On our WinCE 5.0 platform, we have a PCMCIA (actually CF) Prism2-based WiFi
card.

The built-in ISLP2 driver works fine with WZC, but we have our own WiFi
connection manager that we would prefer to use. But if I disable WZC by
unchecking its "Use Windows to configure my wireless settings" checkbox, my
card doesn't seem to associate with AP's or get an IP, even though NDIS
calls seem to indicate that I *am* associated nicely.

If I enable WCZ, let it perform an initial association, and then disable it,
then everything is good and my own wireless manager can happily associate
and disssociate with AP's.

Ideally, I would love to to totally remove WZC. But if I can't, then I
would like it to be totally invisibile and unobtrusive. Is there a way to
achieve this?

-KB

Re: How to disable Wireless Zero Config by Paul

Paul
Wed Jun 14 15:06:24 CDT 2006

A search of the group archives would lead you to this thread (as well as
others):

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsce.app.development/browse_frm/thread/5026f4b51016020c/1536a52f7c14cb3d?lnk=st&q=disable+wzc+group%3Amicrosoft.public.windowsce.*&rnum=7&hl=en#1536a52f7c14cb3d

Are you sure that having your own interface isn't more annoying than useful
to the end-user?

Paul T.

"Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:uUmAJy%23jGHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> On our WinCE 5.0 platform, we have a PCMCIA (actually CF) Prism2-based
> WiFi card.
>
> The built-in ISLP2 driver works fine with WZC, but we have our own WiFi
> connection manager that we would prefer to use. But if I disable WZC by
> unchecking its "Use Windows to configure my wireless settings" checkbox,
> my card doesn't seem to associate with AP's or get an IP, even though NDIS
> calls seem to indicate that I *am* associated nicely.
>
> If I enable WCZ, let it perform an initial association, and then disable
> it, then everything is good and my own wireless manager can happily
> associate and disssociate with AP's.
>
> Ideally, I would love to to totally remove WZC. But if I can't, then I
> would like it to be totally invisibile and unobtrusive. Is there a way to
> achieve this?
>
> -KB
>
>



Re: How to disable Wireless Zero Config by Kirk

Kirk
Wed Jun 14 15:13:39 CDT 2006

(1) Thanks

(2) Yes, our end users are monkeys that shouldn't/couldn't deal with WiFi
config issues. Our wireless manager is smart and hands-free (ideally:P)

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
com> wrote in message news:uJfV93%23jGHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>A search of the group archives would lead you to this thread (as well as
>others):
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsce.app.development/browse_frm/thread/5026f4b51016020c/1536a52f7c14cb3d?lnk=st&q=disable+wzc+group%3Amicrosoft.public.windowsce.*&rnum=7&hl=en#1536a52f7c14cb3d
>
> Are you sure that having your own interface isn't more annoying than
> useful to the end-user?
>
> Paul T.
>
> "Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:uUmAJy%23jGHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> On our WinCE 5.0 platform, we have a PCMCIA (actually CF) Prism2-based
>> WiFi card.
>>
>> The built-in ISLP2 driver works fine with WZC, but we have our own WiFi
>> connection manager that we would prefer to use. But if I disable WZC by
>> unchecking its "Use Windows to configure my wireless settings" checkbox,
>> my card doesn't seem to associate with AP's or get an IP, even though
>> NDIS calls seem to indicate that I *am* associated nicely.
>>
>> If I enable WCZ, let it perform an initial association, and then disable
>> it, then everything is good and my own wireless manager can happily
>> associate and disssociate with AP's.
>>
>> Ideally, I would love to to totally remove WZC. But if I can't, then I
>> would like it to be totally invisibile and unobtrusive. Is there a way
>> to achieve this?
>>
>> -KB
>>
>>
>
>



Re: How to disable Wireless Zero Config by Kirk

Kirk
Wed Jun 14 16:38:13 CDT 2006

I guess rather than "How to disable WZC", I should be asking "How do I make
the ISLP2 driver work without WZC".

Do some drivers *require* WZC?

-KirkB

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
com> wrote in message news:uJfV93%23jGHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>A search of the group archives would lead you to this thread (as well as
>others):
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsce.app.development/browse_frm/thread/5026f4b51016020c/1536a52f7c14cb3d?lnk=st&q=disable+wzc+group%3Amicrosoft.public.windowsce.*&rnum=7&hl=en#1536a52f7c14cb3d
>
> Are you sure that having your own interface isn't more annoying than
> useful to the end-user?
>
> Paul T.
>
> "Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:uUmAJy%23jGHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> On our WinCE 5.0 platform, we have a PCMCIA (actually CF) Prism2-based
>> WiFi card.
>>
>> The built-in ISLP2 driver works fine with WZC, but we have our own WiFi
>> connection manager that we would prefer to use. But if I disable WZC by
>> unchecking its "Use Windows to configure my wireless settings" checkbox,
>> my card doesn't seem to associate with AP's or get an IP, even though
>> NDIS calls seem to indicate that I *am* associated nicely.
>>
>> If I enable WCZ, let it perform an initial association, and then disable
>> it, then everything is good and my own wireless manager can happily
>> associate and disssociate with AP's.
>>
>> Ideally, I would love to to totally remove WZC. But if I can't, then I
>> would like it to be totally invisibile and unobtrusive. Is there a way
>> to achieve this?
>>
>> -KB
>>
>>
>
>



Re: How to disable Wireless Zero Config by Paul

Paul
Wed Jun 14 16:53:09 CDT 2006

Can't answer that question. If you act just like WZC, I don't see how it
would know, but, of course, there's no documentation of what happens and
when in WZC.

Paul T.

"Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:ufbBYr$jGHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I guess rather than "How to disable WZC", I should be asking "How do I make
>the ISLP2 driver work without WZC".
>
> Do some drivers *require* WZC?
>
> -KirkB
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
> com> wrote in message news:uJfV93%23jGHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>A search of the group archives would lead you to this thread (as well as
>>others):
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsce.app.development/browse_frm/thread/5026f4b51016020c/1536a52f7c14cb3d?lnk=st&q=disable+wzc+group%3Amicrosoft.public.windowsce.*&rnum=7&hl=en#1536a52f7c14cb3d
>>
>> Are you sure that having your own interface isn't more annoying than
>> useful to the end-user?
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>> "Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>> news:uUmAJy%23jGHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> On our WinCE 5.0 platform, we have a PCMCIA (actually CF) Prism2-based
>>> WiFi card.
>>>
>>> The built-in ISLP2 driver works fine with WZC, but we have our own WiFi
>>> connection manager that we would prefer to use. But if I disable WZC by
>>> unchecking its "Use Windows to configure my wireless settings" checkbox,
>>> my card doesn't seem to associate with AP's or get an IP, even though
>>> NDIS calls seem to indicate that I *am* associated nicely.
>>>
>>> If I enable WCZ, let it perform an initial association, and then disable
>>> it, then everything is good and my own wireless manager can happily
>>> associate and disssociate with AP's.
>>>
>>> Ideally, I would love to to totally remove WZC. But if I can't, then I
>>> would like it to be totally invisibile and unobtrusive. Is there a way
>>> to achieve this?
>>>
>>> -KB
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: How to disable Wireless Zero Config by Kirk

Kirk
Wed Jun 14 18:45:34 CDT 2006

If I disable WZC (by unchecking all the options in the WZC gui) and then
start my own wireless manager (which is nothing fancy -- just an NDIS
wrapper) then I end up in a real weird state.

Even though I'm associated with an IP and have a valid (static) IP, my CE
board won't respond to pings and won't get responses to pings it sends. But
if I start IE, I can get to any web site. If I quickly enable and disable
WZC, pings are happy again.

So it's as if some aspect of the IP stack is gimped if I disable WZC.

Have any of the folks who have developed WZC replacements experienced this?

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
com> wrote in message news:uMMYuz$jGHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Can't answer that question. If you act just like WZC, I don't see how it
> would know, but, of course, there's no documentation of what happens and
> when in WZC.
>
> Paul T.
>
> "Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:ufbBYr$jGHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I guess rather than "How to disable WZC", I should be asking "How do I
>>make the ISLP2 driver work without WZC".
>>
>> Do some drivers *require* WZC?
>>
>> -KirkB
>>
>> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam
>> DOT com> wrote in message news:uJfV93%23jGHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>A search of the group archives would lead you to this thread (as well as
>>>others):
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsce.app.development/browse_frm/thread/5026f4b51016020c/1536a52f7c14cb3d?lnk=st&q=disable+wzc+group%3Amicrosoft.public.windowsce.*&rnum=7&hl=en#1536a52f7c14cb3d
>>>
>>> Are you sure that having your own interface isn't more annoying than
>>> useful to the end-user?
>>>
>>> Paul T.
>>>
>>> "Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>>> news:uUmAJy%23jGHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> On our WinCE 5.0 platform, we have a PCMCIA (actually CF) Prism2-based
>>>> WiFi card.
>>>>
>>>> The built-in ISLP2 driver works fine with WZC, but we have our own WiFi
>>>> connection manager that we would prefer to use. But if I disable WZC
>>>> by unchecking its "Use Windows to configure my wireless settings"
>>>> checkbox, my card doesn't seem to associate with AP's or get an IP,
>>>> even though NDIS calls seem to indicate that I *am* associated nicely.
>>>>
>>>> If I enable WCZ, let it perform an initial association, and then
>>>> disable it, then everything is good and my own wireless manager can
>>>> happily associate and disssociate with AP's.
>>>>
>>>> Ideally, I would love to to totally remove WZC. But if I can't, then I
>>>> would like it to be totally invisibile and unobtrusive. Is there a way
>>>> to achieve this?
>>>>
>>>> -KB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: How to disable Wireless Zero Config by Paul

Paul
Thu Jun 15 10:23:34 CDT 2006

That's *not* disabling WZC, it's just turning it off for that adapter, or
that's how I'd read it...

Paul T.

"Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:OPiGiyAkGHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If I disable WZC (by unchecking all the options in the WZC gui) and then
> start my own wireless manager (which is nothing fancy -- just an NDIS
> wrapper) then I end up in a real weird state.
>
> Even though I'm associated with an IP and have a valid (static) IP, my CE
> board won't respond to pings and won't get responses to pings it sends.
> But if I start IE, I can get to any web site. If I quickly enable and
> disable WZC, pings are happy again.
>
> So it's as if some aspect of the IP stack is gimped if I disable WZC.
>
> Have any of the folks who have developed WZC replacements experienced
> this?
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
> com> wrote in message news:uMMYuz$jGHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Can't answer that question. If you act just like WZC, I don't see how it
>> would know, but, of course, there's no documentation of what happens and
>> when in WZC.
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>> "Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>> news:ufbBYr$jGHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I guess rather than "How to disable WZC", I should be asking "How do I
>>>make the ISLP2 driver work without WZC".
>>>
>>> Do some drivers *require* WZC?
>>>
>>> -KirkB
>>>
>>> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam
>>> DOT com> wrote in message
>>> news:uJfV93%23jGHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>A search of the group archives would lead you to this thread (as well as
>>>>others):
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsce.app.development/browse_frm/thread/5026f4b51016020c/1536a52f7c14cb3d?lnk=st&q=disable+wzc+group%3Amicrosoft.public.windowsce.*&rnum=7&hl=en#1536a52f7c14cb3d
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure that having your own interface isn't more annoying than
>>>> useful to the end-user?
>>>>
>>>> Paul T.
>>>>
>>>> "Kirk B" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>>>> news:uUmAJy%23jGHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> On our WinCE 5.0 platform, we have a PCMCIA (actually CF) Prism2-based
>>>>> WiFi card.
>>>>>
>>>>> The built-in ISLP2 driver works fine with WZC, but we have our own
>>>>> WiFi connection manager that we would prefer to use. But if I disable
>>>>> WZC by unchecking its "Use Windows to configure my wireless settings"
>>>>> checkbox, my card doesn't seem to associate with AP's or get an IP,
>>>>> even though NDIS calls seem to indicate that I *am* associated nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I enable WCZ, let it perform an initial association, and then
>>>>> disable it, then everything is good and my own wireless manager can
>>>>> happily associate and disssociate with AP's.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally, I would love to to totally remove WZC. But if I can't, then
>>>>> I would like it to be totally invisibile and unobtrusive. Is there a
>>>>> way to achieve this?
>>>>>
>>>>> -KB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>