Clip preview problem in MM 2.1

I've used MM2 quite a few times and produced a number of videos with it.
However, it appears to have stopped working properly.

I can import a video file fine and it brings up the thumbnail, but when I
click on the thumbnail to preview it, it wont bring the file up in the
preview window. What will happen is that it will put the file name above the
preview window, then that file name will flicker. The program doesn't
completely seize, but I cannot try other clips without closing the program.
It only appears to be the preview window that seizes.

I have tried closing the program, rebooting my computer, fiddling with the
codecs. I also tried a system restore which worked for about an hour, then it
stopped working again. In that time the only thing I did was import lots of
clips into MM and update Windows and virus programs. I've (hopefully) got rid
of all the codecs I have put on in the past month, but still it isn't playing
fair.

Anybody got any ideas?

Wojo
Thu Mar 24 07:47:26 CST 2005

What filetype is the video file your trying to import?

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"tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AD020DED-624F-4706-9395-1266FC5771BD@microsoft.com...
> I've used MM2 quite a few times and produced a number of videos with it.
> However, it appears to have stopped working properly.
>
> I can import a video file fine and it brings up the thumbnail, but when I
> click on the thumbnail to preview it, it wont bring the file up in the
> preview window. What will happen is that it will put the file name above
> the
> preview window, then that file name will flicker. The program doesn't
> completely seize, but I cannot try other clips without closing the
> program.
> It only appears to be the preview window that seizes.
>
> I have tried closing the program, rebooting my computer, fiddling with the
> codecs. I also tried a system restore which worked for about an hour, then
> it
> stopped working again. In that time the only thing I did was import lots
> of
> clips into MM and update Windows and virus programs. I've (hopefully) got
> rid
> of all the codecs I have put on in the past month, but still it isn't
> playing
> fair.
>
> Anybody got any ideas?

tt3
Thu Mar 24 08:45:01 CST 2005

The file types are mostly avi files which I have used in MM2.1 many times
before without a problem. The problem did seem to occur when I imported an
mpg file. The file imported ok and even played back in MM a few times, so I
doubt that is the cause. I have removed the file from MM collections anyway,
but it did not sort the problem.

Can an mpg file still cause a problem even when it has been removed from the
collections and the program restarted and computer rebooted?

Wojo
Thu Mar 24 10:37:40 CST 2005

"tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:24CD615E-CB33-48A2-A4AF-20ACEDE5AB56@microsoft.com...
> The file types are mostly avi files which I have used in MM2.1 many times
> before without a problem. The problem did seem to occur when I imported an
> mpg file. The file imported ok and even played back in MM a few times, so
> I
> doubt that is the cause. I have removed the file from MM collections
> anyway,
> but it did not sort the problem.
>
> Can an mpg file still cause a problem even when it has been removed from
> the
> collections and the program restarted and computer rebooted?
>

No I don't see how it could.
There is something else wrong but I am unsure as to where to turn next other
than reinstalling SP2 and WMM but that is generally a last resort kind of
fix. Maybe John or pj will have a better suggestion than that one.

Ramana
Thu Mar 24 11:15:00 CST 2005

That's one good thing about Movie Maker version 2.

We can install, reinstall, uninstall any number of times, without meddling
with the system software much.

BTW, I have not used version 2.1, but what are the extra features available
in that?

Regards,
Ramana Murthy


"Wojo" <wojo@mypc.net> wrote in message
news:o1C0e.13142$wL6.10671@trnddc03...
> "tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:24CD615E-CB33-48A2-A4AF-20ACEDE5AB56@microsoft.com...
> > The file types are mostly avi files which I have used in MM2.1 many
times
> > before without a problem. The problem did seem to occur when I imported
an
> > mpg file. The file imported ok and even played back in MM a few times,
so
> > I
> > doubt that is the cause. I have removed the file from MM collections
> > anyway,
> > but it did not sort the problem.
> >
> > Can an mpg file still cause a problem even when it has been removed from
> > the
> > collections and the program restarted and computer rebooted?
> >
>
> No I don't see how it could.
> There is something else wrong but I am unsure as to where to turn next
other
> than reinstalling SP2 and WMM but that is generally a last resort kind of
> fix. Maybe John or pj will have a better suggestion than that one.
>
>

PapaJohn
Thu Mar 24 11:25:57 CST 2005

Your symptoms still suggest a codec issue... try the full manual search for
the .ax files and see what you have compared to the problem ones on the
Problem Solving > Crashes and Hangs page of my website.... and be sure to
have your normally hidden folders 'unhidden'.
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Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
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.
"tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:24CD615E-CB33-48A2-A4AF-20ACEDE5AB56@microsoft.com...
> The file types are mostly avi files which I have used in MM2.1 many times
> before without a problem. The problem did seem to occur when I imported an
> mpg file. The file imported ok and even played back in MM a few times, so
> I
> doubt that is the cause. I have removed the file from MM collections
> anyway,
> but it did not sort the problem.
>
> Can an mpg file still cause a problem even when it has been removed from
> the
> collections and the program restarted and computer rebooted?
>

tt3
Thu Mar 24 15:49:06 CST 2005

I agree it does sound like a codec issue, hence I deleted recent codecs and
fiddled with others.

But, while reading one persons solution to a similar problem, they suggested
downloading "k-lite mega codec pack". I decided to try it, and so far the
clips are previewing again without a problem.

Thanks heaps for all your help guys, I just hope MM keeps playing fair.

PapaJohn
Thu Mar 24 15:55:23 CST 2005

I guess a missing or needed codec is a better issue than a problem one....
good luck...
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
.
"tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D02968E2-60E0-48C2-B48E-56B3C1E6A741@microsoft.com...
>I agree it does sound like a codec issue, hence I deleted recent codecs and
> fiddled with others.
>
> But, while reading one persons solution to a similar problem, they
> suggested
> downloading "k-lite mega codec pack". I decided to try it, and so far the
> clips are previewing again without a problem.
>
> Thanks heaps for all your help guys, I just hope MM keeps playing fair.
>
>
>

tt3
Fri Mar 25 04:47:03 CST 2005

It has decided to stop working again this morning. I have done nothing to
affect it since last night. I am completely baffled as to why it wont work
now when it did last night. I had only just opened the program, so had not
even imported any clips, just opened the project I was doing yesterday.

Anyone know what might be happening?


"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> I guess a missing or needed codec is a better issue than a problem one....
> good luck...
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> ..
> "tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D02968E2-60E0-48C2-B48E-56B3C1E6A741@microsoft.com...
> >I agree it does sound like a codec issue, hence I deleted recent codecs and
> > fiddled with others.
> >
> > But, while reading one persons solution to a similar problem, they
> > suggested
> > downloading "k-lite mega codec pack". I decided to try it, and so far the
> > clips are previewing again without a problem.
> >
> > Thanks heaps for all your help guys, I just hope MM keeps playing fair.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

PapaJohn
Fri Mar 25 12:07:34 CST 2005

With spyware and adware being in the limelight lately, and causing real
problems on some systems... and some MM2 users reporting resolution of
issues by cleaning up their computers, how are you on that score?

My newsletter #34, now online in the archives at www.windowsmoviemakers.net
is a guide to going through your system and giving it a tune-up in the area
of sypware/adware....

When something routinely and automatically comes back or disappears... it's
time to consider it.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
.
"tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9FAA3BF4-B4B8-4E60-878C-12C1E8C3D344@microsoft.com...
> It has decided to stop working again this morning. I have done nothing to
> affect it since last night. I am completely baffled as to why it wont work
> now when it did last night. I had only just opened the program, so had not
> even imported any clips, just opened the project I was doing yesterday.
>
> Anyone know what might be happening?
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> I guess a missing or needed codec is a better issue than a problem
>> one....
>> good luck...
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> ..
>> "tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D02968E2-60E0-48C2-B48E-56B3C1E6A741@microsoft.com...
>> >I agree it does sound like a codec issue, hence I deleted recent codecs
>> >and
>> > fiddled with others.
>> >
>> > But, while reading one persons solution to a similar problem, they
>> > suggested
>> > downloading "k-lite mega codec pack". I decided to try it, and so far
>> > the
>> > clips are previewing again without a problem.
>> >
>> > Thanks heaps for all your help guys, I just hope MM keeps playing fair.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

tt3
Fri Mar 25 12:53:01 CST 2005

I will definitely look into that and get back to you with what I find. I have
done a complete sytem virus check, just incase! But that came back clear, so
that rules out a virus, but as I say, I will check for spy ware that has got
through my spy ware program.

Thanks


"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> With spyware and adware being in the limelight lately, and causing real
> problems on some systems... and some MM2 users reporting resolution of
> issues by cleaning up their computers, how are you on that score?
>
> My newsletter #34, now online in the archives at www.windowsmoviemakers.net
> is a guide to going through your system and giving it a tune-up in the area
> of sypware/adware....
>
> When something routinely and automatically comes back or disappears... it's
> time to consider it.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> ..
> "tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9FAA3BF4-B4B8-4E60-878C-12C1E8C3D344@microsoft.com...
> > It has decided to stop working again this morning. I have done nothing to
> > affect it since last night. I am completely baffled as to why it wont work
> > now when it did last night. I had only just opened the program, so had not
> > even imported any clips, just opened the project I was doing yesterday.
> >
> > Anyone know what might be happening?
> >
> >
> > "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> I guess a missing or needed codec is a better issue than a problem
> >> one....
> >> good luck...
> >> --
> >> PapaJohn
> >>
> >> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> >> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >> ..
> >> "tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D02968E2-60E0-48C2-B48E-56B3C1E6A741@microsoft.com...
> >> >I agree it does sound like a codec issue, hence I deleted recent codecs
> >> >and
> >> > fiddled with others.
> >> >
> >> > But, while reading one persons solution to a similar problem, they
> >> > suggested
> >> > downloading "k-lite mega codec pack". I decided to try it, and so far
> >> > the
> >> > clips are previewing again without a problem.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks heaps for all your help guys, I just hope MM keeps playing fair.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

tt3
Fri Mar 25 16:15:04 CST 2005

I have read your newsletter and done everything it suggests. But MM is no
different. The only thing I have found to work at all is the codec pack which
gives a temporary fix. But when MM goes silly again, I have to uninstall the
codec pack, then reinstall it.

I have checked the order of codecs on my computer between MM working and MM
not working and there is no change. MM stopped working earlier today when I
closed the program and reopened it, yet closing and opening the program does
not always affect MM in this way.


"tt3" wrote:

> I will definitely look into that and get back to you with what I find. I have
> done a complete sytem virus check, just incase! But that came back clear, so
> that rules out a virus, but as I say, I will check for spy ware that has got
> through my spy ware program.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>
> > With spyware and adware being in the limelight lately, and causing real
> > problems on some systems... and some MM2 users reporting resolution of
> > issues by cleaning up their computers, how are you on that score?
> >
> > My newsletter #34, now online in the archives at www.windowsmoviemakers.net
> > is a guide to going through your system and giving it a tune-up in the area
> > of sypware/adware....
> >
> > When something routinely and automatically comes back or disappears... it's
> > time to consider it.
> > --
> > PapaJohn
> >
> > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> > ..
> > "tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:9FAA3BF4-B4B8-4E60-878C-12C1E8C3D344@microsoft.com...
> > > It has decided to stop working again this morning. I have done nothing to
> > > affect it since last night. I am completely baffled as to why it wont work
> > > now when it did last night. I had only just opened the program, so had not
> > > even imported any clips, just opened the project I was doing yesterday.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what might be happening?
> > >
> > >
> > > "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
> > >
> > >> I guess a missing or needed codec is a better issue than a problem
> > >> one....
> > >> good luck...
> > >> --
> > >> PapaJohn
> > >>
> > >> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> > >> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> > >> ..
> > >> "tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:D02968E2-60E0-48C2-B48E-56B3C1E6A741@microsoft.com...
> > >> >I agree it does sound like a codec issue, hence I deleted recent codecs
> > >> >and
> > >> > fiddled with others.
> > >> >
> > >> > But, while reading one persons solution to a similar problem, they
> > >> > suggested
> > >> > downloading "k-lite mega codec pack". I decided to try it, and so far
> > >> > the
> > >> > clips are previewing again without a problem.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks heaps for all your help guys, I just hope MM keeps playing fair.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

PapaJohn
Sat Mar 26 22:51:28 CST 2005

I checked the thread over and it seems like it's time to check the nature of
the source files being used... do any work without problems?
--
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Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
.
"tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DA074C36-C4B8-4F2D-B122-F49D3FC26AA5@microsoft.com...
>I have read your newsletter and done everything it suggests. But MM is no
> different. The only thing I have found to work at all is the codec pack
> which
> gives a temporary fix. But when MM goes silly again, I have to uninstall
> the
> codec pack, then reinstall it.
>
> I have checked the order of codecs on my computer between MM working and
> MM
> not working and there is no change. MM stopped working earlier today when
> I
> closed the program and reopened it, yet closing and opening the program
> does
> not always affect MM in this way.
>
>
> "tt3" wrote:
>
>> I will definitely look into that and get back to you with what I find. I
>> have
>> done a complete sytem virus check, just incase! But that came back clear,
>> so
>> that rules out a virus, but as I say, I will check for spy ware that has
>> got
>> through my spy ware program.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>>
>> > With spyware and adware being in the limelight lately, and causing real
>> > problems on some systems... and some MM2 users reporting resolution of
>> > issues by cleaning up their computers, how are you on that score?
>> >
>> > My newsletter #34, now online in the archives at
>> > www.windowsmoviemakers.net
>> > is a guide to going through your system and giving it a tune-up in the
>> > area
>> > of sypware/adware....
>> >
>> > When something routinely and automatically comes back or disappears...
>> > it's
>> > time to consider it.
>> > --
>> > PapaJohn
>> >
>> > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>> > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> > ..
>> > "tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:9FAA3BF4-B4B8-4E60-878C-12C1E8C3D344@microsoft.com...
>> > > It has decided to stop working again this morning. I have done
>> > > nothing to
>> > > affect it since last night. I am completely baffled as to why it wont
>> > > work
>> > > now when it did last night. I had only just opened the program, so
>> > > had not
>> > > even imported any clips, just opened the project I was doing
>> > > yesterday.
>> > >
>> > > Anyone know what might be happening?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I guess a missing or needed codec is a better issue than a problem
>> > >> one....
>> > >> good luck...
>> > >> --
>> > >> PapaJohn
>> > >>
>> > >> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>> > >> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> > >> ..
>> > >> "tt3" <tt3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:D02968E2-60E0-48C2-B48E-56B3C1E6A741@microsoft.com...
>> > >> >I agree it does sound like a codec issue, hence I deleted recent
>> > >> >codecs
>> > >> >and
>> > >> > fiddled with others.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > But, while reading one persons solution to a similar problem, they
>> > >> > suggested
>> > >> > downloading "k-lite mega codec pack". I decided to try it, and so
>> > >> > far
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > clips are previewing again without a problem.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks heaps for all your help guys, I just hope MM keeps playing
>> > >> > fair.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

tt3
Sun Mar 27 05:45:03 CST 2005

The vast majority of the files which, although off the net, I have used
before and are not new files. The one that is more likely to cause a problem,
also off the net, will play in all my media programs and is fine apart from
one hiccup similar to a processor stutter, but this never causes the video to
stop.

Does anyone know of a way of checking a file for corruption? I have had a
look on the net but not found a good way of checking the file.

With the project I finally managed to produce in MM by re-installing the
codecs each time, I have put into Sony Vegas and Vegas has no problem at all
with the file.

Thanks once again for your assistance, I hope we can just get to the bottom
of this, might help someone else.

John
Sun Mar 27 07:29:02 CST 2005

Hello,

Can I suggest you go to www.videohelp.com/convert and after completing the
wizard download the programs it suggests. Your objective would be to
convert any/all of your files to one common standard, probably DV-AVI. Take
note that there are two forms of DV-AVI known as Type 1 and....yep Type 2.

Doing a conversion will remove the uncertainly about file types and
compatibility.

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