Why can't I place the "Categorize" command on the quick access toolbar?

hi there,

I need to place the "Categorize" command onto the quick access toolbar of a
message form (IPM.note) because I need to set categories during creation of
an email message (I am using rules on outgoing messages).

while I am able to add the "Categorize" command on virtually any other form
(create/read appointment, create/read task, etc), I do not find the
"Categorize" command (CategorizeMenu) to be added when I create an email
message. is this possible anyway?

this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to any type of form
(except send email): http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-01.jpg
this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to a create new email
message form: http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-07.jpg



I did a workaround with a macro (and also have the "Message Options"
command), but I'd rather liked to have the "Categorize" menu button on the
quick access toolbar.

while we are at it, even with the macro, I can't see the applied category
during message creation. in every other form, I can see the category
immediately in a bar between ribbon and quick access toolbar. can I enable
this as well?

thanks

dan

John
Fri May 09 22:26:57 PDT 2008

Looks to me like when you have "Categorize" in the list you are using
Outlook 2007 but when you are composing an Email you are actually using Word
2007 as your editor and it does not have "Categorize".

John G.

"Dan" <nospamgonzzo@nospamgmx.li> wrote in message
news:%23XmpsVcsIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> hi there,
>
> I need to place the "Categorize" command onto the quick access toolbar of
> a message form (IPM.note) because I need to set categories during creation
> of an email message (I am using rules on outgoing messages).
>
> while I am able to add the "Categorize" command on virtually any other
> form (create/read appointment, create/read task, etc), I do not find the
> "Categorize" command (CategorizeMenu) to be added when I create an email
> message. is this possible anyway?
>
> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to any type of form
> (except send email): http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-01.jpg
> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to a create new
> email message form: http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-07.jpg
>
>
>
> I did a workaround with a macro (and also have the "Message Options"
> command), but I'd rather liked to have the "Categorize" menu button on the
> quick access toolbar.
>
> while we are at it, even with the macro, I can't see the applied category
> during message creation. in every other form, I can see the category
> immediately in a bar between ribbon and quick access toolbar. can I enable
> this as well?
>
> thanks
>
> dan
>
>

Dan
Fri May 09 23:41:05 PDT 2008

thanks john.
based on your remark I browsed the web. seems I have to live with this.
I was not that aware of word not being 100% word in outlook 2007.
anyway. thanks
dan

"John G" <green@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:eFxO05lsIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Looks to me like when you have "Categorize" in the list you are using
> Outlook 2007 but when you are composing an Email you are actually using
> Word 2007 as your editor and it does not have "Categorize".
>
> John G.

Michael
Fri May 09 23:47:58 PDT 2008



I assume that's because in OL07 it's not expected you want to send
categories. (And it doesn't without adding an entry to the registry.)

--
Best regards
Michael Bauer - MVP Outlook

: Outlook Categories? Category Manager Is Your Tool:
: <http://www.vboffice.net/product.html?pub=6&lang=en>


Am Fri, 9 May 2008 13:11:11 +0200 schrieb Dan:

> hi there,
>
> I need to place the "Categorize" command onto the quick access toolbar of
a
> message form (IPM.note) because I need to set categories during creation
of
> an email message (I am using rules on outgoing messages).
>
> while I am able to add the "Categorize" command on virtually any other
form
> (create/read appointment, create/read task, etc), I do not find the
> "Categorize" command (CategorizeMenu) to be added when I create an email
> message. is this possible anyway?
>
> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to any type of form
> (except send email): http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-01.jpg
> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to a create new
email
> message form: http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-07.jpg
>
>
>
> I did a workaround with a macro (and also have the "Message Options"
> command), but I'd rather liked to have the "Categorize" menu button on the
> quick access toolbar.
>
> while we are at it, even with the macro, I can't see the applied category
> during message creation. in every other form, I can see the category
> immediately in a bar between ribbon and quick access toolbar. can I enable
> this as well?
>
> thanks
>
> dan

Michael
Sat May 10 03:48:53 PDT 2008



Dan with a third-party tool you don't have to live with that. Category
Manager adds a sidebar with your categories; that works also for outgoing
emails. For details and the download see the link in my signature, please.

--
Best regards
Michael Bauer - MVP Outlook

: Outlook Categories? Category Manager Is Your Tool:
: <http://www.vboffice.net/product.html?pub=6&lang=en>


Am Sat, 10 May 2008 08:41:05 +0200 schrieb Dan:

> thanks john.
> based on your remark I browsed the web. seems I have to live with this.
> I was not that aware of word not being 100% word in outlook 2007.
> anyway. thanks
> dan
>
> "John G" <green@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:eFxO05lsIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Looks to me like when you have "Categorize" in the list you are using
>> Outlook 2007 but when you are composing an Email you are actually using
>> Word 2007 as your editor and it does not have "Categorize".
>>
>> John G.

Diane
Sun May 11 06:53:08 PDT 2008

You can't send categories on outgoing email. See if Category Manager meets
your needs - it will bring the categories to the forefront so you won't
forget.
http://www.vboffice.net/product.html?pub=6&lang=en



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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
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"Dan" <nospamgonzzo@nospamgmx.li> wrote in message
news:#XmpsVcsIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> hi there,
>
> I need to place the "Categorize" command onto the quick access toolbar of
> a message form (IPM.note) because I need to set categories during creation
> of an email message (I am using rules on outgoing messages).
>
> while I am able to add the "Categorize" command on virtually any other
> form (create/read appointment, create/read task, etc), I do not find the
> "Categorize" command (CategorizeMenu) to be added when I create an email
> message. is this possible anyway?
>
> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to any type of form
> (except send email): http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-01.jpg
> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to a create new
> email message form: http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-07.jpg
>
>
>
> I did a workaround with a macro (and also have the "Message Options"
> command), but I'd rather liked to have the "Categorize" menu button on the
> quick access toolbar.
>
> while we are at it, even with the macro, I can't see the applied category
> during message creation. in every other form, I can see the category
> immediately in a bar between ribbon and quick access toolbar. can I enable
> this as well?
>
> thanks
>
> dan
>
>

Dan
Sun May 11 14:00:45 PDT 2008

to say the truth.. I do something very simple.

I am using a rule on all outgoing messages.. the one that hold back the
immerdiate sending of the message. I wait 1 minute before it is actually
leaving the outbox... except... if that category flag "Urgent" is set (this
is NOT the urgent flag anyone can set over the message options).

I do not really want to send out categories...

anyway, I solved the thing by writing a short macro. it would just have been
convenient to see it work the same like with meeting requests and such..
where "Categorize" works and I can actually see what category was assigned..

never mind. the macro solution is good enough.

thanks to all

dan


"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" <outlookmvp@msn.net> wrote in message
news:EC715CF3-4732-4764-8A9E-656B617A1EC2@microsoft.com...
> You can't send categories on outgoing email. See if Category Manager meets
> your needs - it will bring the categories to the forefront so you won't
> forget.
> http://www.vboffice.net/product.html?pub=6&lang=en
>
>
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>
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>
>
> "Dan" <nospamgonzzo@nospamgmx.li> wrote in message
> news:#XmpsVcsIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> hi there,
>>
>> I need to place the "Categorize" command onto the quick access toolbar of
>> a message form (IPM.note) because I need to set categories during
>> creation of an email message (I am using rules on outgoing messages).
>>
>> while I am able to add the "Categorize" command on virtually any other
>> form (create/read appointment, create/read task, etc), I do not find the
>> "Categorize" command (CategorizeMenu) to be added when I create an email
>> message. is this possible anyway?
>>
>> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to any type of
>> form (except send email): http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-01.jpg
>> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to a create new
>> email message form: http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-07.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> I did a workaround with a macro (and also have the "Message Options"
>> command), but I'd rather liked to have the "Categorize" menu button on
>> the quick access toolbar.
>>
>> while we are at it, even with the macro, I can't see the applied category
>> during message creation. in every other form, I can see the category
>> immediately in a bar between ribbon and quick access toolbar. can I
>> enable this as well?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> dan
>>
>>

Dan
Sun May 11 13:59:58 PDT 2008

to say the truth.. I do something very simple.

I am using a rule on all outgoing messages.. the one that hold back the
immerdiate sending of the message. I wait 1 minute before it is actually
leaving the outbox... except... if that category flag "Urgent" is set (this
is NOT the urgent flag anyone can set over the message options).

I do not really want to send out categories...

anyway, I solved the thing by writing a short macro. it would just have been
convenient to see it work the same like with meeting requests and such..
where "Categorize" works and i can actually see what category was assigned..

dan


"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" <outlookmvp@msn.net> wrote in message
news:EC715CF3-4732-4764-8A9E-656B617A1EC2@microsoft.com...
> You can't send categories on outgoing email. See if Category Manager meets
> your needs - it will bring the categories to the forefront so you won't
> forget.
> http://www.vboffice.net/product.html?pub=6&lang=en
>
>
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>
> Outlook Tips by email:
> dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net
>
> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
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> Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
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>
>
>
> "Dan" <nospamgonzzo@nospamgmx.li> wrote in message
> news:#XmpsVcsIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> hi there,
>>
>> I need to place the "Categorize" command onto the quick access toolbar of
>> a message form (IPM.note) because I need to set categories during
>> creation of an email message (I am using rules on outgoing messages).
>>
>> while I am able to add the "Categorize" command on virtually any other
>> form (create/read appointment, create/read task, etc), I do not find the
>> "Categorize" command (CategorizeMenu) to be added when I create an email
>> message. is this possible anyway?
>>
>> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to any type of
>> form (except send email): http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-01.jpg
>> this is how it looks like when I try to add Categorize to a create new
>> email message form: http://smilebear.info/pics/S-080509-07.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> I did a workaround with a macro (and also have the "Message Options"
>> command), but I'd rather liked to have the "Categorize" menu button on
>> the quick access toolbar.
>>
>> while we are at it, even with the macro, I can't see the applied category
>> during message creation. in every other form, I can see the category
>> immediately in a bar between ribbon and quick access toolbar. can I
>> enable this as well?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> dan
>>
>>