Jerry,

All I am trying to do, as I explained, is put six hours of low-
quality video on a DVD and play it in a DVD player, with a menu
to allow selection of up to 14 different segments.

I'm sure I've seen references to doing this, but I have not been
successful in finding the references again.

You said I should review the help files. MyDVD speaks to the
fact that up to 440 minutes of MPEG-1 can be recorded to a DVD if
Dolby Audio is used and not transcoded. However there doesn't seem
to be a way to do that if the source file is .wmv format.

Cari said to burn as a data DVD to test the player. How do I get
a menu to work with the DVD player if all I do is burn an MPEG-1
file as data? What is the required DVD file structure?

The convert query at videohelp.com doesn't find any answers for
the WMV to MPG conversion selection.

Jay




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:29:08 -0700
From: Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker

If you don't understand what Cari said then you had better re-read the help
files for your DVD burner software - or forget trying to do whatever it is
you're tring to do as what was said is understandable.



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:52:34 -0700
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker

Cari,

I appreciate your response. Now, would someone please explain what
Cari said? I don't have a clue what to do based on Cari's reply.

Also, www.videohelp.com is a great resource, I refer to it a lot.
But just that generic reference doesn't give me any help toward my
goal. I don't know where to go at that site to find the answer I
seek, so I asked here for guidance.

Jay



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:52:00 -0700
From: Cari (MS-MVP) <Newsgroups1@coribright.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker

If you have a DVD player that plays MPEG files, re-encode them as MPEG1
files and you can fit 4 or 5 hours on one DVD.... you do not burn them as a
Video DVD, but as a Data DVD. But make sure your DVD standalone can cope
first.

Check at www.videohelp.com
- -
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:07:13 -0700
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker

I have an old VHS tape, recorded in 6-hr mode in 1983, with
14 episodes of 20-25 minutes each. Using a Canopus ADVC-100
to convert the VCR output to firewire input to the computer,
I've made .wmv files of each of the 14 episodes, and edited
in a title to each one using moviemaker. I've saved them in
the "Video for LAN" 768Kbps .wmv format which is 640x480;
the .wmv files range in size from 105 to 153MB, totalling
less than 2GB.

The .wmv files play fine using Windows media player; the
quality is just as "good" as what is recorded on the old VHS
tape. Using MyDVD, I've burned DVDs, each with a maximum of
three episodes on the DVD, with a menu for selecting the
episode to view. They play fine in a DVD player. The problem
is that it takes five DVDs.

How can I put the 6 hours of video, the 14 .wmv files, on
one DVD (or two DVDs), with menu selections, that can be
played in the DVD player? Video quality isn't an issue,
given the available source.

I'm not locked in to MyDVD; I just happen to have it, and it
works as described.

Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, CA

Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD? by dickmr

dickmr
Sun Sep 25 14:22:03 CDT 2005

Jay....I use AVS Converter all the time, and I note that one of the choices
is to burn a 4 hour DVD, but that is the longest that I know of. AVS
Converter costs $29.95, but you can convert between all the formats and also
burn cd's and dvd's. It gives a lot of flexibility and choices. But as I
said, I note that a 4 hour dvd is the lowest quality it will let you burn to.
Here is the website for download is you want to try it....
Good luck.

http://www.avsmedia.com/VideoConverter/index.aspx


"Jay O'Brien" wrote:

> Jerry,
>
> All I am trying to do, as I explained, is put six hours of low-
> quality video on a DVD and play it in a DVD player, with a menu
> to allow selection of up to 14 different segments.
>
> I'm sure I've seen references to doing this, but I have not been
> successful in finding the references again.
>
> You said I should review the help files. MyDVD speaks to the
> fact that up to 440 minutes of MPEG-1 can be recorded to a DVD if
> Dolby Audio is used and not transcoded. However there doesn't seem
> to be a way to do that if the source file is .wmv format.
>
> Cari said to burn as a data DVD to test the player. How do I get
> a menu to work with the DVD player if all I do is burn an MPEG-1
> file as data? What is the required DVD file structure?
>
> The convert query at videohelp.com doesn't find any answers for
> the WMV to MPG conversion selection.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:29:08 -0700
> From: Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>
> If you don't understand what Cari said then you had better re-read the help
> files for your DVD burner software - or forget trying to do whatever it is
> you're tring to do as what was said is understandable.
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:52:34 -0700
> From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>
> Cari,
>
> I appreciate your response. Now, would someone please explain what
> Cari said? I don't have a clue what to do based on Cari's reply.
>
> Also, www.videohelp.com is a great resource, I refer to it a lot.
> But just that generic reference doesn't give me any help toward my
> goal. I don't know where to go at that site to find the answer I
> seek, so I asked here for guidance.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:52:00 -0700
> From: Cari (MS-MVP) <Newsgroups1@coribright.com>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>
> If you have a DVD player that plays MPEG files, re-encode them as MPEG1
> files and you can fit 4 or 5 hours on one DVD.... you do not burn them as a
> Video DVD, but as a Data DVD. But make sure your DVD standalone can cope
> first.
>
> Check at www.videohelp.com
> - -
> Cari (MS-MVP)
> Printing & Imaging
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:07:13 -0700
> From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>
> I have an old VHS tape, recorded in 6-hr mode in 1983, with
> 14 episodes of 20-25 minutes each. Using a Canopus ADVC-100
> to convert the VCR output to firewire input to the computer,
> I've made .wmv files of each of the 14 episodes, and edited
> in a title to each one using moviemaker. I've saved them in
> the "Video for LAN" 768Kbps .wmv format which is 640x480;
> the .wmv files range in size from 105 to 153MB, totalling
> less than 2GB.
>
> The .wmv files play fine using Windows media player; the
> quality is just as "good" as what is recorded on the old VHS
> tape. Using MyDVD, I've burned DVDs, each with a maximum of
> three episodes on the DVD, with a menu for selecting the
> episode to view. They play fine in a DVD player. The problem
> is that it takes five DVDs.
>
> How can I put the 6 hours of video, the 14 .wmv files, on
> one DVD (or two DVDs), with menu selections, that can be
> played in the DVD player? Video quality isn't an issue,
> given the available source.
>
> I'm not locked in to MyDVD; I just happen to have it, and it
> works as described.
>
> Jay O'Brien
> Rio Linda, CA
>

Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD? by Rehan

Rehan
Sun Sep 25 16:30:58 CDT 2005

I bet your dvd writer can write to a dual layer dvd... most current ones
do... So if you can afford a dual layer dvd (costs around £4 here in UK),
you should be able to fit a 8 hour dvd video on it (with appropriate
encoding bitrate). Most DVD authoring apps these days allow you to select a
choice of bitrate setting on a scale of decreasing quality (or increasing
video length). Dont worry about the quality too much as if the source video
is already low quality, re-enclding it to a higher bitrate cannot increase
its quality. So you need to find a compromise setting which is acceptable
visually.

--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker



"dickmr" <dickmr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:93D28424-F8F0-4203-88CB-3131A1589FD0@microsoft.com...
> Jay....I use AVS Converter all the time, and I note that one of the
> choices
> is to burn a 4 hour DVD, but that is the longest that I know of. AVS
> Converter costs $29.95, but you can convert between all the formats and
> also
> burn cd's and dvd's. It gives a lot of flexibility and choices. But as
> I
> said, I note that a 4 hour dvd is the lowest quality it will let you burn
> to.
> Here is the website for download is you want to try it....
> Good luck.
>
> http://www.avsmedia.com/VideoConverter/index.aspx
>
>
> "Jay O'Brien" wrote:
>
>> Jerry,
>>
>> All I am trying to do, as I explained, is put six hours of low-
>> quality video on a DVD and play it in a DVD player, with a menu
>> to allow selection of up to 14 different segments.
>>
>> I'm sure I've seen references to doing this, but I have not been
>> successful in finding the references again.
>>
>> You said I should review the help files. MyDVD speaks to the
>> fact that up to 440 minutes of MPEG-1 can be recorded to a DVD if
>> Dolby Audio is used and not transcoded. However there doesn't seem
>> to be a way to do that if the source file is .wmv format.
>>
>> Cari said to burn as a data DVD to test the player. How do I get
>> a menu to work with the DVD player if all I do is burn an MPEG-1
>> file as data? What is the required DVD file structure?
>>
>> The convert query at videohelp.com doesn't find any answers for
>> the WMV to MPG conversion selection.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:29:08 -0700
>> From: Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>>
>> If you don't understand what Cari said then you had better re-read the
>> help
>> files for your DVD burner software - or forget trying to do whatever it
>> is
>> you're tring to do as what was said is understandable.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:52:34 -0700
>> From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>>
>> Cari,
>>
>> I appreciate your response. Now, would someone please explain what
>> Cari said? I don't have a clue what to do based on Cari's reply.
>>
>> Also, www.videohelp.com is a great resource, I refer to it a lot.
>> But just that generic reference doesn't give me any help toward my
>> goal. I don't know where to go at that site to find the answer I
>> seek, so I asked here for guidance.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:52:00 -0700
>> From: Cari (MS-MVP) <Newsgroups1@coribright.com>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>>
>> If you have a DVD player that plays MPEG files, re-encode them as MPEG1
>> files and you can fit 4 or 5 hours on one DVD.... you do not burn them as
>> a
>> Video DVD, but as a Data DVD. But make sure your DVD standalone can cope
>> first.
>>
>> Check at www.videohelp.com
>> - -
>> Cari (MS-MVP)
>> Printing & Imaging
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:07:13 -0700
>> From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>>
>> I have an old VHS tape, recorded in 6-hr mode in 1983, with
>> 14 episodes of 20-25 minutes each. Using a Canopus ADVC-100
>> to convert the VCR output to firewire input to the computer,
>> I've made .wmv files of each of the 14 episodes, and edited
>> in a title to each one using moviemaker. I've saved them in
>> the "Video for LAN" 768Kbps .wmv format which is 640x480;
>> the .wmv files range in size from 105 to 153MB, totalling
>> less than 2GB.
>>
>> The .wmv files play fine using Windows media player; the
>> quality is just as "good" as what is recorded on the old VHS
>> tape. Using MyDVD, I've burned DVDs, each with a maximum of
>> three episodes on the DVD, with a menu for selecting the
>> episode to view. They play fine in a DVD player. The problem
>> is that it takes five DVDs.
>>
>> How can I put the 6 hours of video, the 14 .wmv files, on
>> one DVD (or two DVDs), with menu selections, that can be
>> played in the DVD player? Video quality isn't an issue,
>> given the available source.
>>
>> I'm not locked in to MyDVD; I just happen to have it, and it
>> works as described.
>>
>> Jay O'Brien
>> Rio Linda, CA
>>



Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD? by Jay

Jay
Tue Sep 27 09:53:59 CDT 2005

Thanks! I'll follow up on both suggestions. I really appreciate your help!

Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, Ca, USA



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:30:58 +0100
From: Rehan <someone@somewhere.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
References: <e#ZL92ZwFHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl> <93D28424-F8F0-4203-88CB-3131A1589FD0@microsoft.com>

I bet your dvd writer can write to a dual layer dvd... most current ones
do... So if you can afford a dual layer dvd (costs around £4 here in UK),
you should be able to fit a 8 hour dvd video on it (with appropriate
encoding bitrate). Most DVD authoring apps these days allow you to select a
choice of bitrate setting on a scale of decreasing quality (or increasing
video length). Dont worry about the quality too much as if the source video
is already low quality, re-enclding it to a higher bitrate cannot increase
its quality. So you need to find a compromise setting which is acceptable
visually.

--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker



"dickmr" <dickmr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:93D28424-F8F0-4203-88CB-3131A1589FD0@microsoft.com...
> Jay....I use AVS Converter all the time, and I note that one of
> the choices is to burn a 4 hour DVD, but that is the longest that
> I know of. AVS Converter costs $29.95, but you can convert
> between all the formats and also burn cd's and dvd's. It gives
> a lot of flexibility and choices. But as I said, I note that a
> 4 hour dvd is the lowest quality it will let you burn to.
> Here is the website for download is you want to try it....
> Good luck.
>
> http://www.avsmedia.com/VideoConverter/index.aspx
>
>
> "Jay O'Brien" wrote:
>
>> Jerry,
>>
>> All I am trying to do, as I explained, is put six hours of low-
>> quality video on a DVD and play it in a DVD player, with a menu
>> to allow selection of up to 14 different segments.
>>
>> I'm sure I've seen references to doing this, but I have not been
>> successful in finding the references again.
>>
>> You said I should review the help files. MyDVD speaks to the
>> fact that up to 440 minutes of MPEG-1 can be recorded to a DVD if
>> Dolby Audio is used and not transcoded. However there doesn't seem
>> to be a way to do that if the source file is .wmv format.
>>
>> Cari said to burn as a data DVD to test the player. How do I get
>> a menu to work with the DVD player if all I do is burn an MPEG-1
>> file as data? What is the required DVD file structure?
>>
>> The convert query at videohelp.com doesn't find any answers for
>> the WMV to MPG conversion selection.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:29:08 -0700
>> From: Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>>
>> If you don't understand what Cari said then you had better re-read the
>> help
>> files for your DVD burner software - or forget trying to do whatever it
>> is
>> you're tring to do as what was said is understandable.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:52:34 -0700
>> From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>>
>> Cari,
>>
>> I appreciate your response. Now, would someone please explain what
>> Cari said? I don't have a clue what to do based on Cari's reply.
>>
>> Also, www.videohelp.com is a great resource, I refer to it a lot.
>> But just that generic reference doesn't give me any help toward my
>> goal. I don't know where to go at that site to find the answer I
>> seek, so I asked here for guidance.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:52:00 -0700
>> From: Cari (MS-MVP) <Newsgroups1@coribright.com>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>>
>> If you have a DVD player that plays MPEG files, re-encode them as MPEG1
>> files and you can fit 4 or 5 hours on one DVD.... you do not burn them as
>> a
>> Video DVD, but as a Data DVD. But make sure your DVD standalone can cope
>> first.
>>
>> Check at www.videohelp.com
>> - -
>> Cari (MS-MVP)
>> Printing & Imaging
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: six hours of .wmv on a DVD?
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:07:13 -0700
>> From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
>>
>> I have an old VHS tape, recorded in 6-hr mode in 1983, with
>> 14 episodes of 20-25 minutes each. Using a Canopus ADVC-100
>> to convert the VCR output to firewire input to the computer,
>> I've made .wmv files of each of the 14 episodes, and edited
>> in a title to each one using moviemaker. I've saved them in
>> the "Video for LAN" 768Kbps .wmv format which is 640x480;
>> the .wmv files range in size from 105 to 153MB, totalling
>> less than 2GB.
>>
>> The .wmv files play fine using Windows media player; the
>> quality is just as "good" as what is recorded on the old VHS
>> tape. Using MyDVD, I've burned DVDs, each with a maximum of
>> three episodes on the DVD, with a menu for selecting the
>> episode to view. They play fine in a DVD player. The problem
>> is that it takes five DVDs.
>>
>> How can I put the 6 hours of video, the 14 .wmv files, on
>> one DVD (or two DVDs), with menu selections, that can be
>> played in the DVD player? Video quality isn't an issue,
>> given the available source.
>>
>> I'm not locked in to MyDVD; I just happen to have it, and it
>> works as described.
>>
>> Jay O'Brien
>> Rio Linda, CA
>>