Tilt as GPS receiver for Samsung Q1U-V?

So I totally gadget geeked out and now have the Samsung Q1U-V UMPC to go
along with my ATT Tilt.
Here's my question,

The Q1U has a GPS app called NavigatoR 2.0 but needs a receiver as the Q1U-V
doesn't have a GPS chip.
Can I connect my Tilt via USB and have it's GPS as the receiver?

Alemaker

Sergey
Sun Mar 16 10:18:07 PDT 2008

J> So I totally gadget geeked out and now have the Samsung Q1U-V UMPC
J> to go along with my ATT Tilt.
J> Here's my question,

J> The Q1U has a GPS app called NavigatoR 2.0 but needs a receiver as the
J> Q1U-V doesn't have a GPS chip.
J> Can I connect my Tilt via USB and have it's GPS as the receiver?

Try this (software GpsGate) - http://www.franson.com

Sven
Sun Mar 16 18:29:21 PDT 2008

Even with GPSGate, I think this is unlikely over USB. The USB interface
between a PPC and a PC is really just there for syncing, and sets up some
specific IP protocols and states that are going to be problematic.

I would have more confidence that you could do something over BT, using a
serial profile, and GPSGate to send the GPS signal to the PPC port and
having the UMPC pick the stream off it's end.


--
Sven
MVP Mobile Devices
"Sergey Nikiforov" <nikef@narod.ru> wrote in message
news:Oylp1m4hIHA.5260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> J> So I totally gadget geeked out and now have the Samsung Q1U-V UMPC
> J> to go along with my ATT Tilt.
> J> Here's my question,
>
> J> The Q1U has a GPS app called NavigatoR 2.0 but needs a receiver as the
> J> Q1U-V doesn't have a GPS chip.
> J> Can I connect my Tilt via USB and have it's GPS as the receiver?
>
> Try this (software GpsGate) - http://www.franson.com
>

Jeff
Sun Mar 16 20:31:04 PDT 2008

Thx,

Tried it and GpsGate sent the signal via active synch to the UMPC but
Navigon couldn't see it.
Had Navigon try to automatically find the connection and it didn't. One time
it said it did but never got any signal.
I may just buy a GPS receiver for the UMPC.

Jeff

"Sergey Nikiforov" <nikef@narod.ru> wrote in message
news:Oylp1m4hIHA.5260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> J> So I totally gadget geeked out and now have the Samsung Q1U-V UMPC
> J> to go along with my ATT Tilt.
> J> Here's my question,
>
> J> The Q1U has a GPS app called NavigatoR 2.0 but needs a receiver as the
> J> Q1U-V doesn't have a GPS chip.
> J> Can I connect my Tilt via USB and have it's GPS as the receiver?
>
> Try this (software GpsGate) - http://www.franson.com
>

Jeff
Sun Mar 16 20:35:30 PDT 2008

Sven,

GpsGate saw the active synch connection and supposedly sent the signal
to the UMPC but, Navigon never saw it. One time Navigon said it configured a
port but it never worked, just kept getting a "There is no GPS device
connected" error by Navigon even though it said it configured it once.. This
is getting a tad techy for me and might just go buy a GPS receiver that
plugs into the UMPC.

Jeff

"Sven" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:AEB6D27F-FED9-4D77-BFE5-50CF19673980@microsoft.com...
> Even with GPSGate, I think this is unlikely over USB. The USB interface
> between a PPC and a PC is really just there for syncing, and sets up some
> specific IP protocols and states that are going to be problematic.
>
> I would have more confidence that you could do something over BT, using a
> serial profile, and GPSGate to send the GPS signal to the PPC port and
> having the UMPC pick the stream off it's end.
>
>
> --
> Sven
> MVP Mobile Devices
> "Sergey Nikiforov" <nikef@narod.ru> wrote in message
> news:Oylp1m4hIHA.5260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> J> So I totally gadget geeked out and now have the Samsung Q1U-V UMPC
>> J> to go along with my ATT Tilt.
>> J> Here's my question,
>>
>> J> The Q1U has a GPS app called NavigatoR 2.0 but needs a receiver as the
>> J> Q1U-V doesn't have a GPS chip.
>> J> Can I connect my Tilt via USB and have it's GPS as the receiver?
>>
>> Try this (software GpsGate) - http://www.franson.com
>>
>

Beverly
Mon Mar 17 06:43:29 PDT 2008

>> might just go buy a GPS receiver that plugs into the UMPC <<

Assuming that the umpc has bt, _strongly_ suggest you look for a
bluetooth gps receiver as that will not only be a much easier package to
manage and place the receiver for best signal, it can then be used with
any bt computer or winmobile device.

Additionally, if you shop for one (they should start under $70) consider
paying a few bucks more for a "bluetooth gps logger" which essentially
functions as a displayless stand alone receiver by continually logging
it's position (track) which can then be downloaded to a pc at a later time.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Sven
Mon Mar 17 08:06:17 PDT 2008

That's farther than I thought it would get. Nothing on the UMPC AS side is
likely to take that stream coming from the PPC and translate it to look like
it is coming from any particular Serial Port. As Bev says, there are lots of
available direct connect and BT GPS receivers. Look at Semsons.com

--
Sven
MVP Mobile Devices
"Jeff" <S.Cerevisiae@hmm.edu> wrote in message
news:8B01B994-2BA6-4756-84F1-89DDF8339A85@microsoft.com...
> Sven,
>
> GpsGate saw the active synch connection and supposedly sent the signal
> to the UMPC but, Navigon never saw it. One time Navigon said it configured
> a port but it never worked, just kept getting a "There is no GPS device
> connected" error by Navigon even though it said it configured it once..
> This is getting a tad techy for me and might just go buy a GPS receiver
> that plugs into the UMPC.
>
> Jeff
>
> "Sven" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AEB6D27F-FED9-4D77-BFE5-50CF19673980@microsoft.com...
>> Even with GPSGate, I think this is unlikely over USB. The USB interface
>> between a PPC and a PC is really just there for syncing, and sets up some
>> specific IP protocols and states that are going to be problematic.
>>
>> I would have more confidence that you could do something over BT, using a
>> serial profile, and GPSGate to send the GPS signal to the PPC port and
>> having the UMPC pick the stream off it's end.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sven
>> MVP Mobile Devices
>> "Sergey Nikiforov" <nikef@narod.ru> wrote in message
>> news:Oylp1m4hIHA.5260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> J> So I totally gadget geeked out and now have the Samsung Q1U-V
>>> UMPC
>>> J> to go along with my ATT Tilt.
>>> J> Here's my question,
>>>
>>> J> The Q1U has a GPS app called NavigatoR 2.0 but needs a receiver as
>>> the
>>> J> Q1U-V doesn't have a GPS chip.
>>> J> Can I connect my Tilt via USB and have it's GPS as the receiver?
>>>
>>> Try this (software GpsGate) - http://www.franson.com
>>>
>>
>

Jeff
Mon Mar 17 16:10:08 PDT 2008

Bev-(and Sven),

I appreciate your help with this but now it seems it has become a
moot point. I bought the UMPC specifically for the tablet function to take
notes on Word at school and work but, being left handed the physical
configuration of the device precludes me from using it effectively. (I keep
running over the mouse and it messes up my typing. I tried switching screen
orientation but then my hand brushes against touch menu buttons on the top
of the unit. It isn't going to work out for me at this time and since I
bought it from Dell and they have a 21 day satisfaction guarantee, I'm
returning it and sticking with good ole pen and paper at school and work.

Thanks again for trying to help.

Jeff

"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:%23INJjTDiIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> might just go buy a GPS receiver that plugs into the UMPC <<
>
> Assuming that the umpc has bt, _strongly_ suggest you look for a bluetooth
> gps receiver as that will not only be a much easier package to manage and
> place the receiver for best signal, it can then be used with any bt
> computer or winmobile device.
>
> Additionally, if you shop for one (they should start under $70) consider
> paying a few bucks more for a "bluetooth gps logger" which essentially
> functions as a displayless stand alone receiver by continually logging
> it's position (track) which can then be downloaded to a pc at a later
> time.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

Jeff
Mon Mar 17 16:47:23 PDT 2008

Sergey,

Thanks for the help, please see my latest post under Bev's replyto me.

Jeff

"Sergey Nikiforov" <nikef@narod.ru> wrote in message
news:Oylp1m4hIHA.5260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> J> So I totally gadget geeked out and now have the Samsung Q1U-V UMPC
> J> to go along with my ATT Tilt.
> J> Here's my question,
>
> J> The Q1U has a GPS app called NavigatoR 2.0 but needs a receiver as the
> J> Q1U-V doesn't have a GPS chip.
> J> Can I connect my Tilt via USB and have it's GPS as the receiver?
>
> Try this (software GpsGate) - http://www.franson.com
>

Jeff
Mon Mar 17 16:45:37 PDT 2008

oops-correction- my writing, not typing,the keyboard works fine and isn't
the problem.

Jeff

"Jeff" <S.Cerevisiae@hmm.edu> wrote in message
news:366F56B7-5F3D-422B-8DFF-DFC2755D317B@microsoft.com...
> Bev-(and Sven),
>
> I appreciate your help with this but now it seems it has become a
> moot point. I bought the UMPC specifically for the tablet function to take
> notes on Word at school and work but, being left handed the physical
> configuration of the device precludes me from using it effectively. (I
> keep running over the mouse and it messes up my typing. I tried switching
> screen orientation but then my hand brushes against touch menu buttons on
> the top of the unit. It isn't going to work out for me at this time and
> since I bought it from Dell and they have a 21 day satisfaction guarantee,
> I'm returning it and sticking with good ole pen and paper at school and
> work.
>
> Thanks again for trying to help.
>
> Jeff
>
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message news:%23INJjTDiIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> might just go buy a GPS receiver that plugs into the UMPC <<
>>
>> Assuming that the umpc has bt, _strongly_ suggest you look for a
>> bluetooth gps receiver as that will not only be a much easier package to
>> manage and place the receiver for best signal, it can then be used with
>> any bt computer or winmobile device.
>>
>> Additionally, if you shop for one (they should start under $70) consider
>> paying a few bucks more for a "bluetooth gps logger" which essentially
>> functions as a displayless stand alone receiver by continually logging
>> it's position (track) which can then be downloaded to a pc at a later
>> time.
>>
>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>>
>