Best web/wap site for viewing usenet groups on PocketPC

Hi

I sometimes use google groups to view usenet groups via PocketIE on my HTC
Tytn II, it works but is not brilliant. What is the best web or wap based
site for reading usenet groups in PocketIE?

Beverly
Mon May 19 07:43:49 PDT 2008

>> google groups to view usenet groups via PocketIE <<

imho, that's the best web interface... although there are a couple of
ppc newsreaders out there.

Assume you have experimented with the three pie display options?

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Nick
Mon May 19 10:11:23 PDT 2008

"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:uF72A7buIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> google groups to view usenet groups via PocketIE <<
>
> imho, that's the best web interface... although there are a couple of ppc
> newsreaders out there.
>
> Assume you have experimented with the three pie display options?
>

No what options are those ?

Nick
Mon May 19 10:51:35 PDT 2008

"Nick Le Lievre" <nicklelievre@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:g0scc6$hso$1@news.albasani.net...
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message news:uF72A7buIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> google groups to view usenet groups via PocketIE <<
>>
>> imho, that's the best web interface... although there are a couple of ppc
>> newsreaders out there.
>>
>> Assume you have experimented with the three pie display options?
>
> No what options are those ?

Right got them, the "one column" option is the best view as you can actually
select newer or older in threads that are over 28 or so messages long, in
the default view I was using "fit to screen" you couldn't select this
option, this was the main gripe I had with using google groups, if you log
into your googlemail just prior to visiting google groups you are actually
logged in and can post to usenet.

Beverly
Mon May 19 14:03:02 PDT 2008

>> No what options are those ? <<

insight <http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/insight/?en>

qmail <http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1344>

quesnetsoft <http://www.quesnetsoft.ru/>

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Roger
Mon May 19 16:49:28 PDT 2008


"Nick Le Lievre" <nicklelievre@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:g0seni$na1$1@news.albasani.net...
> "Nick Le Lievre" <nicklelievre@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g0scc6$hso$1@news.albasani.net...
> > "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> > message news:uF72A7buIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> google groups to view usenet groups via PocketIE <<
> >>
> >> imho, that's the best web interface... although there are a couple of
ppc
> >> newsreaders out there.
> >>
> >> Assume you have experimented with the three pie display options?
> >
> > No what options are those ?
>
> Right got them, the "one column" option is the best view as you can
actually
> select newer or older in threads that are over 28 or so messages long, in
> the default view I was using "fit to screen" you couldn't select this
> option, this was the main gripe I had with using google groups, if you log
> into your googlemail just prior to visiting google groups you are actually
> logged in and can post to usenet.

Thanks for the pointer on "one column" and I'll have to try that myself
sometime.

BTW there is another way to log into Google Groups with your PPC than the
one you mentioned.

1. Try to "Sign in" as normal and when you find you can't sign in then
click on "Creat an account now"

2. On the page you go to it says "Your Google Acccount gives you access to
Google Groups and other Google services. If you already have a Google
Account, you can sign in here. Click on where it says "sign in here" and
then you can sign in from that page.

Once you sign in on the third page you are also signed in on
http://m.google.com

Werner
Tue May 20 01:15:49 PDT 2008

Also note that I've thoughughly elaborate don the different rendering
techniques of all Windows Mobile browsers in the Web Browsing Bible and also
my recent W3C presentation. See my blog.

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
news:DeWdndcNqcSVj6_VnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> "Nick Le Lievre" <nicklelievre@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g0seni$na1$1@news.albasani.net...
>> "Nick Le Lievre" <nicklelievre@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:g0scc6$hso$1@news.albasani.net...
>> > "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
>> > message news:uF72A7buIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> google groups to view usenet groups via PocketIE <<
>> >>
>> >> imho, that's the best web interface... although there are a couple of
> ppc
>> >> newsreaders out there.
>> >>
>> >> Assume you have experimented with the three pie display options?
>> >
>> > No what options are those ?
>>
>> Right got them, the "one column" option is the best view as you can
> actually
>> select newer or older in threads that are over 28 or so messages long, in
>> the default view I was using "fit to screen" you couldn't select this
>> option, this was the main gripe I had with using google groups, if you
>> log
>> into your googlemail just prior to visiting google groups you are
>> actually
>> logged in and can post to usenet.
>
> Thanks for the pointer on "one column" and I'll have to try that myself
> sometime.
>
> BTW there is another way to log into Google Groups with your PPC than the
> one you mentioned.
>
> 1. Try to "Sign in" as normal and when you find you can't sign in then
> click on "Creat an account now"
>
> 2. On the page you go to it says "Your Google Acccount gives you access
> to
> Google Groups and other Google services. If you already have a Google
> Account, you can sign in here. Click on where it says "sign in here" and
> then you can sign in from that page.
>
> Once you sign in on the third page you are also signed in on
> http://m.google.com
>
>

Nick
Tue May 20 10:32:04 PDT 2008

"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:%23dG36OfuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> No what options are those ? <<
>
> insight <http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/insight/?en>
>
> qmail <http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1344>
>
> quesnetsoft <http://www.quesnetsoft.ru/>
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

I have to use google groups becuase my mobile data is free but NNTP ports
aren't allowed, I guess those programs above use an NNTP port and are
tradional news clients.

Nick
Tue May 20 10:47:38 PDT 2008

Roger 2008 wrote:
>
> Once you sign in on the third page you are also signed in on
> http://m.google.com

Thanks I have bookmarked that page and am posting this message from my
Tytn II. This is a much better way of signing in.

Todd
Tue May 20 15:28:39 PDT 2008


"Nick Le Lievre" <nicklelievre@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:g0v1v0$vod$1@news.albasani.net...
> I have to use google groups becuase my mobile data is free but NNTP ports
> aren't allowed, I guess those programs above use an NNTP port and are
> tradional news clients.

I have the same problem with my mobile operator- they block port 119.

My solution is to use aioe.org as my newsserver on my mobile, because
they're free, and can run either on the standard NNTP port (119) or port 80,
which is probably open (for HTTP.) For a newsreader I use QMail- the second
to last reader on Bev's list.

Roger
Tue May 20 23:09:53 PDT 2008


"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:OpflhjsuIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Nick Le Lievre" <nicklelievre@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g0v1v0$vod$1@news.albasani.net...
> > I have to use google groups becuase my mobile data is free but NNTP
ports
> > aren't allowed, I guess those programs above use an NNTP port and are
> > tradional news clients.
>
> I have the same problem with my mobile operator- they block port 119.
>
> My solution is to use aioe.org as my newsserver on my mobile, because
> they're free, and can run either on the standard NNTP port (119) or port
80,
> which is probably open (for HTTP.) For a newsreader I use QMail- the
second
> to last reader on Bev's list.

Do you ever your "Phone as Modem" and if you do, do they still block port
119?

BTW, I saw this about Sprint yesterday:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/05/19/sprint-falls-in-line-caps-unlimited-data-at-5gb/

I know 5gb is a lot but I wish I knew if they would give us a way to check
our usage.

Pegleg
Wed May 21 07:33:04 PDT 2008

Roger 2008 wrote:

> I know 5gb is a lot but I wish I knew if they would give us a way to check
> our usage.

Data useage can be checked on the "My Account" web page.

Nick
Wed May 21 08:42:16 PDT 2008

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:OpflhjsuIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Nick Le Lievre" <nicklelievre@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g0v1v0$vod$1@news.albasani.net...
>> I have to use google groups becuase my mobile data is free but NNTP ports
>> aren't allowed, I guess those programs above use an NNTP port and are
>> tradional news clients.
>
> I have the same problem with my mobile operator- they block port 119.
>

Not quite my mobile data is through a proxy server 212.9.19.199. I just
tethered my Tytn II to my PC and then set the proxy server in IE I was able
to browse websites, but in Windows Mail there is no option for proxy server
so it has no way to resolve nntp.aioe.org and even if it could I dunno if
NNTP requests would work even if they were on port 80.

Todd
Wed May 21 09:01:02 PDT 2008


"Nick Le Lievre" <nicklelievre@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:g11fso$uuu$1@news.albasani.net...
>> I have the same problem with my mobile operator- they block port 119.
>>
>
> Not quite my mobile data is through a proxy server 212.9.19.199. I just
> tethered my Tytn II to my PC and then set the proxy server in IE I was
> able to browse websites, but in Windows Mail there is no option for proxy
> server so it has no way to resolve nntp.aioe.org and even if it could I
> dunno if NNTP requests would work even if they were on port 80.

T-Mo USA, my operator, also uses a proxy for HTTP, but leaves POP, SMTP, and
IMAP ports open for e-mail access. (At least on the dirt cheap $6 US/month
unlimited internet access plan I use- their higher cost plans are
unrestricted.)

I did speak too soon, however- upon reflection, I remembered QMail didn't
work through the proxy either- I have it set up to connect over GSM data
(CSD) through a free dialup ISP (that blocks 119 and SMTP port 25 to prevent
spam.) 9.6k GSM data isn't that bad for low bandwidth applications like
Usenet text groups- I set it up so long ago I'd forgotten! Sorry!

Google Groups is probably the way to go for you, unless anyone knows a good
WAP portal for Usenet.

Nick
Wed May 21 10:25:22 PDT 2008

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:eFV4hv1uIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> T-Mo USA, my operator, also uses a proxy for HTTP, but leaves POP, SMTP,
> and IMAP ports open for e-mail access. (At least on the dirt cheap $6
> US/month unlimited internet access plan I use- their higher cost plans are
> unrestricted.)
>

I use Googlemail's Java app for email which works over the proxy connection
I have and is a seperate email client in itself, no need to use crappy WAP
based mail. Therefore I don't need the POP, SMTP or IMAP ports open and my
connection is £0 per month as I`m on payG and only top up once a year,
mainly use my Tytn II use recieving calls, email and looking at google
groups.

> I did speak too soon, however- upon reflection, I remembered QMail didn't
> work through the proxy either- I have it set up to connect over GSM data
> (CSD) through a free dialup ISP (that blocks 119 and SMTP port 25 to
> prevent spam.) 9.6k GSM data isn't that bad for low bandwidth
> applications like Usenet text groups- I set it up so long ago I'd
> forgotten! Sorry!
>
> Google Groups is probably the way to go for you, unless anyone knows a
> good WAP portal for Usenet.
>

Yeah Google Groups ain't too bad actually it serves a purpose - its better
then nothing.

Roger
Wed May 21 18:34:10 PDT 2008


"Pegleg" <brian.pegleg.jones@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:g11bqv$io4$1@aioe.org...
> Roger 2008 wrote:
>
> > I know 5gb is a lot but I wish I knew if they would give us a way to
check
> > our usage.
>
> Data useage can be checked on the "My Account" web page.

Thanks for the info. I just found out I'm at 1.8 gig already and I didn't
think I used my Slingbox that much this month.