I was searching through some posts on using multiple IP addresses on a
single adapter, and I came upon a few responses from Paul Tobey. You
cracked me up. It is funny that you were starting to get a bunch of
these questions, and here I am with the same question. Well, I
already found out how to do it, but was wondering if you think my use
of two IP addresses is appropriate or not.

I have a wince device with one network card. I have a switch. I have
a IP based radio in bridge mode between its wired and wireless
adapter. The CE device, Switch, and radio are all built into a single
case. The CE Device and radio BOTH have web servers to configure
their settings. The CE device and radio are both hooked to the
switch. In adding a bunch more of these to the network, we
effectively get a big network of Radios and CE devices. My idea is to
set the radios configuration IP to a fixed 10.x.x.x address, along
with one address of the CE device's adapter. The other CE devices IP
address will be whatever the user wants it as. By doing things this
way, the user will not be able to get to the radio web page (We want
to handle the configuration of the radio through our software), unless
he changes the ip of his web browsers machine. This also eases the
configuration difficulties of having to manage a network with both
radios and devices. Does anyone see a better way to do this?


Thanks,

Tom Kuhn

Re: Multiple IP addresses on one adapter (Need to get Mr. Tobey's Attention) by Paul

Paul
Wed Apr 11 14:33:50 CDT 2007

You really don't want to direct your messages to specific people...

I guess that, if it works, it's all right, but it seems like you haven't
really solved the problem. Let's say that the network on which you install
this thing uses 10.x.x.x for PCs on the network (not an unreasonable
possibility). You're sure to have an IP address conflict, I'd think, at
some point, and a heck of a time fixing it, once you do. I can't think of a
better way to achieve the result, though, since the radio apparently has to
have an IP address (you could connect to it with serial or however you set
the initial configuration and just use it as a bridge, if it didn't require
itself to have an IP address).

Paul T.

"Tom" <kuhnto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176318301.103574.98400@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>I was searching through some posts on using multiple IP addresses on a
> single adapter, and I came upon a few responses from Paul Tobey. You
> cracked me up. It is funny that you were starting to get a bunch of
> these questions, and here I am with the same question. Well, I
> already found out how to do it, but was wondering if you think my use
> of two IP addresses is appropriate or not.
>
> I have a wince device with one network card. I have a switch. I have
> a IP based radio in bridge mode between its wired and wireless
> adapter. The CE device, Switch, and radio are all built into a single
> case. The CE Device and radio BOTH have web servers to configure
> their settings. The CE device and radio are both hooked to the
> switch. In adding a bunch more of these to the network, we
> effectively get a big network of Radios and CE devices. My idea is to
> set the radios configuration IP to a fixed 10.x.x.x address, along
> with one address of the CE device's adapter. The other CE devices IP
> address will be whatever the user wants it as. By doing things this
> way, the user will not be able to get to the radio web page (We want
> to handle the configuration of the radio through our software), unless
> he changes the ip of his web browsers machine. This also eases the
> configuration difficulties of having to manage a network with both
> radios and devices. Does anyone see a better way to do this?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Kuhn
>



Re: Multiple IP addresses on one adapter (Need to get Mr. Tobey's Attention) by Paul

Paul
Thu Apr 12 11:40:17 CDT 2007

I was just playing around with adding and removing extra IP addresses on
various adapters. I can't find any reason why it wouldn't work, *other*
than conflicting with the surrounding network's IP address range. If your
radio can be set up to only expose the 10.x.x.x address on its *wired*
interface, that would, I think fix that problem, but I don't know if you can
accomplish that.

Paul T.

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
com> wrote in message news:esxigAHfHHA.2284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You really don't want to direct your messages to specific people...
>
> I guess that, if it works, it's all right, but it seems like you haven't
> really solved the problem. Let's say that the network on which you
> install this thing uses 10.x.x.x for PCs on the network (not an
> unreasonable possibility). You're sure to have an IP address conflict,
> I'd think, at some point, and a heck of a time fixing it, once you do. I
> can't think of a better way to achieve the result, though, since the radio
> apparently has to have an IP address (you could connect to it with serial
> or however you set the initial configuration and just use it as a bridge,
> if it didn't require itself to have an IP address).
>
> Paul T.
>
> "Tom" <kuhnto@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1176318301.103574.98400@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>I was searching through some posts on using multiple IP addresses on a
>> single adapter, and I came upon a few responses from Paul Tobey. You
>> cracked me up. It is funny that you were starting to get a bunch of
>> these questions, and here I am with the same question. Well, I
>> already found out how to do it, but was wondering if you think my use
>> of two IP addresses is appropriate or not.
>>
>> I have a wince device with one network card. I have a switch. I have
>> a IP based radio in bridge mode between its wired and wireless
>> adapter. The CE device, Switch, and radio are all built into a single
>> case. The CE Device and radio BOTH have web servers to configure
>> their settings. The CE device and radio are both hooked to the
>> switch. In adding a bunch more of these to the network, we
>> effectively get a big network of Radios and CE devices. My idea is to
>> set the radios configuration IP to a fixed 10.x.x.x address, along
>> with one address of the CE device's adapter. The other CE devices IP
>> address will be whatever the user wants it as. By doing things this
>> way, the user will not be able to get to the radio web page (We want
>> to handle the configuration of the radio through our software), unless
>> he changes the ip of his web browsers machine. This also eases the
>> configuration difficulties of having to manage a network with both
>> radios and devices. Does anyone see a better way to do this?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom Kuhn
>>
>
>



Re: Multiple IP addresses on one adapter (Need to get Mr. Tobey's Attention) by Tom

Tom
Fri Apr 13 07:54:18 CDT 2007

On Apr 12, 12:40 pm, "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT
no instrument no spam DOT com> wrote:
> I was just playing around with adding and removing extra IP addresses on
> various adapters. I can't find any reason why it wouldn't work, *other*
> than conflicting with the surrounding network's IP address range. If your
> radio can be set up to only expose the 10.x.x.x address on its *wired*
> interface, that would, I think fix that problem, but I don't know if you can
> accomplish that.
>
> Paul T.
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
>
> com> wrote in messagenews:esxigAHfHHA.2284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > You really don't want to direct your messages to specific people...
>
> > I guess that, if it works, it's all right, but it seems like you haven't
> > really solved the problem. Let's say that the network on which you
> > install this thing uses 10.x.x.x for PCs on the network (not an
> > unreasonable possibility). You're sure to have an IP address conflict,
> > I'd think, at some point, and a heck of a time fixing it, once you do. I
> > can't think of a better way to achieve the result, though, since the radio
> > apparently has to have an IP address (you could connect to it with serial
> > or however you set the initial configuration and just use it as a bridge,
> > if it didn't require itself to have an IP address).
>
> > Paul T.
>
> > "Tom" <kuh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1176318301.103574.98400@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>I was searching through some posts on using multiple IP addresses on a
> >> single adapter, and I came upon a few responses from Paul Tobey. You
> >> cracked me up. It is funny that you were starting to get a bunch of
> >> these questions, and here I am with the same question. Well, I
> >> already found out how to do it, but was wondering if you think my use
> >> of two IP addresses is appropriate or not.
>
> >> I have a wince device with one network card. I have a switch. I have
> >> a IP based radio in bridge mode between its wired and wireless
> >> adapter. The CE device, Switch, and radio are all built into a single
> >> case. The CE Device and radio BOTH have web servers to configure
> >> their settings. The CE device and radio are both hooked to the
> >> switch. In adding a bunch more of these to the network, we
> >> effectively get a big network of Radios and CE devices. My idea is to
> >> set the radios configuration IP to a fixed 10.x.x.x address, along
> >> with one address of the CE device's adapter. The other CE devices IP
> >> address will be whatever the user wants it as. By doing things this
> >> way, the user will not be able to get to the radio web page (We want
> >> to handle the configuration of the radio through our software), unless
> >> he changes the ip of his web browsers machine. This also eases the
> >> configuration difficulties of having to manage a network with both
> >> radios and devices. Does anyone see a better way to do this?
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> Tom Kuhn

Thanks Paul,

The I can see the problems with conflicting IP addresses, but the IP
address of the radio can be set to whatever we want. So if we ran
into the problem of having a conflict we could just modify the radio
and device IP's to reduce the conflict. I love the serial idea, but
the unfortunatly I do not think it supports it.

Thanks for helping out!

Tom Kuhn


Re: Multiple IP addresses on one adapter (Need to get Mr. Tobey's Attention) by Paul

Paul
Fri Apr 13 11:01:36 CDT 2007

It's a fun little bit of research...

Paul T.

"Tom" <kuhnto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176468858.694821.289560@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 12, 12:40 pm, "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT
> no instrument no spam DOT com> wrote:
>> I was just playing around with adding and removing extra IP addresses on
>> various adapters. I can't find any reason why it wouldn't work, *other*
>> than conflicting with the surrounding network's IP address range. If
>> your
>> radio can be set up to only expose the 10.x.x.x address on its *wired*
>> interface, that would, I think fix that problem, but I don't know if you
>> can
>> accomplish that.
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam
>> DOT
>>
>> com> wrote in messagenews:esxigAHfHHA.2284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > You really don't want to direct your messages to specific people...
>>
>> > I guess that, if it works, it's all right, but it seems like you
>> > haven't
>> > really solved the problem. Let's say that the network on which you
>> > install this thing uses 10.x.x.x for PCs on the network (not an
>> > unreasonable possibility). You're sure to have an IP address conflict,
>> > I'd think, at some point, and a heck of a time fixing it, once you do.
>> > I
>> > can't think of a better way to achieve the result, though, since the
>> > radio
>> > apparently has to have an IP address (you could connect to it with
>> > serial
>> > or however you set the initial configuration and just use it as a
>> > bridge,
>> > if it didn't require itself to have an IP address).
>>
>> > Paul T.
>>
>> > "Tom" <kuh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1176318301.103574.98400@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> >>I was searching through some posts on using multiple IP addresses on a
>> >> single adapter, and I came upon a few responses from Paul Tobey. You
>> >> cracked me up. It is funny that you were starting to get a bunch of
>> >> these questions, and here I am with the same question. Well, I
>> >> already found out how to do it, but was wondering if you think my use
>> >> of two IP addresses is appropriate or not.
>>
>> >> I have a wince device with one network card. I have a switch. I have
>> >> a IP based radio in bridge mode between its wired and wireless
>> >> adapter. The CE device, Switch, and radio are all built into a single
>> >> case. The CE Device and radio BOTH have web servers to configure
>> >> their settings. The CE device and radio are both hooked to the
>> >> switch. In adding a bunch more of these to the network, we
>> >> effectively get a big network of Radios and CE devices. My idea is to
>> >> set the radios configuration IP to a fixed 10.x.x.x address, along
>> >> with one address of the CE device's adapter. The other CE devices IP
>> >> address will be whatever the user wants it as. By doing things this
>> >> way, the user will not be able to get to the radio web page (We want
>> >> to handle the configuration of the radio through our software), unless
>> >> he changes the ip of his web browsers machine. This also eases the
>> >> configuration difficulties of having to manage a network with both
>> >> radios and devices. Does anyone see a better way to do this?
>>
>> >> Thanks,
>>
>> >> Tom Kuhn
>
> Thanks Paul,
>
> The I can see the problems with conflicting IP addresses, but the IP
> address of the radio can be set to whatever we want. So if we ran
> into the problem of having a conflict we could just modify the radio
> and device IP's to reduce the conflict. I love the serial idea, but
> the unfortunatly I do not think it supports it.
>
> Thanks for helping out!
>
> Tom Kuhn
>