SBS Exchange over WAN

Hi everyone,
Our company has about has about 25 workstations including laptops and they
are all part of the domain controlled by a Dell PE 1900 with 2 Dual core Xeon
5110 CPU's @ 1.6 GHz and 4GB of RAM running SBS 2003 sp2 Standard. This
server is running sharepoint services, WSUS 3 Sp1, BES 4.2, Symantec 10.2,
and Yosimite back up for an intergraded RD1000 cartridge backup drive. We
have Verizon DSL 7 mbps down and 768 up and I am thinking of getting a bonded
T1 service because we use a web based medical billing and database through
AdvancedMD.com and the DSL seems to bog out more and more. I have run across
a few issues with allocated memory due to sqlserver and the exchange service
instance. I had read and applied the command from KB283037) article to
allocate less memory to the service instance and have had somewhat better
results and uptime. I aslo changed the allocated memory for the sql service.
With all that we are having a second office location and these workers will
need to access the exchange server over WAN. I know I could configure the
outlook clients to access the current SBS server of http but I was wonder if
there was an easier solution then that or having to configure them to do it
with VPN. There was a option when setting up the exchange server is SBS to
retrieve mail from another server. I am trying to figure out what OS to use
at this other location and if that is an option to retrieve the mail from
here to the server at the other location. Does SBS 2003 support being
accessed this way if I was to install SBS 2003 on the server at the new
location? Would I need to move the mail boxes to another windows server OS?
Thank you so much!

Merv
Wed Jun 25 16:17:05 PDT 2008

Hi Brad,

Let's start by asking...

Is Exchange the only application that the remote office needs to access on
the (main office) SBS server network? (no data files need to be accessed on
the main office network).

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Brad Scott" <Brad Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:112DCCE3-DE8C-4A52-B434-74EAB68FD7C4@microsoft.com...
> Hi everyone,
> Our company has about has about 25 workstations including laptops and they
> are all part of the domain controlled by a Dell PE 1900 with 2 Dual core
> Xeon
> 5110 CPU's @ 1.6 GHz and 4GB of RAM running SBS 2003 sp2 Standard. This
> server is running sharepoint services, WSUS 3 Sp1, BES 4.2, Symantec 10.2,
> and Yosimite back up for an intergraded RD1000 cartridge backup drive. We
> have Verizon DSL 7 mbps down and 768 up and I am thinking of getting a
> bonded
> T1 service because we use a web based medical billing and database through
> AdvancedMD.com and the DSL seems to bog out more and more. I have run
> across
> a few issues with allocated memory due to sqlserver and the exchange
> service
> instance. I had read and applied the command from KB283037) article to
> allocate less memory to the service instance and have had somewhat better
> results and uptime. I aslo changed the allocated memory for the sql
> service.
> With all that we are having a second office location and these workers
> will
> need to access the exchange server over WAN. I know I could configure the
> outlook clients to access the current SBS server of http but I was wonder
> if
> there was an easier solution then that or having to configure them to do
> it
> with VPN. There was a option when setting up the exchange server is SBS
> to
> retrieve mail from another server. I am trying to figure out what OS to
> use
> at this other location and if that is an option to retrieve the mail from
> here to the server at the other location. Does SBS 2003 support being
> accessed this way if I was to install SBS 2003 on the server at the new
> location? Would I need to move the mail boxes to another windows server
> OS?
> Thank you so much!

BradScott
Wed Jun 25 16:54:01 PDT 2008

Hi Merv,
Yes, but the option to sync the emloyees redirected documents folders would
be nice. Most of the files are small they would need to access, Word, Excel
and such. No large images or video data. I'm not too sure how necessary
that will be because our employees dont swap desks too often. I really would
just like the same enviroment at the other office just minus the second
Exchange server that would be created if I was to use SBS at the second
location. Unless I could configure it to access the server we allready have.
My problem too is that our server continues to crash. We use SBS standard
and I dont know if premium with SQL 05 work group would fix this issue. I
would like the server now running SBS to access the Exchange server on the
new server at the new location and work in the same way it does now. Thank
you very much for your reply!

-Brad

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Brad,
>
> Let's start by asking...
>
> Is Exchange the only application that the remote office needs to access on
> the (main office) SBS server network? (no data files need to be accessed on
> the main office network).
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
>
> "Brad Scott" <Brad Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:112DCCE3-DE8C-4A52-B434-74EAB68FD7C4@microsoft.com...
> > Hi everyone,
> > Our company has about has about 25 workstations including laptops and they
> > are all part of the domain controlled by a Dell PE 1900 with 2 Dual core
> > Xeon
> > 5110 CPU's @ 1.6 GHz and 4GB of RAM running SBS 2003 sp2 Standard. This
> > server is running sharepoint services, WSUS 3 Sp1, BES 4.2, Symantec 10.2,
> > and Yosimite back up for an intergraded RD1000 cartridge backup drive. We
> > have Verizon DSL 7 mbps down and 768 up and I am thinking of getting a
> > bonded
> > T1 service because we use a web based medical billing and database through
> > AdvancedMD.com and the DSL seems to bog out more and more. I have run
> > across
> > a few issues with allocated memory due to sqlserver and the exchange
> > service
> > instance. I had read and applied the command from KB283037) article to
> > allocate less memory to the service instance and have had somewhat better
> > results and uptime. I aslo changed the allocated memory for the sql
> > service.
> > With all that we are having a second office location and these workers
> > will
> > need to access the exchange server over WAN. I know I could configure the
> > outlook clients to access the current SBS server of http but I was wonder
> > if
> > there was an easier solution then that or having to configure them to do
> > it
> > with VPN. There was a option when setting up the exchange server is SBS
> > to
> > retrieve mail from another server. I am trying to figure out what OS to
> > use
> > at this other location and if that is an option to retrieve the mail from
> > here to the server at the other location. Does SBS 2003 support being
> > accessed this way if I was to install SBS 2003 on the server at the new
> > location? Would I need to move the mail boxes to another windows server
> > OS?
> > Thank you so much!
>
>
>

Larry
Wed Jun 25 18:12:18 PDT 2008

Hi Brad:

Servers crashing is not a fun thing, and I think you/we need to resolve
that. The rest is easy.

Are there any symptoms? Any errors in your event logs? Any spontaneous
restarts? Have you downloaded and run the SBS Best Practices Advisor?

www.sbsbpa.com

If you get spontaneous restarts, you may have an errant driver issue that
you could see if you turned off automatically restart. Look in:

start -> right click my computer ->properties ->advanced settings -> startup
and recovery settings and un tick auto restart.

Please let us know the symptoms.

PS: There have been issues with Symantec 10, but I don't use it, so I don't
keep up. Search this group for Symantec and author Leythos.

--
Larry

"Brad Scott" <BradScott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B27BE39D-5D48-43F7-BD5B-9CC093DD42D2@microsoft.com...
> Hi Merv,
> Yes, but the option to sync the emloyees redirected documents folders
> would
> be nice. Most of the files are small they would need to access, Word,
> Excel
> and such. No large images or video data. I'm not too sure how necessary
> that will be because our employees dont swap desks too often. I really
> would
> just like the same enviroment at the other office just minus the second
> Exchange server that would be created if I was to use SBS at the second
> location. Unless I could configure it to access the server we allready
> have.
> My problem too is that our server continues to crash. We use SBS standard
> and I dont know if premium with SQL 05 work group would fix this issue. I
> would like the server now running SBS to access the Exchange server on the
> new server at the new location and work in the same way it does now.
> Thank
> you very much for your reply!
>
> -Brad
>
> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi Brad,
>>
>> Let's start by asking...
>>
>> Is Exchange the only application that the remote office needs to access
>> on
>> the (main office) SBS server network? (no data files need to be accessed
>> on
>> the main office network).
>>
>> --
>> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
>> ============================
>>
>> "Brad Scott" <Brad Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:112DCCE3-DE8C-4A52-B434-74EAB68FD7C4@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi everyone,
>> > Our company has about has about 25 workstations including laptops and
>> > they
>> > are all part of the domain controlled by a Dell PE 1900 with 2 Dual
>> > core
>> > Xeon
>> > 5110 CPU's @ 1.6 GHz and 4GB of RAM running SBS 2003 sp2 Standard.
>> > This
>> > server is running sharepoint services, WSUS 3 Sp1, BES 4.2, Symantec
>> > 10.2,
>> > and Yosimite back up for an intergraded RD1000 cartridge backup drive.
>> > We
>> > have Verizon DSL 7 mbps down and 768 up and I am thinking of getting a
>> > bonded
>> > T1 service because we use a web based medical billing and database
>> > through
>> > AdvancedMD.com and the DSL seems to bog out more and more. I have run
>> > across
>> > a few issues with allocated memory due to sqlserver and the exchange
>> > service
>> > instance. I had read and applied the command from KB283037) article to
>> > allocate less memory to the service instance and have had somewhat
>> > better
>> > results and uptime. I aslo changed the allocated memory for the sql
>> > service.
>> > With all that we are having a second office location and these workers
>> > will
>> > need to access the exchange server over WAN. I know I could configure
>> > the
>> > outlook clients to access the current SBS server of http but I was
>> > wonder
>> > if
>> > there was an easier solution then that or having to configure them to
>> > do
>> > it
>> > with VPN. There was a option when setting up the exchange server is
>> > SBS
>> > to
>> > retrieve mail from another server. I am trying to figure out what OS
>> > to
>> > use
>> > at this other location and if that is an option to retrieve the mail
>> > from
>> > here to the server at the other location. Does SBS 2003 support being
>> > accessed this way if I was to install SBS 2003 on the server at the new
>> > location? Would I need to move the mail boxes to another windows server
>> > OS?
>> > Thank you so much!
>>
>>
>>

Merv
Wed Jun 25 18:18:13 PDT 2008

You need to find out what's making the current SBS server crash (may be
fodder for a new post).

I assume Outlook Web Access would not satisfy the email requirements at the
remote office?. If so, and you have a stable (reliable) Internet connection
at both the remote office and the main office, you may want to consider
putting a Terminal Server in the main office next to the SBS server. Then
you're remote users could access the TS via RWW. You might have some issues
to resolve (such as remote printing, cost of TS licenses, cost of Windows
2003 server license, hardware cost, maybe cost of MS Office apps if needed
while using the TS, etc.), but it would give the remote users complete
access to the SBS server just as if they were sitting in the main office,
and this would consume very little Internet bandwidth compared to other
solutions.

Of course, if you need a server at the remote office for file
server/filestorage or to run Line of Business (LOB) apps, there may be other
issues to consider.

Bottom line... we need a clearer picture of what you need in the remote
office and what interaction they need with the main office.

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================


"Brad Scott" <BradScott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B27BE39D-5D48-43F7-BD5B-9CC093DD42D2@microsoft.com...
> Hi Merv,
> Yes, but the option to sync the emloyees redirected documents folders
> would
> be nice. Most of the files are small they would need to access, Word,
> Excel
> and such. No large images or video data. I'm not too sure how necessary
> that will be because our employees dont swap desks too often. I really
> would
> just like the same enviroment at the other office just minus the second
> Exchange server that would be created if I was to use SBS at the second
> location. Unless I could configure it to access the server we allready
> have.
> My problem too is that our server continues to crash. We use SBS standard
> and I dont know if premium with SQL 05 work group would fix this issue. I
> would like the server now running SBS to access the Exchange server on the
> new server at the new location and work in the same way it does now.
> Thank
> you very much for your reply!
>
> -Brad
>
> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi Brad,
>>
>> Let's start by asking...
>>
>> Is Exchange the only application that the remote office needs to access
>> on
>> the (main office) SBS server network? (no data files need to be accessed
>> on
>> the main office network).
>>
>> --
>> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
>> ============================
>>
>> "Brad Scott" <Brad Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:112DCCE3-DE8C-4A52-B434-74EAB68FD7C4@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi everyone,
>> > Our company has about has about 25 workstations including laptops and
>> > they
>> > are all part of the domain controlled by a Dell PE 1900 with 2 Dual
>> > core
>> > Xeon
>> > 5110 CPU's @ 1.6 GHz and 4GB of RAM running SBS 2003 sp2 Standard.
>> > This
>> > server is running sharepoint services, WSUS 3 Sp1, BES 4.2, Symantec
>> > 10.2,
>> > and Yosimite back up for an intergraded RD1000 cartridge backup drive.
>> > We
>> > have Verizon DSL 7 mbps down and 768 up and I am thinking of getting a
>> > bonded
>> > T1 service because we use a web based medical billing and database
>> > through
>> > AdvancedMD.com and the DSL seems to bog out more and more. I have run
>> > across
>> > a few issues with allocated memory due to sqlserver and the exchange
>> > service
>> > instance. I had read and applied the command from KB283037) article to
>> > allocate less memory to the service instance and have had somewhat
>> > better
>> > results and uptime. I aslo changed the allocated memory for the sql
>> > service.
>> > With all that we are having a second office location and these workers
>> > will
>> > need to access the exchange server over WAN. I know I could configure
>> > the
>> > outlook clients to access the current SBS server of http but I was
>> > wonder
>> > if
>> > there was an easier solution then that or having to configure them to
>> > do
>> > it
>> > with VPN. There was a option when setting up the exchange server is
>> > SBS
>> > to
>> > retrieve mail from another server. I am trying to figure out what OS
>> > to
>> > use
>> > at this other location and if that is an option to retrieve the mail
>> > from
>> > here to the server at the other location. Does SBS 2003 support being
>> > accessed this way if I was to install SBS 2003 on the server at the new
>> > location? Would I need to move the mail boxes to another windows server
>> > OS?
>> > Thank you so much!
>>
>>
>>

BradScott
Tue Jul 01 10:33:18 PDT 2008

Hi Merv,
I have monitored memery usage and what seems to be crashing it is the SQL
service and a large amount of RAM for the Exchange store. I would most
likely like to move the Exchange mail boxes to the new server and have them
access here from the remote location. Maybe Server 03 64 bit so I could use
8 gigs of RAM?

Thanks,

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> You need to find out what's making the current SBS server crash (may be
> fodder for a new post).
>
> I assume Outlook Web Access would not satisfy the email requirements at the
> remote office?. If so, and you have a stable (reliable) Internet connection
> at both the remote office and the main office, you may want to consider
> putting a Terminal Server in the main office next to the SBS server. Then
> you're remote users could access the TS via RWW. You might have some issues
> to resolve (such as remote printing, cost of TS licenses, cost of Windows
> 2003 server license, hardware cost, maybe cost of MS Office apps if needed
> while using the TS, etc.), but it would give the remote users complete
> access to the SBS server just as if they were sitting in the main office,
> and this would consume very little Internet bandwidth compared to other
> solutions.
>
> Of course, if you need a server at the remote office for file
> server/filestorage or to run Line of Business (LOB) apps, there may be other
> issues to consider.
>
> Bottom line... we need a clearer picture of what you need in the remote
> office and what interaction they need with the main office.
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
>
>
> "Brad Scott" <BradScott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B27BE39D-5D48-43F7-BD5B-9CC093DD42D2@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Merv,
> > Yes, but the option to sync the emloyees redirected documents folders
> > would
> > be nice. Most of the files are small they would need to access, Word,
> > Excel
> > and such. No large images or video data. I'm not too sure how necessary
> > that will be because our employees dont swap desks too often. I really
> > would
> > just like the same enviroment at the other office just minus the second
> > Exchange server that would be created if I was to use SBS at the second
> > location. Unless I could configure it to access the server we allready
> > have.
> > My problem too is that our server continues to crash. We use SBS standard
> > and I dont know if premium with SQL 05 work group would fix this issue. I
> > would like the server now running SBS to access the Exchange server on the
> > new server at the new location and work in the same way it does now.
> > Thank
> > you very much for your reply!
> >
> > -Brad
> >
> > "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Brad,
> >>
> >> Let's start by asking...
> >>
> >> Is Exchange the only application that the remote office needs to access
> >> on
> >> the (main office) SBS server network? (no data files need to be accessed
> >> on
> >> the main office network).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> >> ============================
> >>
> >> "Brad Scott" <Brad Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:112DCCE3-DE8C-4A52-B434-74EAB68FD7C4@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> > Our company has about has about 25 workstations including laptops and
> >> > they
> >> > are all part of the domain controlled by a Dell PE 1900 with 2 Dual
> >> > core
> >> > Xeon
> >> > 5110 CPU's @ 1.6 GHz and 4GB of RAM running SBS 2003 sp2 Standard.
> >> > This
> >> > server is running sharepoint services, WSUS 3 Sp1, BES 4.2, Symantec
> >> > 10.2,
> >> > and Yosimite back up for an intergraded RD1000 cartridge backup drive.
> >> > We
> >> > have Verizon DSL 7 mbps down and 768 up and I am thinking of getting a
> >> > bonded
> >> > T1 service because we use a web based medical billing and database
> >> > through
> >> > AdvancedMD.com and the DSL seems to bog out more and more. I have run
> >> > across
> >> > a few issues with allocated memory due to sqlserver and the exchange
> >> > service
> >> > instance. I had read and applied the command from KB283037) article to
> >> > allocate less memory to the service instance and have had somewhat
> >> > better
> >> > results and uptime. I aslo changed the allocated memory for the sql
> >> > service.
> >> > With all that we are having a second office location and these workers
> >> > will
> >> > need to access the exchange server over WAN. I know I could configure
> >> > the
> >> > outlook clients to access the current SBS server of http but I was
> >> > wonder
> >> > if
> >> > there was an easier solution then that or having to configure them to
> >> > do
> >> > it
> >> > with VPN. There was a option when setting up the exchange server is
> >> > SBS
> >> > to
> >> > retrieve mail from another server. I am trying to figure out what OS
> >> > to
> >> > use
> >> > at this other location and if that is an option to retrieve the mail
> >> > from
> >> > here to the server at the other location. Does SBS 2003 support being
> >> > accessed this way if I was to install SBS 2003 on the server at the new
> >> > location? Would I need to move the mail boxes to another windows server
> >> > OS?
> >> > Thank you so much!
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>