Forgive the cross post, but am unsure where to go here.

I have three computers on my home LAN, two 2000's and 1 XP.

Both 2000's can see and share all three machines. Yet the XP can only see
one of the 2000s, not the other. Yet the 2000 that the XP cannot see, can
see the XP and it's shared drives.

It's like a one-way network.

Can anyone give me a little guidance as to what they think I need to look
at/change so my XP (desk) can see that 2000 (hidden behind some furniture
and uncomfortable to work from)?

Many thanks ahead, as always.

Re: On home network 2000 sees all, XP doesn't by Phillip

Phillip
Fri May 16 08:36:32 PDT 2008

Network Places is just a "browse list",...it has nothing to do with "seeing"
anything. If it is not on the List you won't see it but may still be able
to connect to it,...also by the same token something can be on the
List,..you may see it listed,...but may not be able to connect to it.
Bottom line,...Network Places showing or not showing something has no real
bearing on if you can actually connect to something or not. It is a
"convenience tool" only, and is called Network Browsing (not to be confused
with Internet Browsing).

From the Run Line,...Type two backslashes followed by the name of the
machine you want to access. It will come up in Explorer. Drag the Icon in
the Explorer address bar to the desktop (or where ever you want it). Now
you have a Shortcut to the Machine,..use it to access the machine. Repeat
this with other machines.

To solve the Network Places thing,...here's all the exciting stuff for that.
Keep in mind that you are dealing with a Workgroup,...not a Domain,...the
browsing system works differently between the two,....you can have a Master
Browser but you cannot have a Domain Master Browser and you do not have a
Domain Controller or a PDC,...keep things in the proper context when reading
about this stuff.

188305 - Troubleshooting the Microsoft Computer Browser Service
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188305


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or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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"Daniel Kaplan" <NoSPam@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> Forgive the cross post, but am unsure where to go here.
>
> I have three computers on my home LAN, two 2000's and 1 XP.
>
> Both 2000's can see and share all three machines. Yet the XP can only see
> one of the 2000s, not the other. Yet the 2000 that the XP cannot see, can
> see the XP and it's shared drives.
>
> It's like a one-way network.
>
> Can anyone give me a little guidance as to what they think I need to look
> at/change so my XP (desk) can see that 2000 (hidden behind some furniture
> and uncomfortable to work from)?
>
> Many thanks ahead, as always.
>



Re: On home network 2000 sees all, XP doesn't by Daniel

Daniel
Fri May 16 12:11:57 PDT 2008


"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uh7Omq2tIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> From the Run Line,...Type two backslashes followed by the name of the
> machine you want to access. It will come up in Explorer. Drag the Icon
> in the Explorer address bar to the desktop (or where ever you want it).
> Now you have a Shortcut to the Machine,..use it to access the machine.
> Repeat this with other machines.
>
> 188305 - Troubleshooting the Microsoft Computer Browser Service
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188305

Browstat, not on any of my machines.

I tried accessing the 2000 machine from the XP by "Run" \\Backup .....did
not work
So then I accessed the XP from the 2000 machine, and then "Run" \\Backup DID
work.

Any idea what gives there?



Re: On home network 2000 sees all, XP doesn't by Phillip

Phillip
Fri May 16 13:32:39 PDT 2008

"Daniel Kaplan" <NoSPam@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> I tried accessing the 2000 machine from the XP by "Run" \\Backup .....did
> not work
> So then I accessed the XP from the 2000 machine, and then "Run" \\Backup
> DID work.

1. They can't both be called "Backup"

2. You may have Sharing turned off on the 2000 machine,...I don't know.

There are a lot of things that can be wrong and I don't remember my way
around 2000 that well and I pretty much never mess with Workgroup situations
and the little "oddities" that plague them. So someone else may have to
jump in with ideas concerning that.

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www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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Re: On home network 2000 sees all, XP doesn't by Daniel

Daniel
Fri May 16 14:15:11 PDT 2008

"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OfdbMQ5tIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Daniel Kaplan" <NoSPam@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:1210965114.777313@nntp.acecape.com...
>
>> I tried accessing the 2000 machine from the XP by "Run" \\Backup .....did
>> not work
>> So then I accessed the XP from the 2000 machine, and then "Run" \\Backup
>> DID work.
>
> 1. They can't both be called "Backup"
>
> 2. You may have Sharing turned off on the 2000 machine,...I don't know.
>
No they are not both called backup, but both have the same name for
"Workgroup".

As I said, once I looked into the XP, from the 2000 machine, then the XP
machine was able to log into the 2000 machine. Like some weird disemination
problem.



Re: On home network 2000 sees all, XP doesn't by Chuck

Chuck
Fri May 16 15:01:18 PDT 2008

On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:13:38 -0400, "Daniel Kaplan" <NoSPam@NoSpam.com> wrote:

>Forgive the cross post, but am unsure where to go here.
>
>I have three computers on my home LAN, two 2000's and 1 XP.
>
>Both 2000's can see and share all three machines. Yet the XP can only see
>one of the 2000s, not the other. Yet the 2000 that the XP cannot see, can
>see the XP and it's shared drives.
>
>It's like a one-way network.
>
>Can anyone give me a little guidance as to what they think I need to look
>at/change so my XP (desk) can see that 2000 (hidden behind some furniture
>and uncomfortable to work from)?
>
>Many thanks ahead, as always.

Diagnose the problem, using logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net
config server", and "net config workstation", from each computer. Read this
article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (Download
browstat, per instructions.):
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/

Re: On home network 2000 sees all, XP doesn't by Phillip

Phillip
Mon May 19 06:52:51 PDT 2008

"Daniel Kaplan" <NoSPam@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OfdbMQ5tIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Daniel Kaplan" <NoSPam@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:1210965114.777313@nntp.acecape.com...
>>
>>> I tried accessing the 2000 machine from the XP by "Run" \\Backup
>>> .....did not work
>>> So then I accessed the XP from the 2000 machine, and then "Run" \\Backup
>>> DID work.
>>
>> 1. They can't both be called "Backup"
>>
>> 2. You may have Sharing turned off on the 2000 machine,...I don't know.
>>
> No they are not both called backup, but both have the same name for
> "Workgroup".
>
> As I said, once I looked into the XP, from the 2000 machine, then the XP
> machine was able to log into the 2000 machine. Like some weird
> disemination problem.

You don't use the Workgroup name in the UNC path.

From XP machine \\win2k-machinename
From Win2k machine \\XP-machinename

or

From XP machine \\win2k-IP#
From Win2k machine \\XP-IP#

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Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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