hi,
I have developed an OAL for arm 926 platform but I have done it without
KITL as we had time constraint for driver devlp. I am using UBOOT of linux to
download the kernel image and hence platform builder is not in any way
connected to target board. Now since driver development is in progress I have
been told to develop KITL connection. I have a doubt that I would like to
clarify and that is it necessary to have wince bootloader to download the
image to board so that KITL connection can be established, I have this issue
because i have seen only i way that is by "Attach Device" by which i can
connect the board and then if i use UBOOT and try to start the KITL how can
the messages appear on the platform builder. Please guys clear my doubt as to
whether wince bootloader is compulsary for KITL connection to be established

waiting for a favorable reply
thanks in advance




--
Thanks
Honey

Re: KITL connection for ARM 926 ejs by Leeman

Leeman
Wed Sep 27 01:31:38 CDT 2006


Honey =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

> hi,
> I have developed an OAL for arm 926 platform but I have done it without
> KITL as we had time constraint for driver devlp. I am using UBOOT of linu=
x to
> download the kernel image and hence platform builder is not in any way
> connected to target board. Now since driver development is in progress I =
have
> been told to develop KITL connection. I have a doubt that I would like to
> clarify and that is it necessary to have wince bootloader to download the
> image to board so that KITL connection can be established, I have this is=
sue
> because i have seen only i way that is by "Attach Device" by which i can
> connect the board and then if i use UBOOT and try to start the KITL how c=
an
> the messages appear on the platform builder. Please guys clear my doubt a=
s to
> whether wince bootloader is compulsary for KITL connection to be establis=
hed
>
> waiting for a favorable reply
> thanks in advance
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Thanks=20
> Honey


Re: KITL connection for ARM 926 ejs by Leeman

Leeman
Wed Sep 27 01:32:51 CDT 2006


Honey =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

> hi,
> I have developed an OAL for arm 926 platform but I have done it without
> KITL as we had time constraint for driver devlp. I am using UBOOT of linu=
x to
> download the kernel image and hence platform builder is not in any way
> connected to target board. Now since driver development is in progress I =
have
> been told to develop KITL connection. I have a doubt that I would like to
> clarify and that is it necessary to have wince bootloader to download the
> image to board so that KITL connection can be established, I have this is=
sue
> because i have seen only i way that is by "Attach Device" by which i can
> connect the board and then if i use UBOOT and try to start the KITL how c=
an
> the messages appear on the platform builder. Please guys clear my doubt a=
s to
> whether wince bootloader is compulsary for KITL connection to be establis=
hed
>
> waiting for a favorable reply
> thanks in advance
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Thanks=20
> Honey


Re: KITL connection for ARM 926 ejs by Leeman

Leeman
Wed Sep 27 01:39:28 CDT 2006

KITL is not correlated with bootloader. You should implement the
required KITL functions in OAL and build a OS support KITL.

Check the wince document for detail:
Bringing Up a Hardware Platform > Developing a Board Support Package >
Developing an OEM Adaptation Layer > OEM Adaptation Layer Reference >
OAL Functions>Required KITL Functions

Honey =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

> hi,
> I have developed an OAL for arm 926 platform but I have done it without
> KITL as we had time constraint for driver devlp. I am using UBOOT of linu=
x to
> download the kernel image and hence platform builder is not in any way
> connected to target board. Now since driver development is in progress I =
have
> been told to develop KITL connection. I have a doubt that I would like to
> clarify and that is it necessary to have wince bootloader to download the
> image to board so that KITL connection can be established, I have this is=
sue
> because i have seen only i way that is by "Attach Device" by which i can
> connect the board and then if i use UBOOT and try to start the KITL how c=
an
> the messages appear on the platform builder. Please guys clear my doubt a=
s to
> whether wince bootloader is compulsary for KITL connection to be establis=
hed
>
> waiting for a favorable reply
> thanks in advance
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Thanks=20
> Honey


Re: KITL connection for ARM 926 ejs by Henrik

Henrik
Wed Sep 27 02:58:08 CDT 2006

In fact, KITL functionality is usually influenced by the bootloader.
Many BSP:s use parameters passed by the bootloader to configure KITL,
so atleast you need to check if and how the BSP handle the absence of
such parameters.

Henrik Viklund
http://www.addlogic.se

Leeman wrote:
> KITL is not correlated with bootloader. You should implement the
> required KITL functions in OAL and build a OS support KITL.
>
> Check the wince document for detail:
> Bringing Up a Hardware Platform > Developing a Board Support Package >
> Developing an OEM Adaptation Layer > OEM Adaptation Layer Reference >
> OAL Functions>Required KITL Functions
>
> Honey =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
>
> > hi,
> > I have developed an OAL for arm 926 platform but I have done it without
> > KITL as we had time constraint for driver devlp. I am using UBOOT of li=
nux to
> > download the kernel image and hence platform builder is not in any way
> > connected to target board. Now since driver development is in progress =
I have
> > been told to develop KITL connection. I have a doubt that I would like =
to
> > clarify and that is it necessary to have wince bootloader to download t=
he
> > image to board so that KITL connection can be established, I have this =
issue
> > because i have seen only i way that is by "Attach Device" by which i can
> > connect the board and then if i use UBOOT and try to start the KITL how=
can
> > the messages appear on the platform builder. Please guys clear my doubt=
as to
> > whether wince bootloader is compulsary for KITL connection to be establ=
ished
> >
> > waiting for a favorable reply
> > thanks in advance
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Thanks=20
> > Honey


Re: KITL connection for ARM 926 ejs by Honey

Honey
Wed Sep 27 03:29:02 CDT 2006

hi,

Thanks for your response.
You mean that Bootloader is not required for KITL connection, if at all I
implement all the required functions. But then can you please clear one of my
doubt that when the KITL send functions are called by kernel which will
transfer messages through the ethernet where will I then recieve the messages
ie will it be on hyperterminal or platform builder window. I have this
confusion of How can we get messages on platform builder if platform builder
is not connected with target board itself

please solve my issue
waiting for you favorable reply
thanks in advance

--
Thanks
Honey


"Leeman" wrote:

> KITL is not correlated with bootloader. You should implement the
> required KITL functions in OAL and build a OS support KITL.
>
> Check the wince document for detail:
> Bringing Up a Hardware Platform > Developing a Board Support Package >
> Developing an OEM Adaptation Layer > OEM Adaptation Layer Reference >
> OAL Functions>Required KITL Functions
>
> Honey å??é??ï¼?
>
> > hi,
> > I have developed an OAL for arm 926 platform but I have done it without
> > KITL as we had time constraint for driver devlp. I am using UBOOT of linux to
> > download the kernel image and hence platform builder is not in any way
> > connected to target board. Now since driver development is in progress I have
> > been told to develop KITL connection. I have a doubt that I would like to
> > clarify and that is it necessary to have wince bootloader to download the
> > image to board so that KITL connection can be established, I have this issue
> > because i have seen only i way that is by "Attach Device" by which i can
> > connect the board and then if i use UBOOT and try to start the KITL how can
> > the messages appear on the platform builder. Please guys clear my doubt as to
> > whether wince bootloader is compulsary for KITL connection to be established
> >
> > waiting for a favorable reply
> > thanks in advance
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Honey
>
>

Re: KITL connection for ARM 926 ejs by Honey

Honey
Wed Sep 27 03:41:01 CDT 2006

hi,

yes KITL uses some arguments passed by bootloader but we can also give
static arguments in case bootloader is not used and we are in our case doing
the same
actually my confusion is where will we get the kitl messages from ethernet
will it be in hyperterminal or platform builder
--
Thanks
Honey


"Henrik Viklund" wrote:

> In fact, KITL functionality is usually influenced by the bootloader.
> Many BSP:s use parameters passed by the bootloader to configure KITL,
> so atleast you need to check if and how the BSP handle the absence of
> such parameters.
>
> Henrik Viklund
> http://www.addlogic.se
>
> Leeman wrote:
> > KITL is not correlated with bootloader. You should implement the
> > required KITL functions in OAL and build a OS support KITL.
> >
> > Check the wince document for detail:
> > Bringing Up a Hardware Platform > Developing a Board Support Package >
> > Developing an OEM Adaptation Layer > OEM Adaptation Layer Reference >
> > OAL Functions>Required KITL Functions
> >
> > Honey å??é??ï¼?
> >
> > > hi,
> > > I have developed an OAL for arm 926 platform but I have done it without
> > > KITL as we had time constraint for driver devlp. I am using UBOOT of linux to
> > > download the kernel image and hence platform builder is not in any way
> > > connected to target board. Now since driver development is in progress I have
> > > been told to develop KITL connection. I have a doubt that I would like to
> > > clarify and that is it necessary to have wince bootloader to download the
> > > image to board so that KITL connection can be established, I have this issue
> > > because i have seen only i way that is by "Attach Device" by which i can
> > > connect the board and then if i use UBOOT and try to start the KITL how can
> > > the messages appear on the platform builder. Please guys clear my doubt as to
> > > whether wince bootloader is compulsary for KITL connection to be established
> > >
> > > waiting for a favorable reply
> > > thanks in advance
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > Honey
>
>

Re: KITL connection for ARM 926 ejs by Henrik

Henrik
Wed Sep 27 06:12:00 CDT 2006

Isn't the whole point of you implementing KITL to connect Platform
Builder with your target? How do hyper terminal get into the picture?

Henrik Viklund
http://www.addlogic.se

Honey wrote:
> hi,
>
> yes KITL uses some arguments passed by bootloader but we can also give
> static arguments in case bootloader is not used and we are in our case do=
ing
> the same
> actually my confusion is where will we get the kitl messages from ethernet
> will it be in hyperterminal or platform builder
> --
> Thanks
> Honey
>
>
> "Henrik Viklund" wrote:
>
> > In fact, KITL functionality is usually influenced by the bootloader.
> > Many BSP:s use parameters passed by the bootloader to configure KITL,
> > so atleast you need to check if and how the BSP handle the absence of
> > such parameters.
> >
> > Henrik Viklund
> > http://www.addlogic.se
> >
> > Leeman wrote:
> > > KITL is not correlated with bootloader. You should implement the
> > > required KITL functions in OAL and build a OS support KITL.
> > >
> > > Check the wince document for detail:
> > > Bringing Up a Hardware Platform > Developing a Board Support Package >
> > > Developing an OEM Adaptation Layer > OEM Adaptation Layer Reference >
> > > OAL Functions>Required KITL Functions
> > >
> > > Honey =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
> > >
> > > > hi,
> > > > I have developed an OAL for arm 926 platform but I have done it wit=
hout
> > > > KITL as we had time constraint for driver devlp. I am using UBOOT o=
f linux to
> > > > download the kernel image and hence platform builder is not in any =
way
> > > > connected to target board. Now since driver development is in progr=
ess I have
> > > > been told to develop KITL connection. I have a doubt that I would l=
ike to
> > > > clarify and that is it necessary to have wince bootloader to downlo=
ad the
> > > > image to board so that KITL connection can be established, I have t=
his issue
> > > > because i have seen only i way that is by "Attach Device" by which =
i can
> > > > connect the board and then if i use UBOOT and try to start the KITL=
how can
> > > > the messages appear on the platform builder. Please guys clear my d=
oubt as to
> > > > whether wince bootloader is compulsary for KITL connection to be es=
tablished
> > > >
> > > > waiting for a favorable reply
> > > > thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > --=20
> > > > Thanks=20
> > > > Honey
> >=20
> >


Re: KITL connection for ARM 926 ejs by Honey

Honey
Wed Sep 27 06:48:01 CDT 2006

hi,
Thanks for your response

Yes i need KITL to connect the target with platform builder and hence the
issue and that is that I am not using wince bootloader to download the kernel
to target, but I am using the UBOOT of linux to download the kernel. Now the
main problem is when I start the KITL the ethernet send function is called
but the code hangs. I got confused bcos i dont know how the message will
arrive on platform builder if i am not doing "Attach Device " in kernel
download

So please clear my doubt is wince bootloader compulsary to use the KITL
services of platform builder or is there any other way to do it
--
Thanks
Honey


"Henrik Viklund" wrote:

> Isn't the whole point of you implementing KITL to connect Platform
> Builder with your target? How do hyper terminal get into the picture?
>
> Henrik Viklund
> http://www.addlogic.se
>
> Honey wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > yes KITL uses some arguments passed by bootloader but we can also give
> > static arguments in case bootloader is not used and we are in our case doing
> > the same
> > actually my confusion is where will we get the kitl messages from ethernet
> > will it be in hyperterminal or platform builder
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Honey
> >
> >
> > "Henrik Viklund" wrote:
> >
> > > In fact, KITL functionality is usually influenced by the bootloader.
> > > Many BSP:s use parameters passed by the bootloader to configure KITL,
> > > so atleast you need to check if and how the BSP handle the absence of
> > > such parameters.
> > >
> > > Henrik Viklund
> > > http://www.addlogic.se
> > >
> > > Leeman wrote:
> > > > KITL is not correlated with bootloader. You should implement the
> > > > required KITL functions in OAL and build a OS support KITL.
> > > >
> > > > Check the wince document for detail:
> > > > Bringing Up a Hardware Platform > Developing a Board Support Package >
> > > > Developing an OEM Adaptation Layer > OEM Adaptation Layer Reference