I need to know if SBS2003 (sp2) can have two firewall policies.
This is why.
We have a software developer and i want to create another firewall policy so
he can turn off the firewall when he has to work with special machines.
I know that we can try to configure the exceptions, but alot of vendor are
asking us to disable the firewall when connecting to their machines.
If we can, is there documentation on how to apply it just to a user or group.

Thanks for your help in this matter.

CP

Re: Two Firewall Policies by Lanwench

Lanwench
Fri Mar 28 07:08:43 PDT 2008

nc <nc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I need to know if SBS2003 (sp2) can have two firewall policies.
> This is why.
> We have a software developer and i want to create another firewall
> policy so he can turn off the firewall when he has to work with
> special machines.
> I know that we can try to configure the exceptions, but alot of
> vendor are asking us to disable the firewall when connecting to their
> machines.
> If we can, is there documentation on how to apply it just to a user
> or group.
>
> Thanks for your help in this matter.
>
> CP

Turning off the firewall for a vendor is a request I would not accomodate
unless I were troubleshooting something. There is really nothing that can't
be set up with exceptions in group policy.

Since the group policy option for firewall config is per computer, not per
user, the best option for your software developer is for him to stop the
underlying windows service for any testing he needs to do. And all his
testing should be done on his own lab / test computers, not on your domain
member computers.



Re: Two Firewall Policies by Russ

Russ
Fri Mar 28 13:45:54 PDT 2008

A Lot of Vendors?

Well what I do for the Vendors that have say a PC that is not a member of
the domain.
is Change the RDC Listening Port from something other than 3389 and open up
that port only when they need it.
If you don't want to change the RPC listen port you can use TightVNC

However I do only open the port when they need access for troubleshooting
like LAN said.
(And this PC is not a member of the Domain of course)

If they claim they need 24/7 access to that PC, I'd question WHY? Big time.

Russ

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> nc <nc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> I need to know if SBS2003 (sp2) can have two firewall policies.
>> This is why.
>> We have a software developer and i want to create another firewall
>> policy so he can turn off the firewall when he has to work with
>> special machines.
>> I know that we can try to configure the exceptions, but alot of
>> vendor are asking us to disable the firewall when connecting to their
>> machines.
>> If we can, is there documentation on how to apply it just to a user
>> or group.
>>
>> Thanks for your help in this matter.
>>
>> CP
>
> Turning off the firewall for a vendor is a request I would not accomodate
> unless I were troubleshooting something. There is really nothing that
> can't be set up with exceptions in group policy.
>
> Since the group policy option for firewall config is per computer, not per
> user, the best option for your software developer is for him to stop the
> underlying windows service for any testing he needs to do. And all his
> testing should be done on his own lab / test computers, not on your domain
> member computers.
>



RE: Two Firewall Policies by v-terliu

v-terliu
Sun Mar 30 21:37:36 PDT 2008

Hello Customer,

Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Lanwench and Russ for the
input.

According to your description, I understand that you want to disable some
client computers windows firewall. If I have misunderstood the problem,
please don't hesitate to let me know.

Based on my research, we have 2 methods to disable SBS client computers
windows firewall:

I. Manually disable windows firewall on each client computer:

Please run command "services.msc" to open the services console on client
and right click "Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)"
service, select stop.

If the client computers only want to disable windows firewall temporary,
this method is suit for you. You can start the service when you want to
enable the windows firewall.

II. Disable client windows firewall thru group policy:

Generally, you could try to edit the GPO ''Small Business Server Windows
Firewall'' on SBS to configure the firewall on client. However, before the
operation, you need to confirm the following things first.

After you install the Windows XP SP2 in your SBS 2k3 network, you may need
to install the Update for SBS 2k3 server first, please refer to the
following article.

872769 You cannot configure Windows Firewall settings or Security Center
settings on a Windows XP Service Pack 2-based client computer that is in a
Windows Small Business Server 2003-based network
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=872769

If you want to modify the Group Policy setting that is configured when you
installed the Windows Small Business Server 2003 Update for Windows XP SP2,
install the hotfix that is described in the following Microsoft Knowledge
Base article:

842933 "The following entry in the [strings] section is too long and has
been truncated" error message when you try to modify or to view GPOs in
Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional, or Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842933

After installing the above 2 hotfixes, you can add exceptions ports or
disable windows firewall for clients firewall via GPO:

Please use the following steps to add exceptions ports for clients:

1. Start -> Administrative Tools -> Group Policy Management
2. Expand Domains -> Your Domain
3. Right click the Small Business Server Windows Firewall and click Edit
4. Computer configuration>Administrative templates>Network>Network
connections> Windows Firewall> Domain Profile;
5. Double click "Windows Firewall: Define port exceptions", select Enabled
6. Click Show button, then add the except ports in the box. Click OK twice
time.
7. Run Gpupdate /force on your XP2 client
8. Logon and logoff your client and test your issue again.

Please use the following steps to disable client XP sp2 ICF:

1. Start -> Administrative Tools -> Group Policy Management
2. Expand Domains -> Your Domain
3. Right click the Small Business Server Windows Firewall and click Edit
4. Computer configuration>Administrative templates>Network>Network
connections> Windows Firewall> Domain Profile;
5. In "Windows Firewall: Protect all network connections" should be set to
''Disable''
6. Run Gpupdate /force on your XP2 client
7. Logon and logoff your client and test your issue again.

Additional info:
HOW TO: Delegate Authority for Editing a Group Policy Object (GPO)
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=221577

Administering Group Policy with the GPMC
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/gpmc/gpmcwp.mspx

Frequently Asked Questions About the Group Policy Management Console
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/gpmc/gpmcfaq.mspx

Enterprise Management with the Group Policy Management Console
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/gpmc/default.mspx

I hope these steps will give you some help.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

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| I need to know if SBS2003 (sp2) can have two firewall policies.
| This is why.
| We have a software developer and i want to create another firewall policy
so
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| I know that we can try to configure the exceptions, but alot of vendor
are
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| If we can, is there documentation on how to apply it just to a user or
group.
|
| Thanks for your help in this matter.
|
| CP
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