Pinnacle Dazzle Video Creator Platinum vs. Windows Movie Maker 2

I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC that
has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which includes
Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and built-in
software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct analog to
digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the software
program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping I would
also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to
capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from my
VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me that
"The device is not responding. Close any other application that is using the
device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to transfer
and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like and I was
hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up.
My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their technical
knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot more
experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will
never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.

Czakk
Sun Dec 17 22:07:00 CST 2006

Hi Cyclone,

I have the same issue with the analog connections through WMM. If you get
your answer, please let me know.

Question for you: Does the Dazzle software let you "preview" your analog
feed before you actually have to capture it? In other words, could I use
that software to monitor a security cam connected to my PC with the analog
inputs?

Thanks

"cyclone47" wrote:

> I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC that
> has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which includes
> Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and built-in
> software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct analog to
> digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the software
> program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping I would
> also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to
> capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from my
> VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me that
> "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is using the
> device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to transfer
> and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like and I was
> hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up.
> My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
> responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their technical
> knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
> technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
> analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot more
> experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will
> never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.

John
Sun Dec 17 22:13:15 CST 2006

cyclone47 wrote:
> I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC
> that has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which
> includes Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware
> and built-in software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and
> do a direct analog to digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then
> I can edit with the software program that came with Dazzle Video
> Creator Platinum. I was hoping I would also be able to use Movie
> Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to capture and edit video
> if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from my VCR using
> Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me that
> "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is
> using the device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle
> software to transfer and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some
> functions that I like and I was hoping it would recognize my VCR via
> the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up. My emails to Pinnacle have
> gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off responses, so I think I have
> asked them something beyond their technical knowledge of their own
> product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not technically advanced
> enough yet to recognize and handle another analog-digital transfer
> device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot more experience than
> mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will never know
> if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.
=======================================
Maybe the following link will offer some ideas:

Analog video capture
using a Dazzle DVC 80
http://tinyurl.com/9xgmk

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

cyclone47
Sun Dec 17 22:28:01 CST 2006

Hi Czakk. I can watch the VHS tape playing in my VCR without having to start
the actual "capture video" process. The capture section of the Dazzle
software includes a 3" x 4" video screen to watch what is playing in your
transfer device (in my case the VCR). I just open the capture section of the
software, hit the play button on my VCR, and I can watch the VHS tape without
doing any physical capture onto my PC hard drive. There is a separate button
on the same screen to do the actual "video capture" if you want to. I just
purchased this software over the weekend, but I am impressed with how well it
seems to work. Will know more when I get into transferring hours of VHC
tapes. Anyway, it looks like it might just work for your situation.

"Czakk" wrote:

> Hi Cyclone,
>
> I have the same issue with the analog connections through WMM. If you get
> your answer, please let me know.
>
> Question for you: Does the Dazzle software let you "preview" your analog
> feed before you actually have to capture it? In other words, could I use
> that software to monitor a security cam connected to my PC with the analog
> inputs?
>
> Thanks
>
> "cyclone47" wrote:
>
> > I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC that
> > has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which includes
> > Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and built-in
> > software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct analog to
> > digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the software
> > program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping I would
> > also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to
> > capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from my
> > VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me that
> > "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is using the
> > device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to transfer
> > and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like and I was
> > hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up.
> > My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
> > responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their technical
> > knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
> > technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
> > analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot more
> > experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will
> > never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.

cyclone47
Sun Dec 17 23:25:00 CST 2006

Hi John Inzer

After I get the error message I mentioned in my initial question, if I click
"ok" on that error message it brings up another error message over the top of
capture device window that tells me "The video device cannot be used at this
time because there was an error starting the device." The VCR is on. I
checked out your article about the Dazzle DVC 80, but it seems to pertain
more to using an analog video camera versus transferring directly from a VCR
hooked to the Dazzle hardware device. Unless somebody gives me further input
here, it looks like Windows Movie Maker 2 has trouble recognizing the newer
Dazzle DVC 170 hardware device, or, it has a problem handling input directly
from a VCR versus a video camera. For whatever reason.

"John Inzer" wrote:

> cyclone47 wrote:
> > I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC
> > that has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which
> > includes Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware
> > and built-in software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and
> > do a direct analog to digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then
> > I can edit with the software program that came with Dazzle Video
> > Creator Platinum. I was hoping I would also be able to use Movie
> > Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to capture and edit video
> > if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from my VCR using
> > Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me that
> > "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is
> > using the device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle
> > software to transfer and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some
> > functions that I like and I was hoping it would recognize my VCR via
> > the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up. My emails to Pinnacle have
> > gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off responses, so I think I have
> > asked them something beyond their technical knowledge of their own
> > product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not technically advanced
> > enough yet to recognize and handle another analog-digital transfer
> > device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot more experience than
> > mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will never know
> > if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.
> =======================================
> Maybe the following link will offer some ideas:
>
> Analog video capture
> using a Dazzle DVC 80
> http://tinyurl.com/9xgmk
>
> --
>
> John Inzer
> MS Picture It! MVP
>
> Digital Image
> Highlights and FAQs
> http://tinyurl.com/aczzp
>
> Notice
> This is not tech support
> I am a volunteer
>
> Solutions that work for
> me may not work for you
>
> Proceed at your own risk
>
>
>

John
Sun Dec 17 23:52:22 CST 2006

cyclone47 wrote:
> Hi John Inzer
>
> After I get the error message I mentioned in my initial question, if
> I click "ok" on that error message it brings up another error message
> over the top of capture device window that tells me "The video device
> cannot be used at this time because there was an error starting the
> device." The VCR is on. I checked out your article about the Dazzle
> DVC 80, but it seems to pertain more to using an analog video camera
> versus transferring directly from a VCR hooked to the Dazzle hardware
> device. Unless somebody gives me further input here, it looks like
> Windows Movie Maker 2 has trouble recognizing the newer Dazzle DVC
> 170 hardware device, or, it has a problem handling input directly
> from a VCR versus a video camera. For whatever reason.
===============================
Sorry I don't have instructions for your
specific setup...all I have to offer are
general articles....

Capturing Analog Video
http://www.papajohn.org/MM2-CaptureAnalog.html

Download Video to Your
Computer with Windows
Movie Maker 2
http://tinyurl.com/4fpea

Convert VHS to DVD
http://www.signvideo.com/conv-v-to-d.htm

Copying VHS to DVD
http://tinyurl.com/dzcho

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

Breadstick
Mon Dec 18 01:19:00 CST 2006

Hi- I forgot to mention that I use the Dazzle device to capture from a vcr as
well as an analog camcorder.

"cyclone47" wrote:

> I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC that
> has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which includes
> Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and built-in
> software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct analog to
> digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the software
> program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping I would
> also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to
> capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from my
> VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me that
> "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is using the
> device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to transfer
> and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like and I was
> hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up.
> My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
> responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their technical
> knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
> technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
> analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot more
> experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will
> never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.

Burgy
Mon Dec 18 10:55:06 CST 2006

I bought Pinnacle 9 when it first came out....I had some issues with it
saving movies. I sent several emails to support.
That was ,what 2-3 years ago? Anyway , I'm still waiting for a reply.. Read
several articles from others who never got any support. When you buy another
'key' so you can use another feature though, your account is charged
immediately. Their bookkeepers are on the ball.

Mine is shelfware now, after wasting over $100 ...........
GOOD LUCK...


"cyclone47" <cyclone47@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AAA04C51-B7A8-44BA-BFD7-83603C51E567@microsoft.com...
>I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC that
> has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which includes
> Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and built-in
> software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct analog
> to
> digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the
> software
> program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping I
> would
> also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to
> capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from
> my
> VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me
> that
> "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is using
> the
> device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to
> transfer
> and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like and I
> was
> hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up.
> My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
> responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their technical
> knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
> technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
> analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot
> more
> experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will
> never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.

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cyclone47
Tue Dec 19 22:26:01 CST 2006

Hi Breadstick

I wish I was having your success. I am using the Dazzle DVC170 capture
device. It was also my understanding from talking to the people (Best Buy)
who sold me the Dazzle DVC170 hardware/sofware package that Windows Movie
Maker 2 would also work with it for editing. The Dazzle DVC 170 shows up
alright my in my Device Manager under "hardware" on my PC so I know it has
loaded onto my PC alright, but for some reason Windows Movie Maker 2 is
having trouble with it. I am trying to capture directly from a VCR. When I
go into Windows Movie Maker 2 and hit "capture from video device", I get an
error message that says, "The device is not responding. Close any other
application that is using the device and try capturing again". When I hit
the "ok" button on that error message, I get another error message along with
the Move Maker 2 viceo device capture screen under it. That error message
says, "The video device cannot be used at this time because there is an error
when starting the device." I get both of these error messages whether I have
the VCR turned on or not. I am having no trouble capturing video using the
software that came with my Dazzle DVC 170 using my current hook-ups, but for
some reason Move Maker 2 is not recognizing the Dazzle DVC 170 capture
device. The DVC 170 hooks directly into one of the USB ports on my PC, so it
is a no brainer hook-up. Is there anywhere that you can go and just download
Windows Movie Maker 2 by itself without doing the entire XP Service Pack 2
download. I am beginning to wonder if it is not a problem with how the
program for Windows Movie Maker 2 was originally loaded onto my PC. I am
also communicating with Pinnacle on this issue and they are telling me that
Windows Movie Maker 2 should work with the Dazzle DVC 170. All I know is
that there is something missing somewhere as far as connectivity between the
two.

"Breadstick" wrote:

> Hi- I am using the Dazzle 80 program. I use the Dazzle 80 Capture Device
> with Windows Moviemaker. It works as well as with the Dazzle software. Just
> be sure that after clicking "Capture from video device" in Moviemaker, on the
> next pop-up panel you must be sure to configure it so that "Pinnacle 80
> Audio" shows in the dropdown, and go on from there to complete the rest of
> the configuration. Then click "Next" to capture your movie. Be aware of the
> fact that you will not hear the audio track while capturing the movie--as is
> the case with the Dazzle software. This should work out OK. Let me know.
>
>
> "cyclone47" wrote:
>
> > I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC that
> > has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which includes
> > Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and built-in
> > software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct analog to
> > digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the software
> > program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping I would
> > also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to
> > capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from my
> > VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me that
> > "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is using the
> > device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to transfer
> > and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like and I was
> > hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up.
> > My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
> > responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their technical
> > knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
> > technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
> > analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot more
> > experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will
> > never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.

cyclone47
Tue Dec 19 22:38:01 CST 2006

Thanks for the additional reading material John Inzer. I will glean what I
can from it. It could be that I am having problems because my PC has the
Windows XP Media Center operating system on it, versus just plain Windows XP.
I will keep asking questions until I find the answer. Has to be a way here.
Is there any place where I can contact a Microsoft tech via email with these
types of written questions. I believe it is a Microsoft issue rather than
anything wrong with the Dazzle product.

"John Inzer" wrote:

> cyclone47 wrote:
> > Hi John Inzer
> >
> > After I get the error message I mentioned in my initial question, if
> > I click "ok" on that error message it brings up another error message
> > over the top of capture device window that tells me "The video device
> > cannot be used at this time because there was an error starting the
> > device." The VCR is on. I checked out your article about the Dazzle
> > DVC 80, but it seems to pertain more to using an analog video camera
> > versus transferring directly from a VCR hooked to the Dazzle hardware
> > device. Unless somebody gives me further input here, it looks like
> > Windows Movie Maker 2 has trouble recognizing the newer Dazzle DVC
> > 170 hardware device, or, it has a problem handling input directly
> > from a VCR versus a video camera. For whatever reason.
> ===============================
> Sorry I don't have instructions for your
> specific setup...all I have to offer are
> general articles....
>
> Capturing Analog Video
> http://www.papajohn.org/MM2-CaptureAnalog.html
>
> Download Video to Your
> Computer with Windows
> Movie Maker 2
> http://tinyurl.com/4fpea
>
> Convert VHS to DVD
> http://www.signvideo.com/conv-v-to-d.htm
>
> Copying VHS to DVD
> http://tinyurl.com/dzcho
>
> --
>
> John Inzer
> MS Picture It! MVP
>
> Digital Image
> Highlights and FAQs
> http://tinyurl.com/aczzp
>
> Notice
> This is not tech support
> I am a volunteer
>
> Solutions that work for
> me may not work for you
>
> Proceed at your own risk
>
>
>

cyclone47
Tue Dec 19 23:11:01 CST 2006

Hi Breadstick

Do you have any Pinnacle capture/ediitng software that came with your Dazzle
DVC 80 hardware device? Maybe the Pinnacle 10 capture/editing software that
I loaded with my Dazzle DVC 170 hardware device is creating confusion with
the Windows Movie Maker 2 software on my PC???

"Breadstick" wrote:

> Hi- I forgot to mention that I use the Dazzle device to capture from a vcr as
> well as an analog camcorder.
>
> "cyclone47" wrote:
>
> > I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC that
> > has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which includes
> > Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and built-in
> > software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct analog to
> > digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the software
> > program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping I would
> > also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to
> > capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from my
> > VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me that
> > "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is using the
> > device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to transfer
> > and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like and I was
> > hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up.
> > My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
> > responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their technical
> > knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
> > technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
> > analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot more
> > experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will
> > never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.

Breadstick
Wed Dec 20 00:45:00 CST 2006

Hi cyclone47- I really understand your frustration. I installed the software
that came with the Dazzle 80 capture device. The software is called
Pinnacalle Studio 9 Quick Start Version 9.3.2. The Studio 9 program captures
vcr tapes well. After a project is rendered and saved as an .avi file, open
it into Moviemaker. The end result is essentially the same as doing it
directly in MM2 except for the extra step. So if all else fails you could do
it this way as a workaround--hopefully. Moviemaker is more friendly for me to
work with.
In the MM2 capure configuration window, the Pinnacalle 80 audio icon must
show. When it is highlighted the "audio sound bar" blinks, indicating, to me
at least, that the sound is active. The selection in the dropdown menu below
must be "Pinnaclle audio". Then if you hold your breath you're off and
running.
I have MM 2.1. If you have MM 2 it may mean you need 2.1 -- I don't really
know. Ordering an SP2 Disc from Microsoft (free) would ease the pain a bit
if it were to be installed. If any of this isn't clear, let me know.
Breadstick
"cyclone47" wrote:

> Hi Breadstick
>
> Do you have any Pinnacle capture/ediitng software that came with your Dazzle
> DVC 80 hardware device? Maybe the Pinnacle 10 capture/editing software that
> I loaded with my Dazzle DVC 170 hardware device is creating confusion with
> the Windows Movie Maker 2 software on my PC???
>
> "Breadstick" wrote:
>
> > Hi- I forgot to mention that I use the Dazzle device to capture from a vcr as
> > well as an analog camcorder.
> >
> > "cyclone47" wrote:
> >
> > > I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC that
> > > has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which includes
> > > Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and built-in
> > > software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct analog to
> > > digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the software
> > > program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping I would
> > > also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to
> > > capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video" from my
> > > VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me that
> > > "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is using the
> > > device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to transfer
> > > and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like and I was
> > > hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware hook-up.
> > > My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
> > > responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their technical
> > > knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
> > > technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
> > > analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot more
> > > experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I will
> > > never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.

Newtechie
Wed Dec 20 13:57:05 CST 2006

Hi Cyclone,

I experienced a problem similar to yours a couple years ago when I started
with all this video editing. I used the Dazzle 80 for a couple of days
before returning it to Circuit City. I found my problem to be having both
programs open at the same time. If you have Pinnacle open, try closing it
and using just MM. I don't know if that'll work for you but it won't hurt
to try. You might also have to end any processes that's related to
Pinnacle. If you're curious to why I returned my Dazzle, it's because I had
a TV tuner on my graphics card and didn't know what it was at the
time...lol - it allows me to do capturing as well so it was need to have two
of them.

Hope this helps,
Newtechie

"cyclone47" <cyclone47@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6384A2B3-8F52-43FA-8BE7-9C79923DA871@microsoft.com...
> Hi Breadstick
>
> I wish I was having your success. I am using the Dazzle DVC170 capture
> device. It was also my understanding from talking to the people (Best
> Buy)
> who sold me the Dazzle DVC170 hardware/sofware package that Windows Movie
> Maker 2 would also work with it for editing. The Dazzle DVC 170 shows up
> alright my in my Device Manager under "hardware" on my PC so I know it has
> loaded onto my PC alright, but for some reason Windows Movie Maker 2 is
> having trouble with it. I am trying to capture directly from a VCR. When
> I
> go into Windows Movie Maker 2 and hit "capture from video device", I get
> an
> error message that says, "The device is not responding. Close any other
> application that is using the device and try capturing again". When I hit
> the "ok" button on that error message, I get another error message along
> with
> the Move Maker 2 viceo device capture screen under it. That error message
> says, "The video device cannot be used at this time because there is an
> error
> when starting the device." I get both of these error messages whether I
> have
> the VCR turned on or not. I am having no trouble capturing video using
> the
> software that came with my Dazzle DVC 170 using my current hook-ups, but
> for
> some reason Move Maker 2 is not recognizing the Dazzle DVC 170 capture
> device. The DVC 170 hooks directly into one of the USB ports on my PC, so
> it
> is a no brainer hook-up. Is there anywhere that you can go and just
> download
> Windows Movie Maker 2 by itself without doing the entire XP Service Pack 2
> download. I am beginning to wonder if it is not a problem with how the
> program for Windows Movie Maker 2 was originally loaded onto my PC. I am
> also communicating with Pinnacle on this issue and they are telling me
> that
> Windows Movie Maker 2 should work with the Dazzle DVC 170. All I know is
> that there is something missing somewhere as far as connectivity between
> the
> two.
>
> "Breadstick" wrote:
>
>> Hi- I am using the Dazzle 80 program. I use the Dazzle 80 Capture Device
>> with Windows Moviemaker. It works as well as with the Dazzle software.
>> Just
>> be sure that after clicking "Capture from video device" in Moviemaker, on
>> the
>> next pop-up panel you must be sure to configure it so that "Pinnacle 80
>> Audio" shows in the dropdown, and go on from there to complete the rest
>> of
>> the configuration. Then click "Next" to capture your movie. Be aware of
>> the
>> fact that you will not hear the audio track while capturing the movie--as
>> is
>> the case with the Dazzle software. This should work out OK. Let me
>> know.
>>
>>
>> "cyclone47" wrote:
>>
>> > I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my PC
>> > that
>> > has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which
>> > includes
>> > Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and built-in
>> > software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct
>> > analog to
>> > digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the
>> > software
>> > program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping I
>> > would
>> > also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware to
>> > capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video"
>> > from my
>> > VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling me
>> > that
>> > "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is
>> > using the
>> > device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to
>> > transfer
>> > and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like and
>> > I was
>> > hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware
>> > hook-up.
>> > My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
>> > responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their
>> > technical
>> > knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
>> > technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
>> > analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a lot
>> > more
>> > experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I
>> > will
>> > never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any responses.

Newtechie
Wed Dec 20 16:04:38 CST 2006

Just an FYI Cyclone, Movie Maker really doesn't like mpg files. It's best
to use DV-AVI or wmv format for better results. There's a wealth of
information on Papajohn's website: www.papajohn.org . If you click on the
(+) next to Analog Video Capture, there's actually a Dazzle topic that you
can click on and read about capturing using your device. Hope this helps.

Newtechie

"cyclone47" <cyclone47@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05C07BA7-71B6-4A05-BFB6-732D7A05A351@microsoft.com...
> Hello again Breadstick
>
> The "test" video that I captured from my VCR into Pinnacle Studio 10 is in
> the mpg format. For capturing video the Pinnacle Studio 10 software only
> gives me three choices for video format: Mpg-1/2, Mpg-4, and DivX.
> Anyway,
> the test video I created using Pinnacle Studio 10 is an mpg formated
> video.
> It plays on my Windows Media Player 11 just fine, so the video itself
> seems
> to have transferred alright using the Dazzle DVC 170 and Pinnacle Studio
> 10.
> Just don't know why my particular edition of Windows Movie Maker 2
> (version
> 2.1.4026.0) doesn't like it. Thanks again for response. I will keep
> trying
> to figure this thing out.
>
>
> "Breadstick" wrote:
>
>> Hi cyclone47- When you tried this method of capturing in mm 2 was the
>> Pinnacle file in the .avi form? Just for the heck of it, why not try it
>> this
>> way. Edit out a portion of that avi file, in the Pinnacle window, and
>> save
>> that portion to the .mpg (MPEG) choice that Pinnacle gives you -- at
>> least
>> mine works that way. Then see if Moviemaker will take it. Can you import
>> and
>> work with any other video in Moviemaker? Give System Restore a try if
>> you
>> haven't already.
>>
>> "cyclone47" wrote:
>>
>> > Hello again Breadstick
>> >
>> > I tried the method of capturing the video throught the Pinnacle Studio
>> > 10
>> > software and then trying to do the edit process in Windows Movie Maker
>> > 2.
>> > When I try to do the "import video" step I get another error message
>> > that
>> > tells me " the video could not be imported because an interface has too
>> > many
>> > methods to fire events from". Whatever the heck that means! I would
>> > be
>> > happy if I at least could do that because there are some aspects of
>> > Movie
>> > Maker 2 software that I also like over the Pinnacle Studio 10 software
>> > for
>> > editing. Totally frustrating here. I know I already have the SP2
>> > upgrade on
>> > my PC, but I have gone ahead and ordered a CD from Microsoft with the
>> > dim
>> > assumption that something might not have loaded properly with the
>> > Windows
>> > Movie Maker 2 portion of the SP2 upgrade patch. I am hoping I can
>> > manually
>> > go into that CD and just dowload the Windows Movie Maker 2 portion. I
>> > am
>> > also in email contact with Pinnacle concerning the Dazzle DVC 170
>> > capabilities, but initially they are telling me that Windows Movie
>> > Maker 2
>> > should work. There is a glitch in the system somewhere. Probably a
>> > setting
>> > that needs to be adjusted, etc., etc.. I'm not going to bother
>> > bringing the
>> > so-called Dell techs into this because I'm sure they have no answers.
>> > They
>> > just sell their PC's with Microsoft operating systems and Microsoft
>> > palms off
>> > any technical issues back to the Dell people, even though it's their
>> > operating system. I haven't found a way yet to communicate with the
>> > Microsoft technical people via email. Their technical help sight just
>> > wants
>> > to send you back to Dell. The jerks.
>> >
>> > "Breadstick" wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi cyclone47- I really understand your frustration. I installed the
>> > > software
>> > > that came with the Dazzle 80 capture device. The software is called
>> > > Pinnacalle Studio 9 Quick Start Version 9.3.2. The Studio 9 program
>> > > captures
>> > > vcr tapes well. After a project is rendered and saved as an .avi
>> > > file, open
>> > > it into Moviemaker. The end result is essentially the same as doing
>> > > it
>> > > directly in MM2 except for the extra step. So if all else fails you
>> > > could do
>> > > it this way as a workaround--hopefully. Moviemaker is more friendly
>> > > for me to
>> > > work with.
>> > > In the MM2 capure configuration window, the Pinnacalle 80 audio icon
>> > > must
>> > > show. When it is highlighted the "audio sound bar" blinks,
>> > > indicating, to me
>> > > at least, that the sound is active. The selection in the dropdown
>> > > menu below
>> > > must be "Pinnaclle audio". Then if you hold your breath you're off
>> > > and
>> > > running.
>> > > I have MM 2.1. If you have MM 2 it may mean you need 2.1 -- I don't
>> > > really
>> > > know. Ordering an SP2 Disc from Microsoft (free) would ease the pain
>> > > a bit
>> > > if it were to be installed. If any of this isn't clear, let me know.
>> > > Breadstick
>> > > "cyclone47" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Breadstick
>> > > >
>> > > > Do you have any Pinnacle capture/ediitng software that came with
>> > > > your Dazzle
>> > > > DVC 80 hardware device? Maybe the Pinnacle 10 capture/editing
>> > > > software that
>> > > > I loaded with my Dazzle DVC 170 hardware device is creating
>> > > > confusion with
>> > > > the Windows Movie Maker 2 software on my PC???
>> > > >
>> > > > "Breadstick" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi- I forgot to mention that I use the Dazzle device to capture
>> > > > > from a vcr as
>> > > > > well as an analog camcorder.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "cyclone47" wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto
>> > > > > > my PC that
>> > > > > > has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which
>> > > > > > includes
>> > > > > > Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and
>> > > > > > built-in
>> > > > > > software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a
>> > > > > > direct analog to
>> > > > > > digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with
>> > > > > > the software
>> > > > > > program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was
>> > > > > > hoping I would
>> > > > > > also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle
>> > > > > > hardware to
>> > > > > > capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture
>> > > > > > video" from my
>> > > > > > VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message
>> > > > > > telling me that
>> > > > > > "The device is not responding. Close any other application
>> > > > > > that is using the
>> > > > > > device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software
>> > > > > > to transfer
>> > > > > > and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I
>> > > > > > like and I was
>> > > > > > hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle
>> > > > > > hardware hook-up.
>> > > > > > My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush-
>> > > > > > off
>> > > > > > responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their
>> > > > > > technical
>> > > > > > knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is
>> > > > > > not
>> > > > > > technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
>> > > > > > analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody
>> > > > > > with a lot more
>> > > > > > experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask,
>> > > > > > then I will
>> > > > > > never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any
>> > > > > > responses.

Newtechie
Wed Dec 20 21:17:25 CST 2006

Hi again Cyclone,

I don't know how much you paid for your Dazzle but in my personal opinion
I'd return it and get a TV tuner card. I got mine from Amazon for $65.
It's a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150MCE model. Here's a link just in case you're
interested. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00064GI2O/104-3557369-4179905

Newtechie

"cyclone47" <cyclone47@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B87454DB-6550-4C99-A9F5-CE8E55AC9F04@microsoft.com...
> Hi Newtechie
>
> I have tried using Windows Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle software open
> and
> closed both. Neither works. Same error messages. Interesting you should
> mention a TV tuner with your graphics card. Originally, before I bought
> this
> Dazzle package I had wondered that myself. I have the Windows XP Media
> Center Edition operating system on my PC, which you'd think would include
> a
> TV tuner as part of the package. Probaby does. At least in Dell's simple
> minded diagrams they show hooking a TV to my PC. I spent a couple of
> weeks
> though doing research on various websites (Dell, Microsoft, others,
> etc.)strying to figure out whether I still needed additional hardware that
> could transfer video from an analog device through a digital device into
> my
> PC for burning to a DVD. I know about the hook-up using a digital camera
> as
> the go between, etc., but wanted something a little more permanent. With
> all
> of these computer wizards working for Microsoft and Dell and posting their
> guru advice on their websites, I could not find one written statement or
> document anywhere that would "specifically" tell me whether the Windows XP
> Media Center Edition operating system on my PC would support the
> transferring
> of VHS video from an analog device to my PC for the sole purpose of
> burning
> to a DVD. Without having to purchase additional hardware to take analog
> to
> digital. I finally said the hell with it and went ahead and bought the
> Dazzle hardware/software package. I will go into msconfig and see if the
> Pinnacle software is running a process in the background that is
> interferring
> with Movie Maker 2. Worth a try. Thanks for response.
>
>
> "Newtechie" wrote:
>
>> Hi Cyclone,
>>
>> I experienced a problem similar to yours a couple years ago when I
>> started
>> with all this video editing. I used the Dazzle 80 for a couple of days
>> before returning it to Circuit City. I found my problem to be having
>> both
>> programs open at the same time. If you have Pinnacle open, try closing
>> it
>> and using just MM. I don't know if that'll work for you but it won't
>> hurt
>> to try. You might also have to end any processes that's related to
>> Pinnacle. If you're curious to why I returned my Dazzle, it's because I
>> had
>> a TV tuner on my graphics card and didn't know what it was at the
>> time...lol - it allows me to do capturing as well so it was need to have
>> two
>> of them.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Newtechie
>>
>> "cyclone47" <cyclone47@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6384A2B3-8F52-43FA-8BE7-9C79923DA871@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Breadstick
>> >
>> > I wish I was having your success. I am using the Dazzle DVC170 capture
>> > device. It was also my understanding from talking to the people (Best
>> > Buy)
>> > who sold me the Dazzle DVC170 hardware/sofware package that Windows
>> > Movie
>> > Maker 2 would also work with it for editing. The Dazzle DVC 170 shows
>> > up
>> > alright my in my Device Manager under "hardware" on my PC so I know it
>> > has
>> > loaded onto my PC alright, but for some reason Windows Movie Maker 2 is
>> > having trouble with it. I am trying to capture directly from a VCR.
>> > When
>> > I
>> > go into Windows Movie Maker 2 and hit "capture from video device", I
>> > get
>> > an
>> > error message that says, "The device is not responding. Close any
>> > other
>> > application that is using the device and try capturing again". When I
>> > hit
>> > the "ok" button on that error message, I get another error message
>> > along
>> > with
>> > the Move Maker 2 viceo device capture screen under it. That error
>> > message
>> > says, "The video device cannot be used at this time because there is an
>> > error
>> > when starting the device." I get both of these error messages whether
>> > I
>> > have
>> > the VCR turned on or not. I am having no trouble capturing video using
>> > the
>> > software that came with my Dazzle DVC 170 using my current hook-ups,
>> > but
>> > for
>> > some reason Move Maker 2 is not recognizing the Dazzle DVC 170 capture
>> > device. The DVC 170 hooks directly into one of the USB ports on my PC,
>> > so
>> > it
>> > is a no brainer hook-up. Is there anywhere that you can go and just
>> > download
>> > Windows Movie Maker 2 by itself without doing the entire XP Service
>> > Pack 2
>> > download. I am beginning to wonder if it is not a problem with how the
>> > program for Windows Movie Maker 2 was originally loaded onto my PC. I
>> > am
>> > also communicating with Pinnacle on this issue and they are telling me
>> > that
>> > Windows Movie Maker 2 should work with the Dazzle DVC 170. All I know
>> > is
>> > that there is something missing somewhere as far as connectivity
>> > between
>> > the
>> > two.
>> >
>> > "Breadstick" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi- I am using the Dazzle 80 program. I use the Dazzle 80 Capture
>> >> Device
>> >> with Windows Moviemaker. It works as well as with the Dazzle
>> >> software.
>> >> Just
>> >> be sure that after clicking "Capture from video device" in Moviemaker,
>> >> on
>> >> the
>> >> next pop-up panel you must be sure to configure it so that "Pinnacle
>> >> 80
>> >> Audio" shows in the dropdown, and go on from there to complete the
>> >> rest
>> >> of
>> >> the configuration. Then click "Next" to capture your movie. Be aware
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> fact that you will not hear the audio track while capturing the
>> >> movie--as
>> >> is
>> >> the case with the Dazzle software. This should work out OK. Let me
>> >> know.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "cyclone47" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my
>> >> > PC
>> >> > that
>> >> > has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which
>> >> > includes
>> >> > Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and
>> >> > built-in
>> >> > software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct
>> >> > analog to
>> >> > digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the
>> >> > software
>> >> > program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping
>> >> > I
>> >> > would
>> >> > also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware
>> >> > to
>> >> > capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video"
>> >> > from my
>> >> > VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling
>> >> > me
>> >> > that
>> >> > "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is
>> >> > using the
>> >> > device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to
>> >> > transfer
>> >> > and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like
>> >> > and
>> >> > I was
>> >> > hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware
>> >> > hook-up.
>> >> > My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
>> >> > responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their
>> >> > technical
>> >> > knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
>> >> > technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
>> >> > analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a
>> >> > lot
>> >> > more
>> >> > experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I
>> >> > will
>> >> > never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any
>> >> > responses.
>>
>>
>>

cyclone47
Wed Dec 20 21:47:00 CST 2006

I'm afraid you are right about returning the Dazzle. I will look into the TV
Tuner card as a replacement option. I am thinking I should just go to one of
the small PC builder/repair businesses here in town and get their input.
Should have probably done that in the first place. They will probably have
the right product to sell me also. Thanks again.

"Newtechie" wrote:

> Hi again Cyclone,
>
> I don't know how much you paid for your Dazzle but in my personal opinion
> I'd return it and get a TV tuner card. I got mine from Amazon for $65.
> It's a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150MCE model. Here's a link just in case you're
> interested. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00064GI2O/104-3557369-4179905
>
> Newtechie
>
> "cyclone47" <cyclone47@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B87454DB-6550-4C99-A9F5-CE8E55AC9F04@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Newtechie
> >
> > I have tried using Windows Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle software open
> > and
> > closed both. Neither works. Same error messages. Interesting you should
> > mention a TV tuner with your graphics card. Originally, before I bought
> > this
> > Dazzle package I had wondered that myself. I have the Windows XP Media
> > Center Edition operating system on my PC, which you'd think would include
> > a
> > TV tuner as part of the package. Probaby does. At least in Dell's simple
> > minded diagrams they show hooking a TV to my PC. I spent a couple of
> > weeks
> > though doing research on various websites (Dell, Microsoft, others,
> > etc.)strying to figure out whether I still needed additional hardware that
> > could transfer video from an analog device through a digital device into
> > my
> > PC for burning to a DVD. I know about the hook-up using a digital camera
> > as
> > the go between, etc., but wanted something a little more permanent. With
> > all
> > of these computer wizards working for Microsoft and Dell and posting their
> > guru advice on their websites, I could not find one written statement or
> > document anywhere that would "specifically" tell me whether the Windows XP
> > Media Center Edition operating system on my PC would support the
> > transferring
> > of VHS video from an analog device to my PC for the sole purpose of
> > burning
> > to a DVD. Without having to purchase additional hardware to take analog
> > to
> > digital. I finally said the hell with it and went ahead and bought the
> > Dazzle hardware/software package. I will go into msconfig and see if the
> > Pinnacle software is running a process in the background that is
> > interferring
> > with Movie Maker 2. Worth a try. Thanks for response.
> >
> >
> > "Newtechie" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Cyclone,
> >>
> >> I experienced a problem similar to yours a couple years ago when I
> >> started
> >> with all this video editing. I used the Dazzle 80 for a couple of days
> >> before returning it to Circuit City. I found my problem to be having
> >> both
> >> programs open at the same time. If you have Pinnacle open, try closing
> >> it
> >> and using just MM. I don't know if that'll work for you but it won't
> >> hurt
> >> to try. You might also have to end any processes that's related to
> >> Pinnacle. If you're curious to why I returned my Dazzle, it's because I
> >> had
> >> a TV tuner on my graphics card and didn't know what it was at the
> >> time...lol - it allows me to do capturing as well so it was need to have
> >> two
> >> of them.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >> Newtechie
> >>
> >> "cyclone47" <cyclone47@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6384A2B3-8F52-43FA-8BE7-9C79923DA871@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Breadstick
> >> >
> >> > I wish I was having your success. I am using the Dazzle DVC170 capture
> >> > device. It was also my understanding from talking to the people (Best
> >> > Buy)
> >> > who sold me the Dazzle DVC170 hardware/sofware package that Windows
> >> > Movie
> >> > Maker 2 would also work with it for editing. The Dazzle DVC 170 shows
> >> > up
> >> > alright my in my Device Manager under "hardware" on my PC so I know it
> >> > has
> >> > loaded onto my PC alright, but for some reason Windows Movie Maker 2 is
> >> > having trouble with it. I am trying to capture directly from a VCR.
> >> > When
> >> > I
> >> > go into Windows Movie Maker 2 and hit "capture from video device", I
> >> > get
> >> > an
> >> > error message that says, "The device is not responding. Close any
> >> > other
> >> > application that is using the device and try capturing again". When I
> >> > hit
> >> > the "ok" button on that error message, I get another error message
> >> > along
> >> > with
> >> > the Move Maker 2 viceo device capture screen under it. That error
> >> > message
> >> > says, "The video device cannot be used at this time because there is an
> >> > error
> >> > when starting the device." I get both of these error messages whether
> >> > I
> >> > have
> >> > the VCR turned on or not. I am having no trouble capturing video using
> >> > the
> >> > software that came with my Dazzle DVC 170 using my current hook-ups,
> >> > but
> >> > for
> >> > some reason Move Maker 2 is not recognizing the Dazzle DVC 170 capture
> >> > device. The DVC 170 hooks directly into one of the USB ports on my PC,
> >> > so
> >> > it
> >> > is a no brainer hook-up. Is there anywhere that you can go and just
> >> > download
> >> > Windows Movie Maker 2 by itself without doing the entire XP Service
> >> > Pack 2
> >> > download. I am beginning to wonder if it is not a problem with how the
> >> > program for Windows Movie Maker 2 was originally loaded onto my PC. I
> >> > am
> >> > also communicating with Pinnacle on this issue and they are telling me
> >> > that
> >> > Windows Movie Maker 2 should work with the Dazzle DVC 170. All I know
> >> > is
> >> > that there is something missing somewhere as far as connectivity
> >> > between
> >> > the
> >> > two.
> >> >
> >> > "Breadstick" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi- I am using the Dazzle 80 program. I use the Dazzle 80 Capture
> >> >> Device
> >> >> with Windows Moviemaker. It works as well as with the Dazzle
> >> >> software.
> >> >> Just
> >> >> be sure that after clicking "Capture from video device" in Moviemaker,
> >> >> on
> >> >> the
> >> >> next pop-up panel you must be sure to configure it so that "Pinnacle
> >> >> 80
> >> >> Audio" shows in the dropdown, and go on from there to complete the
> >> >> rest
> >> >> of
> >> >> the configuration. Then click "Next" to capture your movie. Be aware
> >> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> fact that you will not hear the audio track while capturing the
> >> >> movie--as
> >> >> is
> >> >> the case with the Dazzle software. This should work out OK. Let me
> >> >> know.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "cyclone47" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I recently loaded Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum onto my
> >> >> > PC
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > has the Microsoft XP Media Center operating system on it, which
> >> >> > includes
> >> >> > Windows Movie Maker 2. With the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware and
> >> >> > built-in
> >> >> > software package, I can hook my analog VCR to my PC and do a direct
> >> >> > analog to
> >> >> > digital transfer of VHS tapes onto my PC. Then I can edit with the
> >> >> > software
> >> >> > program that came with Dazzle Video Creator Platinum. I was hoping
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > also be able to use Movie Maker 2 with the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > capture and edit video if I chose to. When I try to "capture video"
> >> >> > from my
> >> >> > VCR using Windows Movie Maker 2 then I get an error message telling
> >> >> > me
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > "The device is not responding. Close any other application that is
> >> >> > using the
> >> >> > device and try capturing again." I can use the Dazzle software to
> >> >> > transfer
> >> >> > and edit, but Windows Movie Maker 2 has some functions that I like
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > I was
> >> >> > hoping it would recognize my VCR via the Pinnacle/Dazzle hardware
> >> >> > hook-up.
> >> >> > My emails to Pinnacle have gotten me nothing but dumb or brush- off
> >> >> > responses, so I think I have asked them something beyond their
> >> >> > technical
> >> >> > knowledge of their own product. Maybe Windows Movie Maker 2 is not
> >> >> > technically advanced enough yet to recognize and handle another
> >> >> > analog-digital transfer device? But I guess I want somebody with a
> >> >> > lot
> >> >> > more
> >> >> > experience than mine to give me that bad news. Unless I ask, then I
> >> >> > will
> >> >> > never know if there is an answer out there. Thanks for any
> >> >> > responses.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

cyclone47
Wed Dec 20 21:55:00 CST 2006

Hi Breadstick

I wil check it out. Thanks for your input also. I may take Newtechie's
advice and scratch the Dazzle for a TV Tuner card. This time I will go to
one of the small shop PC builders here in town and get their expertise.
Should have done that in the first place, but I thought this would be a
simple deal. WRONG! To heck with the big box electronics stores.

"Breadstick" wrote:

> Hi cyclone49- You might want to check this website:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/deanro/archive/2005/01/18/355050.aspx It has info
> regarding SP2 and a way to check Moviemaker's files. Worth a look. Breadstick
>
> "cyclone47" wrote:
>
> > Hello again Breadstick
> >
> > The "test" video that I captured from my VCR into Pinnacle Studio 10 is in
> > the mpg format. For capturing video the Pinnacle Studio 10 software only
> > gives me three choices for video format: Mpg-1/2, Mpg-4, and DivX. Anyway,
> > the test video I created using Pinnacle Studio 10 is an mpg formated video.
> > It plays on my Windows Media Player 11 just fine, so the video itself seems
> > to have transferred alright using the Dazzle DVC 170 and Pinnacle Studio 10.
> > Just don't know why my particular edition of Windows Movie Maker 2 (version
> > 2.1.4026.0) doesn't like it. Thanks again for response. I will keep trying
> > to figure this thing out.
> >
> >
> > "Breadstick" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi cyclone47- When you tried this method of capturing in mm 2 was the
> > > Pinnacle file in the .avi form? Just for the heck of it, why not try it this
> > > way. Edit out a portion of that avi file, in the Pinnacle window, and save
> > > that portion to the .mpg (MPEG) choice that Pinnacle gives you -- at least
> > > mine works that way. Then see if Moviemaker will take it. Can you import and
> > > work with any other video in Moviemaker? Give System Restore a try if you
> > > haven't already.
> > >
> > > "cyclone47" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello again Breadstick
> > > >
> > > > I tried the method of capturing the video throught the Pinnacle Studio 10
> > > > software and then trying to do the edit process in Windows Movie Maker 2.
> > > > When I try to do the "import video" step I get another error message that
> > > > tells me " the video could not be imported because an interface has too many
> > > > methods to fire events from". Whatever the heck that means! I would be
> > > > happy if I at least could do that because there are some aspects of Movie
> > > > Maker 2 software that I also like over the Pinnacle Studio 10 software for
> > > > editing. Totally frustrating here. I know I already have the SP2 upgrade on
> > > > my PC, but I have gone ahead and ordered a CD from Microsoft with the dim
> > > > assumption that something might not have loaded properly with the Windows
> > > > Movie Maker 2 portion of the SP2 upgrade patch. I am hoping I can manually
> > > > go into that CD and just dowload the Windows Movie Maker 2 portion. I am
> > > > also in email contact with Pinnacle concerning the Dazzle DVC 170
> > > > capabilities, but initially they are telling me that Windows Movie Maker 2
> > > > should work. There is a glitch in the system somewhere. Probably a setting
> > > > that needs to be adjusted, etc., etc.. I'm not going to bother bringing the
> > > > so-called Dell techs into this because I'm sure they have no answers. They
> > > > just sell their PC's with Microsoft operating systems and Microsoft palms off
> > > > any technical issues back to the Dell people, even though it's their
> > > > operating system. I haven't found a way yet to communicate with the
> > > > Microsoft technical people via email. Their technical help sight just wants
> > > > to send you back to Dell. The jerks.
> > > >
> > > > "Breadstick" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi cyclone47- I really understand your frustration. I installed the software
> > > > > that came with the Dazzle 80 capture device. The software is called
> > > > > Pinnacalle Studio 9 Quick Start Version 9.3.2. The Studio 9 program captures
> > > > > vcr tapes well. After a project is rendered and saved as an .avi file, open
> > > > > it into Moviemaker. The end result is essentially the same as doing it
> > > > > directly in MM2 except for the extra step. So if all else fails you could do
> > > > > it this way as a workaround--hopefully. Moviemaker is more friendly for me to
> > > > > work with.
> > > > > In the MM2 capure configuration window, the Pinnacalle 80 audio icon must
> > > > > show. When it is highlighted the "audio sound bar" blinks, indicating, to me
> > > > > at least, that the sound is active. The selection in the dropdown menu below
> > > > > must be "Pinnaclle audio". Then if you hold your breath you're off and
> > > > > running.
> > > > > I have MM 2.1. If you have MM 2 it may mean you need 2.1 -- I don't really
> > > > > know. Ordering an SP2 Disc from Microsoft (free) would ease the pain a bit
> > > > > if it were to be installed. If any of this isn't clear, let me know.
> > > > > Breadstick
> > > > > "cyclone47" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Breadstick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have any Pinnacle capture/ediitng software that came with your Dazzle
> > > > > > DVC 80 hardware device? Maybe the Pinnacle 10 capture/editing software that
> > > > > > I loaded with my Dazzle DVC 170 hardware device is creating confusion with
> > > > > > the Windows Movie Maker 2 software on my PC???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Breadstick" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi- I forgot to mention that I use the Dazzle device to capture from a vcr as
> > > > > > > well as an analog camcorde