CEPC target TabletPC without FDD.

I am new to CE devices and even newer to Platfor Build, I am attempting to
build the OS and deploy it to a Tablet PC. If anyone has time to answer the
following question it would be greatly appreciated.

1. Can Windows XP (TabletPC) and Windows CE6 exist on the same (Tablet PC)
system?
2. Do I need to format the target (Tablet PC) a particular way?
3. Does the Platform Builder Boot Disk Utility add unilities to allow the
transfer over USB?
4. How can I download the OS Image if my target (Tablet PC) doesn't have a
FDD?

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers this post.

Regards,
Brian K. Williams

Paul
Tue Sep 25 15:55:45 CDT 2007

4. You could use Ethernet. I think that loadcepc will do Ethernet with
certain Enet controller types. See the /E switch, among others. Serial and
parallel are also available. I think that you need to be running real DOS
when you run loadcepc...

Paul T.

"Brian K. Williams" <williamsb@xgentracker.com> wrote in message
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>I am new to CE devices and even newer to Platfor Build, I am attempting to
>build the OS and deploy it to a Tablet PC. If anyone has time to answer the
>following question it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> 1. Can Windows XP (TabletPC) and Windows CE6 exist on the same (Tablet PC)
> system?
> 2. Do I need to format the target (Tablet PC) a particular way?
> 3. Does the Platform Builder Boot Disk Utility add unilities to allow the
> transfer over USB?
> 4. How can I download the OS Image if my target (Tablet PC) doesn't have a
> FDD?
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone who answers this post.
>
> Regards,
> Brian K. Williams
>
>
>

ctacke/>
Tue Sep 25 16:27:33 CDT 2007

> 1. Can Windows XP (TabletPC) and Windows CE6 exist on the same (Tablet PC)
> system?

"Exist" in what sense? They can't run at the same time, but you can have XP
of the HDD and load CE from an external source into RAM without affecting
it.

> 2. Do I need to format the target (Tablet PC) a particular way?

Depends on how you intend to load CE.

> 3. Does the Platform Builder Boot Disk Utility add unilities to allow the
> transfer over USB?

If the device BIOS supports booting from USB, you can use it.

> 4. How can I download the OS Image if my target (Tablet PC) doesn't have a
> FDD?

Again, if the BIOS supports boot from USB (most do nowdays) then you can
make a USB disk DOS bootable then put loadcepc.exe on it and boot the device
that way.


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Valter
Tue Sep 25 16:36:58 CDT 2007

"Brian K. Williams" <williamsb@xgentracker.com> wrote in
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[...]
> 1. Can Windows XP (TabletPC) and Windows CE6 exist on the same
> (Tablet PC) system?

You can keep them on different partitions.

> 2. Do I need to format the target (Tablet PC) a particular way?

CE can use FAT or FAT32 or exFAT. If you want to use the bootloaders
provided with the CEPC BSP you'll have to use FAT.

> 3. Does the Platform Builder Boot Disk Utility add unilities to
> allow the transfer over USB?

No, and I suppose that the Tablet PC has a USB host controller and not
a device controller.

> 4. How can I download the OS Image if my target (Tablet PC)
> doesn't have a FDD?

You can transfer the floppy contents to a bootable USB disk (hard
driver or flashdisk) or to a ISO bootable CD rom.
You can include also the OS image, but you won't be able to debug it.
To debug the image you need an ethernet card or a serial port.
The default bootloader supports only some ISA and PCI network cards
(NE2000, RTL8139, some 3com cards etc.) and no PCMCIA.


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Brian
Wed Sep 26 09:50:50 CDT 2007

Thanks for the reply this helps... One more question if you don't mind.

Where is the OS Image located, it it everything under the
RelDir\CEPC_x86_Release or RelDir\CEPC_x86_Debug folder and can you point me
to instructions on moving it manualy from a CD and making it boot?

Thanks again.
Brian K. Williams

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> "Brian K. Williams" <williamsb@xgentracker.com> wrote in
> news:eqpAJd6$HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
> [...]
>> 1. Can Windows XP (TabletPC) and Windows CE6 exist on the same
>> (Tablet PC) system?
>
> You can keep them on different partitions.
>
>> 2. Do I need to format the target (Tablet PC) a particular way?
>
> CE can use FAT or FAT32 or exFAT. If you want to use the bootloaders
> provided with the CEPC BSP you'll have to use FAT.
>
>> 3. Does the Platform Builder Boot Disk Utility add unilities to
>> allow the transfer over USB?
>
> No, and I suppose that the Tablet PC has a USB host controller and not
> a device controller.
>
>> 4. How can I download the OS Image if my target (Tablet PC)
>> doesn't have a FDD?
>
> You can transfer the floppy contents to a bootable USB disk (hard
> driver or flashdisk) or to a ISO bootable CD rom.
> You can include also the OS image, but you won't be able to debug it.
> To debug the image you need an ethernet card or a serial port.
> The default bootloader supports only some ISA and PCI network cards
> (NE2000, RTL8139, some 3com cards etc.) and no PCMCIA.
>
>
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> Valter Minute
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Valter
Wed Sep 26 09:59:43 CDT 2007

"Brian K. Williams" <williamsb@xgentracker.com> wrote in
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> Thanks for the reply this helps... One more question if you don't
> mind.
>
> Where is the OS Image located, it it everything under the
> RelDir\CEPC_x86_Release or RelDir\CEPC_x86_Debug folder and can
> you point me to instructions on moving it manualy from a CD and
> making it boot?

To boot a CEPC image you need the nk.bin file and a bootloader.
You can find a dos-based loader under \PLATFORM\CEPC (loadcepc).
If you can boot dos from the CD, then you can execute loadcepc to
start your nk.bin.
You'll find also eboot.bin that will allow you to download via
ethernet an image and debug it using platform builder.
sboot.bin will allow you to boot and debug using a (slow) serial
connection.

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