:eAslKvwGJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for replying Dave, I appreciate it.
>>
>> Yes, I did run CIECW after the install, as per instructed. I assumed that
>> would configure the rules as normal.
>>
>> I've been checking the logs on the server very closely since ISA was
>> installed, and nothing I consider as significant has appeared. It hadn't
>> occurred to me to check the event logs on the workstations. The only
>> thing I can find in the Application event log regarding Outlook is this
>> "The store C:\Users\<deleted>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook\SharePoint
>> Lists.pst has detected a catalog checkpoint." There is nothing in the
>> System log.
>>
>> I have had trouble with memory issues on the server. The server has
>> access to 4GB of RAM, but usage displays that about 3.5GB of that is
>> regularly in use. The box has 2 Quad Pro processors, and frankly they are
>> hardly being touched by the usage on the server. There is a lot running
>> on that server with various instances of SQL Server, (a notorious
>> memory-gobbler). Hard Disk space is running short on the system drive,
>> with about 3.7GB free on a 40GB partition. I had wondered whether that
>> might be slowing Exchange 2003 down.
>>
>> Otherwise everything seems to functioning as normal. Only other thing I
>> had noticed was a slow down in OWA.
>>
>> I will try your suggestion about creating a new mail profile and see if
>> that has any effect.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Al
>> "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote in
>> message news:e2B45kpGJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Did you re-run the CEICW after installing ISA? If not, I'd start
>>> there - it will do all the ISA configuration for you.
>>>
>>> Regardless, it doesn't seem like installing ISA on the server should
>>> effect Outlook performance. Have you checked the logs on the SBS and
>>> the workstations to see if any errors are being logged? Have you looked
>>> at Task Manager to see if there's any kind of an issue with CPU or RAM?
>>>
>>> Are you having any other symptoms from these workstations? For example,
>>> does access to file shares and the Internet appear to be functioning
>>> normally?
>>>
>>> What happens if you create a new mail profile for one user - still slow?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Allistair Lomax" <allistairlomax@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:exlFLfoGJHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>I finally gave into temptation and installed ISA Server on my sbs2003
>>>>box. Outlook has been dreadful ever since, taking a very long time to
>>>>fetch data from the Exchange server. This definitely was not a problem
>>>>before the installation. I was wondering if I have misconfigured some
>>>>rule.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any similar problems? Would be intrested to hear.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>
>>
>