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    - Problem with installation. A while back I installed MM2 and after it was installed and it began updating my collection, an error occurred. When I got back into the program, MM2 was installed, but I don't have my collection and I only have 2 video effects (slow down, half and speed up, double) and I have no video transitions. Is there any way I can fix this? Thanks! Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18482
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    - Storyboard gives poor quality video I have used Windows Movie Maker to capture video from my DV Video Camera at 25mpbs (The highest possible rate When i preview the AVI file itself, it looks fine, but when i add it to the Storyboard, the quality of the video goes down, giving a grainy, jumpy image with lots of lines through it Why is this happening? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18477
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    - Difficlty Saving As Movie File. Hello everyone! I am experiencing a difficulty with my movie maker! I really need some assistance, please!! I created a slieshow with photos and audio. In the preview looks fantastic! But. I've saved the project as movie1.MSWMM on my computer but I can't save my project as a movie file to my computer, or burn on CD or send via E-mail or any other options... Anyway, I got this message saying "Cannot Complete the Save Movie Wizard, Your movie was not saved successfully" and â??Windows Movie Maker cannot save the movie to the specified location. Verify that the original source files used in your movie are still available, that the saving location is still available, and that there is enough free disk space available, and then try againâ?? Now I'd like to know why movie maker can't save the files as movie but only to MSWMM? I've tried everything. All my files are there, it just doesn't make any cents I tested, i made another two, and few of really short ones, and still doesn't work Do I maybe need to reinstall my movie maker? Or what do you thing it is? Thanks guys! PS. PapaJohn! I've visited your site, it's got everything and it's pretty good. But still didn't help me with "saving your movie"... :( Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18476
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    - Analog capture and conversion..... Bought a Pinnacle Studio 8 product for analog capture from both VCR and Analog Camcorder. Did a LOUSY job from the very start. Pinnacle doesn't tell you that you need to buy a separate sound card to capture the audio, as thier software does not use the resident audio inputs from most computers (I've tried 2 different machines) so that was an ordeal Yesterday, successfully captured (with Pinnacle) a VCR tape. Used WMM to "convert" the file. Took HOURS (on a brand new high end machine). Video came out choppy and lousy. So.... Now I guess I'm gonna try capturing from VCR to my digital camcorder and try it that way. WMM SHOULD allow for capture through someone else's capture card OR.. Pinnacle should make the captured file into something that other programs can use and use and recognize. It doesn't. It makes a proprietary file type that only Pinnacle can recognize (and consequently burn to DVD) but that didn't work either. Got an "error" when trying to get Pinnacle to burn the DVD.... oh well I'm starting to think that maybe I should buy one of those new VCR/DVD burner combos and the heck with all this wasted time and effort. Bought so much hardware and spent SO much time that now I feel COMPELLED to try to do it.... : Sorry about the rant Steve Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18473
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    - DirectX 9 ? Paging PapaJohn~ What exactly is DirectX 9? How do I tell if I have it and will downloading it be "ok"? I looked for the file Divxaf.ax to rename but no such file exist. I seem to have a multitude of problems with WMM2. Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18472
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    - How to Compress AVIs (FRAPS) I recently recorded a video using FRAPS (www.fraps.com) and now I would like to compress it using Windows Movie Maker (v1.1). The thing is, I'm a complete newbie at this and all I want to do is compress the video (no editing, nothing else). How do I do this (and save it as a .avi file)? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18469
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    - Codecs? I have spent a ton of hours on a presentation but can't get it to burn to a CD. All of these are jpeg pics that I am trying to transfer. So does that confirm they are not CODECS? I have no idea what that even is? I can burn a smaller version of the same pics but when I do this one (just under 1000 pics) and I try to save it hangs up at the window where it shows the % left and the estimated minutes remaining. I have a Pent 4 with 2.4 mhz and 1 gig of RAM so memory should not be a problem. Suggestions? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18464
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    - Preview of video input flickers I'm trying to capture video with my ATI card. I can hear the audio, and I can see the video - but it is full of lines and it flickers. It is also sometimes half solid green instead of the video image. I have tried to change the resolution and frame rate in the capture settings, but the program always reverts back to the default instead of using the settings I specify. Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18458
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    - hola por que no puedo reproducir esta peliculas Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18451
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    - some tapes won't be captured why do some tapes capture and some don't. they're identical. i use firewire. it even recognises the tape in there and rewinds it and everything but when it starts to capture all i see is a black screen. no audio or video. please help. it's three in the morning and i've been at this for four hours. thank you so much shaan Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18448
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    - There is NO CD BURNER I finished my first slide show. Added music, titles, effects, the works. Plays great. Save it to hard disk. Tried to put it on a CD and the program insists that there is no CD in my burner. WRONG. There is. Changed CD. Re-Started Windows XP. Nothing, same message. Read instructions to remove "imapi.exe" Such file is NOT in my computer. Tried to burn a DVD. Nothing. The software does not "see" that there is a DVD in the burner either. I have the latest version of the program 2.0.3312.0 I just got my new computer with Windows XP last week and just today tried the Movie Maker. Am I missing a patch? Thanks for info Bert Delgado delgad_b@bellsouth.net Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18447
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    - Quicktime movies how can i import quicktime movies from my olympus digital camera? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18445
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    - Movie maker not working Ok I need help with windows movie maker, i think i deleted the first one by accident and then i installed windows movie maker 2 and everytime i open it and import a file into my collections it just comes up saying dont send errory or send error report, what do i do? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18439
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    - Importing Where is the firewire on the Sony CDD-TRV98 Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18437
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    - Cannot Save a Movie I just finished editing my movie but when I go to create it nothing happens. "Please wait while we create your movie" appears but it doesn't go any farther. Also when I try to play the entire storyboard it doesn't play. I put all the clips together without editing them and the storyboard played fine and the movie would save. All I have done to the clips for my movie is shorten them and made transitions, why is this effecting whether it will save or not? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18434
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    - Timeline Delete My movie is completed, but I have 30 seconds of blank timeline that I want to get rid of before i save the movie. Anyone know how to do this? ...thanks.... Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18433
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    - Movie maker keeps shutting down I have a problem with movie maker shutting down. I have lowered the acceleration setting to 0, I have renamed the codec's - nothing seems to work. The programs seems to shut down at different points - including adding slides, music and saving the movie. I am running XP Home addition service pack 1 with a 2.4ghz Pentium 4 computer. Any ideas? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18429
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    - Saving Movie File I made a slideshow with still photos, transitions and audio tracks. When I save the project as a movie, it reads as 125MB. Then after it burns onto the hard drive, in my video folder it reads as 62MB. When I play the movie back on Windows Media Player, the audio runs through the entire sequence. However, about half way through the slideshow the pictures freeze and stop coming. I have tried re-saving half a dozen times. I cannot figure out why the project is not saving the entire slideshow, but rather just all the music and half the still pictures. Please help! I'm trying to make an end of the year video for my high school students and the last days of school are fastly approaching. Please email if you can: eparker78@msn.com Thank you Eric Parker Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18427
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    - How do you import clips from a DVD I've been trying to get clips from a DVD and I was wondering how do you import them from a DVD. It keeps on saying that it doesn't support it. Is there a way I can change that? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18419
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    - Effects and Transitions have dissapeared I came home on Friday (May 28th), booted up my computer and opened Movie Maker 2 to find that all effects and transitions have dissapeared, except for "slow down" and "speed up" After attempting to open movie maker in someone else's account on the same computer, rebooting the computer, and reinstalling movie maker, the problem was not fixed Can anyone please tell me what to do to fix this. Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18400
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    - Importing music The Movie Maker will not import music from my Microsoft Media Player 9 program. The music does not show up as existing at all in the My Music file even though it has been copied into the Media Player. Also, if I try to import the CD directly into the Movie Maker from the CD- Audio drive, it does not recognize the CD at all. The only music it recognizes is the Sample Music which came with the computer. Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18396
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    - Cannot copy to cd or transfer to dv camera I made a video using pictures of my daughter starting from when she was born to now for her graduation video. When I tried burning to cd, only some of the pictures were there but all of the music selections were there. And when I tried transfering to my sony dv camera to put on tape it says there is not enough disk space. Apparently the pic's I scanned into the computer for the video's is taking up all of my disc space. My question is, is there an online storage place to put my video so I can burn to cd or transfer to my camera so I can record to tape. I am using Sony VIAO RS430G. Camera I am using is a Sony mini dv. Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18391
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    - cmedia & movie maker crashes When saving a movie or putting one together. Movie Maker crashes saying the cmedia audio driver is outdated. So I am directed to the cmedia site, where after much guess work I download the update. Once installed I try it again and for a few days it will work. Then out of the blue it starts all over again. Can Anybody HELP?????? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18389
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    - shuts off whenever i turn the Windows Movie Maker 2 on and try to load my files the program shuts off. whats wrong? i tried uninstalling it and reinstall but it keeps shutting off. why? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18388
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    - Unistalling Moview Maker I can not capture video using MM2 and would like to uninstall it, but I can not find how to. It is not in remove programmes panel in the control Panel. I have boight another product which works fine, look like MS have a major problem with this software, it keeps saying it can not find a capture card ??? But the other software works fine ???? Please let me know how to un install ??? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18376
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    - Unable to save slideshow to CD or HD Hi to all Created my 1st slideshow with graphics files and audio on my HD. It all ran perfectly. I saved the project to my local HD. However when I wanted to save as a movie file, I received prompt that the destination folder did not exist, which is untrue. Or some of the files used were moved, renamed, etc.... This is also untrue. I am totally stumped.... Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18373
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    - .WMV to .MPG Hi Is there any free programs i can use to convert WMV to MPG? Thanks Sam Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18367
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    - Problem with viewing video in Timeline but views fine in Collection Field I am able to view a video from the collection field but as soon as I add it to my timeline I can hear the audio but the screen is black. I have no problem viewing the same clip with Windows media player. What is the problem Also I can input video through my firewire using Roxio VideoWave Movie Creator but I cannot through Movie Maker. I am running Window Professional on a Dell 3.06 Hyper Threading machine. Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18352
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    - title overlays My problem seems to be ,that when I add a title overlay on the clip,it shows on the clip.Howeever if one plays with the zoom in or zoom out in th etimeline the title overlay does not stay where I placed in the clip.This also happens when one inserts an extra frame before the selected clip,the tile does not saty where it was originally place I have Pinnacle Studio 8,and when you place a title on a clip and then insert a clip before the selected clip,the title satys in the same place.It seems to me that you should also be able to do that in MM2 What am I doing wrong? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18351
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    - digital photos no longer in focus Ok I need some help. I have used Adobe Photoshop album to make simple slideshows. I don't do anything to the photos except drag them to the desired position. However when I do the same with moviemaker2 which provides so much more extras, the slideshow is clearly not in focus. It looks just slightly out of focus. The photos are taken with a 6.0 meg Fuji camera and again I don't do anything like resize them or change them for Adobe so I fugured it should be the same for moviemaker2. Help cause the program look so cool. Please be nice because some of you look like you are sorta mean. I guess I will take my chances..Thanks so much for any nice input, and my sons baseball team will thankyou also karen Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18350
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    - Movie Maker 3 Has anyone heard of Movie Maker 3 coming out with improved features? I haven't but would welcome a newer version. Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18349
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    - clips in Collections I have just capture from my camcorder 16 minutes of video using the Capture Video Wizard and the 'Start Capture' and 'Stop Capture' method. I then clicked on FINISH expecting to see a couple dozen clips populate the Collections area. What I got, however, was one long clip in the Collections area that has everything thing in it that I thought I was breaking into separate clips using the 'Start'/'Stop' procedure. I have overlooked an important step here? Your suggestions are welcome./ John Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18348
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    - Audio Mixing Is Window's Movie Maker capable of laying down a variety of music blending in the same "movie". I have filmed a wedding and want to have music only that I add. in the beginning; then the original sound track I imported from my digital camera into the computer; and finally, a mix of the original audio track with music that I add in the end for the recap. I discovered the Audio-levels option but it seems to only allow me to have a certain blend of original sound track from the tape to added music for the entire movie. Not allowing me to splice where I want the audio/music levels to change. Any suggestions? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18346
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    - DVD Drive How do I change drive designation? Moviemaker shows drive E: but my DVD writer is drive H: Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18342
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    - DVD making The several DVD burning programs I have will not open the Windows Movie Maker files so that I can put my project on a disc - do I have to buy ANOTHER DVD-making program (ie the Sonic MyDVD I see on the Web)?! Is that the only one that will do the job, or what? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18336
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    - Complaint Hello, Mr Brown and Mr. Eddy. Please take this message as notice that I will be complaining formally about one of your employee's a mr denny who uses the honorific MS-MVP If you look at all of his messages in this newsgroup over say the last week you will find I am sure that his remarks are anything but helpful. At least one remark is quite insulting. I will be compiling a full list of his messages and messages from those who seek to support him and detailing my complaint in writing by ordinary post. My purpose here is to pre-warn you of its arrival, so that if it does not soon arrive on your desks you will be able to query where it is. I am very unhappy with the way this newsgroup is administered and the quality of some of your MVP's At least two of them seem to be employees of your company. I find it very hard to believe that your company is happy to employ people who advertise that they are your employees and MVP's and then conduct themselves in the way they do I once again make the remark that these MVP's have hardly covered themselves in any form of glory, again, and ask, when will you deal with them so that ordinary users can help others without being bombarded with insults and inferences of being a liar? John Kelly www.the-kellys.org www.the-kellys.co.uk Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18334
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    - windows movie maker when building a movie i drag and drop clips onto the time line.OK so far but when i press the play button nothing happens.I have tryed this with a few clips and with one clip result is the same.any ideas please. Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18332
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    - Make transfer time shorter When I'm done filming and when I hook up my camcorder to transfer it to the computer, I need to shorten the time it takes to transfer. To put what I need on the computer, I need to play it all out! I'm filming a wedding, and that would be about 8 hours! I tried fast-forwarding the film, but then it appears fast-forwarded when I try to edit it. Please help! Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18328
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    - Can't Save Movie to Local File I'm experiencing an "all of the sudden" problem saving a Movie File. I'm attempting to save it to "My Computer" like I always do and then after completing the wizard it waits a few minutes and indicates that it's trying to write a Recordable CD format. At this point it just sits there (i.e. no % progress) and the number of minutes remaining is huge. I've been using Movie Maker for over a year and this just started happening this week. I've ensured that the save path is my local hard drive and even tried saving to another hard drive in the same system to see if that would work, but no luck. It's also worth noting that I don't even have a Recordable CD drive installed on the machine I'm using for this task. Any ideas? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18295
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    - DV camera "pass-through" Has anyone out there successfully used the "pass-through" capabilities of the newer digital camcorders to capture video from an analog camcorder? I am about to purchase a digital camcorder and get into video editing, and I would like to know if this "pass- through" ability will allow me to capture and edit all my analog video as well. Thanks, Dennis Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18276
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    - upgrade I've downloaded movie maker 2 but movie maker 1 still works. Why? Or how can I get 2 working? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18268
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    - Loud Sound As Audio Fades In the movie that I'm making I use lots of audio/music clips (wav files). In almost all cases I only use a portion of the music clip -- fading it in or out as the situation requires. On many of the clips where I fade it out (before the actual clip ends) there is a loud noise/squawk right at the very end, just after the fade. It sounds terrible and readjusting the end of the clip makes no difference. It doesn't happen of every clip but it does happen frequently. Does anyone else have this same problem? Is there a solution? Thanks in advance. Note: I'm playing my first MovieMaker project tomorrow (Saturday) night for 150 people! The project is complete except for two loud sqawks that I'd like to take out if I have the time. Ed Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18258
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    - TabletPC capture problem ? Any ideas ? I have 2 laptop computers that I use. I use an OranLink FireWire CardBus, that I move from laptop to laptop. One has Win 2000 Pro and WinDV, for example, works great. Capture works every time - no problems whatsoever. My newer one runs XP Pro - it's a TabletPC from Toshiba (Portege 3500). I have read that the TabletPC version of XP Pro includes SP1. My other laptop, running Win 2000 Pro has all the current MS updates installed. Here is my problem. First off, my XP Pro laptop would not capture at all, so I started investigating. In desperation, I reinstalled XP Pro from the Toshiba recovery CDs and had the unit in factory condition. Nothing else installed except for the OrangeLink FireWire driver and WinDV. With nothing else installed, WinDV captures well. Everything works great then. But if I install any or all of the recommend security patches from MS - and there are several - capture is no longer possible. It will start capturing for 3-5 seconds, WinDV freezes up and the camera continues to play the footage. I have tried and tried to install a select number of patches, but anyone of them will cause the same problem. I am unusure of the solution and have not really found the exact same problem documented anywhere... By the way, I did try other capturing software (Ulead, Pinnacle Studio and Win MovieMaker 2) and all have the exact same problem. Do you have any ideas ? Best regards, Denis Shelston Toronto, Canada Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18256
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    - Which choice for excellent DVD playback? I want to burn my movie to a DVD (first time for me!) so first I will save my movie to my computer. Which setting should I choose Under other settings A) DV-AVI (NTSC B) High Quality Video (NTSC Which is better? And if they are the same why have two choices Or should I use this setting Best Quality for playback on my computer (recommended So many choices . . . but which one will give me the BEST quality video on my DVD Thank you Su Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18255
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    - Copying a DVD I need to copy a DVD (legal!). I am looking for software for this. Help says I use the Roxio CD creator. I can't find it on my XP setup. I don't think I deleted it. Where could it be? Can I get it? Should I use something else? Joel Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18254
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    - Movie maker 2 crashes to desktop Hi can anyone help please, i have movie maker 2 but everytime i try and put an effect in it keeps crashing to desktop, is there any patch i have to install or anything? any ideas anyone?? Thanks Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18252
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    - movie maker do not see my s-video input when I plug my video digital video camera into the s-video port it does not see it Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18251
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    - MAKING A MOVIE TAKES MANY HOURS Making a movie from a project (of about 75 minutes film) took more than 8 hours and still there was no end. At that time the process stayed at 80 % and the remaining time was rising ??!! I stopped the process. How can I get normal proccesing times. Computer 1,7 G and memory 640 Mb. Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18250
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    - Need more CPU for MM2 I am running an AMD Athlon 1700+, with 1024mb of DDR SDRAM. I was saving a MM2 project as a movie, and the 700mb file took about 4 hours to encode. During this time my CPU usage was about 1%. On the "Performance settings" page the CPU and RAM are set for best performance of programs. Is there a way that I can make the processor work harder so that encoding goes quicker? Tag: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing Tag: 18246

I'm able to save in a high resolution (which I have to
have for full screen), but when I play the video about
halfway through the images freeze. Strangely enough the
audio doesn't freeze. Has anyone else had this problem
and figured out what to do?

I'm running a fast machine with XP and two gigs of
memory.

RE: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing by anonymous

anonymous
Sun May 30 16:26:05 CDT 2004

I am experiencing the same problem, except my movie plays until the last ten minutes and then the picture freezes, but like yours, my audio still plays. I have worked and worked and worked with this and I can't figure out what is going wrong. If you find out before I do, PLEASE let me know! I sure hope someone can fix this problem. Thanks!

Re: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing by print_maker

print_maker
Sun May 30 20:36:07 CDT 2004

You say it freezes when you play the video - but do not say what you are
playing it with? also - tell us what format and bitrate you captured the
video in...

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> I'm able to save in a high resolution (which I have to
> have for full screen), but when I play the video about
> halfway through the images freeze. Strangely enough the
> audio doesn't freeze. Has anyone else had this problem
> and figured out what to do?
>
> I'm running a fast machine with XP and two gigs of
> memory.

RE: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing by anonymous

anonymous
Sun May 30 20:36:02 CDT 2004

Ok.... PapaJohn is a genius. I was reading on his website (www.papajohn.org) and it said that the file is too complex. Go to his website and read the article on Problem Solving->Can't Save a Movie. It will give you some GREAT advice. Good luck!

RE: Images Freeze 1/2 way through playing by anonymous

anonymous
Mon May 31 04:36:02 CDT 2004

I am having EXACTLY the same problem@!@@ and it is driving me CRAZY!
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.