Hi there.

I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way. (The
popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved at
the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI. Then
in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final AVI--but it
loses 6 seconds).

My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do not get
that far.

An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade transitions
in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and I time
the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to synch
perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.

However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2 pass
method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter even
though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import the
silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not be so
picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If I
just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.

I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And to
make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.

Help, please if you can!

Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by Rehan

Rehan
Mon Feb 21 13:44:13 CST 2005

All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by others.
Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So you have
to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.

However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has not been
observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the movie it
would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?

My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed mode
thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls associated
with DV AVI.

You may be interested to use my custom profiles
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.



--
Rehan
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker



"FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
> Hi there.
>
> I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
> DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way.
> (The
> popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved at
> the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI.
> Then
> in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
> soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final AVI--but
> it
> loses 6 seconds).
>
> My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
> audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do not
> get
> that far.
>
> An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
> transitions
> in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and I
> time
> the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to
> synch
> perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.
>
> However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2
> pass
> method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter
> even
> though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import
> the
> silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not be
> so
> picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If I
> just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
>
> I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And to
> make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.
>
> Help, please if you can!



Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by FJK

FJK
Mon Feb 21 14:37:15 CST 2005

Thanks Rehan, I will give it a go and post back. Your transition and picture
duration workarounds have been very helpful, so thanks again for those.

I did not come across the dropped still issue in any of my searches online.
I will check it out to see if that is the source of my problem.

Each of my 12 mini movies of stills (family photos) contains 50-130 stills,
so I could easily lose one and not notice; I will check into it. I feel like
I learn one workaround after another to compensate for a litany of bugs in
WMM. Oh well, it is free after all.

Thanks again.

"Rehan" wrote:

> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by others.
> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So you have
> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
>
> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has not been
> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the movie it
> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
>
> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed mode
> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls associated
> with DV AVI.
>
> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
>
>
>
> --
> Rehan
> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
>
>
>
> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
> > Hi there.
> >
> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way.
> > (The
> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved at
> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI.
> > Then
> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final AVI--but
> > it
> > loses 6 seconds).
> >
> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do not
> > get
> > that far.
> >
> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
> > transitions
> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and I
> > time
> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to
> > synch
> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.
> >
> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2
> > pass
> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter
> > even
> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import
> > the
> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not be
> > so
> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If I
> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
> >
> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And to
> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.
> >
> > Help, please if you can!
>
>
>

Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by PapaJohn

PapaJohn
Mon Feb 21 14:48:50 CST 2005

The dropped 27th frame isn't related to still pictures... none of those
should be missing. It's the frame of a video clip when rendered to a DV-AVI
file.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
.
"FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3D4837BD-5518-4701-8F4A-1FCD1DE3B184@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Rehan, I will give it a go and post back. Your transition and
> picture
> duration workarounds have been very helpful, so thanks again for those.
>
> I did not come across the dropped still issue in any of my searches
> online.
> I will check it out to see if that is the source of my problem.
>
> Each of my 12 mini movies of stills (family photos) contains 50-130
> stills,
> so I could easily lose one and not notice; I will check into it. I feel
> like
> I learn one workaround after another to compensate for a litany of bugs in
> WMM. Oh well, it is free after all.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> "Rehan" wrote:
>
>> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by
>> others.
>> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So you
>> have
>> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
>>
>> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has not
>> been
>> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the movie
>> it
>> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
>>
>> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed
>> mode
>> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls associated
>> with DV AVI.
>>
>> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
>> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rehan
>> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
>>
>>
>>
>> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi there.
>> >
>> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
>> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way.
>> > (The
>> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved
>> > at
>> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI.
>> > Then
>> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
>> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final
>> > AVI--but
>> > it
>> > loses 6 seconds).
>> >
>> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
>> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do
>> > not
>> > get
>> > that far.
>> >
>> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
>> > transitions
>> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and
>> > I
>> > time
>> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to
>> > synch
>> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.
>> >
>> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2
>> > pass
>> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter
>> > even
>> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import
>> > the
>> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not
>> > be
>> > so
>> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If
>> > I
>> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
>> >
>> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And
>> > to
>> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.
>> >
>> > Help, please if you can!
>>
>>
>>



Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by PapaJohn

PapaJohn
Mon Feb 21 15:04:09 CST 2005

A couple thoughts...

Could your use of Rehan's transition and picture durations be working for
WMV files but not DV-AVI?

Sometimes I run into an issue which I classify as related to "... short term
memory...". A movie saved once as 4:34 but then changed to 4:31 might be
stuck in memory as a 4:34 one... Try changing the name of the project file
and the name of movie file it is being saved to... to jog it out of its
thinking.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
.
"FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3D4837BD-5518-4701-8F4A-1FCD1DE3B184@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Rehan, I will give it a go and post back. Your transition and
> picture
> duration workarounds have been very helpful, so thanks again for those.
>
> I did not come across the dropped still issue in any of my searches
> online.
> I will check it out to see if that is the source of my problem.
>
> Each of my 12 mini movies of stills (family photos) contains 50-130
> stills,
> so I could easily lose one and not notice; I will check into it. I feel
> like
> I learn one workaround after another to compensate for a litany of bugs in
> WMM. Oh well, it is free after all.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> "Rehan" wrote:
>
>> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by
>> others.
>> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So you
>> have
>> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
>>
>> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has not
>> been
>> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the movie
>> it
>> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
>>
>> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed
>> mode
>> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls associated
>> with DV AVI.
>>
>> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
>> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rehan
>> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
>>
>>
>>
>> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi there.
>> >
>> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
>> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way.
>> > (The
>> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved
>> > at
>> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI.
>> > Then
>> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
>> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final
>> > AVI--but
>> > it
>> > loses 6 seconds).
>> >
>> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
>> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do
>> > not
>> > get
>> > that far.
>> >
>> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
>> > transitions
>> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and
>> > I
>> > time
>> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to
>> > synch
>> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.
>> >
>> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2
>> > pass
>> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter
>> > even
>> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import
>> > the
>> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not
>> > be
>> > so
>> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If
>> > I
>> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
>> >
>> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And
>> > to
>> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.
>> >
>> > Help, please if you can!
>>
>>
>>



Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by FJK

FJK
Mon Feb 21 16:39:02 CST 2005

Hi Rehan,

I'm still saving the 12 movies--they each save to 4-5GB so it takes awhile
(glad I bought a 2nd hard drive recently). I assume that you meant that I
should then save them to AVIs and import into MyDVD to burn.

Would you recommend doing that in WMM or Windows Media Encoder?

Thanks again,
FJK

"Rehan" wrote:

> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by others.
> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So you have
> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
>
> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has not been
> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the movie it
> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
>
> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed mode
> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls associated
> with DV AVI.
>
> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
>
>
>
> --
> Rehan
> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
>
>
>
> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
> > Hi there.
> >
> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way.
> > (The
> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved at
> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI.
> > Then
> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final AVI--but
> > it
> > loses 6 seconds).
> >
> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do not
> > get
> > that far.
> >
> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
> > transitions
> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and I
> > time
> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to
> > synch
> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.
> >
> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2
> > pass
> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter
> > even
> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import
> > the
> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not be
> > so
> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If I
> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
> >
> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And to
> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.
> >
> > Help, please if you can!
>
>
>

Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by Rehan

Rehan
Tue Feb 22 09:27:08 CST 2005

I am not aware how you can do that in WME?

Doesnt your version of MyDVD accept WMV files to burn a DVD/CD?
--
Rehan
www.rehanfx.org - get more effects and transitions for Windows Movie Maker





"FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BC712485-FC01-404A-824C-2EDFB007EAFB@microsoft.com...
> Hi Rehan,
>
> I'm still saving the 12 movies--they each save to 4-5GB so it takes awhile
> (glad I bought a 2nd hard drive recently). I assume that you meant that I
> should then save them to AVIs and import into MyDVD to burn.
>
> Would you recommend doing that in WMM or Windows Media Encoder?
>
> Thanks again,
> FJK
>
> "Rehan" wrote:
>
>> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by
>> others.
>> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So you
>> have
>> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
>>
>> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has not
>> been
>> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the movie
>> it
>> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
>>
>> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed
>> mode
>> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls associated
>> with DV AVI.
>>
>> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
>> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rehan
>> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
>>
>>
>>
>> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi there.
>> >
>> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
>> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way.
>> > (The
>> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved
>> > at
>> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI.
>> > Then
>> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
>> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final
>> > AVI--but
>> > it
>> > loses 6 seconds).
>> >
>> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
>> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do
>> > not
>> > get
>> > that far.
>> >
>> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
>> > transitions
>> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and
>> > I
>> > time
>> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to
>> > synch
>> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.
>> >
>> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2
>> > pass
>> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter
>> > even
>> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import
>> > the
>> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not
>> > be
>> > so
>> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If
>> > I
>> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
>> >
>> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And
>> > to
>> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.
>> >
>> > Help, please if you can!
>>
>>
>>



Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by FJK

FJK
Tue Feb 22 10:41:03 CST 2005

Hi Rehan. Yes it is "supposed to" just like it is supposed to have a Fit
Slides to Music option--which I found does not really work well. That
actually is the real reason I even started playing with WMM. Sonic says it
is a known bug and there is no fix. So I edit everything in WMM and just use
MyDVD to burn DVDs.

After I migrated to WMM I actually liked it better because of the
transitions and titling that I could do (and the timeline made audio a lot
easier to visualize)--until I ran into the sync'ing the audio perfectly to
the slideshow length (which I eventually did using your workaround).

In my first generation of coffee table coasters, everything previewed fine
in MyDVD using WMV files, but during playback on PC/settop player, the video
crawled at maybe 1/100th speed while the audio played fine. More MyDVD bugs.
The standard WMM transitions caused this error but saving directly with AVIs
got around al of that. Until now, when it loses 6 seconds or so on the video
length.

Like I mentioned before, I keep learning workarounds to the workarounds.

"Rehan" wrote:

> I am not aware how you can do that in WME?
>
> Doesnt your version of MyDVD accept WMV files to burn a DVD/CD?
> --
> Rehan
> www.rehanfx.org - get more effects and transitions for Windows Movie Maker
>
>
>
>
>
> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BC712485-FC01-404A-824C-2EDFB007EAFB@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Rehan,
> >
> > I'm still saving the 12 movies--they each save to 4-5GB so it takes awhile
> > (glad I bought a 2nd hard drive recently). I assume that you meant that I
> > should then save them to AVIs and import into MyDVD to burn.
> >
> > Would you recommend doing that in WMM or Windows Media Encoder?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > FJK
> >
> > "Rehan" wrote:
> >
> >> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by
> >> others.
> >> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So you
> >> have
> >> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
> >>
> >> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has not
> >> been
> >> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the movie
> >> it
> >> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
> >>
> >> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed
> >> mode
> >> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls associated
> >> with DV AVI.
> >>
> >> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
> >> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rehan
> >> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi there.
> >> >
> >> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
> >> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way.
> >> > (The
> >> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved
> >> > at
> >> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI.
> >> > Then
> >> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
> >> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final
> >> > AVI--but
> >> > it
> >> > loses 6 seconds).
> >> >
> >> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
> >> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do
> >> > not
> >> > get
> >> > that far.
> >> >
> >> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
> >> > transitions
> >> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and
> >> > I
> >> > time
> >> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to
> >> > synch
> >> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.
> >> >
> >> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2
> >> > pass
> >> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter
> >> > even
> >> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import
> >> > the
> >> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not
> >> > be
> >> > so
> >> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If
> >> > I
> >> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
> >> >
> >> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And
> >> > to
> >> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.
> >> >
> >> > Help, please if you can!
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by FJK

FJK
Tue Feb 22 13:49:04 CST 2005

Possibly, but I have not real way to diagnose that. I am really trying to do
something that IMHO should be a normal setting in WMM wihout monkeying with
the registry. But it is free, so I get what I pay for.

I did try renaming/relocating the project and saving the AVI somewhere else,
rebooting, etc and it still trims 6 seconds. THanks for the suggestion
though.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> A couple thoughts...
>
> Could your use of Rehan's transition and picture durations be working for
> WMV files but not DV-AVI?
>
> Sometimes I run into an issue which I classify as related to "... short term
> memory...". A movie saved once as 4:34 but then changed to 4:31 might be
> stuck in memory as a 4:34 one... Try changing the name of the project file
> and the name of movie file it is being saved to... to jog it out of its
> thinking.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> ..
> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3D4837BD-5518-4701-8F4A-1FCD1DE3B184@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Rehan, I will give it a go and post back. Your transition and
> > picture
> > duration workarounds have been very helpful, so thanks again for those.
> >
> > I did not come across the dropped still issue in any of my searches
> > online.
> > I will check it out to see if that is the source of my problem.
> >
> > Each of my 12 mini movies of stills (family photos) contains 50-130
> > stills,
> > so I could easily lose one and not notice; I will check into it. I feel
> > like
> > I learn one workaround after another to compensate for a litany of bugs in
> > WMM. Oh well, it is free after all.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > "Rehan" wrote:
> >
> >> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by
> >> others.
> >> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So you
> >> have
> >> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
> >>
> >> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has not
> >> been
> >> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the movie
> >> it
> >> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
> >>
> >> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed
> >> mode
> >> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls associated
> >> with DV AVI.
> >>
> >> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
> >> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rehan
> >> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi there.
> >> >
> >> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
> >> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way.
> >> > (The
> >> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved
> >> > at
> >> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI.
> >> > Then
> >> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
> >> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final
> >> > AVI--but
> >> > it
> >> > loses 6 seconds).
> >> >
> >> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
> >> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do
> >> > not
> >> > get
> >> > that far.
> >> >
> >> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
> >> > transitions
> >> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and
> >> > I
> >> > time
> >> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to
> >> > synch
> >> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.
> >> >
> >> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2
> >> > pass
> >> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter
> >> > even
> >> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import
> >> > the
> >> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not
> >> > be
> >> > so
> >> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If
> >> > I
> >> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
> >> >
> >> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And
> >> > to
> >> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.
> >> >
> >> > Help, please if you can!
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by FJK

FJK
Tue Feb 22 13:57:02 CST 2005

Well, I tried the 4 or 5 GB WMVs and MyDVD choked on them. It says it cannot
display the button image and therefore does not import.

For a complete shot in the dark, I tried TMPGEnc but it does not import WMVs
apparently. I also downloaded a trial of Adobe Encore DVD but it cannot
import the uncompressed WMVs either. So I am back to where I started.

Any other ideas would be very welcome. Thanks in advance,

"Rehan" wrote:

> I am not aware how you can do that in WME?
>
> Doesnt your version of MyDVD accept WMV files to burn a DVD/CD?
> --
> Rehan
> www.rehanfx.org - get more effects and transitions for Windows Movie Maker
>
>
>
>
>
> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BC712485-FC01-404A-824C-2EDFB007EAFB@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Rehan,
> >
> > I'm still saving the 12 movies--they each save to 4-5GB so it takes awhile
> > (glad I bought a 2nd hard drive recently). I assume that you meant that I
> > should then save them to AVIs and import into MyDVD to burn.
> >
> > Would you recommend doing that in WMM or Windows Media Encoder?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > FJK
> >
> > "Rehan" wrote:
> >
> >> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by
> >> others.
> >> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So you
> >> have
> >> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
> >>
> >> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has not
> >> been
> >> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the movie
> >> it
> >> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
> >>
> >> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed
> >> mode
> >> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls associated
> >> with DV AVI.
> >>
> >> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
> >> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rehan
> >> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi there.
> >> >
> >> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving to
> >> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong way.
> >> > (The
> >> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being saved
> >> > at
> >> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an AVI.
> >> > Then
> >> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my WMA
> >> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final
> >> > AVI--but
> >> > it
> >> > loses 6 seconds).
> >> >
> >> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions and
> >> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I do
> >> > not
> >> > get
> >> > that far.
> >> >
> >> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
> >> > transitions
> >> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long and
> >> > I
> >> > time
> >> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way) to
> >> > synch
> >> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a dime.
> >> >
> >> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through the 2
> >> > pass
> >> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds shorter
> >> > even
> >> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I import
> >> > the
> >> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would not
> >> > be
> >> > so
> >> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and If
> >> > I
> >> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
> >> >
> >> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD. And
> >> > to
> >> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to WMV.
> >> >
> >> > Help, please if you can!
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by PapaJohn

PapaJohn
Tue Feb 22 14:04:00 CST 2005

The way to check WMV versus DV-AVI is to save one of each and see if the
same issue is in them.. if you already did the fresh DV-AVI one, use the
same project file to save a WMV one...

--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
.
"FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CAF4A41E-1AD3-489E-A630-BF3D605EB860@microsoft.com...
> Possibly, but I have not real way to diagnose that. I am really trying to
> do
> something that IMHO should be a normal setting in WMM wihout monkeying
> with
> the registry. But it is free, so I get what I pay for.
>
> I did try renaming/relocating the project and saving the AVI somewhere
> else,
> rebooting, etc and it still trims 6 seconds. THanks for the suggestion
> though.
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> A couple thoughts...
>>
>> Could your use of Rehan's transition and picture durations be working for
>> WMV files but not DV-AVI?
>>
>> Sometimes I run into an issue which I classify as related to "... short
>> term
>> memory...". A movie saved once as 4:34 but then changed to 4:31 might be
>> stuck in memory as a 4:34 one... Try changing the name of the project
>> file
>> and the name of movie file it is being saved to... to jog it out of its
>> thinking.
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> ..
>> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3D4837BD-5518-4701-8F4A-1FCD1DE3B184@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks Rehan, I will give it a go and post back. Your transition and
>> > picture
>> > duration workarounds have been very helpful, so thanks again for those.
>> >
>> > I did not come across the dropped still issue in any of my searches
>> > online.
>> > I will check it out to see if that is the source of my problem.
>> >
>> > Each of my 12 mini movies of stills (family photos) contains 50-130
>> > stills,
>> > so I could easily lose one and not notice; I will check into it. I
>> > feel
>> > like
>> > I learn one workaround after another to compensate for a litany of bugs
>> > in
>> > WMM. Oh well, it is free after all.
>> >
>> > Thanks again.
>> >
>> > "Rehan" wrote:
>> >
>> >> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by
>> >> others.
>> >> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So
>> >> you
>> >> have
>> >> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
>> >>
>> >> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has
>> >> not
>> >> been
>> >> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the
>> >> movie
>> >> it
>> >> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
>> >>
>> >> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed
>> >> mode
>> >> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls
>> >> associated
>> >> with DV AVI.
>> >>
>> >> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
>> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
>> >> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Rehan
>> >> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi there.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving
>> >> > to
>> >> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong
>> >> > way.
>> >> > (The
>> >> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being
>> >> > saved
>> >> > at
>> >> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an
>> >> > AVI.
>> >> > Then
>> >> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my
>> >> > WMA
>> >> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final
>> >> > AVI--but
>> >> > it
>> >> > loses 6 seconds).
>> >> >
>> >> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions
>> >> > and
>> >> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I
>> >> > do
>> >> > not
>> >> > get
>> >> > that far.
>> >> >
>> >> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
>> >> > transitions
>> >> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long
>> >> > and
>> >> > I
>> >> > time
>> >> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way)
>> >> > to
>> >> > synch
>> >> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a
>> >> > dime.
>> >> >
>> >> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through
>> >> > the 2
>> >> > pass
>> >> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds
>> >> > shorter
>> >> > even
>> >> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I
>> >> > import
>> >> > the
>> >> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would
>> >> > not
>> >> > be
>> >> > so
>> >> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and
>> >> > If
>> >> > I
>> >> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
>> >> >
>> >> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD.
>> >> > And
>> >> > to
>> >> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to
>> >> > WMV.
>> >> >
>> >> > Help, please if you can!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>



Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by PapaJohn

PapaJohn
Tue Feb 22 14:14:41 CST 2005

TMPGEnc usually accepts WMV files if you drag and drop them into it...
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
.
"FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DAEBFB83-A521-4CEF-BE6C-A9FA541AD887@microsoft.com...
> Well, I tried the 4 or 5 GB WMVs and MyDVD choked on them. It says it
> cannot
> display the button image and therefore does not import.
>
> For a complete shot in the dark, I tried TMPGEnc but it does not import
> WMVs
> apparently. I also downloaded a trial of Adobe Encore DVD but it cannot
> import the uncompressed WMVs either. So I am back to where I started.
>
> Any other ideas would be very welcome. Thanks in advance,
>
> "Rehan" wrote:
>
>> I am not aware how you can do that in WME?
>>
>> Doesnt your version of MyDVD accept WMV files to burn a DVD/CD?
>> --
>> Rehan
>> www.rehanfx.org - get more effects and transitions for Windows Movie
>> Maker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BC712485-FC01-404A-824C-2EDFB007EAFB@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Rehan,
>> >
>> > I'm still saving the 12 movies--they each save to 4-5GB so it takes
>> > awhile
>> > (glad I bought a 2nd hard drive recently). I assume that you meant
>> > that I
>> > should then save them to AVIs and import into MyDVD to burn.
>> >
>> > Would you recommend doing that in WMM or Windows Media Encoder?
>> >
>> > Thanks again,
>> > FJK
>> >
>> > "Rehan" wrote:
>> >
>> >> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by
>> >> others.
>> >> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So
>> >> you
>> >> have
>> >> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
>> >>
>> >> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has
>> >> not
>> >> been
>> >> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the
>> >> movie
>> >> it
>> >> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
>> >>
>> >> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed
>> >> mode
>> >> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls
>> >> associated
>> >> with DV AVI.
>> >>
>> >> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
>> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
>> >> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Rehan
>> >> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi there.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving
>> >> > to
>> >> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong
>> >> > way.
>> >> > (The
>> >> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being
>> >> > saved
>> >> > at
>> >> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an
>> >> > AVI.
>> >> > Then
>> >> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my
>> >> > WMA
>> >> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final
>> >> > AVI--but
>> >> > it
>> >> > loses 6 seconds).
>> >> >
>> >> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions
>> >> > and
>> >> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I
>> >> > do
>> >> > not
>> >> > get
>> >> > that far.
>> >> >
>> >> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
>> >> > transitions
>> >> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long
>> >> > and
>> >> > I
>> >> > time
>> >> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way)
>> >> > to
>> >> > synch
>> >> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a
>> >> > dime.
>> >> >
>> >> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through
>> >> > the 2
>> >> > pass
>> >> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds
>> >> > shorter
>> >> > even
>> >> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I
>> >> > import
>> >> > the
>> >> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would
>> >> > not
>> >> > be
>> >> > so
>> >> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and
>> >> > If
>> >> > I
>> >> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
>> >> >
>> >> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD.
>> >> > And
>> >> > to
>> >> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to
>> >> > WMV.
>> >> >
>> >> > Help, please if you can!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>



Re: Saving to DV-AVI loses 6 seconds of movie length by FJK

FJK
Tue Feb 22 16:35:02 CST 2005

Sorry, I had already done that. The WMVs work (no time loss) but the AVIs
consistently lose 6 seconds.



"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> The way to check WMV versus DV-AVI is to save one of each and see if the
> same issue is in them.. if you already did the fresh DV-AVI one, use the
> same project file to save a WMV one...
>
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> ..
> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CAF4A41E-1AD3-489E-A630-BF3D605EB860@microsoft.com...
> > Possibly, but I have not real way to diagnose that. I am really trying to
> > do
> > something that IMHO should be a normal setting in WMM wihout monkeying
> > with
> > the registry. But it is free, so I get what I pay for.
> >
> > I did try renaming/relocating the project and saving the AVI somewhere
> > else,
> > rebooting, etc and it still trims 6 seconds. THanks for the suggestion
> > though.
> >
> > "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> A couple thoughts...
> >>
> >> Could your use of Rehan's transition and picture durations be working for
> >> WMV files but not DV-AVI?
> >>
> >> Sometimes I run into an issue which I classify as related to "... short
> >> term
> >> memory...". A movie saved once as 4:34 but then changed to 4:31 might be
> >> stuck in memory as a 4:34 one... Try changing the name of the project
> >> file
> >> and the name of movie file it is being saved to... to jog it out of its
> >> thinking.
> >> --
> >> PapaJohn
> >>
> >> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> >> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >> ..
> >> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3D4837BD-5518-4701-8F4A-1FCD1DE3B184@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks Rehan, I will give it a go and post back. Your transition and
> >> > picture
> >> > duration workarounds have been very helpful, so thanks again for those.
> >> >
> >> > I did not come across the dropped still issue in any of my searches
> >> > online.
> >> > I will check it out to see if that is the source of my problem.
> >> >
> >> > Each of my 12 mini movies of stills (family photos) contains 50-130
> >> > stills,
> >> > so I could easily lose one and not notice; I will check into it. I
> >> > feel
> >> > like
> >> > I learn one workaround after another to compensate for a litany of bugs
> >> > in
> >> > WMM. Oh well, it is free after all.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again.
> >> >
> >> > "Rehan" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> All your observations are valid and have been previously reported by
> >> >> others.
> >> >> Microsoft have not fixed these bugs and dont think they plan to. So
> >> >> you
> >> >> have
> >> >> to work witht he work arounds I am afraid.
> >> >>
> >> >> However the severe shortening of DV AVI file as reported by you has
> >> >> not
> >> >> been
> >> >> observed before. According to previous reports for each clip in the
> >> >> movie
> >> >> it
> >> >> would skip frame no 27. Do you have alot of clips/stills ?
> >> >>
> >> >> My solution was to use custom profiles that saves WMVs in uncompressed
> >> >> mode
> >> >> thus retaining maximum resolution while avoiding the pitfalls
> >> >> associated
> >> >> with DV AVI.
> >> >>
> >> >> You may be interested to use my custom profiles
> >> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rehanahmad/uncompressed.zip or tweak them
> >> >> yourself using Windows Media Profile Editor.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Rehan
> >> >> www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "FJK" <FJK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:F3781F61-C878-4315-86A5-9742ABF8DB53@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi there.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am trying to overcome a bug in WMM2 with audio popping when saving
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > DV-AVI so please someone tell me if I am going about it the wrong
> >> >> > way.
> >> >> > (The
> >> >> > popping apparently comes from the transitions and the audio being
> >> >> > saved
> >> >> > at
> >> >> > the same time; so first I save the slideshow with no audio as an
> >> >> > AVI.
> >> >> > Then
> >> >> > in a second project I use the first silent AVI as the video, add my
> >> >> > WMA
> >> >> > soundtrack, save as AVI again and voila, no skipping in the final
> >> >> > AVI--but
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > loses 6 seconds).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My main goal is to output 12 separate slideshows (with transitions
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > audio) as separate movies and then burn to DVD using MyDVD. But I
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > get
> >> >> > that far.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > An example project has 86 stills and 3 title/overlays with fade
> >> >> > transitions
> >> >> > in between. I have a WMA file that is 04:41 (4 mins 41 secs) long
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > time
> >> >> > the transitions using a trick I got from Rehan (thanks by the way)
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > synch
> >> >> > perfectly. In the preview it is great and the audio stops on a
> >> >> > dime.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > However, when I produce any AVI (either the 1st silent or through
> >> >> > the 2
> >> >> > pass
> >> >> > method) I end up with a shorter movie, namely 4:35 or 6 seconds
> >> >> > shorter
> >> >> > even
> >> >> > though it shows 4:41 in the timeline. It is most obvious when I
> >> >> > import
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > silent AVI into the timeline and it is noticeably shorter. I would
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > so
> >> >> > picky but the slides are supposed to sync with the music just so and
> >> >> > If
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > just "fade out" early the effect is just not as clean.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I use AVIs because of earlier problems I had with WMVs and MyDVD.
> >> >> > And
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > make this more interesting, I do not lose 6 seconds if I save to
> >> >> > WMV.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Help, please if you can!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
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