The camera is a JVC GR DVL 805 Digital movie camera. It came with a cable
that fits into the camera on 1 end and the other fits into the computer, a
fairly recently built one.

It is USB and the other is Firewire.

The thing I noticed though, is that the monitor window in MM2 shows the
images taken at night very dark, almost black, whereas on the monitor window
of the camera they were fine.

Is that attributable to MM2? The images look very normal, considering it was
taken at night, in the viewfinder and camera flip-out screen.

What might be the problem?

I am using Windows XP SP2, plenty of RAM and a separate HD for video.

Re: MM2 and dark image in observer window by Graham

Graham
Fri Dec 24 16:21:25 CST 2004

See below.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:44mdndaKB4TO_FHcRVn-og@comcast.com...
> The camera is a JVC GR DVL 805 Digital movie camera. It came with a cable
> that fits into the camera on 1 end and the other fits into the computer, a
> fairly recently built one.
>
> It is USB and the other is Firewire.
What does this bit mean, a usb cable is totally different to a firewire
cable, they cannot be interchanged or one end usb the other firewire.
Firewire is best for capturing, usb is poor and often leads to compressed
capture which could affect the quality of the movie.

>
> The thing I noticed though, is that the monitor window in MM2 shows the
> images taken at night very dark, almost black, whereas on the monitor
window
> of the camera they were fine.

It may depend on the brightness of the cam screen and how well set up the pc
monitor is.

>
> Is that attributable to MM2? The images look very normal, considering it
was
> taken at night, in the viewfinder and camera flip-out screen.

It will capture whatever is on the tape if you use firewire, so shouldn't
make a difference to what you capture, but it may just appear darker on
screen.

>
> What might be the problem?
>
> I am using Windows XP SP2, plenty of RAM and a separate HD for video.

Try connecting the cam to a tv and watch it on that. Also export the same
video back from pc to cam and watch that on the tv, it should be the same
result as the first. If both the same then all is ok, if both dark then the
cam screen shows up as being lighter than what is recorded and you need to
compensate for this yourself in how you record or adjust the brightness of
the cam lcd screen. If they both show up light, as you felt was recorded,
then the pc monitor may need adjusting or you may need to compensate for how
MM shows your movie in the preview screen, which is just a "preview" screen.

How does normal daylight video show up? Darker? Lighter? the same?
>
>
>



Re: MM2 and dark image in observer window by Ritter197

Ritter197
Fri Dec 24 21:43:50 CST 2004

Below where and what?

Seems to be just a commercial site

"Graham Hughes" <graham@simplydv.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eEpHobg6EHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> See below.
>
> --
> Graham Hughes
> MVP Digital Media
> www.dvds2treasure.com
> www.simplydv.com
>
>
> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:44mdndaKB4TO_FHcRVn-og@comcast.com...
>> The camera is a JVC GR DVL 805 Digital movie camera. It came with a
>> cable
>> that fits into the camera on 1 end and the other fits into the computer,
>> a
>> fairly recently built one.
>>
>> It is USB and the other is Firewire.
> What does this bit mean, a usb cable is totally different to a firewire
> cable, they cannot be interchanged or one end usb the other firewire.
> Firewire is best for capturing, usb is poor and often leads to compressed
> capture which could affect the quality of the movie.
>
>>
>> The thing I noticed though, is that the monitor window in MM2 shows the
>> images taken at night very dark, almost black, whereas on the monitor
> window
>> of the camera they were fine.
>
> It may depend on the brightness of the cam screen and how well set up the
> pc
> monitor is.
>
>>
>> Is that attributable to MM2? The images look very normal, considering it
> was
>> taken at night, in the viewfinder and camera flip-out screen.
>
> It will capture whatever is on the tape if you use firewire, so shouldn't
> make a difference to what you capture, but it may just appear darker on
> screen.
>
>>
>> What might be the problem?
>>
>> I am using Windows XP SP2, plenty of RAM and a separate HD for video.
>
> Try connecting the cam to a tv and watch it on that. Also export the same
> video back from pc to cam and watch that on the tv, it should be the same
> result as the first. If both the same then all is ok, if both dark then
> the
> cam screen shows up as being lighter than what is recorded and you need to
> compensate for this yourself in how you record or adjust the brightness of
> the cam lcd screen. If they both show up light, as you felt was recorded,
> then the pc monitor may need adjusting or you may need to compensate for
> how
> MM shows your movie in the preview screen, which is just a "preview"
> screen.
>
> How does normal daylight video show up? Darker? Lighter? the same?
>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: MM2 and dark image in observer window by PapaJohn

PapaJohn
Fri Dec 24 22:13:52 CST 2004

Graham meant that he made comments after each of your questions.... he
didn't mean the websites under his name

--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
Photo Story 3 - use the menu branch at www.papajohn.org

.
"Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ftidne8qCqRrfFHcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> Below where and what?
>
> Seems to be just a commercial site
>
> "Graham Hughes" <graham@simplydv.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:eEpHobg6EHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> See below.
>>
>> --
>> Graham Hughes
>> MVP Digital Media
>> www.dvds2treasure.com
>> www.simplydv.com
>>
>>
>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:44mdndaKB4TO_FHcRVn-og@comcast.com...
>>> The camera is a JVC GR DVL 805 Digital movie camera. It came with a
>>> cable
>>> that fits into the camera on 1 end and the other fits into the computer,
>>> a
>>> fairly recently built one.
>>>
>>> It is USB and the other is Firewire.
>> What does this bit mean, a usb cable is totally different to a firewire
>> cable, they cannot be interchanged or one end usb the other firewire.
>> Firewire is best for capturing, usb is poor and often leads to compressed
>> capture which could affect the quality of the movie.
>>
>>>
>>> The thing I noticed though, is that the monitor window in MM2 shows the
>>> images taken at night very dark, almost black, whereas on the monitor
>> window
>>> of the camera they were fine.
>>
>> It may depend on the brightness of the cam screen and how well set up the
>> pc
>> monitor is.
>>
>>>
>>> Is that attributable to MM2? The images look very normal, considering it
>> was
>>> taken at night, in the viewfinder and camera flip-out screen.
>>
>> It will capture whatever is on the tape if you use firewire, so shouldn't
>> make a difference to what you capture, but it may just appear darker on
>> screen.
>>
>>>
>>> What might be the problem?
>>>
>>> I am using Windows XP SP2, plenty of RAM and a separate HD for video.
>>
>> Try connecting the cam to a tv and watch it on that. Also export the same
>> video back from pc to cam and watch that on the tv, it should be the same
>> result as the first. If both the same then all is ok, if both dark then
>> the
>> cam screen shows up as being lighter than what is recorded and you need
>> to
>> compensate for this yourself in how you record or adjust the brightness
>> of
>> the cam lcd screen. If they both show up light, as you felt was recorded,
>> then the pc monitor may need adjusting or you may need to compensate for
>> how
>> MM shows your movie in the preview screen, which is just a "preview"
>> screen.
>>
>> How does normal daylight video show up? Darker? Lighter? the same?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: MM2 and dark image in observer window by Ritter197

Ritter197
Sat Dec 25 08:35:41 CST 2004

I must have not seen them, because it just said "see below" and I saw only
the 2 commercial sites in hyperlink.

BUT _ I do really appreciate your comments and your excellent websites. I
have entered them under My Favourites and study them in detail.

Have a nice Christmas

Karl
"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:%23zEumgj6EHA.2584@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Graham meant that he made comments after each of your questions.... he
> didn't mean the websites under his name
>
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 3 - use the menu branch at www.papajohn.org
>
> .
> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ftidne8qCqRrfFHcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>> Below where and what?
>>
>> Seems to be just a commercial site
>>
>> "Graham Hughes" <graham@simplydv.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:eEpHobg6EHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> See below.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Graham Hughes
>>> MVP Digital Media
>>> www.dvds2treasure.com
>>> www.simplydv.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:44mdndaKB4TO_FHcRVn-og@comcast.com...
>>>> The camera is a JVC GR DVL 805 Digital movie camera. It came with a
>>>> cable
>>>> that fits into the camera on 1 end and the other fits into the
>>>> computer, a
>>>> fairly recently built one.
>>>>
>>>> It is USB and the other is Firewire.
>>> What does this bit mean, a usb cable is totally different to a firewire
>>> cable, they cannot be interchanged or one end usb the other firewire.
>>> Firewire is best for capturing, usb is poor and often leads to
>>> compressed
>>> capture which could affect the quality of the movie.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The thing I noticed though, is that the monitor window in MM2 shows the
>>>> images taken at night very dark, almost black, whereas on the monitor
>>> window
>>>> of the camera they were fine.
>>>
>>> It may depend on the brightness of the cam screen and how well set up
>>> the pc
>>> monitor is.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is that attributable to MM2? The images look very normal, considering
>>>> it
>>> was
>>>> taken at night, in the viewfinder and camera flip-out screen.
>>>
>>> It will capture whatever is on the tape if you use firewire, so
>>> shouldn't
>>> make a difference to what you capture, but it may just appear darker on
>>> screen.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What might be the problem?
>>>>
>>>> I am using Windows XP SP2, plenty of RAM and a separate HD for video.
>>>
>>> Try connecting the cam to a tv and watch it on that. Also export the
>>> same
>>> video back from pc to cam and watch that on the tv, it should be the
>>> same
>>> result as the first. If both the same then all is ok, if both dark then
>>> the
>>> cam screen shows up as being lighter than what is recorded and you need
>>> to
>>> compensate for this yourself in how you record or adjust the brightness
>>> of
>>> the cam lcd screen. If they both show up light, as you felt was
>>> recorded,
>>> then the pc monitor may need adjusting or you may need to compensate for
>>> how
>>> MM shows your movie in the preview screen, which is just a "preview"
>>> screen.
>>>
>>> How does normal daylight video show up? Darker? Lighter? the same?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>