I am having a problem backing up my SBS 2003 SP2 server to a Netgear NV+ NAS
using NTBackup. I have NTBackup configured to save 3 copies of the .bkf file
in the \\readynas\Server Name\Backup Files folder. The backups work fine
until I have 3 backup files in the Backup Files folder and the 4th backup
file has to overwrite the oldest file. At that time the backup will fail with
a Event ID: 5634. Eventually the oldest backup file is deleted, but NTbackup
has already aborted by then. A sample failed backup log appears at the bottom
of this post.

After doing some additional testing, I have confirmed that the my problem
with oldest backup deletion by NTbackup is the amount of time required to
delete a 82GB backup file from the NAS. Deleting one of these files from my
server can take 2-3 minutes or longer. I think that due to this delay,
NTbackup is aborting before the oldest backup is deleted. If the backup file
size is smaller (42Gb for example), the oldest backup file is successfully
deleted and the new backup completes successfully.

How can I resolve this problem? Do I need to modify my Small Business Backup
Script.bks (file contents below) file somehow? Any suggestions are
appreciated.

Small Business Backup Script.bks contents:
SystemState
C:\
D:\
JET BSERVER\Microsoft Information Store\First Storage Group\

Sample failed backup log:
Backup Runner started.
Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows
Small Business Server\Backup\Small Business Backup Script.bks" /d "SBS Backup
created on 6/8/2008 at 7:00 PM" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j
"Small Business Server Backup Job" /l:s /f "\\readynas\Backup\Server
Name\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf" /UM
NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup User\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data\backup09.log
=====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG FILE>=====================
Backup Status
Operation: Backup
Active backup destination: File
Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 6/8/2008 at 7:00
PM"

Error: The device reported an error on a request to write data to media.
Error reported: Unknown error.
There may be a hardware or media problem.
Please check the system event log for relevant failures.
The operation was ended.
Backup completed on 6/8/2008 at 7:02 PM.
Directories: 0
Files: 0
Bytes: 0
Time: 1 second

Error: C: is not a valid drive, or you do not have access.

The operation was ended.

RE: SBS2003 NTbackup overwrite/delete problem by v-gzwang

v-gzwang
Fri Jun 27 03:52:05 PDT 2008

Hello Customer,

Thank you for your post.
My name is Gary Wang, and it is my pleasure to work with you on this issue!
Please allow me to confirm that my understandings are correct. As I
understand it, the issue is:

Your backup failed with event ID 5634 and the following error in the backup
log:

Backup Status
Operation: Backup
Active backup destination: File
Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 6/8/2008 at 7:00
PM"

Error: The device reported an error on a request to write data to media.
Error reported: Unknown error.
There may be a hardware or media problem.
Please check the system event log for relevant failures.
The operation was ended.
Backup completed on 6/8/2008 at 7:02 PM.
Directories: 0
Files: 0
Bytes: 0
Time: 1 second

Error: C: is not a valid drive, or you do not have access.

The operation was ended.

If I have misunderstood your concerns please feel free to let me know.

Suggestion :
==============
According to your description, your backup configuration should be OK. And
I am agree with your opinion that it is due to the hard drive delete action
performance or network performance limitation of the NAS device. I would
like to suggest that you contact the NAS device's manufacturer to ask them
if there are any option could be set to reduce the time of delete files.

Also, I think we can use the following methods as workaround:

1. Please try to backup the C: and D: partitions separately but not
together to test this issue. By this way, we can reduce the backup file's
size which may can help to resolve your problem.

2. Please try to backup the SBS to SBS local hard disk or shared folder on
workstation.

3. Notice that SBS backup will always perform full backup which may cost
more space, I would recommend that we may can use the ntbackup instead of
SBS backup to perform scheduled differential/Incremental backup as a
workaround for your specific scenario.

I hope these steps will give you some help.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Gary Wang(MSFT)
Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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NAS
| using NTBackup. I have NTBackup configured to save 3 copies of the .bkf
file
| in the \\readynas\Server Name\Backup Files folder. The backups work fine
| until I have 3 backup files in the Backup Files folder and the 4th backup
| file has to overwrite the oldest file. At that time the backup will fail
with
| a Event ID: 5634. Eventually the oldest backup file is deleted, but
NTbackup
| has already aborted by then. A sample failed backup log appears at the
bottom
| of this post.
|
| After doing some additional testing, I have confirmed that the my problem
| with oldest backup deletion by NTbackup is the amount of time required to
| delete a 82GB backup file from the NAS. Deleting one of these files from
my
| server can take 2-3 minutes or longer. I think that due to this delay,
| NTbackup is aborting before the oldest backup is deleted. If the backup
file
| size is smaller (42Gb for example), the oldest backup file is
successfully
| deleted and the new backup completes successfully.
|
| How can I resolve this problem? Do I need to modify my Small Business
Backup
| Script.bks (file contents below) file somehow? Any suggestions are
| appreciated.
|
| Small Business Backup Script.bks contents:
| SystemState
| C:\
| D:\
| JET BSERVER\Microsoft Information Store\First Storage Group\
|
| Sample failed backup log:
| Backup Runner started.
| Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Windows
| Small Business Server\Backup\Small Business Backup Script.bks" /d "SBS
Backup
| created on 6/8/2008 at 7:00 PM" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j
| "Small Business Server Backup Job" /l:s /f "\\readynas\Backup\Server
| Name\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf" /UM
| NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup User\Local
| Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data\backup09.log
| =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG FILE>=====================
| Backup Status
| Operation: Backup
| Active backup destination: File
| Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 6/8/2008 at
7:00
| PM"
|
| Error: The device reported an error on a request to write data to media.
| Error reported: Unknown error.
| There may be a hardware or media problem.
| Please check the system event log for relevant failures.
| The operation was ended.
| Backup completed on 6/8/2008 at 7:02 PM.
| Directories: 0
| Files: 0
| Bytes: 0
| Time: 1 second
|
| Error: C: is not a valid drive, or you do not have access.
|
| The operation was ended.
|


RE: SBS2003 NTbackup overwrite/delete problem by bctf1

bctf1
Mon Jun 30 08:17:03 PDT 2008

Thank you Gary for your reply. I would appreciate clarification of your
suggestion.

My understanding is that SBS backup creates a single .bkf file that could be
used to completely restore (bare metal restore) my SBS server in the event of
a catastrophic failure by simply re-installing Windows and then using the SBS
Restore function using my .bkf file.

If I start using NTbackup with differential or incremental backups as you
indicated in option 3, would the bare metal restore process be the same as if
I had used SBS backup? Would I be able to completely restore my server (AD,
Exchange settings and information store etc) by using this option? Would
there be any other disadvantages or differences to using NTbackup instad of
SBS backup if I had to do a full server restore?

"Guozhen Wang[MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello Customer,
>
> Thank you for your post.
> My name is Gary Wang, and it is my pleasure to work with you on this issue!
> Please allow me to confirm that my understandings are correct. As I
> understand it, the issue is:
>
> Your backup failed with event ID 5634 and the following error in the backup
> log:
>
> Backup Status
> Operation: Backup
> Active backup destination: File
> Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 6/8/2008 at 7:00
> PM"
>
> Error: The device reported an error on a request to write data to media.
> Error reported: Unknown error.
> There may be a hardware or media problem.
> Please check the system event log for relevant failures.
> The operation was ended.
> Backup completed on 6/8/2008 at 7:02 PM.
> Directories: 0
> Files: 0
> Bytes: 0
> Time: 1 second
>
> Error: C: is not a valid drive, or you do not have access.
>
> The operation was ended.
>
> If I have misunderstood your concerns please feel free to let me know.
>
> Suggestion :
> ==============
> According to your description, your backup configuration should be OK. And
> I am agree with your opinion that it is due to the hard drive delete action
> performance or network performance limitation of the NAS device. I would
> like to suggest that you contact the NAS device's manufacturer to ask them
> if there are any option could be set to reduce the time of delete files.
>
> Also, I think we can use the following methods as workaround:
>
> 1. Please try to backup the C: and D: partitions separately but not
> together to test this issue. By this way, we can reduce the backup file's
> size which may can help to resolve your problem.
>
> 2. Please try to backup the SBS to SBS local hard disk or shared folder on
> workstation.
>
> 3. Notice that SBS backup will always perform full backup which may cost
> more space, I would recommend that we may can use the ntbackup instead of
> SBS backup to perform scheduled differential/Incremental backup as a
> workaround for your specific scenario.
>
> I hope these steps will give you some help.
>
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gary Wang(MSFT)
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> =====================================================
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
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> | I am having a problem backing up my SBS 2003 SP2 server to a Netgear NV+
> NAS
> | using NTBackup. I have NTBackup configured to save 3 copies of the .bkf
> file
> | in the \\readynas\Server Name\Backup Files folder. The backups work fine
> | until I have 3 backup files in the Backup Files folder and the 4th backup
> | file has to overwrite the oldest file. At that time the backup will fail
> with
> | a Event ID: 5634. Eventually the oldest backup file is deleted, but
> NTbackup
> | has already aborted by then. A sample failed backup log appears at the
> bottom
> | of this post.
> |
> | After doing some additional testing, I have confirmed that the my problem
> | with oldest backup deletion by NTbackup is the amount of time required to
> | delete a 82GB backup file from the NAS. Deleting one of these files from
> my
> | server can take 2-3 minutes or longer. I think that due to this delay,
> | NTbackup is aborting before the oldest backup is deleted. If the backup
> file
> | size is smaller (42Gb for example), the oldest backup file is
> successfully
> | deleted and the new backup completes successfully.
> |
> | How can I resolve this problem? Do I need to modify my Small Business
> Backup
> | Script.bks (file contents below) file somehow? Any suggestions are
> | appreciated.
> |
> | Small Business Backup Script.bks contents:
> | SystemState
> | C:\
> | D:\
> | JET BSERVER\Microsoft Information Store\First Storage Group\
> |
> | Sample failed backup log:
> | Backup Runner started.
> | Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Windows
> | Small Business Server\Backup\Small Business Backup Script.bks" /d "SBS
> Backup
> | created on 6/8/2008 at 7:00 PM" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j
> | "Small Business Server Backup Job" /l:s /f "\\readynas\Backup\Server
> | Name\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf" /UM
> | NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup User\Local
> | Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data\backup09.log
> | =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG FILE>=====================
> | Backup Status
> | Operation: Backup
> | Active backup destination: File
> | Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 6/8/2008 at
> 7:00
> | PM"
> |
> | Error: The device reported an error on a request to write data to media.
> | Error reported: Unknown error.
> | There may be a hardware or media problem.
> | Please check the system event log for relevant failures.
> | The operation was ended.
> | Backup completed on 6/8/2008 at 7:02 PM.
> | Directories: 0
> | Files: 0
> | Bytes: 0
> | Time: 1 second
> |
> | Error: C: is not a valid drive, or you do not have access.
> |
> | The operation was ended.
> |
>
>

RE: SBS2003 NTbackup overwrite/delete problem by bctf1

bctf1
Mon Jun 30 08:20:00 PDT 2008

Thank you Gary for your reply. I would appreciate clarification of your
suggestion.

My understanding is that SBS backup creates a single .bkf file that could be
used to completely restore (bare metal restore) my SBS server in the event of
a catastrophic failure by simply re-installing Windows and then using the SBS
Restore function using my .bkf file.

If I start using NTbackup with differential or incremental backups as you
indicated in option 3, would the bare metal restore process be the same as if
I had used SBS backup? Would I be able to completely restore my server (AD,
Exchange settings and information store etc) by using this option? Would
there be any other disadvantages or differences to using NTbackup instad of
SBS backup if I had to do a full server restore?

"Guozhen Wang[MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello Customer,
>
> Thank you for your post.
> My name is Gary Wang, and it is my pleasure to work with you on this issue!
> Please allow me to confirm that my understandings are correct. As I
> understand it, the issue is:
>
> Your backup failed with event ID 5634 and the following error in the backup
> log:
>
> Backup Status
> Operation: Backup
> Active backup destination: File
> Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 6/8/2008 at 7:00
> PM"
>
> Error: The device reported an error on a request to write data to media.
> Error reported: Unknown error.
> There may be a hardware or media problem.
> Please check the system event log for relevant failures.
> The operation was ended.
> Backup completed on 6/8/2008 at 7:02 PM.
> Directories: 0
> Files: 0
> Bytes: 0
> Time: 1 second
>
> Error: C: is not a valid drive, or you do not have access.
>
> The operation was ended.
>
> If I have misunderstood your concerns please feel free to let me know.
>
> Suggestion :
> ==============
> According to your description, your backup configuration should be OK. And
> I am agree with your opinion that it is due to the hard drive delete action
> performance or network performance limitation of the NAS device. I would
> like to suggest that you contact the NAS device's manufacturer to ask them
> if there are any option could be set to reduce the time of delete files.
>
> Also, I think we can use the following methods as workaround:
>
> 1. Please try to backup the C: and D: partitions separately but not
> together to test this issue. By this way, we can reduce the backup file's
> size which may can help to resolve your problem.
>
> 2. Please try to backup the SBS to SBS local hard disk or shared folder on
> workstation.
>
> 3. Notice that SBS backup will always perform full backup which may cost
> more space, I would recommend that we may can use the ntbackup instead of
> SBS backup to perform scheduled differential/Incremental backup as a
> workaround for your specific scenario.
>
> I hope these steps will give you some help.
>
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gary Wang(MSFT)
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> =====================================================
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
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>
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> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> =====================================================
>
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>
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> |
> | I am having a problem backing up my SBS 2003 SP2 server to a Netgear NV+
> NAS
> | using NTBackup. I have NTBackup configured to save 3 copies of the .bkf
> file
> | in the \\readynas\Server Name\Backup Files folder. The backups work fine
> | until I have 3 backup files in the Backup Files folder and the 4th backup
> | file has to overwrite the oldest file. At that time the backup will fail
> with
> | a Event ID: 5634. Eventually the oldest backup file is deleted, but
> NTbackup
> | has already aborted by then. A sample failed backup log appears at the
> bottom
> | of this post.
> |
> | After doing some additional testing, I have confirmed that the my problem
> | with oldest backup deletion by NTbackup is the amount of time required to
> | delete a 82GB backup file from the NAS. Deleting one of these files from
> my
> | server can take 2-3 minutes or longer. I think that due to this delay,
> | NTbackup is aborting before the oldest backup is deleted. If the backup
> file
> | size is smaller (42Gb for example), the oldest backup file is
> successfully
> | deleted and the new backup completes successfully.
> |
> | How can I resolve this problem? Do I need to modify my Small Business
> Backup
> | Script.bks (file contents below) file somehow? Any suggestions are
> | appreciated.
> |
> | Small Business Backup Script.bks contents:
> | SystemState
> | C:\
> | D:\
> | JET BSERVER\Microsoft Information Store\First Storage Group\
> |
> | Sample failed backup log:
> | Backup Runner started.
> | Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Windows
> | Small Business Server\Backup\Small Business Backup Script.bks" /d "SBS
> Backup
> | created on 6/8/2008 at 7:00 PM" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j
> | "Small Business Server Backup Job" /l:s /f "\\readynas\Backup\Server
> | Name\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf" /UM
> | NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup User\Local
> | Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data\backup09.log
> | =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG FILE>=====================
> | Backup Status
> | Operation: Backup
> | Active backup destination: File
> | Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 6/8/2008 at
> 7:00
> | PM"
> |
> | Error: The device reported an error on a request to write data to media.
> | Error reported: Unknown error.
> | There may be a hardware or media problem.
> | Please check the system event log for relevant failures.
> | The operation was ended.
> | Backup completed on 6/8/2008 at 7:02 PM.
> | Directories: 0
> | Files: 0
> | Bytes: 0
> | Time: 1 second
> |
> | Error: C: is not a valid drive, or you do not have access.
> |
> | The operation was ended.
> |
>
>

RE: SBS2003 NTbackup overwrite/delete problem by v-gzwang

v-gzwang
Tue Jul 01 03:30:55 PDT 2008

Hi Tommy,

Thanks for your reply.

It is sure that you can perform full restore from incremental backup. Also
please notice restore from an incremental backup is a little different
with restore from full backup. To restore data from an incremental backup,
you must have the most recent full backup and each subsequent incremental
backup set available. Then during the restore process, you should check the
checkbox in front of those backup files.

The advantage is that it will save the time which backup process cost and
the disk space. Because incremental backup only backup those files which
had been changed but not the full data.

About the disadvantage comparing with SBS backup, which I can image, is
that you need to plan the backup strategy as you need and configure backup
schedule manually.

I would like to suggest that you perform a incremental backup and restore
on some test file as a test at first.

If there are anything unclear, please feel free to let me know.

Have a nice day :-)

Best regards,

Gary Wang(MSFT)
Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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| Subject: RE: SBS2003 NTbackup overwrite/delete problem
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| Thank you Gary for your reply. I would appreciate clarification of your
| suggestion.
|
| My understanding is that SBS backup creates a single .bkf file that could
be
| used to completely restore (bare metal restore) my SBS server in the
event of
| a catastrophic failure by simply re-installing Windows and then using the
SBS
| Restore function using my .bkf file.
|
| If I start using NTbackup with differential or incremental backups as you
| indicated in option 3, would the bare metal restore process be the same
as if
| I had used SBS backup? Would I be able to completely restore my server
(AD,
| Exchange settings and information store etc) by using this option? Would
| there be any other disadvantages or differences to using NTbackup instad
of
| SBS backup if I had to do a full server restore?
|
| "Guozhen Wang[MSFT]" wrote:
|
| > Hello Customer,
| >
| > Thank you for your post.
| > My name is Gary Wang, and it is my pleasure to work with you on this
issue!
| > Please allow me to confirm that my understandings are correct. As I
| > understand it, the issue is:
| >
| > Your backup failed with event ID 5634 and the following error in the
backup
| > log:
| >
| > Backup Status
| > Operation: Backup
| > Active backup destination: File
| > Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 6/8/2008 at
7:00
| > PM"
| >
| > Error: The device reported an error on a request to write data to media.
| > Error reported: Unknown error.
| > There may be a hardware or media problem.
| > Please check the system event log for relevant failures.
| > The operation was ended.
| > Backup completed on 6/8/2008 at 7:02 PM.
| > Directories: 0
| > Files: 0
| > Bytes: 0
| > Time: 1 second
| >
| > Error: C: is not a valid drive, or you do not have access.
| >
| > The operation was ended.
| >
| > If I have misunderstood your concerns please feel free to let me know.
| >
| > Suggestion :
| > ==============
| > According to your description, your backup configuration should be OK.
And
| > I am agree with your opinion that it is due to the hard drive delete
action
| > performance or network performance limitation of the NAS device. I
would
| > like to suggest that you contact the NAS device's manufacturer to ask
them
| > if there are any option could be set to reduce the time of delete
files.
| >
| > Also, I think we can use the following methods as workaround:
| >
| > 1. Please try to backup the C: and D: partitions separately but not
| > together to test this issue. By this way, we can reduce the backup
file's
| > size which may can help to resolve your problem.
| >
| > 2. Please try to backup the SBS to SBS local hard disk or shared folder
on
| > workstation.
| >
| > 3. Notice that SBS backup will always perform full backup which may
cost
| > more space, I would recommend that we may can use the ntbackup instead
of
| > SBS backup to perform scheduled differential/Incremental backup as a
| > workaround for your specific scenario.
| >
| > I hope these steps will give you some help.
| >
| > Thanks and have a nice day!
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Gary Wang(MSFT)
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
| > =====================================================
| > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
| > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
corresponding
| > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
manner.
| > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| >
| > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
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| > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
are
| > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
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| > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
| > issue.
| >
| > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
| > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
doing
| > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >
| > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
Please
| > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >
| > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > =====================================================
| >
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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| > | Subject: SBS2003 NTbackup overwrite/delete problem
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| > | I am having a problem backing up my SBS 2003 SP2 server to a Netgear
NV+
| > NAS
| > | using NTBackup. I have NTBackup configured to save 3 copies of the
.bkf
| > file
| > | in the \\readynas\Server Name\Backup Files folder. The backups work
fine
| > | until I have 3 backup files in the Backup Files folder and the 4th
backup
| > | file has to overwrite the oldest file. At that time the backup will
fail
| > with
| > | a Event ID: 5634. Eventually the oldest backup file is deleted, but
| > NTbackup
| > | has already aborted by then. A sample failed backup log appears at
the
| > bottom
| > | of this post.
| > |
| > | After doing some additional testing, I have confirmed that the my
problem
| > | with oldest backup deletion by NTbackup is the amount of time
required to
| > | delete a 82GB backup file from the NAS. Deleting one of these files
from
| > my
| > | server can take 2-3 minutes or longer. I think that due to this
delay,
| > | NTbackup is aborting before the oldest backup is deleted. If the
backup
| > file
| > | size is smaller (42Gb for example), the oldest backup file is
| > successfully
| > | deleted and the new backup completes successfully.
| > |
| > | How can I resolve this problem? Do I need to modify my Small Business
| > Backup
| > | Script.bks (file contents below) file somehow? Any suggestions are
| > | appreciated.
| > |
| > | Small Business Backup Script.bks contents:
| > | SystemState
| > | C:\
| > | D:\
| > | JET BSERVER\Microsoft Information Store\First Storage Group\
| > |
| > | Sample failed backup log:
| > | Backup Runner started.
| > | Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Program Files\Microsoft
| > Windows
| > | Small Business Server\Backup\Small Business Backup Script.bks" /d
"SBS
| > Backup
| > | created on 6/8/2008 at 7:00 PM" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hc:off /m normal
/j
| > | "Small Business Server Backup Job" /l:s /f "\\readynas\Backup\Server
| > | Name\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf" /UM
| > | NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup User\Local
| > | Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
NT\NTBackup\data\backup09.log
| > | =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG FILE>=====================
| > | Backup Status
| > | Operation: Backup
| > | Active backup destination: File
| > | Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 6/8/2008
at
| > 7:00
| > | PM"
| > |
| > | Error: The device reported an error on a request to write data to
media.
| > | Error reported: Unknown error.
| > | There may be a hardware or media problem.
| > | Please check the system event log for relevant failures.
| > | The operation was ended.
| > | Backup completed on 6/8/2008 at 7:02 PM.
| > | Directories: 0
| > | Files: 0
| > | Bytes: 0
| > | Time: 1 second
| > |
| > | Error: C: is not a valid drive, or you do not have access.
| > |
| > | The operation was ended.
| > |
| >
| >
|