I love my iPAQ 2210, and it's given me great service over the years.
But after several recent total losses needing full restore (probably
due to a failing backup battery, which I gather is hard-soldered so I
can't easily fix), I reckon the time has come to upgrade.

It's not the cost that has held me back, but the anticipated hassle of
getting all my programs (WM 2003) reinstalled and everything set up
sweetly again. Oh, and buying a new leather case ;-(

So I'd greatly appreciate recommendations from others please,
especially anyone who has upgraded from 2210/2215.

My main requirements are:

1) Easy installation of all or most of my existing WM2003 programs.

2) Bluetooth (because I have a little GPS receiver which communicates
via Bluetooth).

3) Hopefully a brighter screen; the 2210 is very hard to see outdoors.

4) Improved battery life.

5) Supports at least an SD card, and ideally an CF card as well, like
my 2210.

6) Obviously must have headphone socket. My 2210 is my portable music
player - one of my main applications (Pocket Music).

I'm not into smartphones etc (hardly use my bog-standard 'phone), so
I'm only looking for a PPC.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated please.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Re: Recommended new PPC? by Franky

Franky
Mon May 19 07:21:53 PDT 2008

Why don't give a look at Toshiba e800

I still have an e750 for a couple of years without any pbs...


--

Franky

"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> a écrit dans le message
de news: hn9234htvqsu6in8jtlgknook97s4g2ukr@4ax.com...
>I love my iPAQ 2210, and it's given me great service over the years.
> But after several recent total losses needing full restore (probably
> due to a failing backup battery, which I gather is hard-soldered so I
> can't easily fix), I reckon the time has come to upgrade.
>
> It's not the cost that has held me back, but the anticipated hassle of
> getting all my programs (WM 2003) reinstalled and everything set up
> sweetly again. Oh, and buying a new leather case ;-(
>
> So I'd greatly appreciate recommendations from others please,
> especially anyone who has upgraded from 2210/2215.
>
> My main requirements are:
>
> 1) Easy installation of all or most of my existing WM2003 programs.
>
> 2) Bluetooth (because I have a little GPS receiver which communicates
> via Bluetooth).
>
> 3) Hopefully a brighter screen; the 2210 is very hard to see outdoors.
>
> 4) Improved battery life.
>
> 5) Supports at least an SD card, and ideally an CF card as well, like
> my 2210.
>
> 6) Obviously must have headphone socket. My 2210 is my portable music
> player - one of my main applications (Pocket Music).
>
> I'm not into smartphones etc (hardly use my bog-standard 'phone), so
> I'm only looking for a PPC.
>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated please.
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK



Re: Recommended new PPC? by William

William
Mon May 19 07:45:57 PDT 2008

On 19 May, 08:22, Terry Pinnell <terrypinDEL...@THESEdial.pipex.com>
wrote:
> I love my iPAQ 2210, and it's given me great service over the years.
> But after several recent total losses needing full restore (probably
> due to a failing backup battery, which I gather is hard-soldered so I
> can't easily fix), I reckon the time has come to upgrade.
>
> It's not the cost that has held me back, but the anticipated hassle of
> getting all my programs (WM 2003) reinstalled and everything set up
> sweetly again. Oh, and buying a new leather case ;-(
>
> So I'd greatly appreciate recommendations from others please,
> especially anyone who has upgraded from 2210/2215.
>
> My main requirements are:
>
> 1) Easy installation of all or most of my existing WM2003 programs.
>
> 2) Bluetooth (because I have a little GPS receiver which communicates
> via Bluetooth).
>
> 3) Hopefully a brighter screen; the 2210 is very hard to see outdoors.
>
> 4) Improved battery life.
>
> 5) Supports at least an SD card, and ideally an CF card as well, like
> my 2210.
>
> 6) Obviously must have headphone socket. My 2210 is my portable music
> player - one of my main applications (Pocket Music).
>
> I'm not into smartphones etc (hardly use my bog-standard 'phone), so
> I'm only looking for a PPC.

I suggest you take a look at the iPAQ 114:
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=156153

and the iPAQ 214:
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=156268

I hear what you say about the phone, but if you spend enough on your
mobile, your provider would probably give you a TyTN-II for free. Most
of the UK mobile providers offer this device, although some of them
give it a different name.
See: http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=151713

If you are activesyncing to the same PC, then re-installing your
programs should be straightforward. Just use the add/remove programs
section of Activesync, it will have a stored list of the previously
installed programs, and you should be able to select the ones to be
sent to the new PPC.

--
WH

Re: Recommended new PPC? by Werner

Werner
Mon May 19 12:53:36 PDT 2008

Either the hx4700 upgraded to WM 6.1 or the iPAQ 210. See my review of the
latter on my blog, where I've thorought compared the two solutions.

You may also want to take a look at the x51v if you prefer a more
gaming-oriented PDA.

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:hn9234htvqsu6in8jtlgknook97s4g2ukr@4ax.com...
>I love my iPAQ 2210, and it's given me great service over the years.
> But after several recent total losses needing full restore (probably
> due to a failing backup battery, which I gather is hard-soldered so I
> can't easily fix), I reckon the time has come to upgrade.
>
> It's not the cost that has held me back, but the anticipated hassle of
> getting all my programs (WM 2003) reinstalled and everything set up
> sweetly again. Oh, and buying a new leather case ;-(
>
> So I'd greatly appreciate recommendations from others please,
> especially anyone who has upgraded from 2210/2215.
>
> My main requirements are:
>
> 1) Easy installation of all or most of my existing WM2003 programs.
>
> 2) Bluetooth (because I have a little GPS receiver which communicates
> via Bluetooth).
>
> 3) Hopefully a brighter screen; the 2210 is very hard to see outdoors.
>
> 4) Improved battery life.
>
> 5) Supports at least an SD card, and ideally an CF card as well, like
> my 2210.
>
> 6) Obviously must have headphone socket. My 2210 is my portable music
> player - one of my main applications (Pocket Music).
>
> I'm not into smartphones etc (hardly use my bog-standard 'phone), so
> I'm only looking for a PPC.
>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated please.
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK



Re: Recommended new PPC? by Todd

Todd
Mon May 19 13:24:56 PDT 2008

At 19 May 2008 08:22:59 +0100 Terry Pinnell wrote:
> I love my iPAQ 2210, and it's given me great service over the years.
> But after several recent total losses needing full restore (probably
> due to a failing backup battery, which I gather is hard-soldered so I
> can't easily fix), I reckon the time has come to upgrade.


Maybe...

> It's not the cost that has held me back, but the anticipated hassle of
> getting all my programs (WM 2003) reinstalled and everything set up
> sweetly again. Oh, and buying a new leather case ;-(


When my beloved Dell Axim X5 died after two years of excellent service, I
bought an identical one off of eBay- a few minutes to restore everything
from backup, create a new partnership, and I was off and runing.

> So I'd greatly appreciate recommendations from others please,
> especially anyone who has upgraded from 2210/2215.


The real problem, IMO, is two-fold. Few standalone PPCs are manufactured
any more (most are phones), and they really haven't improved a whole lot
(hardware-wise) in the years since you bought your 2210.


> I'm not into smartphones etc (hardly use my bog-standard 'phone), so
> I'm only looking for a PPC.


If you only use the phone very little, you're an ideal candidate for a PPC
phone, since the phone on them is usually crap! ;-)

> Any suggestions would be much appreciated please.


Moving to a new PPC will give you persistent memory (dead batteries are no
longer a problem, at least as far as wiping the device goes. The new HP
111 is $300 US, has an SD slot but no CF, 64MB memory and a 320x240 screen
like your 2210, WiFi and BT, and a 33% larger battery (1200mAH vs. 900.)
The 211 is $450 US, has twice the memory, a huge 2200mAH battery, VGA screen,
SD and CF.

Another 2210 on eBay runs about $120 US! ;-)



Re: Recommended new PPC? by Roger

Roger
Mon May 19 17:13:43 PDT 2008


"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
news:OZdcApeuIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Either the hx4700 upgraded to WM 6.1 or the iPAQ 210. See my review of the
> latter on my blog, where I've thorought compared the two solutions.
<snip>
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.

I will second the iPAQ 210 and state it supports both SD and CF.

FYI I don't know if this is like your old PPC but the CF slot on the iPAQ
210 is thick enough that I could use it with my 4g microdrive.

One more thing about the iPAQ 210. It comes with a "BT Phone Manager" that
is designed to help you get internet access from your cell phone. I tried
it a few times, I even got it to work but I'll never mess with it again.

I happen to have a PPC/phone with BT DUN and the iPAQ 210 just dials into it
on it's own and connects me to the internet without the "BT Phone Manager."

You can also use the iPAQ 210 to access the internet via BT PAN just like
you would do with a laptop computer with Bluetooth.



Re: Recommended new PPC? by Werner

Werner
Tue May 20 01:12:15 PDT 2008

Just a quick remark: the iPAQ hx4700 also has a CF II slot coompatible with
any cards including Microdrives. It, however, doesn't support SDHC, unlike
the 210. The two models (assuming the hx4700 has the WM6.1 upgrade;
otherwise, it's plain useless with anything WM5+) have pros and cons and,
without knowing Terry's preferences, it's pretty impossible to recommend
either of them over the other.


I've compared these two models VERY thoroughly at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/cms/blogs/3/the_hp_ipaq_210_an_in_depth_review

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
news:PbGdne76j5kqiq_VnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> "Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
> <!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
> news:OZdcApeuIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Either the hx4700 upgraded to WM 6.1 or the iPAQ 210. See my review of
>> the
>> latter on my blog, where I've thorought compared the two solutions.
> <snip>
>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>
> I will second the iPAQ 210 and state it supports both SD and CF.
>
> FYI I don't know if this is like your old PPC but the CF slot on the iPAQ
> 210 is thick enough that I could use it with my 4g microdrive.
>
> One more thing about the iPAQ 210. It comes with a "BT Phone Manager"
> that
> is designed to help you get internet access from your cell phone. I tried
> it a few times, I even got it to work but I'll never mess with it again.
>
> I happen to have a PPC/phone with BT DUN and the iPAQ 210 just dials into
> it
> on it's own and connects me to the internet without the "BT Phone
> Manager."
>
> You can also use the iPAQ 210 to access the internet via BT PAN just like
> you would do with a laptop computer with Bluetooth.
>
>



Re: Recommended new PPC? by Werner

Werner
Tue May 20 01:17:14 PDT 2008

Well, you can get the hx4700 for, say, $200 off ebay... and, with WM6.1,
it's immensely better than the e800 / e830 in every respect.

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Franky" <nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:48318c34$0$5409$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
> Why don't give a look at Toshiba e800
>
> I still have an e750 for a couple of years without any pbs...
>
>
> --
>
> Franky
>
> "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> a écrit dans le
> message de news: hn9234htvqsu6in8jtlgknook97s4g2ukr@4ax.com...
>>I love my iPAQ 2210, and it's given me great service over the years.
>> But after several recent total losses needing full restore (probably
>> due to a failing backup battery, which I gather is hard-soldered so I
>> can't easily fix), I reckon the time has come to upgrade.
>>
>> It's not the cost that has held me back, but the anticipated hassle of
>> getting all my programs (WM 2003) reinstalled and everything set up
>> sweetly again. Oh, and buying a new leather case ;-(
>>
>> So I'd greatly appreciate recommendations from others please,
>> especially anyone who has upgraded from 2210/2215.
>>
>> My main requirements are:
>>
>> 1) Easy installation of all or most of my existing WM2003 programs.
>>
>> 2) Bluetooth (because I have a little GPS receiver which communicates
>> via Bluetooth).
>>
>> 3) Hopefully a brighter screen; the 2210 is very hard to see outdoors.
>>
>> 4) Improved battery life.
>>
>> 5) Supports at least an SD card, and ideally an CF card as well, like
>> my 2210.
>>
>> 6) Obviously must have headphone socket. My 2210 is my portable music
>> player - one of my main applications (Pocket Music).
>>
>> I'm not into smartphones etc (hardly use my bog-standard 'phone), so
>> I'm only looking for a PPC.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated please.
>>
>> --
>> Terry, East Grinstead, UK
>
>



Re: Recommended new PPC? by Roger

Roger
Tue May 20 04:05:25 PDT 2008


"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
news:%233g3wFluIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Just a quick remark: the iPAQ hx4700 also has a CF II slot coompatible
with
> any cards including Microdrives. It, however, doesn't support SDHC, unlike
> the 210. The two models (assuming the hx4700 has the WM6.1 upgrade;
> otherwise, it's plain useless with anything WM5+) have pros and cons and,
> without knowing Terry's preferences, it's pretty impossible to recommend
> either of them over the other.
>
>
> I've compared these two models VERY thoroughly at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/cms/blogs/3/the_hp_ipaq_210_an_in_depth_review


Very good article and I noticed you stated:
"HP state the device has two speakers, one in the front; the latter might be
for Skype only (not confirmed)."

Well, when I tried it with Skype a while back the sound came out the back
speaker.

BTW, I fully agree with your remark of:
"The reason for my recommending the 210 is simply because there aren't
better 4" VGA devices out there" . . .

FYI I've posted about the quirks I've seen with the 210 and after hearing I
wasn't alone with the problems I decided to keep mine.



Re: Recommended new PPC? by Terry

Terry
Tue May 20 06:21:39 PDT 2008

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

>At 19 May 2008 08:22:59 +0100 Terry Pinnell wrote:
>> I love my iPAQ 2210, and it's given me great service over the years.
>> But after several recent total losses needing full restore (probably
>> due to a failing backup battery, which I gather is hard-soldered so I
>> can't easily fix), I reckon the time has come to upgrade.
>
>
>Maybe...
>
>> It's not the cost that has held me back, but the anticipated hassle of
>> getting all my programs (WM 2003) reinstalled and everything set up
>> sweetly again. Oh, and buying a new leather case ;-(
>
>
>When my beloved Dell Axim X5 died after two years of excellent service, I
>bought an identical one off of eBay- a few minutes to restore everything
>from backup, create a new partnership, and I was off and runing.
>
>> So I'd greatly appreciate recommendations from others please,
>> especially anyone who has upgraded from 2210/2215.
>
>
>The real problem, IMO, is two-fold. Few standalone PPCs are manufactured
>any more (most are phones), and they really haven't improved a whole lot
>(hardware-wise) in the years since you bought your 2210.
>
>
>> I'm not into smartphones etc (hardly use my bog-standard 'phone), so
>> I'm only looking for a PPC.
>
>
>If you only use the phone very little, you're an ideal candidate for a PPC
>phone, since the phone on them is usually crap! ;-)
>
>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated please.
>
>
>Moving to a new PPC will give you persistent memory (dead batteries are no
>longer a problem, at least as far as wiping the device goes. The new HP
>111 is $300 US, has an SD slot but no CF, 64MB memory and a 320x240 screen
>like your 2210, WiFi and BT, and a 33% larger battery (1200mAH vs. 900.)
>The 211 is $450 US, has twice the memory, a huge 2200mAH battery, VGA screen,
>SD and CF.
>
>Another 2210 on eBay runs about $120 US! ;-)
>

Thanks for all those helpful replies. Much to study. My initial
reaction to the 4470 or 210 is 'Love the screen, but wonder if it will
fit comfortably in my pocket during a hike?'

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Re: Recommended new PPC? by Todd

Todd
Tue May 20 09:27:33 PDT 2008


"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:cuj53450nesmabkmg8b9so747ogu92e35b@4ax.com...

> Thanks for all those helpful replies. Much to study. My initial
> reaction to the 4470 or 210 is 'Love the screen, but wonder if it will
> fit comfortably in my pocket during a hike?'

That brings up another option I hadn't explored. While I'm a huge fan of
PPCs, they are, in essence, technological "Swiss Army Knives"- jacks of many
trades but masters of none. Sure, it's nice to have a screwdriver on your
knife in a pinch, but if you're intending to assemble a bookcase, you're
going to grab a real screwdriver!

Perhaps a dedicated GPS unit with logging features and data-export to a PC
might be a better purchase for you than a new PPC, since your current PPC
still seems to work well for everything else. (Most, if not all, of your
recent posts have been attempts to make your PPC more suitable as a hiking
GPS.) A dedicated GPS would be more rugged , have a display intended for
use in sunlight, and have better battery life. Most can export logging data
to a PC for later use, just like you seem to be using your PPC for
currently. The only real advantage I see to using a PPC for your situation
is to cut down on weight if you were trying to replace several dedicated
devices with a single unit (i.e. GPS, "iPod", phone- which your 2210 isn't,
etc.) However, by the time you've lugged along a spare battery, battery
pack, etc., separates might make more sense. Modern flash-based MP3 players
are essentially "zero" size/weight these days and run all day on a single
battery/charge, so using a PPC for that is becoming less important (although
my HTC Wizard PPC phone is still my primary "iPod.") A lightweight phone,
GPS, and MP3 might talk up as little weight and space as a "loaded" PPC and
spare power.

If you're insistent on using a PPC as your all-in-one device, you might
consider the HTC Kaiser or it's operator-branded clones (for example, I
believe T-Mobile UK calls it the "MDA Vario III,")- it's a WinMo phone, PPC
and GPS all in one, and extended longer-life battery packs are available
from third parties to allow it run longer. Werner hates it, because it's
graphics rendering is slow due to HTC's laziness- they didn't write a driver
to take advantage of the high-speed graphics chip inside so it's slower than
it COULD be, but it's a solid all-in-one PPC phone, available at a discount
from many mobile operators. (Which is another reason the standalone PPC
market is dying- when a mobile operator offers PPC phones at subsidized
prices, it makes standalones much higher priced comparitively. My HTC
Wizard cost me less from T-Mo USA than I paid for ANY previous standalone
PPC I've ever purchased.)

Good luck!



Re: Recommended new PPC? by Werner

Werner
Tue May 20 09:30:04 PDT 2008

>>A lightweight phone, GPS, and MP3 might talk up as little weight and space
>>as a "loaded" PPC and spare power.<<

You can also consider getting a decent (smart)phone like the Nokia N95 that
has this all (and also a lot of features missing from the 210 / hx4700 like
an excellent camera), is very light and works just great when used as an
even HSDPA modem for the iPAQ's.

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:uP6HuZpuIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
> news:cuj53450nesmabkmg8b9so747ogu92e35b@4ax.com...
>
>> Thanks for all those helpful replies. Much to study. My initial
>> reaction to the 4470 or 210 is 'Love the screen, but wonder if it will
>> fit comfortably in my pocket during a hike?'
>
> That brings up another option I hadn't explored. While I'm a huge fan of
> PPCs, they are, in essence, technological "Swiss Army Knives"- jacks of
> many trades but masters of none. Sure, it's nice to have a screwdriver on
> your knife in a pinch, but if you're intending to assemble a bookcase,
> you're going to grab a real screwdriver!
>
> Perhaps a dedicated GPS unit with logging features and data-export to a PC
> might be a better purchase for you than a new PPC, since your current PPC
> still seems to work well for everything else. (Most, if not all, of your
> recent posts have been attempts to make your PPC more suitable as a hiking
> GPS.) A dedicated GPS would be more rugged , have a display intended for
> use in sunlight, and have better battery life. Most can export logging
> data to a PC for later use, just like you seem to be using your PPC for
> currently. The only real advantage I see to using a PPC for your
> situation is to cut down on weight if you were trying to replace several
> dedicated devices with a single unit (i.e. GPS, "iPod", phone- which your
> 2210 isn't, etc.) However, by the time you've lugged along a spare
> battery, battery pack, etc., separates might make more sense. Modern
> flash-based MP3 players are essentially "zero" size/weight these days and
> run all day on a single battery/charge, so using a PPC for that is
> becoming less important (although my HTC Wizard PPC phone is still my
> primary "iPod.") A lightweight phone, GPS, and MP3 might talk up as
> little weight and space as a "loaded" PPC and spare power.
>
> If you're insistent on using a PPC as your all-in-one device, you might
> consider the HTC Kaiser or it's operator-branded clones (for example, I
> believe T-Mobile UK calls it the "MDA Vario III,")- it's a WinMo phone,
> PPC and GPS all in one, and extended longer-life battery packs are
> available from third parties to allow it run longer. Werner hates it,
> because it's graphics rendering is slow due to HTC's laziness- they didn't
> write a driver to take advantage of the high-speed graphics chip inside so
> it's slower than it COULD be, but it's a solid all-in-one PPC phone,
> available at a discount from many mobile operators. (Which is another
> reason the standalone PPC market is dying- when a mobile operator offers
> PPC phones at subsidized prices, it makes standalones much higher priced
> comparitively. My HTC Wizard cost me less from T-Mo USA than I paid for
> ANY previous standalone PPC I've ever purchased.)
>
> Good luck!
>
>



Re: Recommended new PPC? by Werner

Werner
Tue May 20 09:30:58 PDT 2008

Note that both devices are 4"; that is, they're pretty large. Without a
case, they still fit in shirt pockets, though.

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:cuj53450nesmabkmg8b9so747ogu92e35b@4ax.com...
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>>At 19 May 2008 08:22:59 +0100 Terry Pinnell wrote:
>>> I love my iPAQ 2210, and it's given me great service over the years.
>>> But after several recent total losses needing full restore (probably
>>> due to a failing backup battery, which I gather is hard-soldered so I
>>> can't easily fix), I reckon the time has come to upgrade.
>>
>>
>>Maybe...
>>
>>> It's not the cost that has held me back, but the anticipated hassle of
>>> getting all my programs (WM 2003) reinstalled and everything set up
>>> sweetly again. Oh, and buying a new leather case ;-(
>>
>>
>>When my beloved Dell Axim X5 died after two years of excellent service, I
>>bought an identical one off of eBay- a few minutes to restore everything
>>from backup, create a new partnership, and I was off and runing.
>>
>>> So I'd greatly appreciate recommendations from others please,
>>> especially anyone who has upgraded from 2210/2215.
>>
>>
>>The real problem, IMO, is two-fold. Few standalone PPCs are manufactured
>>any more (most are phones), and they really haven't improved a whole lot
>>(hardware-wise) in the years since you bought your 2210.
>>
>>
>>> I'm not into smartphones etc (hardly use my bog-standard 'phone), so
>>> I'm only looking for a PPC.
>>
>>
>>If you only use the phone very little, you're an ideal candidate for a PPC
>>phone, since the phone on them is usually crap! ;-)
>>
>>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated please.
>>
>>
>>Moving to a new PPC will give you persistent memory (dead batteries are no
>>longer a problem, at least as far as wiping the device goes. The new HP
>>111 is $300 US, has an SD slot but no CF, 64MB memory and a 320x240 screen
>>like your 2210, WiFi and BT, and a 33% larger battery (1200mAH vs. 900.)
>>The 211 is $450 US, has twice the memory, a huge 2200mAH battery, VGA
>>screen,
>>SD and CF.
>>
>>Another 2210 on eBay runs about $120 US! ;-)
>>
>
> Thanks for all those helpful replies. Much to study. My initial
> reaction to the 4470 or 210 is 'Love the screen, but wonder if it will
> fit comfortably in my pocket during a hike?'
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK



Re: Recommended new PPC? by Terry

Terry
Thu May 22 00:41:11 PDT 2008

"Werner \"Menneisyys\" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote:

>Note that both devices are 4"; that is, they're pretty large. Without a
>case, they still fit in shirt pockets, though.
>
>--

Thanks. On a 5-15 mile country hike I would never think of carrying a
PPC without a strong leather case, like the Krusell for my 2210.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Re: Recommended new PPC? by Roger

Roger
Thu May 22 03:42:46 PDT 2008


"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:np8a34th0dg5h91fhlfnrpvn0sfpba3b4u@4ax.com...
> "Werner \"Menneisyys\" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
> <!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote:
>
> >Note that both devices are 4"; that is, they're pretty large. Without a
> >case, they still fit in shirt pockets, though.
> >
> >--
>
> Thanks. On a 5-15 mile country hike I would never think of carrying a
> PPC without a strong leather case, like the Krusell for my 2210.
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK

The case that came with my iPAQ 210 only adds about 1/4 of an inch to each
dimension. It will still fit in a pocket but it is noticeably thicker.