PapaJohn
Mon May 16 10:23:13 CDT 2005
Hi Graham,
I'm thinking that he's starting with a low-end system.... here's a quote
from one website: "10/7/03 - Dell's Inspiron 1100 budget desktop replacement
is probably one of the oldest systems available for under $1000 and its
components show that age." and the user has moved from WMV to DV-AVI, which
is a pretty big setup in system demands to play smoothly.
.... and the hard drive gets more fragmented over time unless it's tuned up.
That's why a think rendering and playing a small pocket PC WMV file is the
only way to tell if all the info is in the DV-AVI file.
--
PapaJohn
Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
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"Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@dvds2treasure.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23qg1QEgWFHA.1384@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I'm also thinking maybe checking for codec interference, directx update,
> poor pc specs, other apps conflicting when capturing, poor hdd
> performance...
> What do you think Papajohn?
>
> --
> Graham Hughes
> MVP Digital Media
> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
> www.dvds2treasure.com
> www.simplydv.com
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> news:ekbIgdbWFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> You didn't mention the last part of the test.... once it's on the
>> storyboard, save it as a WMV file ... use a pocket PC choice,.. and see
>> if it plays OK...
>>
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> .
>> "JM" <JM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4E199907-1D6B-4384-BFDA-37C0DF93C403@microsoft.com...
>>> I'm still having alot of trouble with everything. Maybe I should be more
>>> explicit:
>>>
>>> First, I started capturing my film (from a Samsung SCD303 DV camcorder)
>>> to
>>> MM2, saving them onto my computer as wmvs. This worked ok at times,
>>> actually
>>> smoother than avis, but when I would try to make a movie and play it
>>> back, it
>>> would stagger and skip frames, but not audio. When I would save it onto
>>> a
>>> data cd using Nero Startsmart, it took 120 minutes to make a 50 minute
>>> film,l
>>> and when I played it on the tv, it was low quality.
>>>
>>> So I decided to capture some footage on avi, in hopes that I could
>>> capture
>>> 10 minutes at a time and record it to a dv tape. When I would capture
>>> the
>>> footage as avis and play them back using WMP, the footage played too
>>> quickly
>>> but the audio was ok. Also, when I played it on WMP in full screen mode,
>>> the
>>> avi looked low quality.
>>>
>>> I also downloaded TMPEGEn to convert wmv to mpeg and burned it onto a
>>> data
>>> disc. No improvements visually, the same as a wmv.
>>>
>>> Then I did as you suggested and downloaded WinDV, recorded a one-minute
>>> clip, played it back, and it played slower (a good thing) but frames
>>> skipped.
>>>
>>> Lastly, I took that same clip, put it through MM on the storyboard, and
>>> played it, and it staggered and skipped frames much more, and it played
>>> too
>>> slow this time.
>>>
>>> So this is a bit frustrating for me. I'm just not well informed about
>>> all of
>>> this. Would appreciate pointing me in the right direction in more
>>> laymen's
>>> terms. Thanks alot.
>>>
>>> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>>>
>>>> playback of a DV-AVI file is hard for a computer too... the best test
>>>> is to
>>>> take that one minute file and run it through MM2 to a small sized WMV
>>>> file... then assess the WMV for completeness and smoothness.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> PapaJohn
>>>>
>>>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>>>> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>>>> ..
>>>> "JM" <JM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:B9C09CC6-32FE-4EC7-8FE0-9582A5CA536A@microsoft.com...
>>>> > Ok I downloaded WinDV and captured about a minute of avi footage for
>>>> > test.
>>>> > I
>>>> > played it back on WMP and the speed is ok but there are video
>>>> > "hiccups",
>>>> > like
>>>> > it's staggering or frames are missing. I recorded the original
>>>> > footage in
>>>> > SP
>>>> > mode, 1 hour per tape so it's good quality. I have yet to have a
>>>> > smooth
>>>> > experience recording footage from my dv though.
>>>> >
>>>> > "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> did you record them in standard play speed of 1 hour per tape, or
>>>> >> extended
>>>> >> play?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> do a test capture with the WinDV utility and see if you have the
>>>> >> same
>>>> >> results... link on my Setup > Other Software page.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> PapaJohn
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>>>> >> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>>>> >> ..
>>>> >> "JM" <JM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:6E1E6404-87F0-4304-94BA-62D9E0A15808@microsoft.com...
>>>> >> > I'm sorry, like I said I am new to this, so reading your site I
>>>> >> > got
>>>> >> > pretty
>>>> >> > confused - it looks very informative but I just don't get the
>>>> >> > terminology.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > What I need to know is, how can I record avi's so that they are
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > same
>>>> >> > speed as what you see in the camcorder? I don't have an issue with
>>>> >> > this
>>>> >> > when
>>>> >> > I record wmvs for my computer, but then if I do that, then the
>>>> >> > quality
>>>> >> > of
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > video doesn't look acceptable when I burn it on to a data cd-r and
>>>> >> > play
>>>> >> > it
>>>> >> > on
>>>> >> > my tv. That is why I want to record avi's onto a dv tape, so that
>>>> >> > I
>>>> >> > basically
>>>> >> > have edited versions of the 6+ hours of footage that I took.
>>>> >> > Please
>>>> >> > helP!
>>>> >> > Thx.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Check the Problem Solving > Audio Issues page of www.papajohn.org
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> PapaJohn
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>>>> >> >> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>>>> >> >> ..
>>>> >> >> "JM" <JM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> news:8B642C08-C1EB-4A60-B82A-8C479C22BDAF@microsoft.com...
>>>> >> >> >I have a Dell Inspiron 1100, using a Samsung SCD303 camcorder
>>>> >> >> >(DV),
>>>> >> >> >and
>>>> >> >> >using
>>>> >> >> > the latest MM version. Capturing via firewire.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Thanks for help.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> what is your model number, and are you capturing via firewire
>>>> >> >> >> or
>>>> >> >> >> USB?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> >> PapaJohn
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>>>> >> >> >> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>>>> >> >> >> ..
>>>> >> >> >> "JM" <JM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> >> news:9262890F-F887-49AF-8C90-D5EED21EA380@microsoft.com...
>>>> >> >> >> > Hi,
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > I'm very new with all this stuff, I'm having issues
>>>> >> >> >> > recording
>>>> >> >> >> > AVIs.
>>>> >> >> >> > I
>>>> >> >> >> > am
>>>> >> >> >> > capturing film from my Samsung DV camcorder onto MM as avi
>>>> >> >> >> > footage,
>>>> >> >> >> > but
>>>> >> >> >> > when
>>>> >> >> >> > I play it back, the video goes too fast. All I want to do is
>>>> >> >> >> > edit
>>>> >> >> >> > my
>>>> >> >> >> > videos
>>>> >> >> >> > and then burn the edited footage back to a dv tape through
>>>> >> >> >> > my
>>>> >> >> >> > camcorder.
>>>> >> >> >> > I've
>>>> >> >> >> > done a search in this newsgroup under "Avi speed" but
>>>> >> >> >> > couldn't
>>>> >> >> >> > find
>>>> >> >> >> > anything.
>>>> >> >> >> > Can anyone tell me how I can capture the video so that it
>>>> >> >> >> > plays
>>>> >> >> >> > back
>>>> >> >> >> > in
>>>> >> >> >> > "real
>>>> >> >> >> > time"?
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Thanks
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