barretech
Tue Jul 08 04:56:10 PDT 2008
There were no saved passwords. So that was not the problem.
But I have good new results of new testing
The laptop DOES allow a different user to use Outlook over Internet. I
set up a different account on the server and a new local account on
the laptop and Outlook does work.
So apparently the problem only exists when there is a combination of
that username and that laptop. I say this because I configured my
Outlook to connect to the same mailbox and it CAN connect to the
server .
Granted, this is while logged in as me. I think I have to set up a new
account on this computer and see if it fails. That might be a good
test but probably a waste of time. Here is why
One more bit of info that might help make sense of this -- OWA does
not work with IE unless I choose the "Basic" option. When I click on a
mail message, it does not open the message. It simply says "Error" in
the lower left corner. So maybe this is an IE authentication
problem(?) I will look at the IE settings and consider that IE is at
the root of the problem somehow.
And to your point I will look at this too (you said "The only other
place I can think of where passwords are saved is IE, and while I
can't imagine it's that, you could try deleting those if all else
fails.")
On Jul 7, 1:41=A0pm, barret...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Yes all is correct. Thanks again. I will try deleting the password. I
> have seen situations where .Net apps SQL apps have problems with this
> "saved password" area.
>
> On Jul 1, 11:40=A0am, "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]"
>
>
>
> <gwdib...@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote:
> > That's pretty weird. =A0You've verified that all the settings match tho=
se in
> > the working account, including the authentication type, right?
>
> > I would go into CP -> Users and open the properties of the account. =A0=
On the
> > Advanced tab, check the saved passwords. =A0You could try just deleting=
them
> > all, or at least any that seem like they could be the cause.
>
> > Other than that, I can't think of anything that could be causing this. =
=A0Can
> > the user authenticate to RWW normally?
>
> > The only other place I can think of where passwords are saved is IE, an=
d
> > while I can't imagine it's that, you could try deleting those if all el=
se
> > fails.
>
> > <barret...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:ca7a266c-1d62-41f7-83f6-ee3efb38d951@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 30, 3:59 pm, "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]"
>
> > <gwdib...@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote:
> > > Have you tried creating a new mail profile for the user? It seems lik=
e
> > > you've exhausted the connection issues by virtue of the fact that all=
the
> > > settings between the two laptops match, and that all the connection p=
oints
> > > between the laptops and the SBS are the same.
>
> > > I've had bizarre wireless issues - for example, 802.1x authentication
> > > would
> > > work from all but one laptop, and what fixed it was replacing the wir=
eless
> > > NIC. But, I've never had an issue related specifically to wireless wh=
ere
> > > you had a successful connection, but then a specific function failed =
over
> > > that connection. I can't remember if you've said, but have you tried
> > > connecting the laptop to a different (preferably wired) connection?
>
> > > <barret...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:95db893f-b040-40ca-991d-acc636f04351@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com.=
..
> > > On Jun 28, 3:25 pm, "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]"
>
> > > <gwdib...@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote:
> > > > Try connecting some other way than the Verizon card. I had a nightm=
are a
> > > > few months ago where my boss's PC stopped connecting reliably using=
RPC,
> > > > and
> > > > the Verizon card ended up being the cause. Luckily, he noticed that=
he
> > > > got
> > > > the expected results with RPC when connected over his home network.
>
> > > > In that case, it seemed like what was happening was that we couldn'=
t get
> > > > a
> > > > fast enough, consistently reliable connection. In troubleshooting w=
ith
> > > > Verizon, I discovered that the thing in their software that checks =
for
> > > > updates always reports that your software is current. I was actuall=
y a
> > > > number of versions behind.
>
> > > > So I would test to see if the problem is specific to the Verizon
> > > > connection.
> > > > Then if it is, you can either try dealing with their tech support, =
or go
> > > > to
> > > > the super secret Verizon software download site and see if you can
> > > > download
> > > > the current version
http://vzam.net/. I had major installation troub=
le
> > > > until I realized that my old version installed more than one applic=
ation
> > > > with its single installer. I had to go into CP add/remove and unins=
tall
> > > > anything related to Verizon (2 or 3 apps), then install the new ver=
sion,
> > > > at
> > > > which point it worked.
>
> > > > After you've installed the current software, do the "activate" thin=
g
> > > > from
> > > > one of the menus - it'll update the roaming table or whatever in th=
e
> > > > card
> > > > so
> > > > you get the best connection available.
>
> > > > <barret...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:5cbc843f-9863-4375-a91a-ace613471393@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.c=
om...
> > > > On Jun 26, 8:11 pm, David Thorpe <%firstna...@techcareteam.com> wro=
te:
>
> > > > > barret...@hotmail.com wrote
> > > > > innews:e89a9c1e-7db7-4220-bd71-615946ed08b0@a70g2000hsh.googlegro=
ups.com:
>
> > > > > > Thanks Dave. The cert was already in that store, but I removed =
it
> > > > > > (in
> > > > > > the IE tools) and then went to the OWA site to get it back, and
> > > > > > chose
> > > > > > manually to install it into the store you suggested. No help.
>
> > > > > > The RPCDIAG shows Directory and Referral and Connecting and
> > > > > > connecting. Then eventually says Disconnected.
>
> > > > > <snip>
>
> > > > > Are the laptops using Basic Authentication or NTLM Authentcation?
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > David Thorpe
> > > > > Tech Care Team
>
> > > > > "In the sandwich world, bread is a given."
>
> > > > Basic it is. Every step in the SBS document was followed. There mus=
t
> > > > be some 3rd party something installed. Maybe the Verizon broadband
> > > > (cellular) software introduced a change to the standard set of XP T=
CP/
> > > > IP support or something... that's the only change I can think of.- =
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> > > Sorry, I thought I mentioned that I was connecting both laptops with
> > > "wi-fi". I am not connected with the Verizon card. I am connecting
> > > with wireless via a Linksys Linux router on DSL. The other laptop
> > > doesn't have the problem, this one does. The only difference is that
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> > I just found a bunch of these (following message) on the server. =A0I
> > would bet that the user is typing his password in properly.
>
> > The events reoccur every 10 minutes. That's the interval to which we
> > have Outlook set to do a "Send and Receive".
>
> > Maybe there is a group policy setting that is causing the password to
> > get mangled or otherwise not be accepted? Like Kerberos or digital
> > signing or something? What can I try to turn off to make this work?
>
> > Logon Failure:
>
> > =A0 Reason: Unknown user name or bad password
>
> > =A0 User Name: molson
>
> > =A0 Domain: SPSERVER
>
> > =A0 Logon Type: 8
>
> > =A0 Logon Process: Advapi
>
> > =A0 Authentication Package: Negotiate
>
> > =A0 Workstation Name: SPSERVER
>
> > =A0 Caller User Name: NETWORK SERVICE
>
> > =A0 Caller Domain: NT AUTHORITY
>
> > =A0 Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x3E4)
>
> > =A0 Caller Process ID: 4440
>
> > =A0 Transited Services: -
>
> > =A0 Source Network Address: 75.9.17.206
>
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