'Clips' do not auto-generate

When I capture Hi8 video as a .wmv file (via a Canopus
ADVC100) the video is split into clips during the post
capture processing. However, when I capture the same
video as a .avi file the video is never split into clips -
-even with the 'split' option selected. Also, after the
capture is completed, right clicking and selecting
the 'split' option does not work either --it goes through
the motions of creating clips, but the "Clips Created"
count remains at 0.

What is the reason for the different reactions to the two
different file types?

Is there a way to have clips created without having to
manually split the video?

The PC is a 2.4GHz, with 256MB, the system drive (c) is
45GB and the video is being captured/edited on a 140GB
drive (e).

PapaJohn
Mon Oct 27 22:59:04 CST 2003

See the section about Auto Clip creation on the Importing Source Files...
Video Clips page of my website.
--
PapaJohn
www.papajohn.org

"bpa64" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:03fc01c39cef$b1129e10$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> When I capture Hi8 video as a .wmv file (via a Canopus
> ADVC100) the video is split into clips during the post
> capture processing. However, when I capture the same
> video as a .avi file the video is never split into clips -
> -even with the 'split' option selected. Also, after the
> capture is completed, right clicking and selecting
> the 'split' option does not work either --it goes through
> the motions of creating clips, but the "Clips Created"
> count remains at 0.
>
> What is the reason for the different reactions to the two
> different file types?
>
> Is there a way to have clips created without having to
> manually split the video?
>
> The PC is a 2.4GHz, with 256MB, the system drive (c) is
> 45GB and the video is being captured/edited on a 140GB
> drive (e).
>

bpa64
Mon Oct 27 23:56:09 CST 2003

The section you refer to is actually where I found out
about the '2nd' opportunity to create clips (eg: right
clicking).

As I understand your explanation, about how MM2
determines where to split into clips, the process should
work even though my original video is analog (with the
Canpous unit & 1394 card generating a functionally
equivalent DV-AVI data stream). The PC seems to consider
the data stream as if it were indeed coming from a
Digital camcorder --WinXP recognizes it as a "AVC
Compliant DV Tape Recorder/Player" aka "Digital camera".

Is there something that I am missing? Should I be able
to have MM2 auto-generate clips?


>-----Original Message-----
>See the section about Auto Clip creation on the
Importing Source Files...
>Video Clips page of my website.
>--
>PapaJohn
>www.papajohn.org
>
>"bpa64" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:03fc01c39cef$b1129e10$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> When I capture Hi8 video as a .wmv file (via a Canopus
>> ADVC100) the video is split into clips during the post
>> capture processing. However, when I capture the same
>> video as a .avi file the video is never split into
clips -
>> -even with the 'split' option selected. Also, after
the
>> capture is completed, right clicking and selecting
>> the 'split' option does not work either --it goes
through
>> the motions of creating clips, but the "Clips Created"
>> count remains at 0.
>>
>> What is the reason for the different reactions to the
two
>> different file types?
>>
>> Is there a way to have clips created without having to
>> manually split the video?
>>
>> The PC is a 2.4GHz, with 256MB, the system drive (c) is
>> 45GB and the video is being captured/edited on a 140GB
>> drive (e).
>>
>
>
>.
>

PapaJohn
Tue Oct 28 00:23:34 CST 2003

It seems that you are bringing in your analog tape as a digital video file,
which has no timecode (or breaks in timecode to establish markers).

If you keep the clips in DV-AVI form, MM2 won't do auto clip detection. You
would have to save it as a high quality WMV and then it would do the optical
splitting of the WMV file which has no markers.

I'm sure the section can be better written, as I understand it better
myself.

PapaJohn

"bpa64" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05e001c39d18$2f730970$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> The section you refer to is actually where I found out
> about the '2nd' opportunity to create clips (eg: right
> clicking).
>
> As I understand your explanation, about how MM2
> determines where to split into clips, the process should
> work even though my original video is analog (with the
> Canpous unit & 1394 card generating a functionally
> equivalent DV-AVI data stream). The PC seems to consider
> the data stream as if it were indeed coming from a
> Digital camcorder --WinXP recognizes it as a "AVC
> Compliant DV Tape Recorder/Player" aka "Digital camera".
>
> Is there something that I am missing? Should I be able
> to have MM2 auto-generate clips?
>

bpa64
Tue Oct 28 17:31:06 CST 2003

Is this a flaw (or at least an inconsistency) in MM2? If
I capture the analog video, using the setup described, as
a WMV file it does indeed have clips auto-created.
However if I capture the same analog video, using the
setup described, as a DV-AVI file it does not have clips
auto-created.

It would seem that the data from the Canopus/1394 setup
does include timecode/marker information, yet MM2 DV-AVI
format does not utilize the information. Is this
correct??


>-----Original Message-----
>It seems that you are bringing in your analog tape as a
digital video file,
>which has no timecode (or breaks in timecode to
establish markers).
>
>If you keep the clips in DV-AVI form, MM2 won't do auto
clip detection. You
>would have to save it as a high quality WMV and then it
would do the optical
>splitting of the WMV file which has no markers.
>
>I'm sure the section can be better written, as I
understand it better
>myself.
>
>PapaJohn
>
>"bpa64" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:05e001c39d18$2f730970$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> The section you refer to is actually where I found out
>> about the '2nd' opportunity to create clips (eg: right
>> clicking).
>>
>> As I understand your explanation, about how MM2
>> determines where to split into clips, the process
should
>> work even though my original video is analog (with the
>> Canpous unit & 1394 card generating a functionally
>> equivalent DV-AVI data stream). The PC seems to
consider
>> the data stream as if it were indeed coming from a
>> Digital camcorder --WinXP recognizes it as a "AVC
>> Compliant DV Tape Recorder/Player" aka "Digital
camera".
>>
>> Is there something that I am missing? Should I be able
>> to have MM2 auto-generate clips?
>>
>
>
>.
>

PapaJohn
Thu Oct 30 12:46:34 CST 2003

I can see how you might think of it as an inconsistency. I'd be interested
in any suggested rewording of the info on my website to make things clearer.
Thanks
--
PapaJohn
www.papajohn.org


"bpa64" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:061701c39dab$8f5337f0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Is this a flaw (or at least an inconsistency) in MM2? If
> I capture the analog video, using the setup described, as
> a WMV file it does indeed have clips auto-created.
> However if I capture the same analog video, using the
> setup described, as a DV-AVI file it does not have clips
> auto-created.
>
> It would seem that the data from the Canopus/1394 setup
> does include timecode/marker information, yet MM2 DV-AVI
> format does not utilize the information. Is this
> correct??
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >It seems that you are bringing in your analog tape as a
> digital video file,
> >which has no timecode (or breaks in timecode to
> establish markers).
> >
> >If you keep the clips in DV-AVI form, MM2 won't do auto
> clip detection. You
> >would have to save it as a high quality WMV and then it
> would do the optical
> >splitting of the WMV file which has no markers.
> >
> >I'm sure the section can be better written, as I
> understand it better
> >myself.
> >
> >PapaJohn
> >
> >"bpa64" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:05e001c39d18$2f730970$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >> The section you refer to is actually where I found out
> >> about the '2nd' opportunity to create clips (eg: right
> >> clicking).
> >>
> >> As I understand your explanation, about how MM2
> >> determines where to split into clips, the process
> should
> >> work even though my original video is analog (with the
> >> Canpous unit & 1394 card generating a functionally
> >> equivalent DV-AVI data stream). The PC seems to
> consider
> >> the data stream as if it were indeed coming from a
> >> Digital camcorder --WinXP recognizes it as a "AVC
> >> Compliant DV Tape Recorder/Player" aka "Digital
> camera".
> >>
> >> Is there something that I am missing? Should I be able
> >> to have MM2 auto-generate clips?
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >