Connect to the internet wizard

I have had this problem at a few sites.
SBS setup with 2 NIC
ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.

Now the problem
After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
for about 2 hours or more it connects.
Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??

Regards Doug

Larry
Tue Aug 12 18:00:04 PDT 2008

Hi Doug:

Your question leads me to ask why you find it necessary to fill in any ip
info. Your SBS server should be acting as the DHCP server for your LAN and
the workstation should be getting all of its DNS and IP info from the SBS
DHCP.

If you have been using the Wizards, and if all DNS settings point to your
SBS internal nic, connections should be immediate.

If you have questions about the DNS settings, please post the unedited
results of the following command;

ipconfig /all > c:\iptest.txt

from the SBS and a typical workstation:

-Larry

"itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
>I have had this problem at a few sites.
> SBS setup with 2 NIC
> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>
> Now the problem
> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>
> Regards Doug

Russ
Tue Aug 12 18:03:08 PDT 2008

Are you putting in the correct IP DNS Gateway information?
(that your ISP gives you?)

Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz


"itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
>I have had this problem at a few sites.
> SBS setup with 2 NIC
> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>
> Now the problem
> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>
> Regards Doug

itinfo
Tue Aug 12 18:12:19 PDT 2008

Sorry if this is a missunderstanding
when we select a connection that requiures a user name and password the next
step is to fill in those fields then on the same page there are the fields to
fill in the fixed IP address of the site from the ISP and the DNS of the ISP
SBS then becomes the authenticator for the ISP

The connection that I'm talking about is to the internet. All the internal
is OK



"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Doug:
>
> Your question leads me to ask why you find it necessary to fill in any ip
> info. Your SBS server should be acting as the DHCP server for your LAN and
> the workstation should be getting all of its DNS and IP info from the SBS
> DHCP.
>
> If you have been using the Wizards, and if all DNS settings point to your
> SBS internal nic, connections should be immediate.
>
> If you have questions about the DNS settings, please post the unedited
> results of the following command;
>
> ipconfig /all > c:\iptest.txt
>
> from the SBS and a typical workstation:
>
> -Larry
>
> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
> >I have had this problem at a few sites.
> > SBS setup with 2 NIC
> > ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> > Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> > password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> > Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
> >
> > Now the problem
> > After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
> > for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> > Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
> >
> > Regards Doug
>
>

Larry
Tue Aug 12 18:16:15 PDT 2008

Ok, so I answered another question, not the one you asked. Too little
sleep. It was another post about the add a user wiz.

When you say it "will not connect", what are you experiencing? Do you mean
the wizard does not finish, or that the server or the workstations cannot
connect to the internet or ?

the results of the ipconfig /all may still be useful.

-Larry

"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@mis-wizards.com> wrote in
message news:%23HpUt$N$IHA.4460@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi Doug:
>
> Your question leads me to ask why you find it necessary to fill in any ip
> info. Your SBS server should be acting as the DHCP server for your LAN
> and the workstation should be getting all of its DNS and IP info from the
> SBS DHCP.
>
> If you have been using the Wizards, and if all DNS settings point to your
> SBS internal nic, connections should be immediate.
>
> If you have questions about the DNS settings, please post the unedited
> results of the following command;
>
> ipconfig /all > c:\iptest.txt
>
> from the SBS and a typical workstation:
>
> -Larry
>
> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
>>I have had this problem at a few sites.
>> SBS setup with 2 NIC
>> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
>> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
>> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
>> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>>
>> Now the problem
>> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
>> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
>> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>>
>> Regards Doug
>

itinfo
Tue Aug 12 18:20:08 PDT 2008

Yes, if this was incorrect then it may never connect
As I stated in the first post it just takes a long time to connect to the
internet

"Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:

> Are you putting in the correct IP DNS Gateway information?
> (that your ISP gives you?)
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>
>
> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
> >I have had this problem at a few sites.
> > SBS setup with 2 NIC
> > ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> > Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> > password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> > Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
> >
> > Now the problem
> > After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
> > for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> > Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
> >
> > Regards Doug
>
>
>

SuperGumby
Tue Aug 12 18:34:12 PDT 2008

Do yourself a favour and grab a simple NAT router that can perform the
PPPoE/A login for you. It is quite possible the existing ADSL device may be
able to be put into NAT mode, this will do.

The main reason for this recommendation is to provide a stable IP interface
to your 'external' connection. There is a secondary (and these days rather
minor) advantage that the additional NAT layer offers some protection to the
server.

The only 'down' side is that you then need to set up port forwarding on the
device, but for most devices the few minutes required to do so is not as
much cost as the benefits.

"itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
>I have had this problem at a few sites.
> SBS setup with 2 NIC
> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>
> Now the problem
> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>
> Regards Doug

Russ
Tue Aug 12 18:34:03 PDT 2008

sounds like a DNS Issue
Post the IPCONFIG of a Workstation and the server.

I'd also be tempted to use OpenDNS.com DNS servers
(Some ISP's have terrible DNS servers)

Open DNS servers are
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

They are Free and if you sign up you can use their FREE filtering.
It's AWESOME!


Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz


"itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BE4277CF-C5ED-4348-94C4-018FDCDA0ABA@microsoft.com...
> Yes, if this was incorrect then it may never connect
> As I stated in the first post it just takes a long time to connect to the
> internet
>
> "Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:
>
>> Are you putting in the correct IP DNS Gateway information?
>> (that your ISP gives you?)
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
>> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>>
>>
>> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
>> >I have had this problem at a few sites.
>> > SBS setup with 2 NIC
>> > ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
>> > Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
>> > password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
>> > Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>> >
>> > Now the problem
>> > After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave
>> > it
>> > for about 2 hours or more it connects.
>> > Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>> >
>> > Regards Doug
>>
>>
>>

Russ
Tue Aug 12 18:46:31 PDT 2008

In addition it gives you another quick link for network
to make sure it's not a server issue.

Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz


"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
news:%23WYZzSO$IHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Do yourself a favour and grab a simple NAT router that can perform the
> PPPoE/A login for you. It is quite possible the existing ADSL device may
> be able to be put into NAT mode, this will do.
>
> The main reason for this recommendation is to provide a stable IP
> interface to your 'external' connection. There is a secondary (and these
> days rather minor) advantage that the additional NAT layer offers some
> protection to the server.
>
> The only 'down' side is that you then need to set up port forwarding on
> the device, but for most devices the few minutes required to do so is not
> as much cost as the benefits.
>
> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
>>I have had this problem at a few sites.
>> SBS setup with 2 NIC
>> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
>> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
>> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
>> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>>
>> Now the problem
>> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
>> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
>> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>>
>> Regards Doug
>
>

itinfo
Tue Aug 12 20:01:07 PDT 2008

The wiz finishers OK but there is no internet connection
It takes 2 or more hours then it connect and is Ok from there on
IPCONFIG /ALL SERVER
Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : server
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Lacool.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Lacool.local

PPP adapter RAS Server (Dial In) Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.23
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-3F-C5-93
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.100
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.100

Ethernet adapter ADSL:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast
Ethernet
NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-E0-0E-51-62
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.99
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.100
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

PPP adapter Small Business Broadband Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 202.173.182.161
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 202.173.159.117
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 203.21.20.20
203.10.1.9
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>



"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Ok, so I answered another question, not the one you asked. Too little
> sleep. It was another post about the add a user wiz.
>
> When you say it "will not connect", what are you experiencing? Do you mean
> the wizard does not finish, or that the server or the workstations cannot
> connect to the internet or ?
>
> the results of the ipconfig /all may still be useful.
>
> -Larry
>
> "Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@mis-wizards.com> wrote in
> message news:%23HpUt$N$IHA.4460@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Doug:
> >
> > Your question leads me to ask why you find it necessary to fill in any ip
> > info. Your SBS server should be acting as the DHCP server for your LAN
> > and the workstation should be getting all of its DNS and IP info from the
> > SBS DHCP.
> >
> > If you have been using the Wizards, and if all DNS settings point to your
> > SBS internal nic, connections should be immediate.
> >
> > If you have questions about the DNS settings, please post the unedited
> > results of the following command;
> >
> > ipconfig /all > c:\iptest.txt
> >
> > from the SBS and a typical workstation:
> >
> > -Larry
> >
> > "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
> >>I have had this problem at a few sites.
> >> SBS setup with 2 NIC
> >> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> >> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> >> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> >> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
> >>
> >> Now the problem
> >> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
> >> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> >> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
> >>
> >> Regards Doug
> >
>
>

itinfo
Tue Aug 12 20:03:01 PDT 2008

Many thanks, next time I have this problem I will give these DNS a go
What dose the FREE Fitering do?

"Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:

> sounds like a DNS Issue
> Post the IPCONFIG of a Workstation and the server.
>
> I'd also be tempted to use OpenDNS.com DNS servers
> (Some ISP's have terrible DNS servers)
>
> Open DNS servers are
> 208.67.222.222
> 208.67.220.220
>
> They are Free and if you sign up you can use their FREE filtering.
> It's AWESOME!
>
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>
>
> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BE4277CF-C5ED-4348-94C4-018FDCDA0ABA@microsoft.com...
> > Yes, if this was incorrect then it may never connect
> > As I stated in the first post it just takes a long time to connect to the
> > internet
> >
> > "Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:
> >
> >> Are you putting in the correct IP DNS Gateway information?
> >> (that your ISP gives you?)
> >>
> >> Russ
> >>
> >> --
> >> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
> >> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> >> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
> >> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
> >>
> >>
> >> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have had this problem at a few sites.
> >> > SBS setup with 2 NIC
> >> > ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> >> > Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> >> > password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> >> > Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
> >> >
> >> > Now the problem
> >> > After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave
> >> > it
> >> > for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> >> > Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
> >> >
> >> > Regards Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

itinfo
Tue Aug 12 20:05:01 PDT 2008

OK thanks,
Can you point me to some deatiled info about this?

"Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:

> In addition it gives you another quick link for network
> to make sure it's not a server issue.
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>
>
> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
> news:%23WYZzSO$IHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Do yourself a favour and grab a simple NAT router that can perform the
> > PPPoE/A login for you. It is quite possible the existing ADSL device may
> > be able to be put into NAT mode, this will do.
> >
> > The main reason for this recommendation is to provide a stable IP
> > interface to your 'external' connection. There is a secondary (and these
> > days rather minor) advantage that the additional NAT layer offers some
> > protection to the server.
> >
> > The only 'down' side is that you then need to set up port forwarding on
> > the device, but for most devices the few minutes required to do so is not
> > as much cost as the benefits.
> >
> > "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
> >>I have had this problem at a few sites.
> >> SBS setup with 2 NIC
> >> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> >> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> >> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> >> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
> >>
> >> Now the problem
> >> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
> >> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> >> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
> >>
> >> Regards Doug
> >
> >
>
>
>

itinfo
Tue Aug 12 20:10:00 PDT 2008

I take it from the responses that this maybe a ISP DNS issue and it takes
time for the DNS servers to populate or whatever.
This has only happened in the last few months and it is with the same ISP
If I set the modem to not bridged and let it be the device to login then the
connection is available immediately
However this is no good for RWW

Just thought that there might a way to force the connection immediately

Thanks for all your help

"itinfo" wrote:

> I have had this problem at a few sites.
> SBS setup with 2 NIC
> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>
> Now the problem
> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>
> Regards Doug

Russ
Tue Aug 12 20:24:02 PDT 2008

More than 30 categories
a.. Adware
b.. Alcohol
c.. Auctions
d.. Automotive
e.. Blogs
f.. Business Services
g.. Chat
h.. Classifieds
i.. Dating
j.. Drugs
k.. Ecommerce/Shopping
l.. Educational Institutions
m.. File storage
n.. Financial institutions
o.. Forums/Message boards
p.. Gambling
a.. Games
b.. Government
c.. Hate/Discrimination
d.. Health
e.. Humor
f.. Instant messaging
g.. Jobs/Employment
h.. Movies
i.. Music
j.. News/Media
k.. Non-profits
l.. P2P/File sharing
m.. Parked Domains
n.. Photo sharing
o.. Podcasts
p.. Politics
Portals
a.. Radio
b.. Religious
c.. Research/Reference
d.. Search engines
e.. Social networking
f.. Software/Technology
g.. Sports
h.. Television
i.. Travel
j.. Video sharing
k.. Visual search engines
l.. Weapons
m.. Webmail

Seriously just go to that site and see

OpenDNS.com

Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz


"itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7795560F-CE1E-48BF-8C9D-4ECA409F098B@microsoft.com...
> Many thanks, next time I have this problem I will give these DNS a go
> What dose the FREE Fitering do?
>
> "Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:
>
>> sounds like a DNS Issue
>> Post the IPCONFIG of a Workstation and the server.
>>
>> I'd also be tempted to use OpenDNS.com DNS servers
>> (Some ISP's have terrible DNS servers)
>>
>> Open DNS servers are
>> 208.67.222.222
>> 208.67.220.220
>>
>> They are Free and if you sign up you can use their FREE filtering.
>> It's AWESOME!
>>
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
>> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>>
>>
>> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BE4277CF-C5ED-4348-94C4-018FDCDA0ABA@microsoft.com...
>> > Yes, if this was incorrect then it may never connect
>> > As I stated in the first post it just takes a long time to connect to
>> > the
>> > internet
>> >
>> > "Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Are you putting in the correct IP DNS Gateway information?
>> >> (that your ISP gives you?)
>> >>
>> >> Russ
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
>> >> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>> >> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
>> >> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have had this problem at a few sites.
>> >> > SBS setup with 2 NIC
>> >> > ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
>> >> > Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name
>> >> > and
>> >> > password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
>> >> > Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now the problem
>> >> > After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just
>> >> > leave
>> >> > it
>> >> > for about 2 hours or more it connects.
>> >> > Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards Doug
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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Russ
Tue Aug 12 20:45:36 PDT 2008

Well it should be immediately
At least it is for me?

However if this is a new ISP and you are connecting network and the SBS
server on the same day.
then yes you will have to wait for them.

But Honestly After you run CEICW and put in the right IP Gateway and DNS
it should work Right Then and there!

I just suggested OpenDNS because Some ISP's have issues with their DNS
servers.
Russ

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Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz


"itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8717ABC1-A6F8-45D2-B609-0D5B7F8508E2@microsoft.com...
>I take it from the responses that this maybe a ISP DNS issue and it takes
> time for the DNS servers to populate or whatever.
> This has only happened in the last few months and it is with the same ISP
> If I set the modem to not bridged and let it be the device to login then
> the
> connection is available immediately
> However this is no good for RWW
>
> Just thought that there might a way to force the connection immediately
>
> Thanks for all your help
>
> "itinfo" wrote:
>
>> I have had this problem at a few sites.
>> SBS setup with 2 NIC
>> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
>> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
>> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
>> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>>
>> Now the problem
>> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
>> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
>> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>>
>> Regards Doug

Russ
Tue Aug 12 20:50:59 PDT 2008

Yes this book would be excellent for you.
Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 R2 Administrator's Companion
(Pro-Administrator's Companion)
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Business-Administrators-Companion-Pro-Administrators/dp/0735622809

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz


"itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3AFA3190-9EBB-4771-8B3B-10E2F73B92A7@microsoft.com...
> OK thanks,
> Can you point me to some deatiled info about this?
>
> "Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:
>
>> In addition it gives you another quick link for network
>> to make sure it's not a server issue.
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
>> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>>
>>
>> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
>> news:%23WYZzSO$IHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > Do yourself a favour and grab a simple NAT router that can perform the
>> > PPPoE/A login for you. It is quite possible the existing ADSL device
>> > may
>> > be able to be put into NAT mode, this will do.
>> >
>> > The main reason for this recommendation is to provide a stable IP
>> > interface to your 'external' connection. There is a secondary (and
>> > these
>> > days rather minor) advantage that the additional NAT layer offers some
>> > protection to the server.
>> >
>> > The only 'down' side is that you then need to set up port forwarding on
>> > the device, but for most devices the few minutes required to do so is
>> > not
>> > as much cost as the benefits.
>> >
>> > "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:7A7672B5-F862-4D9D-BF19-EA50054C8D40@microsoft.com...
>> >>I have had this problem at a few sites.
>> >> SBS setup with 2 NIC
>> >> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
>> >> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
>> >> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
>> >> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>> >>
>> >> Now the problem
>> >> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave
>> >> it
>> >> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
>> >> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>> >>
>> >> Regards Doug
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

itinfo
Tue Aug 12 21:54:07 PDT 2008

Thanks again Russ,
I will use the OpenDNS servers if I have this problem again
If that then fixes the issue tyhen we will know for sure that it was a
problem with the ISP servers

Cheers

"Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:

> Well it should be immediately
> At least it is for me?
>
> However if this is a new ISP and you are connecting network and the SBS
> server on the same day.
> then yes you will have to wait for them.
>
> But Honestly After you run CEICW and put in the right IP Gateway and DNS
> it should work Right Then and there!
>
> I just suggested OpenDNS because Some ISP's have issues with their DNS
> servers.
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>
>
> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8717ABC1-A6F8-45D2-B609-0D5B7F8508E2@microsoft.com...
> >I take it from the responses that this maybe a ISP DNS issue and it takes
> > time for the DNS servers to populate or whatever.
> > This has only happened in the last few months and it is with the same ISP
> > If I set the modem to not bridged and let it be the device to login then
> > the
> > connection is available immediately
> > However this is no good for RWW
> >
> > Just thought that there might a way to force the connection immediately
> >
> > Thanks for all your help
> >
> > "itinfo" wrote:
> >
> >> I have had this problem at a few sites.
> >> SBS setup with 2 NIC
> >> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
> >> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
> >> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
> >> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
> >>
> >> Now the problem
> >> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave it
> >> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
> >> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
> >>
> >> Regards Doug
>
>
>

Russ
Tue Aug 12 22:35:13 PDT 2008

So I'm confused what fixed it?
Just waiting?

Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz


"itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A5DE655B-221A-4AB3-93A9-73D369F7ADA8@microsoft.com...
> Thanks again Russ,
> I will use the OpenDNS servers if I have this problem again
> If that then fixes the issue tyhen we will know for sure that it was a
> problem with the ISP servers
>
> Cheers
>
> "Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:
>
>> Well it should be immediately
>> At least it is for me?
>>
>> However if this is a new ISP and you are connecting network and the SBS
>> server on the same day.
>> then yes you will have to wait for them.
>>
>> But Honestly After you run CEICW and put in the right IP Gateway and DNS
>> it should work Right Then and there!
>>
>> I just suggested OpenDNS because Some ISP's have issues with their DNS
>> servers.
>> Russ
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz
>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
>> World Wide Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>>
>>
>> "itinfo" <itinfo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8717ABC1-A6F8-45D2-B609-0D5B7F8508E2@microsoft.com...
>> >I take it from the responses that this maybe a ISP DNS issue and it
>> >takes
>> > time for the DNS servers to populate or whatever.
>> > This has only happened in the last few months and it is with the same
>> > ISP
>> > If I set the modem to not bridged and let it be the device to login
>> > then
>> > the
>> > connection is available immediately
>> > However this is no good for RWW
>> >
>> > Just thought that there might a way to force the connection immediately
>> >
>> > Thanks for all your help
>> >
>> > "itinfo" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have had this problem at a few sites.
>> >> SBS setup with 2 NIC
>> >> ADSL modem set as bridged/pass through
>> >> Running the wizard I select a connection that requires a user name and
>> >> password and fill in the fixed IP address and DNS fields
>> >> Just the normal thing that is used and works most of the time.
>> >>
>> >> Now the problem
>> >> After doing this sometimes it will not connect however if I just leave
>> >> it
>> >> for about 2 hours or more it connects.
>> >> Question is there a way to force the connection at anytime??
>> >>
>> >> Regards Doug
>>
>>
>>