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I have a large home movie file, approx. 900MB, that I have made. Each time I attempt to save as a movie file before burning to a DVD movie maker stops saving. The movie records approximately 20 minutes, or less, and then only records audio after that. The video freezes on a particular clip. Each time the clip is different and can be within minutes of the others.

I have 512MB RAM with a 2.6 GHz processor...is this a problem with the movie maker program and if so how can I fix it?

PapaJohn
Fri Jan 09 23:43:32 CST 2004

20 minutes of DV-AVI is about 4 GB, the maximum file size for a FAT32 hard
drive. Are you running with FAT32 or with NTFS?

PapaJohn


"pmflannery" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I have a large home movie file, approx. 900MB, that I have made. Each
time I attempt to save as a movie file before burning to a DVD movie maker
stops saving. The movie records approximately 20 minutes, or less, and then
only records audio after that. The video freezes on a particular clip.
Each time the clip is different and can be within minutes of the others.
>
> I have 512MB RAM with a 2.6 GHz processor...is this a problem with the
movie maker program and if so how can I fix it?

Ted
Sat Jan 10 11:12:18 CST 2004

Hi PJ.

About 5 years ago, I taped (vhs) a 1 hour special on PBS. "The King Singers
live at Wolftrap".

Yesterday, using MM2, I captured it to an .avi file. A 60 minute tape
created an .avi file of 2.18Gb on a FAT32 partition.

The capture went smoothly, but I noticed that the video and the audio is
somewhat out of synch. Is my 700MGHz PIII with 512Mb ram to blame for this?

Thanks,

Ted


> 20 minutes of DV-AVI is about 4 GB, the maximum file size for a FAT32 hard
> drive. Are you running with FAT32 or with NTFS?
>
> PapaJohn
>
>
> "pmflannery" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:48B59FD4-EB85-43DA-8CC0-1FC2CDA3B2FA@microsoft.com...
>> I have a large home movie file, approx. 900MB, that I have made. Each
> time I attempt to save as a movie file before burning to a DVD movie maker
> stops saving. The movie records approximately 20 minutes, or less, and
then
> only records audio after that. The video freezes on a particular clip.
> Each time the clip is different and can be within minutes of the others.
>>
>> I have 512MB RAM with a 2.6 GHz processor...is this a problem with the
> movie maker program and if so how can I fix it?

PapaJohn
Sat Jan 10 11:42:16 CST 2004

I'm confused Ted. A one hour DV-AVI file made by MM2 would be about 13 GB
and the limit for a file on a FAT32 partition is 4 GB. Maybe you can explain
more what you did?

700Mhz is a bit toward the low end of computers for smooth playback.... so
yes, it could account for some sync or other smooth playback issues when
playing back a DV-AVI file.... but I'm not yet sure you made a DV-AVI file.
---
PapaJohn
www.papajohn.org


"Ted Brewer" <theob2@wi.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Ohftrz51DHA.3140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi PJ.
>
> About 5 years ago, I taped (vhs) a 1 hour special on PBS. "The King
Singers
> live at Wolftrap".
>
> Yesterday, using MM2, I captured it to an .avi file. A 60 minute tape
> created an .avi file of 2.18Gb on a FAT32 partition.
>
> The capture went smoothly, but I noticed that the video and the audio is
> somewhat out of synch. Is my 700MGHz PIII with 512Mb ram to blame for
this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted
>
>
> > 20 minutes of DV-AVI is about 4 GB, the maximum file size for a FAT32
hard
> > drive. Are you running with FAT32 or with NTFS?
> >
> > PapaJohn
> >
> >
> > "pmflannery" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:48B59FD4-EB85-43DA-8CC0-1FC2CDA3B2FA@microsoft.com...
> >> I have a large home movie file, approx. 900MB, that I have made. Each
> > time I attempt to save as a movie file before burning to a DVD movie
maker
> > stops saving. The movie records approximately 20 minutes, or less, and
> then
> > only records audio after that. The video freezes on a particular clip.
> > Each time the clip is different and can be within minutes of the others.
> >>
> >> I have 512MB RAM with a 2.6 GHz processor...is this a problem with the
> > movie maker program and if so how can I fix it?
>
>

Ted
Sat Jan 10 11:54:58 CST 2004

I goofed again, PapaJohn.

I used Pinnacle Studio SE ver 8 to capture to an .avi file. Then I brought
the .avi file into MM2. Sorry.

But, I guess, my system really isn't good enough to capture & produce a good
DVD.

Thanks for your help.

Ted


> I'm confused Ted. A one hour DV-AVI file made by MM2 would be about 13 GB
> and the limit for a file on a FAT32 partition is 4 GB. Maybe you can
explain
> more what you did?
>
> 700Mhz is a bit toward the low end of computers for smooth playback.... so
> yes, it could account for some sync or other smooth playback issues when
> playing back a DV-AVI file.... but I'm not yet sure you made a DV-AVI
file.
> ---
> PapaJohn
> www.papajohn.org
>
>
> "Ted Brewer" <theob2@wi.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Ohftrz51DHA.3140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hi PJ.
>>
>> About 5 years ago, I taped (vhs) a 1 hour special on PBS. "The King
Singers
>> live at Wolftrap".
>>
>> Yesterday, using MM2, I captured it to an .avi file. A 60 minute tape
>> created an .avi file of 2.18Gb on a FAT32 partition.
>>
>> The capture went smoothly, but I noticed that the video and the audio is
>> somewhat out of synch. Is my 700MGHz PIII with 512Mb ram to blame for
this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>> 20 minutes of DV-AVI is about 4 GB, the maximum file size for a FAT32
hard
>>> drive. Are you running with FAT32 or with NTFS?
>>>
>>> PapaJohn
>>>
>>>
>>> "pmflannery" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:48B59FD4-EB85-43DA-8CC0-1FC2CDA3B2FA@microsoft.com...
>>>> I have a large home movie file, approx. 900MB, that I have made. Each
>>> time I attempt to save as a movie file before burning to a DVD movie
maker
>>> stops saving. The movie records approximately 20 minutes, or less, and
then
>>> only records audio after that. The video freezes on a particular clip.
>>> Each time the clip is different and can be within minutes of the others.
>>>>
>>>> I have 512MB RAM with a 2.6 GHz processor...is this a problem with the
>>> movie maker program and if so how can I fix it?

PapaJohn
Sat Jan 10 13:32:43 CST 2004

Ted,

It depends on what you are wanting to do with your system... You can use it
fine to render movies. The only real issue will be smooth playback of high
quality movies...

And you might want to convert the FAT32 partition into NTFS so you don't run
into file size limits.

What codec are you using to compress the AVI file in Studio 8? That might be
an issue with Movie Maker, if Studio 8 doesn't effectively share the codec.


PapaJohn


"Ted Brewer" <theob2@wi.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23g%23phL61DHA.2896@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I goofed again, PapaJohn.
>
> I used Pinnacle Studio SE ver 8 to capture to an .avi file. Then I
brought
> the .avi file into MM2. Sorry.
>
> But, I guess, my system really isn't good enough to capture & produce a
good
> DVD.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Ted
>
>

Ted
Sat Jan 10 17:18:14 CST 2004

PapaJohn,

I used the "Better Quality" to save space. The items listed below are
locked in to the "Better Quality" choice.

Video:
Compression = PCLEPIM1 32-bit compressor
width x height = 320x240
Framerate = 29.97

Audio:
Compression = PCM
Channels = 16-bit stereo
Sample-rate = 16kHz

I cannot find where to get a list of the codecs used.

T


> Ted,
>
> It depends on what you are wanting to do with your system... You can use
it
> fine to render movies. The only real issue will be smooth playback of
high
> quality movies...
>
> And you might want to convert the FAT32 partition into NTFS so you don't
run
> into file size limits.
>
> What codec are you using to compress the AVI file in Studio 8? That might
be
> an issue with Movie Maker, if Studio 8 doesn't effectively share the
codec.
>
>
> PapaJohn
>
>
> "Ted Brewer" <theob2@wi.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23g%23phL61DHA.2896@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> I goofed again, PapaJohn.
>>
>> I used Pinnacle Studio SE ver 8 to capture to an .avi file. Then I
brought
>> the .avi file into MM2. Sorry.
>>
>> But, I guess, my system really isn't good enough to capture & produce a
good
>> DVD.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Ted

PapaJohn
Sat Jan 10 17:42:11 CST 2004

The PCLEPIM1 is the Pinnacle compressor. If Studio 8 lets you change the
compressor, you might be able to use something else that works better with
MM2... might even let you pick the Windows Media 9 compressor.

I guess I need to look at the Studio 8 package that I just got with my
Dazzle 80.

PapaJohn


"Ted Brewer" <theob2@wi.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OGPTLA91DHA.2888@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> PapaJohn,
>
> I used the "Better Quality" to save space. The items listed below are
> locked in to the "Better Quality" choice.
>
> Video:
> Compression = PCLEPIM1 32-bit compressor
> width x height = 320x240
> Framerate = 29.97
>
> Audio:
> Compression = PCM
> Channels = 16-bit stereo
> Sample-rate = 16kHz
>
> I cannot find where to get a list of the codecs used.
>
> T
>
>
> > Ted,
> >
> > It depends on what you are wanting to do with your system... You can use
> it
> > fine to render movies. The only real issue will be smooth playback of
> high
> > quality movies...
> >
> > And you might want to convert the FAT32 partition into NTFS so you don't
> run
> > into file size limits.
> >
> > What codec are you using to compress the AVI file in Studio 8? That
might
> be
> > an issue with Movie Maker, if Studio 8 doesn't effectively share the
> codec.
> >
> >
> > PapaJohn
> >
> >
> > "Ted Brewer" <theob2@wi.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23g%23phL61DHA.2896@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> I goofed again, PapaJohn.
> >>
> >> I used Pinnacle Studio SE ver 8 to capture to an .avi file. Then I
> brought
> >> the .avi file into MM2. Sorry.
> >>
> >> But, I guess, my system really isn't good enough to capture & produce a
> good
> >> DVD.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >> Ted
>
>

Ted
Sat Jan 10 21:59:47 CST 2004

PapaJohn.

I just completed a capture, using MM2, of a 2 1/2 minute song from a VHS.

MM2 is much easier, and IMHO, does a better job. The audio and video synch
were almost perfect.

I think my Pinnacle Studeo SE will be gathering a lot of dust.<g>

Thanks for all your help.

Ted


> The PCLEPIM1 is the Pinnacle compressor. If Studio 8 lets you change the
> compressor, you might be able to use something else that works better with
> MM2... might even let you pick the Windows Media 9 compressor.
>
> I guess I need to look at the Studio 8 package that I just got with my
> Dazzle 80.
>
> PapaJohn
>
>
> "Ted Brewer" <theob2@wi.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OGPTLA91DHA.2888@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> PapaJohn,
>>
>> I used the "Better Quality" to save space. The items listed below are
>> locked in to the "Better Quality" choice.
>>
>> Video:
>> Compression = PCLEPIM1 32-bit compressor
>> width x height = 320x240
>> Framerate = 29.97
>>
>> Audio:
>> Compression = PCM
>> Channels = 16-bit stereo
>> Sample-rate = 16kHz
>>
>> I cannot find where to get a list of the codecs used.
>>
>> T
>>
>>
>>> Ted,
>>>
>>> It depends on what you are wanting to do with your system... You can use
it
>>> fine to render movies. The only real issue will be smooth playback of
high
>>> quality movies...
>>>
>>> And you might want to convert the FAT32 partition into NTFS so you don't
run
>>> into file size limits.
>>>
>>> What codec are you using to compress the AVI file in Studio 8? That
might be
>>> an issue with Movie Maker, if Studio 8 doesn't effectively share the
codec.
>>>
>>>
>>> PapaJohn
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ted Brewer" <theob2@wi.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23g%23phL61DHA.2896@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> I goofed again, PapaJohn.
>>>>
>>>> I used Pinnacle Studio SE ver 8 to capture to an .avi file. Then I
brought
>>>> the .avi file into MM2. Sorry.
>>>>
>>>> But, I guess, my system really isn't good enough to capture & produce a
>>>> good DVD.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>> Ted

PapaJohn
Sat Jan 10 22:28:47 CST 2004

Ted,

....and I guess my Pinnacle Studio 8 software is going to end up getting
used a bit. I played with it a bit tonight over my evening mocha at Barnes &
Noble, to get a better feel for the interface.

I love the SmartSound background music tool... always looking for nice
royalty-free music to use with my videos. It offered a pretty full set of
styles, did a great job of creating the music, and fit it exactly to the
length of my videos.

And, although I didn't need it to save just the audio track, I found that
you can use any compressor on your hard drive when saving a movie with it.
So I opted for the Windows Media 9 compressor and saved the files as avi for
use in Movie Maker 2. There were no issues.


PapaJohn


"Ted Brewer" <theob2@wi.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:eTBlgd$1DHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> PapaJohn.
>
> I just completed a capture, using MM2, of a 2 1/2 minute song from a VHS.
>
> MM2 is much easier, and IMHO, does a better job. The audio and video
synch
> were almost perfect.
>
> I think my Pinnacle Studeo SE will be gathering a lot of dust.<g>
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Ted